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DNA Replication Has Been Filmed for the First Time ucdavis.edu
60 points by mgalka  1 hour ago   10 comments top 8
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bwang29 18 minutes ago 0 replies      
I can feel there is something really interesting here but the writing, title and explanation here seems to be poor. The surprise here is the random starts and stops as well as 10X speed difference in the DNA replication process. Wouldn't it be more surprising that these processes run at the same speed?

"...started watching individual DNA strands..." I'm wondering how important the visualization and nature of "filming" helped to form the idea or prove the hypothesis that replication is a async process. I didn't quite gather which is more impressive, the filming or the discovery.

Sometimes the traffic in the next lane is moving faster and passing you, and then you pass it. But if you travel far enough you get to the same place at the same time. also doesn't quite make sense to me as the video clearly shows no queuing structure as seen in real life traffic, and there is no real hypothesis to explain the sudden stops and starts.

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darkkindness 13 minutes ago 1 reply      
> Its a real paradigm shift, and undermines a great deal of whats in the textbooks, he said.

Sorry, but is this really that new? I've never been taught that the DNA strands coordinate with each other while replicating, so it seems quite possible that synthesis of each strand can be independent of each other.

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sidcool 6 minutes ago 0 replies      
This is amazing. I can't wrap my head around the fact that some brilliant people discovered this long back. Scientists and Physicists are so talented! And I can't center a <div> without googling. Sigh...
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ekianjo 10 minutes ago 0 replies      
For anyone interested in the molecular process of DNA replication, here's a pretty cool video that explains what happens at the protein level. It's always amazing to watch what is in practice a molecular-sized machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjPcT1uUZiE

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ekianjo 15 minutes ago 0 replies      
> Weve shown that there is no coordination between synthesis of the two strands. They are completely autonomous, Kowalczykowski said.

Couldn't that be the unintended effect of doing things in a flow chamber?

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saagarjha 11 minutes ago 0 replies      
Hmmpossibly there's some other process going on during those "slowdowns" that we haven't observed yet?
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hirundo 25 minutes ago 0 replies      
Most explicit porn ever!
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YCode 26 minutes ago 1 reply      
I have no idea what I'm seeing here.

I don't doubt what they are saying, but that looks nothing like the models of DNA that are used as eye candy in movies and such.

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GERT: Run Go on Bare Metal ARMv7 github.com
120 points by chuckdries  5 hours ago   30 comments top 3
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arcticbull 4 hours ago 9 replies      
I'm really not sure the drive for garbage collected languages in memory constrained systems with no user recoverability. Seems like a recipe for a device that just stops working from time to time.

Embedded systems, IMO, must be deterministic, reliable and consistent. Introducing garbage collection violates these three principals. Without them, how can you guarantee an interrupt can be reliably serviced in time? How can you guarantee that memory growth won't be exhausted because of some unexpected condition which prevents a timely GC? Many embedded systems developers don't even use malloc() in lieu of static allocations so they can actually understand their memory requirements.

It's either big enough for Linux, in which case have at it, or you need to reconsider why you're down in the kilobytes of total memory with a garbage collector.

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kbumsik 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Wow, it's a great piece of work. I was always wondering how to implement such big golang runtime on bare-metal, but someone finally did it. I glad to have a paper as well. So how big is the compiled binary of golang runtime? I hope it would be small enough to port to Cortex-M series MCUs.
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andreiw 3 hours ago 1 reply      
Great. When will this target ARMv8 64-bit 'A' profile chips?
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Playing with ZFS encryption on Linux rolando.cl
36 points by funkaster  3 hours ago   10 comments top 4
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binwiederhier 59 minutes ago 1 reply      
A little more details on the crypto aspects: https://blog.heckel.xyz/2017/01/08/zfs-encryption-openzfs-zf... (This is my post. I hope it's okay to post this here.)
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aidenn0 1 hour ago 0 replies      
64 bytes seems like an arbitrarily short limit for passphrases; it's going to be hashed at some point anyway (preferably with a decent KDF designed for the purpose) and 64 bytes is nowhere near long enough for natural English language text to be used to derive 32 bytes of entropy (estimates of English language text are ~1.5bits of entropy per character).
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ubercow 1 hour ago 3 replies      
I'm not really familiar with the development process between ZFS on Linux and ZFS on BSD, do these pull requests usually get merged upstream for use on BSD, Solaris, etc?
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symlinkk 1 hour ago 1 reply      
nice post, I think you forgot to fill in the Introduction though
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Teesprings valuation plummets from $650M to about $11M wsj.com
18 points by pain_perdu  1 hour ago   2 comments top 2
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pain_perdu 8 minutes ago 0 replies      
Related news about layoffs: Http://about.crunchbase.com/news/teespring-undergoes-stiff-layoffs-corporate-restructuring/
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keeptrying 5 minutes ago 0 replies      
Anyone got a non paywalled link?
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Its Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people act as they do theamericanscholar.org
154 points by Hooke  7 hours ago   106 comments top 12
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hyperion2010 6 hours ago 2 replies      
This is true even at a personal level. If you think you know why you act the way you do but you have never done an experiment to validate it you have a pretty good chance of being wrong. Even for simple things, like how fast you drive, is it the speedometer and you are looking at it, or is it how your engine sounds, and if turn up your music do you drive faster and is that because you are more aroused/excited, or is it because you can't actually hear how loud your engine is? Or maybe it is something else entirely.
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taurath 3 hours ago 1 reply      
If you haven't seen the lecture from Robert Sapolsky (author of the book the article is summarizing) on Depression, do yourself a favor and see it now! He's wonderfully eloquent and approachable even to the laymen in giving the neurobiological underpinnings of what is a terrible illness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc

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xor1 16 minutes ago 0 replies      
Learning about Borderline Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and the rest of the Cluster B disorders (and their comorbidity) helped me understand ALOT about certain types of behavioral patterns that I previously found completely mind-boggling.
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md224 3 hours ago 7 replies      
> there is no homunculus (or soul, or separate entity) calling the shots for you, but even if there were a mini-me inside of you making choices, that mini-me would need a mini-mini-me inside of it, ad infinitum.

I find it kind of amusing that people think free will is an illusion. It's a great illustration of how you can get people to believe anything, including things that violate their most fundamental perceptions.

This "Science disproves free will" thing has the epistemological hierarchy reversed: one of the surest things I know is my own will. Before Descartes could proclaim "I think, therefore I am" he had to choose to make that proclamation.

The argument that free will can't exist because it involves infinite regress is not particularly convincing: if anything, we should expect that our agency springs from something as bizarre as a causal singularity. Consciousness is weird as hell, and I expect the true nature of consciousness will turn out to be weirder than we can imagine.

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amasad 4 hours ago 10 replies      
The schism between our science and politics is finally getting airtime. Liberal western politics are based on individual liberty and free will. However, mainstream science maintains that we're neither individuals nor have free will. Do we try to reconcile both views? Or do we drop one in favor of the other?

This, by the way, is also the subject of Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow, by the same author behind Sapiens.

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tucif 6 hours ago 7 replies      
What would be a good book to read before this book? Or is it friendly enough for someone new to behavioral science?
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Atlantium 5 hours ago 4 replies      
The human brain's electro-chemical makeup and its response to stimulus, both from the other organs and through the external sensory organs, are the reasons we act the way we do. Like the Human Genome project before it, this mystery can be solved with large amounts of personnel, money and time.Do not complain that it's complex (it is, we know, the sooner we commit the appropriate resources the sooner we'll be finished). [And yes, I am doing something about it - I'm a returned to school STEM-neuro student]
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ouid 4 hours ago 0 replies      
It's at least as complicated as all of mathematics, in the worst case.
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peterwwillis 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Does nobody else find this to be time-wasting drivel? We do what we do because we're apes with hats.

Any thing that acts does so with a system. The system determines the actions. This is true for the laws of nature as much as a football game. Even if someone cheats, they're cheating because of the system of the game.

> "Sapolsky concludes that World War II really was the worst thing humanity ever did to itself."

Really? Really now? Thousands of years of slavery, war, discrimination, class struggle, superstition, genocide, and at least a few centuries having to wear really stuffy clothes in the summer, and six years of war was the worst thing that happened? I didn't read the book, but this is a farcical idea that requires aggressively downplaying all of both the atrocity and perpetual minor trauma of recorded history.

The worst thing humanity ever did to itself was religion, but second to that was politics, so WWII can take the silver medal. Ironically, the best thing humanity ever did to itself was war, as it necessitated the development of technology to maintain hegemonic dominance.

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faragon 4 hours ago 1 reply      
TL;DR: watching the movie "Taxi Driver" you'll learn more about about human behavior than reading that article.
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nope123 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Per Deep Thought, the answer to life, the universe and everything is 42.

It's a very deep thought, if you go past the literal interpretation.

EDIT:

Before you down vote, read what I meant, since it is obvious that if you are considering a down vote then you're not getting what I'm referring to, and probably think I'm talking about numerology.

What I'm referring to is his choice of a number to represent the answer to life, universe and everything. Not a magical number, but just A NUMBER. It shows how futile it is to try and answer some questions in a mechanical/mathematical way. Some questions are not computable, and there is more meaning to life beyond the rational.

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givan 6 hours ago 6 replies      
Call it anyway you want, lizard brain, flyers (Castaneda), Yaldabaoth (agnostics), this force that pushes evolution on earth at great speed through predatorial behavior like competition and flight or fight.

We humans are the most intelligent species and still can't overcome it, as a civilization whatever political system or religion we tried no matter how hard we try we can't seem to overcome it, we still have wars and violence.

When few succeed to inspire people to overcome it and fight without violence like Mahatma Gandhi did they inspire humanity and are called saints by their nation.

When an individual can control his own feelings to such an extent that violence or anger feelings can no longer touch him we call him enlightened.

Maybe this force is not only trying to help us evolve but wants to teach us something marvelous if we overcome it.

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Intel discontinues Joule, Galileo, and Edison product lines hackaday.com
292 points by rbanffy  12 hours ago   162 comments top 23
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nickpeterson 11 hours ago 17 replies      
I'm calling it, Intel is going to be a shadow of it's former self in 5 years. They have had tremendous issues competing in almost anything outside of x86 processors over their entire lifespan. They consistently get outmanuevered in gpus, ssds, low power socs, machine learning, et cetera. The x86 platform that they currently own, is mostly due to intertia and fab facility advantages.

AMD, was able to launch a pretty competitive CPU despite massive delays because Intel has barely improved the ipc of their processors over the last 5 years.

Meanwhile Apple is betting on iPads being the future computer of the Everyman and they make their own chips. Microsoft recently acknowledged that windows basically has to run on arm for the future proofing of their platform. I guarantee you start seeing more arm based windows computers soon.

Intel recently told everyone they're willing to sue for patent money, the last desperate act.

Intel better have a leapfrog cpu in the pipeline or it's over.

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kardianos 11 hours ago 5 replies      
FYI, as someone who worked with the Edison I can't say I'm surprised. Flashing the Edison was nearly impossible and a big pain. The hardware routinely crashed. Much of the low power "specs" came from (overly) aggressive power management which introduced momentary delays and pauses. I'm happy to see them go and never want to work on such a platform again. The GPIO stopped working reliably at higher speeds despite their spec claims.

By contrast, the raspberry pis and even the Ci20 are significantly more stable and easier to work with. Their specs far more truthful.

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georgeburdell 16 minutes ago 0 replies      
Long overdue. I had hope that Galileo might be an Arduino/Raspberry Pi competitor, but Joule was blatantly an attempt to recoup some of the cost of their already-cancelled smartphone SoC program.

Why now? They just announced that they're cutting spending down to 30% of revenue by 2020: https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/05/12/intel-corporation-...

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edmundhuber 8 hours ago 3 replies      
Why did Edison fail:

 - it was too expensive compared to other BLE and WiFi capable SoCs or combinations of chips. - x86 compatibility doesn't matter. - power draw (~1W) is too high for the places where one would want to use this SoC. - the Yocto -based SDK was a mess. Every feature had a caveat and it was a pain to build. - there was never a clear commitment from Intel that they would make these in bulk for manufacturing.
The new hotness are the Espressif (ESP32) and MediaTek (mt7697) SoCs.

 - low power draw (~300mW), even lower at sleep (50mA - nA depending on what kind of sleep), - SDK is FreeRTOS based, - the "MCU features" like GPIO, PWM, etc, actually work all the time.

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crusso 11 hours ago 0 replies      
This is unsurprising. My experience with the Edison: Cool little product with a lot of potential, but the stability problems, lack of timely releases of updates, lack of support for common libraries in their package management system, etc. were all bad signs. I never got the feeling that it would be safe to build a product around the Edison.
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SEJeff 11 hours ago 5 replies      
That's too bad, the Edison was a nice small developer board. The NUC is quite a few steps up and not quite for the same target market (I've got a few). I wonder if they're going to continue attempting to compete with ARM or they have just realized they lost the low end battle with x86
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baybal2 9 hours ago 2 replies      
How ironic, the most succesful Intel MCU was 8051. It is 40 years old, yet still rockin
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quickben 11 hours ago 1 reply      
And by the look of it, when the server and hedt CPUs hit the market, they'll discontinue a lot more.

They got cozy with the monopoly, seems the bills arrived.

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sbierwagen 10 hours ago 2 replies      
Fortunately this doesn't mention anything off the Euclid line, like their moderately cool single-box CV thing: https://click.intel.com/intelr-euclidtm-development-kit.html

We can only hope that someone at Intel has realized IoT is a total tarpit, and is getting out of the product segment entirely.

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etqwzutewzu 7 hours ago 2 replies      
What does it mean for Android Things (former Brillo) project? Intel Edison and Intel Joule were ones of the few supported boards.
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oneplane 9 hours ago 1 reply      
Intel just doesn't seem to get how this works. You can't just make a platform and then throw it away expecting people to like your brand...
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franciscop 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Ah and I am so lucky I never switched to Galileo while I was tempted during its release. For some reason I thought it wouldn't work out. Something felt off for some reason and I could kind of get by with Raspberry Pi.

Reading hackaday comments it's probably from the documentation and Intel's doing, not for the technology on itself. I am guessing that open source OR community > closed source or company (as in Raspberry Pi with a great community vs Galileo or Arduino vs anything else) for these kind of things.

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zwieback 9 hours ago 0 replies      
It's not like Intel hasn't tried new things over the years, before becoming a huge ARM CPU vendor (XScale) they had the i960 MCU, which was pretty good and the failed i860 VLIW, which was super-promising for graphics and image processing but the compilers never delivered.

It's just that the x86 was always so huge that all the other projects never got traction.

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wastedhours 11 hours ago 1 reply      
All in on Compute Cards then? Or at least, the next attempt to get into the IoT sphere with an overpriced-in-the-market and poorly community supported ecosystem...
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jaboutboul 12 hours ago 3 replies      
This document only talks about the Galileo boards. Where did you see mention of Edison and Joule?

That would totally suck as we are pretty heavily invested in Edisons.

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rocky1138 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Boo! I really liked my time working with the Edison. A great platform and so tiny!
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noen 5 hours ago 1 reply      
I worked on a handful of products using Edison, and was speaking to Intel less than a month ago about their Joule line at a conference, where they assured me Joule was the future.

All of these chipsets had (and still have) huge promise, but have been mired in really puzzling and terrible board design issues.

You can tell that there are two different groups at Intel, the "Core" and the "Iot".

The Edison was super powerful, price competitive, and an honestly wonderful platform to dev on. YOCTO, while a weird decision, was a pretty vanilla Linux flavor and easy to pick up.

With all that promise though, the botched the silicon. The 2nd cpu on Edison, the Quark 100mhz one, never actually worked. They were shutoff in firmware from day 1 because of presumed hardware issues.

Even worse (and the reason we stopped using Edison), the SPI bus had so much electrical crosstalk on it from not being properly routed or shielded, you couldn't use it at anything over 25hz with a SINGLE bus endpoint. This removed 90% of the real-world uses for the Edison to drive displays, sensor and motor arrayset al. Intel knew it was a problem and consciously decided not to Rev the board to fix it.

Gallileo and Joule are both underpowered and incredibly overpriced devices. Today, the raspberry pi 3 is the hobby standard, and in nearly every real world use case, it is orders of magnitude more performant at 10% or less of the cost.

Intel IS is trouble, because this is their third botched attempt to enter the world of embedded computing and mobile computing.

First was the Atom, which isn't bad, but is too power constrained to compete with ARM. They made some good efforts here, but the cost is higher and perf/watt significantly lower than ARM.

Second was their foray into mobile, trying to branch from Atom. Anyone here ever use an Intel powered phone? Well they spent billions on it, never to have a mass market device actually appear. Same problems - while have equivalent performance to ARM, prices were 30-50% higher and performance per watt was significantly worse.

Now here we are with attempt 3. With the same issues. Intel fundamentally doesnt know how to design, manufacture or sell embedded chips.

It's a completely different market motion, different customers, different constraints, shorter cycles and much much different competitive landscape.

AMD isn't going to "beat" Intel. They have fundamentally the same problems. Both AMD and Intel aren't going to go bankrupt, but they are going to continue the slide into much smaller scale manufacture.

They are both being eaten by the dozens of ARM vendors, by the FPGA movement, and by public cloud data centers. It's a reduction by a thousand cuts, making it that much more difficult to do anything about it.

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Dylan16807 11 hours ago 1 reply      
What ever happened to that original idea for an SD card form factor for Edison?
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hellofunk 9 hours ago 0 replies      
The Edison was quite a neat little machine. Fun to work with and super powerful despite its tiny size. Sorry to see Intel abandon it.
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thrillgore 10 hours ago 2 replies      
I will never understand why Intel sold off StrongARM/XScale, it seemed like it could have been pivoted into their own IoT offering.
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mspokoiny 7 hours ago 0 replies      
they lost position forever
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deepnotderp 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Surprising exactly 0 people.
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Show HN: Python bindings to the Servo HTML5 parser, html5ever github.com
53 points by tbodt  5 hours ago   5 comments top 3
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pcwalton 2 hours ago 1 reply      
The html5ever parser source [1] is remarkably easy to read, since it uses the Rust macro system to represent the state transitions declaratively. It also uses pattern matching to nice effect.

[1]: https://github.com/servo/html5ever/blob/master/html5ever/src...

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edoceo 3 hours ago 0 replies      
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Animats 2 hours ago 0 replies      
This sounds useful. It should parse the same way Firefox does.
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The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover cnn.com
137 points by Tomte  8 hours ago   36 comments top 10
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FabHK 5 hours ago 3 replies      
One thing to keep in mind is that in 1997, HK's GDP was about one sixth of China's (even though China has 200x the people), and it was a very important conduit between China and the world: In the early 2000s, HK's port had about as much volume as Shanghai and Shenzhen together.

Today, HK's GDP is barely 3% of China's, and the ports of Shanghai and Shenzhen together have 3x the throughput of HK. (Just have a look at these pictures: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478975/Shanghai-por... )

In other words, HK used to be hugely important for China. Now, it isn't, and with rising Chinese nationalism, HK is being seen more and more like an unruly and spoiled child.

The grievances of HK's population are real: a political and business establishment dominated by property tycoons (and increasingly mainland Chinese political factions) keen on maintaining their privileged position; huge economic inequality; a slow erosion of political liberties ("salami tactic").

That all, of course, gave rise to the Umbrella Movement in 2014.

However, given that the Chinese Communist Party is not inclined to weaken its grip on power, and extremely protective of the (perceived) territorial integrity of China, I don't really see how this will end well. :-/ Here's hoping.

Sources for statistics:

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/09/hon...

https://www.vox.com/2014/9/28/6857567/hong-kong-used-to-be-1...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world%27s_busiest_cont...

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nthcolumn 5 hours ago 2 replies      
This is very different from what I was told by certain exasperated civil servants at the time in Honkers which was that initially China didn't really want change at all as they thought any more of this democracy and capitalism poison (not to mention triad crime) needed to be contained and certainly not brought into China proper and that they would have gladly ignored the expiration of the lease but for the idiocy of the Brits insisting on some sort of replacement framework. They'd have gladly just carried on taking the money pretending it didn't exist. Deng had to come up with a fudge - one country, two systems and Macao followed suit thereafter. But it was a long time ago and that may have just been Lily Wong.

edit: for example the chinese did nothing to stem the tide of people to-ing and fro-ing when HK was still a colony, I recall some squaddies complaining bitterly about having to shoot at them up the hillside whilst People's Army looked on bemused.

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tuna-piano 6 hours ago 2 replies      
Interesting.

For those who don't follow this, in many ways this experiment has, in my view, shown signs of failure.

China also almost surely has arrested/kidnapped Hong Kong citizens (authors) in Hong Kong who push for democracy.

Beijing is seen to have an increasing amount of political influence on Hong Kong. Hong Kong does not have the independence to create a democratic system.

Hong Kong people don't feel like they can control much... so most just go about their day to day lives. They don't like Beijing's power, but what can they do? This is not the way the British agreement was set out ("One country two systems"). Unfortunate, but probably predictable.

Further reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway_Bay_Books_disappearan...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/27/new-arrests-in...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/26/hong-kong-choo...

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/03/29/a...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-selection-not-an-elec...

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dis-sys 41 minutes ago 1 reply      
typical biased article from CNN.

when talking about the handover, the article claims that

"The people of Hong Kong were not party to the discussions, nor were they consulted about the final decision, which had a profound effect on their futures and freedoms."

Did the people of Hong Kong party to the "discussions" when UK took Hong Kong after the Opium War? Were they consulted about the final decision, which had a profound effect on their futures and freedoms?

It also need to be highlighted the term Opium War - British fought a war with China so they could sell opium to a nation, they got HK as a bonus for such Opium business. Next time when you see thugs in your local undesirable neighbourhood dealing drugs, think about the British government because they were the same - I mean actually worse, when was the last time you saw drug dealing thugs directly took people's land/homes after selling them drugs?

Before anyone jumping up and down arguing that it was more free under UK - was polygamy legal in Hong Kong until 1971? Maybe you want to discuss with women in Hong Kong and lecture them why there were more free under British Hong Kong.

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eveningcoffee 4 hours ago 2 replies      
>The people of Hong Kong were not party to the discussions, nor were they consulted about the final decision, which had a profound effect on their futures and freedoms.

For me it is another moral failure of the British.

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vilhelm_s 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I thought the most interesting point was that already in 1960 China threatened to invade if the UK attempted to introduce greater democracy to the colony. This article from 2014 describes it in slightly more detail. https://qz.com/279013/the-secret-history-of-hong-kongs-still...
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zie 6 hours ago 2 replies      
The end of what autonomy HK currently enjoyes expires in 2047. Will be interesting to see what happens then. China has always been very long-term thinking oriented, much different than our western system(s) of government, that it has an expiry I think says a lot about China's long-term view.
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doe88 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Very informative article, in particular I wasn't aware of the fact that Hong Kong was compounded of differents parts and that the larger one was the one problematic as being leased to China and set to expire in 1997. I don't really see how the outcome could have been different, by this simple fact China had the upper hand on any deal.
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csense 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Rule #1: Don't let the people vote, otherwise they might vote the wrong way.

For some reason, Britain forgot about that rule and let the people vote on Brexit. You can be sure they won't make that mistake again.

EDIT: I'm obviously being sarcastic here.

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wyck 6 hours ago 0 replies      
The photo of Deng Xiaoping and Thatcher is pretty funny given the subtext of almost starting WW3. Good article, for context I recommend reading about the early history of Hong Kong related to the Sassoon family, HSBC, and the Opium wars.
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Bancor Is Flawed hackingdistributed.com
100 points by sidko  3 hours ago   54 comments top 11
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nextstep 2 hours ago 2 replies      
> There already exists a common currency through which we can trade. It's called ether, and we can use it no matter which token pairs we want to trade...

Exactly. For every ICO that pops up, ask does this use case require a special token? Often ether would be sufficient or even preferable because of greater liquidity.

Exchange between digital assets can be easily facilitated with something simple like Prism: https://info.shapeshift.io/blog/2017/05/21/introducing-prism...

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isubkhankulov 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Bancor's initial response isn't great:

https://twitter.com/bancornetwork/status/876934646344404992

since they mentioned FUD, it sounds like they're afraid Gun's post may affect trading of their token.

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sushid 2 hours ago 3 replies      
I feel like the article definitely has some merit but the timing of it (days before a TBD announcement on token trading), the inclusion of very obvious non-unique points (i.e. not scalable, anything Bancor can do Ethereum can do - uh, why not include the definition of Turing complete here) and the false assumption that Bancor's use case is for a groundbreaking ERC20 token that's going to be traded on every exchange makes the author's claim dubious.

A more likely use case for Bancor is some SMB (store/restaurant) or content creator issuing tokens to be used for membership reward/points or for voting on a new video/project idea, not for Augur/Steem/Gnosis 2.0 to issue an ICO.

If you take this gross assumption of the equation, his whole argument about slippage or "trailing the market", etc are gone. You're issuing some small time tokens. There no reason to always buy back from the market and there are no big players trying to "deplete your reserve." The author makes it sound like I'm selling some popular cryptocurrency at a fixed price and am being left to bleed dry when in actuality, I'm issuing my_random_token for friends and customers.

I didn't review the code but if what he's saying is correct, there is a reason for alarm regarding their reimplementation of basic arithmetic functions(!!!) and user overpaying.

By trying to make this into a laundry list, it comes more off as a FUD argument, very similar to what Bitcoin maximalists were doing post the DAO hack to Ethereum.

(Disclaimer: my Bancor holding is about 0.5% of my total Crypto portfolio).

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jnordwick 1 hour ago 3 replies      
We need a futures market for crypto currencies. It would massively aid in hedging and price discovery. It would be easier for the price to adjust down to since there would be an easy way to short them too.
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burke 2 hours ago 1 reply      
The underlying problem here is that the ICO model as most-frequently implemented is pretty broken.

It's kind of a like a hybrid between an IPO and a Kickstarter, but:

1. With kickstarter, the reward has roughly constant value with respect to the total funds raised;

2. With an IPO, the supply is predetermined. While the cost per share may be astronomical by the time you get around to buying in, it's clear what fraction of the offering you're purchasing.

ICOs tokens typically have:

1. value inversely proportional to the total funds raised; and

2. (since supply is not determined until the end of the ICO in many cases) no clarity around what fraction of the offering an investment actually purchases until the offering is complete.

This leads to some pretty crazy situations, Bancor being the most recent and most notable example, but in general, it just doesn't really lead to very sane practices.

---

This is precisely why IPOs are conducted the way they are, with investment banks pre-purchasing a predetermined number of shares just shy of what they expect to be a fair market value, handing that money to the company, and then selling those shares on the open market.

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tronreg 2 hours ago 11 replies      
Just wondering how those of you who have known about Ethereum for a while but didn't buy it feel about missing out on >3000% returns this year. I didn't buy any and dislike knowing I could've been rich.
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seoseokho 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Dumb question: does anyone know if any of the ICO-ing companies have "cashed out" to actual hard currency?
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simplehuman 2 hours ago 3 replies      
Wow, 144M. As a crypto n00b, can someone clarify if this is "real" money? Just wondering since I have never heard of Bancor before and this amount of funding is incredible.
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glorious 1 hour ago 0 replies      
All you have to do is throw a rock at the button on the wall, and a gate will drop on its head. Wait, that's Rancor.
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RichardHeart 2 hours ago 2 replies      
Is there a way to fix no one being able to short these things? The counter party risk and irrational exuberance outlasting ones solvency should be solvable somehow?
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Radim 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Jesus christ. I read that as "bacon is flawed" for a second and nearly got a heart attack.

Bacon is perfect.

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Show HN: Algorithm Cookbook in Rust github.com
241 points by EbTech  12 hours ago   47 comments top 9
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rectang 11 hours ago 1 reply      
MIT license is good, but I always wish that sample code was available under CC0 -- and presented with explicit permission to copy and paste without preservation of notices. (A request to link back optionally when practical is fine.)

That makes it easier for sample code to achieve the ends of maximum code reuse and popularization of the underlying technology.

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rustacean 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Thank you. But it seems not finished?I am trying to implement some basic data structures and algorithms in Rust, but the compiler nearly kills me. Is there any data structure & algorithms implementation tutorials for Rust newbies, like Learning_ Rust_With_Entirely_Too_Many_Linked_Lists[1]?

[1]:http://cglab.ca/~abeinges/blah/too-many-lists/book/README.ht...

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cyber1 9 hours ago 4 replies      
"My other goal is to show developers that C++ and Java kinda suck" -- really?!
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zeotroph 10 hours ago 1 reply      
A graph with the members first, next, and endpoints is not exactly self explanatory, something better than a "A compact graph representation" comment would be nice.

Especially since the ownership model of rust makes the classic graph representation of edges owning nodes impossible.

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sjroot 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Thanks for sharing this. I did a deep dive into Rust when I was tasked with implementing an interpreter[0] for school, and found the language to be very enjoyable to work in. While I have tried to convince other friends to try it, they still object citing a steep learning curve and the thought that it will never replace C++ or Java in mainstream development ecosystems. It is resources like these that will help lower that barrier to productivity. :)

[0] https://github.com/sejr/core-interpreter

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bogomipz 11 hours ago 2 replies      
This is great. I am curious if anyone else knows of a similar cookbook for Golang.
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simplehuman 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Just a heads up: please put github tags
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gerty 9 hours ago 1 reply      
To add to the list, here's my rust-noob implementation of the Kalman filter.

https://github.com/rbagd/rust-linearkalman

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amelius 7 hours ago 4 replies      
Offtopic/meta. I'm wondering about a technology that allows us to NOT re-implement an algorithm cookbook every time a new language shows up.
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Show HN: Nice-looking Python bindings to V8 github.com
110 points by tbodt  9 hours ago   16 comments top 5
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gkya 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Can anybody tell what's going on with the v8py/kappa.{cpp,h} files?
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andersriutta 4 hours ago 0 replies      
This allows for calling synchronous JS functions from Python but not async JS functions, right? PyExecJS [0] also doesn't work with async JS, but Js2Py [1] might.

[0] https://github.com/doloopwhile/PyExecJS/issues/20[1] https://github.com/PiotrDabkowski/Js2Py/blob/05e77f0d4ffe91e...

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d33 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Nice! I hadn't tested it yet, but I remember trying to run V8 in Python and it was a real mess - I think that even building it was problematic. I might use this project one day. Did you compare your bindings to alternatives?
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startupdiscuss 7 hours ago 1 reply      
I might be missing something, but can you show an example of calling the API from javascript?

You seem to be writing it in python and then calling it from within python in the example.

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jdc0589 7 hours ago 1 reply      
there are a LOT of Sublime Text plugins that depend on this.

EDIT: nevermind. i'm dyslexic

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Connect: behind the front-end experience stripe.com
178 points by hepha1979  10 hours ago   15 comments top 9
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nodesocket 39 minutes ago 1 reply      
Their landing pages are just so beautiful, like fine art. I do wonder though the return on investment. The pages must take forever to create. Perhaps Stripe just has that much cash.
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pg_bot 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Stripe's design continually makes me envious. I hope to one day own a product that matches their level of quality.
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lovincyrus 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Interesting touch for the Accessibility consideration on the site!
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Silhouette 4 hours ago 1 reply      
It's always interesting to see real world applications of new Web functionality, so kudos to the Stripe team for pushing the envelope in an environment where mistakes could surely be expensive. I hadn't realised that CSS Grid Layout was a viable option for production use yet, for example, so TIL.

I do wonder whether sometimes the code here is using trendy tools just to be trendy, though. For example, is

 const getDistance = (state, rotate) => ["x", "y"].reduce((object, axis) => { object[axis] = Math.abs(state[axis] + rotate[axis]); return object; }, {});
really an improvement on grandpa's version

 function getDistance(state, rotate) { return { x: Math.abs(state.x + rotate.x), y: Math.abs(state.y + rotate.y) }; }?

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smpetrey 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Fucking stupendous. Stripe is continually pushing the envelope. Outstanding work.
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billdybas 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Fascinating read! Web Animations are always so cool, but I never know where to start to incorporate them into my own work. What resources help one reach this level of expertise?
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slinger 3 hours ago 0 replies      
beautiful stuff
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RodericDay 1 hour ago 0 replies      
It's neat and all but I feel like there's something so utterly unnecessary and gratuitous about beautiful bouncy payment web widgets.

Makes me sad that CSS programmers make truckloads of money while other workers in the economy rot.

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amelius 5 hours ago 3 replies      
Nice. But in my experience, front-end design always requires some hacks here and there, e.g. because of compatibility issues or because of design flaws in CSS. So either the Stripe engineers are ridiculously clever, or they are just avoiding the difficult stuff.
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One-Hour Mandelbrot: Creating a Fractal on the Vintage Xerox Alto righto.com
77 points by darwhy  11 hours ago   37 comments top 10
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krylon 7 hours ago 1 reply      
I still remember the day I read the article on the Mandelbrot set and went, "Whoa, I understand the math!"

I went on to write my first Mandelbrot renderer in Python. I was delighted, in a way, that it worked, but badly disappointed at the performance.

I rewrote the thing in C, and then rewrote it again to make use of multiple CPU cores. I am certain there are Mandelbrot renderers out there that put mine to shame. But still, it was fun, and I got some pretty desktop wallpapers out of it. And I learned a thing or two along the way. Also, I rewrote it again using PVM (Parallel Virtual Machine) to spread the work out across several computers. So I actually learned two or three things along the way. ;-)

In a previous job, I had a supervisor who learned programming in the mid-80s who told me about rendering the Mandelbrot set, then using bit-twiddling on the VGA memory to change the color palette on the display. I was not sure if I should be envious to have missed those times or happy.

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forinti 10 hours ago 5 replies      
The first Mandelbrot generator I played with took more than 3 hours on a BBC Micro to render a 160x256 image. That was 30 years ago and I still try out variations on this from time to time (larger exponents, fractional exponents, complex exponents, animations, etc).

http://alquerubim.blogspot.com.br/search/label/Fractais

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DaniFong 8 hours ago 2 replies      
For anyone on iOS, I recommend you check out the app Frax. Created in part by the Legendary Kai Krause!

http://fract.al/

Realtime, 60 fps, incredibly beautiful fractals on iPhone and iPad. (am not affiliated with them, just a fan)

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1001101 10 hours ago 1 reply      
"You can also see the CPU's registers on this board." That made me LOL a bit. Very interesting architecture.
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DaniFong 3 hours ago 0 replies      
An amazing demonstration of the math behind some fractals, which runs on web gl, is Steven Witten's "How to Fold a Julia Fractal"

https://acko.net/blog/how-to-fold-a-julia-fractal/

Highly recommended

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sp332 9 hours ago 1 reply      
And now my crummy laptop can render a smooth-shaded version full-screen at 12 FPS. https://www.shadertoy.com/view/lsX3W4
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TekMol 9 hours ago 1 reply      

 On a modern computer, a Javascript program can generate the Mandelbrot set in a fraction of a second, while the Alto took an hour.
Hm... a "fraction" could mean anything. If it's exactly a second, then the speedup factor would be about 3600x.

The Alto was built about 40 years ago, right? That would be 30% performance improvement per year. Is that about right for single cpu performance acceleration over the last 40 years?

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karmakaze 4 hours ago 0 replies      
With the limited computing power, they should have at least used the bilateral symmetry to halve the time.
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pasbesoin 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Reminds me of writing programs to map the Mandelbrot and Julia sets onto the display of my Kaypro 2X. Didn't even have real bitmapped graphics -- just a way of packing... I think it was 4-pixel squares, into a character representation and then writing that.

Similar to packing up bits to characters shot to some sort of dot matrix printer attached to VAX, to print out such images, a couple of years earlier. At least that generated the images more quickly.

The Kaypro 2X was long in the tooth, by that point.

I wonder whether it will still fire up?

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pjmlp 9 hours ago 1 reply      
Nice, just a bit disappointed it was in BCPL and not Mesa.
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Medium and the Scourge of Persistent Sharing Dickbars daringfireball.net
74 points by K2L8M11N2  3 hours ago   27 comments top 9
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drewmol 32 minutes ago 0 replies      
Click the link and start to read, I am certainly familiar and similarly annoyed with the first complaint:>Every Medium site displays an on-screen sharing bar that covers the actual content I want to read. This is particularly annoying on the phone, where screen real estate is most precious.

I open the link to the listed example, and mobile.twitter.com covers the top 25% of screen with a login prompt(likely an app store redirect if I take the bait? I use, seldomly, 'Tinfoil' client app from FDroid if I want to login to Twitter), and the bottom 25% with the notice about the ever evolving 'privacy/divulgance' policy.Oy Vey... Really makes me appreciate the few text only, practical UI, bullshit free sites I have left to visit online, like this one.

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mindcrime 2 hours ago 3 replies      
The SEO folks are the same dopes who came up with the genius strategy of requiring 5-10 megabytes of privacy-intrusive CPU-intensive JavaScript on every page load that slows down websites. Now they come to their teams and say, Our pages are too slow we gotta move to AMP so our pages load fast.

You gotta admit, that's pretty much spot-on. The resources some of these websites consume is just mind-boggling.

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skewart 1 hour ago 2 replies      
It's amazing how unpleasant most media sites are to read. Medium may still be better than most, but, like Gruber points out, they've been heading down a bad "growth hacking" path lately.

What really blows my mind is how awful so many websites from old publications with high-quality print editions are. A lot of these publications had quality standards for advertisers, and they worked hard to design nice-looking print layouts. As a result, even if there were a lot of ads they were at least unobtrusive and often kind of interesting and worth looking at in and of themselves. But it's like publishers are somehow incapable of thinking about a website the same way they think about a magazine.

When I end up on a website that takes fifteen seconds to load, makes text jump around as different ads are displayed and hidden, autoplays video, and pesters me with popups I wonder if anyone who works at the publisher ever actually uses their website. I mean, who, in their right mind, could ever think they were providing an even halfway decent product?

I have absolutely no sympathy when legacy publishers who peddle terrible, low-quality product struggle and go out of business. I mean, I hate to see media power consolidating into Facebook's hands, and it sucks when people lose their jobs, but these publishers have no one to blame but themselves.

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subpixel 50 minutes ago 0 replies      
Reddit's 'stop reading this on the slow mobile web and read it in our fast app' persistent dialog is a similar scourge.
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icanhackit 32 minutes ago 0 replies      
This doesn't add much to the discussion but the term on-screen engagement turds, as Gruber puts it, is what I'll be calling them in the future. Really cuts to the heart of what marketing/business development teams have served up to everyone.

I wonder what kind of conversations take place when they're considering implementing this UI bloat. "People love sharing, let's help them share!" Like they're actually helping readers, rather than realize it's a rhetorical lie to help them get past the fact that they have no respect for the end user and are singularly focused on meeting a KPI that will net them more money than the creators of the actual content - you know, the reason why people are even on the fucking website in the first place.

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coleifer 2 hours ago 2 replies      
Along with these complaints, I wish there was a greater sense of urgency among publishers to reduce page bloat. Some news sites require megabytes of javascript, video, and god-knows-what to display a couple kilobytes of text. It's crazy out there.
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joshka 39 minutes ago 0 replies      
Even worse are the app based "dickbars". Facebook, Twitter, Yelp, etc... all seem to think that embedding a webview is the helpful rather than an extra annoying step.
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jim-jim-jim 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm on an iPhone 5 and can't adblock without side-loading an app, so I just keep javascript disabled in Safari instead. Keeps these bars from appearing on Medium and everywhere else.

They still shouldn't be there in the first place though.

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jccalhoun 2 hours ago 0 replies      
this is yet another reason why people use adblockers and things like noscript
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Show HN: Fast C-based HTML 5 parsing for Python github.com
131 points by aumerle  11 hours ago   52 comments top 11
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jacquesm 6 hours ago 5 replies      
Python: interactive glue language between high performance C libraries. It's funny how we have converged on this solution, I use it daily so I'm really not complaining but I really didn't see this as one of the logical outcomes of the various programming language streams.

But when you think about it it is kind of logical: inner loops and low level code tend to be fairly static and are often re-used so it pays of to write them in a language that maximizes for that use-case, but structure can be executed much slower and re-use is relatively low when going from one application to the next so it pays of to write that in another language.

So we get this split roughly halfway down the application stack where we switch from interactive and interpreted high level language to compiled low level language.

It's a very interesting optimum.

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zaszrespawned 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Note: (on the off chance that someone did not know about this :) ) The author is also the only developer of calibre. https://calibre-ebook.com/ which is also based on python
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zer01 3 hours ago 1 reply      
My favorite part about this documentation is actually the "Safety and correctness" section: https://html5-parser.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#safety-and-co...

It shows that a good engineer took the time to think about not only speed, but correctness in implementation, and compiling things with `-pedantic-errors -Wall -Werror` is a practice that I very rarely see in the wild, and should be heralded as good practice. It's far too common to see hundreds of warnings zip past while compiling, and sometimes they do tell you about problems you need to solve.

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dalf 10 hours ago 2 replies      
How fast is compare to lxml with the HTML parser ?

I know that lxml won't parse as many cases as this module, but in many cases lxml can do the job.

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metalliqaz 9 hours ago 1 reply      
Where are the test that show it's 30x faster? Otherwise, pretty cool. I only do occasional HTML parsing in scripts, so whatever is builtin and BeautifulSoup is good enough for me, but I can surely imagine a 30x speedup being not only useful but necessary for large processing jobs or a scaled-up user interface.
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sebcat 10 hours ago 2 replies      
I made a pull request[1] for gumbo-parser a while ago. While it is a wonderful project, it seems to be in need of a new maintainer, or a maintained fork.

[1] https://github.com/google/gumbo-parser/pull/370

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ernsheong 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Would it be possible to interface this with other languages? e.g. Go, Ruby, Java, or is there a hard dependency on Python?
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pwdisswordfish 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Why does it bundle a copy of the gumbo library instead of just linking to it?
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RUTHLESS_RUFUS 10 hours ago 2 replies      
Speed isn't everything. How permissive is the parser? We look for a compromise here.
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jszymborski 10 hours ago 1 reply      
This would replace html5lib in BeautifulSoup nicely :)
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droithomme 10 hours ago 1 reply      
The gumbo build uses the flag -Wunused-but-set-variable which was added in gcc 4.6. The build script doesn't check for gcc 4.6 though and simply fails.
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The Stack Clash qualys.com
201 points by fcambus  12 hours ago   42 comments top 8
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0x0 11 hours ago 1 reply      
This looks pretty brutal.

Quote from Kurt Seifried of RedHat http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/06/19/2

"I just want to publicly thank Qualys for working with the Open Source community so we (Linux and BSD) could all get this fixed properly. There was a lot of work from everyone involved and it all went pretty smoothly."

Debian security advisories rapid fire:

glibc https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2017/msg00...

linux https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2017/msg00...

exim4 https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2017/msg00...

libffi https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2017/msg00...

And just a sample from the Qualys announcement (out of many more), "local-root exploit against Exim", "local-root exploit against Sudo (Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS)", "local-root exploit against /bin/su", "local-root exploit against ld.so and most SUID-root binaries (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS)", "local-root exploit against /usr/bin/rsh (Solaris 11)", as well as proof of concepts for OpenBSD, FreeBSD and so on.

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jtchang 9 hours ago 3 replies      
That is a crazy number of CVEs. At a quick glace I am seeing a lot of local root exploits. Generally speaking if a attacker has an account on your system you are already hosed. But this doesn't bode well for more vulnerabilities of this nature that don't require local root.
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staticassertion 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Take note of the Grsecurity section. We already have the technology necessary to mitigate or significantly reduce the impact of these vulnerabilities.

Solid writeup.

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age_bronze 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm very surprised. I was sure -fstack-check was on by default. The fact that it isn't secure without it is known for years. Windows compilers have had that check for years. The bug isn't in any executables, gcc and all other compilers should have -fstack-check on by default, with optional disable. I'm even more suprised that people who are supposed to know what they are doing don't compile with it.
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dgellow 11 hours ago 4 replies      
Could someone explain the situation like if I was 5?
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cbhl 9 hours ago 2 replies      
It's not clear to me why compiling all userland code with -fstack-check would help. Couldn't you work around that by copying or creating an executable in assembly that doesn't write every 4 KB?
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0x0 10 hours ago 1 reply      
On 32bit x86, couldn't the SS segment selector be mapped to a completely different set of memory compared to CS/DS/ES and thus remove the possibiliy of the stack and the heap clashing?
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busterarm 8 hours ago 0 replies      
A classic always worth reading: http://insecure.org/stf/smashstack.html
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Cats are an extreme outlier among domestic animals arstechnica.com
16 points by sohkamyung  1 hour ago   3 comments top
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bjornsing 7 minutes ago 2 replies      
> Or maybe cats will continue to defy domestication. They could carve out a place as one of the only animals to befriend humans without ever falling completely under our control.

Let's hope so. It doesn't strike me as a very healthy relationship that one party controls the other's DNA... :P

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Petrified Forest laphamsquarterly.org
34 points by prostoalex  7 hours ago   7 comments top
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Aloha 5 hours ago 5 replies      
About 5 years ago I wondered when we all became so afraid of everything - and while I cant believe the premise that its a master plan by unknown forces to sell more weapons of war - it is pervasive and does seem to be media driven.
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Show HN: Termplay: Play videos in your terminal github.com
62 points by LEGOlord208  9 hours ago   9 comments top 5
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tilpner 5 hours ago 1 reply      
I see these every so often, but they never mention Sixels, which could be used to display videos with much more detail (like with https://github.com/saitoha/FFmpeg-SIXEL ).

Sixels aren't widely supported, and the implementations I tried were lacking in stability, but they offer some interesting possibilities, like embedding images into your text browser (and not with a hack like w3m uses), or playing Battle for Wesnoth inside your terminal [ https://github.com/saitoha/libsixel ]

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Retr0spectrum 6 hours ago 2 replies      
Mplayer can do this by default e.g.

 $ CACA_DRIVER=ncurses mplayer -quiet -vo caca video.avi
Here's the Silicon Valley intro in glorious ASCII: http://i.imgur.com/YKP6nfP.png

I had some audio sync issues with mplayer, and it sounds like termplay avoids that. I'm also not sure if there's a way to use true colour with mplayer.

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tobyjsullivan 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Great! Now can we get this integrated with Lynx so that can be my default browser?
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jitl 5 hours ago 0 replies      
You should allow the user to specify a pixel ratio that describes the width/height of each character of their terminal font. Otherwise, your images will be distorted, because your output pixels are not square.

Here's a screenshot demonstrating this issue, when converting a GIF to text in a terminal:

https://monosnap.com/file/HwrGbSHEwxWlTQCCeXyd9qcFxwL38V.png

On the left, the original image.In the center, a ratio-perserved resized render in a terminalOn the left, a pixel-ratio aware resized render.

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rnmp 7 hours ago 0 replies      
From the creators of April Fools day
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A homeless man who turned his life around by offering book reviews one.org
278 points by Tomte  9 hours ago   141 comments top 8
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tryitnow 8 hours ago 13 replies      
This is a great story. But...someone who has the intelligence and work ethic to do this probably wasn't going to be homeless for long.

Honestly, there are probably millions of people who pull themselves together like this - it's just they end up working regular jobs like maintenance work or burger flipping that aren't as inspirational.

The problem with stories like this is they conflate two problems:(1) being down on your luck (but hard-working and reasonably intelligent)(2) being stuck in a poverty loop due to mental illness, criminal record, or countless other complex factors.

Problem (1) is something a lot of HN readers can relate to, especially in their early twenties. Hence, the popularity of this article.

Problem (2) however is the much bigger problem. Unfortunately, what this guy did is only marginally useful in coming up with solutions to that problem.

All that said, I'm sure he's a pretty cool guy.

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BluishLight 8 hours ago 7 replies      
Sometimes it seems to me that histories like this put the weight of leaving poverty in the individuals himselves rather than the government social services, enforcing the myth that poor people is people that chooses to.
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zer00eyz 8 hours ago 0 replies      
A long time ago I lived in baltimore, and there was a man who was "homeless" (he lived in the church he sat behind so he had a bed) who did just this.

You would give him a book of yours and he would give one back that he though you would enjoy... It was like having a one on one book club, with the greatest recommendations ever.

When I moved from baltimore I gave him the dozen or so books I had to add to his collection, and I always wonder what ever happened to him. I miss having a commute (walk actually) that included the strange bright spot of his presence.

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goatofhehills 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Flash poll; how many of you have been homeless? How many for an extended period (more than 6mo)?
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vellum 4 hours ago 0 replies      
The article never explicitly mentioned him finding a new place to live. I found this reference in a people.com article:

Eventually, Dladla was able to pay rent again and even earned extra income that he used to start a book club for kids in a local park

http://people.com/books/homeless-man-who-sold-book-reviews-t...

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cjiang 7 hours ago 0 replies      
I see he has a potential to be a net celebrity by doing a live streaming show focusing on book reviews with a $100 smart phone.
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aaronbrethorst 8 hours ago 2 replies      
Quick fact check: 20-25% of homeless people in the United States suffer from "a severe mental illness." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/27/mental...)

Props to this guy for turning his life around despite a lack of support from the society he lives in, but there are hundreds of thousands of people here in the United States alone who will never have a similar opportunity.

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SN76477 7 hours ago 0 replies      
This is what I have been thinking lately. Homeless rarely add value.

I know that is some gimmicky terms ... but it feels true.

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Launch HN: Solve (YC S17) We Save International Travelers Hours of Time
95 points by blainevess  10 hours ago   163 comments top 40
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kinkrtyavimoodh 8 hours ago 2 replies      
This seems incredibly pricey, especially for the services you seem to be promising (which, for all the airports I spot-checked, amounted to Meet and Greet, Custom Assistance, and Transport Assistance). Fast tracking was not covered in the base price for any of the airports I checked. Connecting flight service is $745 per person!!!

Your example pricing was for 2 people, but I checked and it looks like the price for 1 is the sameSFO is $375 (for both 1 and 2 passengers), likewise for BOM ($340 for 1). Given how much you are pushing the business traveler angle, I think it'll be more honest to talk about price per passenger, as business travelers rarely travel in pairs.

Business travelers typically travel light, and might not need as much baggage assistance or custom assistance. Likewise, you only claim to provide assistance booking transportation (the passenger pays for the actual transport), which means that unless someone is traveling to a very very 'foreign' land (where no one speaks English, the signage is very confusing, you are very likely to be cheated, etc. etc.) I don't see too much value coming out of the service for most travelers.

I understand it's a discretionary spend, and that you can charge whatever you want, and that three or four hundred bucks is throwaway money for many business travelers (or their companies) but I was personally quite disappointed to see the pricing, because I was hoping to use it to get, say, an aging parent through all the airport hassle. For 50-100 bucks, worth considering. For 400, not so much.

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mindhash 7 minutes ago 0 replies      
This could work when my non English speaking parents visit my brother in US. Also there are quite a few travel packages that non English people travel on. Its a very useful solution for such groups. I am not sure how big market you are targeting though. It could be big if you look internationally.All the best
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JimDabell 10 hours ago 10 replies      
One of the first things I do when I arrive in a new country is pick up a local SIM card so I can use my phone without roaming charges. Sometimes this is nice and simple where you just walk to a booth in the airport and pick one up, other times it's a real hassle, having to hunt around for a local shop and fill in personal information on sign-up. Have you considered providing local SIM cards as part of your service?
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a13n 10 hours ago 2 replies      
Hey Blaine! Congrats on your launch.

My co-founder Sarah and I just moved from SF to travel the world while we bootstrap our startup, Canny. I'm also a huge fan of products like Shyp, Instacart, Prime Now, and Gobble that let you trade money for time. I think I could be your target customer.

However, $210 sounds pretty darn expensive for HK. I just went there last Nov. It didn't take much research at all to figure out how to get the 2 of us downtown on the bus for $40-50. The immigration process was smooth.

Maybe I haven't felt the pain point you describe, or maybe I'm not wealthy/spendy enough to be your target customer.

My feedback for you would be to work on crafting a story that sounds like "oh man, that's a life saver" rather than "save a few hours". Or maybe be more obvious that your product is just for the very wealthy and business travelers - like a high end credit card or something?

Just my 2 cents, hope it was useful. Best of luck!

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pdovy 5 hours ago 1 reply      
I'd agree with other commenters here that it seems pretty expensive for what you're getting, or at least the value proposition is poorly presented. For example, I don't see any reason why I'd want to pay for this at a US airport (at least from the perspective of a US citizen). On the other hand if you told me the immigration line at XYZ airport was typically 45-60 minutes long and you could guarantee me priority access, there is a value there that I might pay for.

The pricing also seem really opaque - the prices even within a single country vary (from $250 at JFK in the US to $375 at SFO, why?). Certainly the going rate for a fixer at the location must play into this, but from a customer perspective I'd expect the fee to mostly depend on the value to me - I'll pay more if the expected level of delay or hassle is high. That might actually be inverse of the rate you pay the fixer - there's less value in US/Europe for me than if I'm traveling in e.g., Southeast Asia.

Overall though I think this is an interesting idea and I'd be a customer at the right price point, at least for certain destinations. Good luck!

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clamprecht 8 hours ago 3 replies      
It's a good idea, and it reminds me of "handlers" in the general/business aviation world. When you land, they expedite your fueling, customs, immigration, overfly permits, flight planning & routing, and more.

Back to normal travelers - I wish there were a free wiki that covered all this, since it seems like it's just a matter of having the right information. Like knowing which office to go in, what forms to have ready, etc. I guess it'd be more targeted towards casual travelers who won't pay $200 for this kind of service.

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anovikov 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Do it guys! There is definitely a demand for this!!!

VIP lounges, fast track and other premium services are all different from airport to airport, procedure for ordering them is unpredictable and sometimes cumbersome (like, faxing a request on the company blank and paying through the wire transfer ONLY, no credit cards accepted - that isn't an exception, but more like the accepted practice). If you will figure it out to the Uber level, when i can take an iPhone app, type in my booking reference for the flight, pay through the attached paypal account or CC, predictable and reasonable price, and someone will meet me at the entrance to the airport or off the plane and get through everything - that will be a killer!

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bluesign 9 hours ago 3 replies      
First of all this is a great service, and congratulations on the launch.

But...

After checking I am a bit disappointed:

- Istanbul: $235.00 Not including "Fast Track Immigration/Customs" for 2 passengersyou can get local fast track card (I think it is around $500 for a year) which grants fast track on immigration/customs and also for all security checkpoints for 2 pax

- Amsterdam: $345.00 Includes fast track vs Privium Basic 121 yearly incl. VAT

- London: $220.00 Includes fast track vs AFAIK it is around 50 GBP for fast track for one time

Also I think if target is business travelers, a lot of airlines provide complimentary fast track for business class travelers. I don't recall not using fast track when flying business.

TBH I dont think Meet and Assist has big value, unless you provide some added value there.

Also at least I was expecting some lounge access on departures.

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rsync 8 hours ago 1 reply      
How does this work, inbound, to the US ?

When I return to the US (San Francisco) on first class or business tickets there is no segregation of lines/service - you queue up in the big line and wait your turn (45-60 minutes later) like everyone else.

Other than diplomats, I see no mechanism for expediting immigration/customs inbound to the US and my (short, reckless) research suggested that expedited immigration/customs is not a perk for any level of ticket price or "elite" status.

Perhaps I misunderstand ?

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dankohn1 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I landed in Beijing Sunday and arranged a car from my hotel since Uber doesn't work here. I arranged via email for the Intercontinental to send an Audi for me and my colleague for CNY 780 (USD 114). Included in the price was an expediter service of a very nice woman who met us at the gate and accompanied us through immigration until she put us in the car.

In Europe, your service doesn't make sense either, because Uber to a hotel is so convenient and reliable.

I'm your target audience, but I don't think you've hit product market fit yet.

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venning 10 hours ago 4 replies      
Off-topic, but how expensive are five-letter, English word .com domains right now? I don't see new companies with domains that are small-ish words very often.
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seanmcdirmid 5 hours ago 0 replies      
In Denpasar, Indonesia (the airport for Bali), you could always get through immigration/customs by bribing the immigration officers. Actually, they would come through the lines telling us about their "service" given that they immigration lines were moving so slowly (and I have a feeling, this was by design). With the new airport and more efficient immigration lines, these people have disappeared, however.

I wonder what kind of relationship you need to set up a kind of service that would even allow you to meetup at the arrival gate? Many airports simply have nothing for this beyond VIPs, I can't think of any airport in China that would do this, for example, which is why all the people are holding up signs waiting for their charges outside of customs.

Edit: they seem to offer service at PEK (https://www.solve.com/pricing/pek), but DAMN those prices are sky high (start at $1,690). I guess that answers my question then.

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calcsam 2 hours ago 1 reply      
To HN readers complaining about pricing: You Are Not The Target Audience. At least unless you (or your employer) are willing to pay $2000 extra to fly BER-SFO first class to get an extra few hours of sleep on your way to a high-value meeting.

To co-founders: I hope you know this as well! Keep pricing in a way that shows you understand your target market.

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refrigerator 10 hours ago 2 replies      
Looks interesting! Out of curiosity, how do you guys actually expedite clients through immigration/customs/security? Do airports really let you do this?
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orliesaurus 8 hours ago 1 reply      
HeyI travel a lot, always economy class, I hate queues...Im not sure about this, is it legal to speed up immigration process? Like how can non airport staff even get access to help you speed up internal airport stuff? I understand prebooking a taxi and helping you carry luggage? But anything else?
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paulsutter 7 hours ago 1 reply      
How are you able to consistently skip the lines in so many countries? I love this idea but my skepticism would prevent me from trying it.

A better explanation might help resolve that. Is it sketchy? does it involves bribes? Is it just a scam? These are the questions that will give your target customers doubts. If I knew it was legit I would always use it.

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patrickg_zill 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Hopefully you will have better optimization of providers in the future, allowing for better pricing.

For instance, arriving at SVO (Sheremetevo airport in Russia) you want $735 for meet and greet and transportation help.

Yet local pricing for transportation into Moscow is no more than $75 for the one way trip (SVO is a bit outside of Moscow proper) and, well, very capable translators are available for what, $50/hour or less? I've paid as little as $10/hour, though not at the airport.

SVO already has express lanes IIRC for USA citizens at least. You should either have this info noted or possibly figure out how to integrate this into your service.

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peteretep 7 hours ago 2 replies      
I do a lot of international business travel, mostly in business. 3 figures of flights last year. I would use this service, but you're about 2x as expensive as I'd pay for it.

For example, you want 140 for landing at Suvarnabhumi. This gets me Fast Track immigration, but I already get that if I'm landing in business, and help with onwards transportation, but as per most airports, the place is swamped with good quality limo transfers for maybe 2x the price of a regular taxi. So I'd be paying 140 for a cart from deplane to immigration, plus perhaps shortening priority immigration, and help with luggage. That definitely has some value, maybe up to 70, but 140 is way too much.

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twiss 7 hours ago 0 replies      
With all the stories about US immigration recently, I think what people would pay for is: fast-tracked and friendlier US immigration for international travelers, nothing more, nothing less.

There are some programs to fast-track US immigration here [1], but only from a short list of countries [2].

1: https://www.dhs.gov/trusted-traveler-programs

2: https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-...

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jelmerdejong 9 hours ago 1 reply      
Like the idea! Especially on airports that are famous for their lines and waiting time (JFK...) winning time at immigration and avoid standing in line for a taxi quickly saves you 2 hours. For the business traveler that is almost 2 extra meetings, and for the family traveler that is 2 hours less stress and crying children.

I registered a domain name a while back 'DeliveryOnArrival.com' with the idea to also accelerate business travel. The plan was that you could travel with less stuff (and therefore could bring only hand luggage) and get what normally use and need delivered on arrival: at the airport gate, in your Uber, in your Hertz rental, or at your hotel. Never executed on it though, maybe a nice add-on service (I would use it).

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hayksaakian 9 hours ago 2 replies      
Super cool!

Dubai airport has a service called 'marhaba' which basically does this but only in Dubai.

It's great for helping someone who is older or disabled figure out their connecting flights through an airport.

Smart to bring this to more places.

Your pricing is pretty spot on too, it's a bit less expensive than marhaba btw.

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krmmalik 9 hours ago 1 reply      
I've been dreaming of a service like this since last year. Im travelling to Malaysia in a couple of weeks from Heathrow and would love to get through security faster. I paid $8 (approx) to get through security faster at Luton airport when i was travelling to Amsterdam and i loved it. But unfortunately such a service is not available at Heathrow unless i buy business class or have an executive club membership.

$225 is rather pricey for me. Its a bit beyond my budget, but id happily pay $60ish to get through security/customs faster on my out to Malaysia from Heathrow if it was possible in anyway. If anyone from Solve is reading this please let me know if you can do something for me?

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squarks 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Instead of personal attention, what if there were a kiosk in every (or many) airports, like a RedBox, where you could get your tickets, SIM card, or whatever predictably before arriving? Or perhaps even a locker where someone gets all your things and puts them in the locker for you for when you arrive? That might keep the costs down.
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FLUX-YOU 10 hours ago 1 reply      
What are you using to coordinate with your staff that actually meet customers? Do you have a mobile app or an internal website they use for this?

Same questions for customers: Agents could acknowledge that they are there and waiting (with the customer's desired name/special request). It could also function as a customer support interface as well as providing the support phone number.

This seems like it would be very attractive for business-to-business with traveling employees as well.

Good luck!

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anaskar 10 hours ago 2 replies      
This is great! This is sort of like how Clear brokers deals with airports to expedite security, except for more interesting and complicated airport processes.

Could have used this coming back from Rome to the United States via Spain. Ended up going through customs 4 times just to make a transfer.

Curious how difficult it was to do this for 500+ airports so quickly, especially since you're a private company and operating beyond security gates in an era of permanently heightened security.

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brenschluss 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I wouldn't use language like "Quick Quote" - I associate "quote" with "We'll call you back on the phone in a few hours or days". Just write "Pricing", etc.
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Animats 9 hours ago 1 reply      
So what assets do you have on the ground at each airport you serve? Do you really have offices at all those locations? Or are you just a booking agent for the companies with those shady-looking web sites?
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geocar 8 hours ago 1 reply      
This sounds awesome. I've never heard of you.

I commute internationally for work, but I've bookmarked you then to try out the next time I hit an unfamiliar airport.

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simplehuman 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Just wondering if there is any backstory to the name 'solve'? Congrats on the launch
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neerkumar 10 hours ago 1 reply      
I think this can make sense. I recently traveled with a toddler for the first time. I was amazed by how in certain airports (the Asian ones), when they saw I had a toddler, they managed to speed up the process by sending me to other lines. At the same time, in the US they didn't send me to any special line and was horrible. I would have easily paid 200$ to avoid staying in line with a toddler.

The website though seems so vague. It is really hard to understand exactly what I would be paying for. There is a little bit of everything and nothing is very concrete.

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deepGem 9 hours ago 1 reply      
Guys - this is way better than the crappy concierge service that many credit card companies offer. I got a bad experience with DBS Treasures. I'm wondering how you guys will compete or complement TSA pre-check or other comparable services, for example the premium immigration service at LGW that can be purchased for 10 GBP.
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rllin 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Where are you seeing (your own comprehensive market research?) that there's an actual demand for this? I'm very curious as wanting a service like this seems like such an odd desire to me. Traveling is cumbersome at times, but those that do it often often have it down to a science themselves.
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bhaile 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I like this and will be exploring it when my travel picks up again. Have you posted this in the forums at FlyerTalk? Highly engaged community that features lots of premium flyers and will give candid feedback as well.
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potomak 7 hours ago 1 reply      
I must say the logo resembles Tomatoes[0] productivity app logo very much.

[0] http://tomato.es

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aracarie 9 hours ago 1 reply      
This looks great, will definitely try it out next time I travel. Looks like there is no fast tracking immigration/customs for US airports though? Any plans to add this in the future?
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aloukissas 6 hours ago 1 reply      
The value-add over the $95/5 years of Global Entry doesn't seem to warrant the price.
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ck_one 10 hours ago 2 replies      
Can you eloborate on what "fast track immigration" means? How can you get your customers faster through immigration?
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Nadya 8 hours ago 1 reply      
This is something I could actually see myself using soon, what perfect timing to stumble upon it.

ps. Whatever SEO marketer you went to, abandon them ASAP. The spammed geo pages (in this case: airport pages) with duplicate content is going to impact your rankings negatively. It is considered a "black hat" SEO technique. That or differentiate the content in a meaningful way. I only checked 4~ of the pages and they were all the same, so I'm assuming they all are. I could be wrong, but even then you'd want to change any that are too similar.

E: A small grammar fix.

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wbeckler 10 hours ago 2 replies      
If it's possible to pay more to avoid the hassle that the other 99% have to deal with, then there is even less incentive for elites to rein in the unnecessary hassle.

I'm sure the 1% will love it, but due to the political calculus, your success will make the world a worse place.

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petraeus 8 hours ago 0 replies      
$540.00 to land at YYZ for a glorified bag carrier? What is this?

p.s. solve isnt a great domain I hope you change it, something like traveller.com

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Structural Propensity Database of Proteins doi.org
37 points by ktamiola  8 hours ago   5 comments top 2
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jfarlow 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Interesting approach to getting at some dark spaces in our current understanding. What kind of computation time does it take to run against a single amnio acid chain? Can you get much (nice disorder predictions?) out of an amino acid sequence alone?

Our protein design work has its origins coming from a different angle. But there are some interesting thoughts we've had about utilizing (well, dreamed up) technologies like yours to quickly make up a lot of ground between structural prediction, and empirical functional design.

Starting to see such 21st century data standards for bio data! Yay for everyone!

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cing 6 hours ago 2 replies      
Nice work lowering the entry barrier for machine learning in this space, which appears to be the aim of your company, but it's a bit of a tease to claim your data representation is great for supporting ML and stop short of doing any of that in the manuscript. I take it that's the next step?

On that note, is there any reason why the propensity classes alpha/beta/coil are still so widely used? Especially coil/turn/"other". It seems to me that these are ancient artifacts of structural biology that could definitely restrict human understanding of protein dynamics. Perhaps there is nuance in the chemical shift data that may help the design of better structural classes using ML.

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The Intel Skylake-X Review: Core i9-7900X, i7-7820X and i7-7800X Tested anandtech.com
110 points by jsheard  14 hours ago   76 comments top 12
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dis-sys 7 minutes ago 0 replies      
Saw some test results on Chinese website claiming that once fully loaded the temp can jump to 100+ degrees when running at stock frequency without any form of overclocking.

It that true?

http://img1.mydrivers.com/img/20170620/0ff9382549894c64a9989...

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bhauer 12 hours ago 3 replies      
The 7740X retaining dominance in browser-oriented tests demonstrates the continued bottleneck we suffer due to the "single-threaded" (or nominally single-threaded) predilection of web browsers, the DOM, and JavaScript. Servo and other concurrency-oriented innovations are going to be very welcome when they arrive in earnest.
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faragon 6 hours ago 2 replies      
TL;DR: Intel is having hard time to keep up against AMD. It reminds me the Pentium 4 era, when Intel had to push clock and power consumption to crazy levels [1]

[1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/11550/the-intel-skylakex-revie...

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vosper 12 hours ago 1 reply      
In the meantime, the 6 core Broadwell-E I7-6850K has seen a big price drop - down from $650 to $480 on several sites. It's still expensive compared to the Kaby Lake I7-7700K, but if you wanted two more cores then it's now a much more reasonable option. People seem to have very good results overclocking it, too.

Edit: Having just seen that the i7-7800X is priced at $389, I'm thinking the I7-6850K is still overpriced, unless you need 40 PCI-E lanes.

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Symmetry 7 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm surprised at how well Ryzen is holding up in FP terms despite the relative lack of flops on paper. I guess having a separate floating point cluster is enough of an advantage to make up for that? It really makes me want to see how it works with robot motion planning at work.
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bratao 12 hours ago 1 reply      
Im surprised to see how the AMD Ryzen are still holding on the benchmarks
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satai 12 hours ago 5 replies      
Any idea, why is Intel so much better at Chrome compilation?
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gbrown_ 14 hours ago 2 replies      
Nice to see a breakdown of the myriad of AVX-512 instruction sets. This isn't something Intel was saying much about prior to official launches.
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Retric 13 hours ago 1 reply      
Those Base/Turbo numbers seem off 3.6 / 4.0 GHz (6 core) 3.3 / 4.3 GHz (8 core) while they both are 140W parts.

ED: looks like it's missing the favored core mode which is probably important for gaming. Which brings up an interesting question if CPU's are now going to last ~5 years, is buying a 500+$ CPU reasonable?

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drzaiusapelord 12 hours ago 6 replies      
Looks like we're back to P4-style levels of power use. Not sure how I feel about consumer chips running 150 watts on the regular. That's a lot more carbon in the atmosphere for questionable reasons.

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i9-7900X...

Incredibly, the 7900X is hitting 240 watts. When was the last time we had a chip that burned that much energy? Granted, its destined for the server room, but a 2U quad CPU box will be hitting 1000 watts on CPU usage alone at 100% utilization. That's close to a medium-sized window AC unit.

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jjawssd 8 hours ago 1 reply      
Browsers that take advantage of multiple cores more effectively will accelerate the rate at which Intel circles the drain in consumer applications.

EDIT: why the downvotes? explain yourselves

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knorker 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Wow. From multiple sites releasing reviews it's clear that an embargo was just lifted.

And anandtech couldn't bother writing a proper article? Sentence after sentence just hard to read, with extra commas and just poor sentence structures. Did they not have time during the embargo?

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Search-based compiler code generation thesharps.us
29 points by JoshTriplett  6 hours ago   1 comment top
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CalChris 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I'd compare this to Unison [1,2] where they combine register allocation and instruction scheduling into a single phase using combinatorial optimization. Usually you have to choose one before the other.

[1] http://llvm.org/devmtg/2017-03//assets/slides/register_alloc...

[2] https://www.sics.se/~rcas/publications/CastanedaCarlssonEa_C...

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Macaron: a high productive and modular web framework in Go go-macaron.com
11 points by type0  4 hours ago   4 comments top 2
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virmundi 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I quickly looked this over. Does Golang have some hidden ORM like feature that makes complex persistence easy? I spent the last three months working on a storage mechanism that controls all of CRUD at the document level across what is essentially Google Groups (each op is allowed to multiple groups). This is where web work is complex.
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cgdub 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Does this have hot reloading?
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Inside the Largest US Voter Data Leak upguard.com
383 points by danso  14 hours ago   300 comments top 29
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DannyBee 12 hours ago 4 replies      
Speaking as a guy with a lot of experience with voter data ( I built the first "where do I vote" apps for Google and helped found the voting information project):

This is actually almost entirely public data. Yes, including addresses and phone numbers and political affiliation. There are some states that is not public as part of the voter file, but you can still get it other ways publicly. For example: USPS, etc. Some states/players would make you sign agreements not to use it for commercial purposes.

The modeling info included is not public.

Acquiring 50 state data can be a bit of a pain, but there are at least two major players that will sell it to you.(I remember one of them literally laughed when I told them we would want the databases without any personal info included, because we just wanted the address to various political precinct mapping.)

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_Codemonkeyism 12 hours ago 6 replies      
As long as the CEO of an company (RNC) that gives data to an outsourcer (Deep Root Analytics) is not going to jail to give data to an unqualified company, nothing will change.

If the CEO goes to jail, things will change very rapidly (CEO will manage his CMO much tighter who will first want to see an security audit not older than 6 months).

At least CEOs I have reported to as CTO were very sensitive for implemention issues in areas that could land them in jail.

Same for every other hacking (e.g. Sony) or IT failure (e.g. British Airlines crashed DC).

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wyldfire 12 hours ago 7 replies      
I hate to be in the position of defending a leak such as this. But if what they've done is "merely" compiling data that was available from our public profiles, are they obligated to secure that compilation? I'm asking -- I don't know for sure how the data was gathered, it just sounds like it was from scraping public records + public web sites.

Also, can someone ask Troy Hunt whether he has or can get access to this data so he can let us all know if we're on it? (But will it even matter if they don't have an email address field?)

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sschueller 12 hours ago 1 reply      
Wow, not good:

 "State", "Juriscode", "Jurisname", "CountyFIPS", "MCD", "CNTY", "Town", "Ward", "Precinct", "Ballotbox", "PrecinctName", "NamePrefix", "FirstName", "MiddleName", "LastName", "NameSuffix", "Sex", "BirthYear", "BirthMonth", "BirthDay", "OfficialParty", "StateCalcParty", "RNCCalcParty", "StateVoterID", "JurisdictionVoterID", "LastActiveDate", "RegistrationDate", "VoterStatus", "SelfReportedDemographic", "ModeledEthnicity", "ModeledReligion", "ModeledEthnicGroup", "RegistrationAddr1", "RegistrationAddr2", "RegHouseNum", "RegHouseSfx", "RegStPrefix", "RegStName", "RegStType", "RegstPost", "RegUnitType", "RegUnitNumber", "RegCity", "RegSta", "RegZip5", "RegZip4", "RegLatitude", "RegLongitude", "RegGeocodeLevel", "ChangeOfAddress", "COADate", "COAType", "MailingAddr1", "MailingAddr2", "MailHouseNum", "MailHouseSfx", "MailStPrefix", "MailStName", "MailStType", "MailStPost", "MailUnitType", "MailUnitNumber", "MailCity", "MailSta", "MailZip5", "MailZip4", "MailSortCodeRoute", "MailDeliveryPt", "MailDeliveryPtChkDigit", "MailLineOfTravel", "MailLineOfTravelOrder", "MailDPVStatus", "MADR_LastCleanse", "MADR_LastCOA", "AreaCode", "TelephoneNUm", "TelSourceCode", "TelMatchLevel", "TelReliability", "FTC_DoNotCall"

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Lagged2Death 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Microtargeting is trying to unravel your political DNA, [Gage] said. The more information I have about you, the better. The more information [Gage] has, the better he can group people into "target clusters" with names such as Flag and Family Republicans or Tax and Terrorism Moderates. Once a person is defined, finding the right message from the campaign becomes fairly simple.

Neal Stephenson wrote a book called Interface which predicted a form of tech-enabled micro-targeted politics over 20 years ago. It was disturbing at the time; it's almost considered business-as-usual now.

I believe American democracy would benefit from including the study of such techniques in our educational curriculum. When I was in school, we studied advertising techniques to help us be skeptical. We need the same for targeted political messages now.

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opensourcenews 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I still don't understand the concern.

Want the name, age, gender, home address, mailing address, party of registration, and voter history from every registered voter in North Carolina? Here is the "leak" on Amazon S3. http://dl.ncsbe.gov/index.html?prefix=data/

Except, by leak, I mean, link I got from my state board of elections' homepage.

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pdog 12 hours ago 2 replies      
This raises so many questions...

Why is U.S. voter registration made public at the individual name/address level?

Why do the states publish their voter registrations in the first place?

Why should private campaign operations (or anyone else) have access to this data?

Shouldn't voters' privacy be protected by the states?

Is there a privacy policy you can review when you register to vote?

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rattray 10 hours ago 3 replies      
I don't typically don hats with this much tin foil, and I don't think this is likely, but...

The real danger of data like this, in my opinion, illegal usage for voter fraud.

Find people who are likely to vote against you and likely to have poor voter registration documents, and remove them from the polls so they can't vote.

Find people who aren't likely to vote at all and vote on their behalf. In-person, the only verification required is name & address. By mail, the only requirement is a signature, which can be obtained from receipts (I assume this is available on black hat markets).

Leaving this S3 bucket as public-read allows for deniable coordination with illegal actors. I can't imagine they did this on purpose but that could be an explanation.

I don't know if it's possible, but I hope the FBI / Mueller team is able to get access logs.

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ploggingdev 11 hours ago 2 replies      
I have this theory that the only way regular people will start caring about privacy breaches such as this one is to use that data against them in a malicious way. Tell the average Joe that the data of all US voters has been leaked, "Hmmm. That's bad." and they move on with their lives as if nothing happened. Instead, if this data is used to impersonate the average Joe on social media or if it's used to trick their mobile carrier into porting out their number, then they'll take notice. (I am not suggesting people do this, it was just part of a thought experiment)

Unless the company involved is sued to bankruptcy and the people involved are prosecuted, sending a strong message to companies dealing with user data, nothing will change. But that's unlikely to happen as this company is backed by the RNC.

While we're on the topic of collecting personal data of people, there's a simple solution : just don't collect it unless it's absolutely necessary. Stop asking me to broadcast my address in my newsletter. Stop asking me to submit my billing address when I make payments online. Stop asking me for my mobile number when I visit a fast food restaurant. Most of the companies that collect this data are not competent enough to keep it secure. The reason companies ask for an address to broadcast in users' newsletters is some anti-spam act which does not prevent the spammers from doing their job. I imagine it's also a requirement for companies to collect a billing address for certain types of online payments. Change the law to remove these poorly thought out legislature.

More generally, we need regulations on how user data is used by companies. They should not be allowed to store user data indefinitely. If a user closes an account with a company, retain the data for a short period (eg- 1 year) and then delete the data automatically. Companies should not be allowed to build shadow profiles of users.

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Taniwha 7 hours ago 2 replies      
I think people are missing the big legal liability .... this information has been published to the world, it contains estimates of people's deeply held political beliefs - some of it will be wildly wrong and those people might consider that they have been libeled .... roll on the lawsuits
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gruez 12 hours ago 1 reply      
Are the leaked files floating aroubd on the internet, or were they able to shut it down before anyone else got to it?
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vinhboy 11 hours ago 3 replies      
> It would ultimately take days, from June 12th to June 14th, for Vickery to download 1.1 TB of publicly accessible files

Do security firms have special permission to do this? Because as a private citizen, I am pretty sure I would go to jail if I tried this.

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elihu 5 hours ago 0 replies      
What are the legal implications of a campaign using this leaked modelling data? Would it be breaking any existing laws to use data that was leaked to the public without the permission of the original company that did the modelling? (If nothing else, I suppose it's probably a copyright violation.)

Hypothetically, could one deliberately leak a trove of modelling data with some fake voters inserted, and then monitor the mailbox associated with that fake voter and sue any organization you don't like that sends campaign flyers for using the data without permission?

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jurry289 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Related: This legally mandated "leak" happened years ago, and it even included signatures. Most of the citizens pushing for the recall of a sitting republican governor were democrats, so it seemed like punishment for a Republican state assembly to pass this one-off policy. Especially for those who have zero internet-presence. The first thing many employers see when they search for politically active democrats is this information, paired with "quick searches" of their names on criminal, pedophile and dangerous persons databases. If you want to disinsentivize political action, this is how you do it. I won't link to that site, but can confirm it's still up.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/01/politics/wisconsin-recall-peti...

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kjhughes 12 hours ago 1 reply      
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azinman2 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Is this available online in a searchable way? I want to see what it has on me...
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MR4D 7 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm just waiting to hear Trump tell Deep Root Analytics, "You're Fired!"

It would be good to see him make this a clear case of responsibility. Also, someone on the RNC side needs to get fired, too. I'm not sure who, but errors this big demand it.

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mlindner 10 hours ago 2 replies      
Except this isn't a leak. This is publicly searchable information. I don't know why people are blowing this out of proportion.
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apeace 11 hours ago 4 replies      
> Spreadsheets containing this accumulated datalast updated around the January 2017 presidential inaugurationconstitute a treasure trove of political data and modeled preferences used by the Trump campaign

Genuinely curious: can you really have 198 million rows in a spreadsheet?

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nothis 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Doesn't this kinda make many (flawed but still in use) "security measures" incredibly vulnerable to social engineering? That's all the birth dates and phone numbers. That's crazy!
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LinuxBender 9 hours ago 0 replies      
If I jokingly suggested to the gov that AWS S3 be categorized by all firewall vendors as "Anonymous File Sharing", would I get a yuge response?
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DelaneyM 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Sounds like one heck of an AI training set.

DeepTrump?

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fulldecent 6 hours ago 1 reply      
TLDR. Was any of the information non-public?
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mgleason_3 11 hours ago 2 replies      
Is StateVoterID the same thing as your Social Security Number (SSN)?
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dsfyu404ed 12 hours ago 1 reply      
If you're a glass half full person at least they care about the do not call list enough to give it its own column.
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SunnyCanuck 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Has this been re-leaked onto the torrents yet?
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rootsudo 13 hours ago 5 replies      
In other news, already known information. Every USA states has clear laws on releasing whose registered with which party, past affiliation and address.

Clickbait.

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Is group chat making you sweat? signalvnoise.com
10 points by duck  1 hour ago   1 comment top
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tyingq 26 minutes ago 0 replies      
This resonated well with me. I've always preferred email to chat, for many of the reasons cited in the article.

The trouble is, it's too far to the right. Some people don't respond for days. So we have tools with instant response expectations, and ones with variable expectations. Nothing with clear "within a day" expectations. Email used to be that way, until too many peed in that pool.

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Saving the last samples of dying species qz.com
69 points by frgtpsswrdlame  13 hours ago   4 comments top
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lightedman 10 hours ago 3 replies      
I'm utterly surprised they're not trying to actively clone these plant species.

Might as well get usable DNA out of them now before they disappear to the ravages of time.

That's how we do it at the State citrus park here in SoCal.

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Why is cycling so popular in the Netherlands? bbc.com
165 points by jseliger  11 hours ago   272 comments top 30
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avar 9 hours ago 10 replies      

 > If anything, having a tatty, battered old > bike affords more status as it attests to > a long and lasting love.
As an Amsterdam resident: What a romantic characterization of our high crime rates! Yes, the reason I still ride a shitty old beater of a bike is definitely my long lasting love for that piece of shit, it's not because I know that if I buy anything fancy I'm going to have to never take my eyes off of it, least it be stolen in under half a minute in certain parts of town[1].

1. http://www.iamexpat.nl/blog/culture/amsterdam-wins-european-...

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cdnsteve 8 hours ago 4 replies      
Just came back from a week in Netherlands and stayed in Amsterdam. What a cool place to hang out and take in the sights. Cycling there is huge indeed. The big difference I noticed from Canada was the dedicated infrastructure they have in place. Dedicated cycling lanes everywhere, it's a proper form of transportation. As a tourist, this was weird, I nearly got mowed down a few times but because I was in the wrong and not paying attention. You quickly adapt and realize bike lanes are just as important to watch out for as vehicle lanes. The people are very friendly and nearly all speak English without issue.

I don't agree with cycling on the roads and highways here in Canada, it's chaos and frankly, dangerous. I don't really see if implementing what they have because it's already built in.

The thing that really jumped out at me was when I was waiting for a bus around zaanse schans, about an hour outside of Amsterdam in the country, there was an elementary school that just finished up for the day and every single student came out on bicycles. Myself and a group of Canadian's couldn't believe it. They all happily were socializing on their bikes tightly packed together while riding on the bike path in the country to their homes. Here in Canada nearly everyone takes a giant yellow school bus.

Very nice place, highly recommend checking it out if you have chance. Aside, saw the outside of the Atlassian Amsterdam office too ;)

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jmcphers 10 hours ago 11 replies      
One thing the article doesn't mention is how long the bicycle trips are. Surely the relative compactness of their cities are a major contributing factor!

I live in America and commute on my bicycle almost every day. For me the biggest obstacle isn't the hills (which there are plenty of) or even sharing the road with cars (which is admittedly extremely unpleasant) but the fact that in the quasi-suburban area in which I live, everything's so damned spread out that bicycling is very impractical.

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mmjaa 9 hours ago 1 reply      
I've always enjoyed my cycling trips when I've been in the Netherlands - its just so calming and relaxing, and good for me - but without much stress. There aren't many hills, its for the most part very safe and bicyclists have a place in the transit system that feels very comfortable and, indeed 'right'. There really is something quite right about the feeling - you are getting fit, and going somewhere, and .. well, its just so easy to ride around.

After a month in the Netherlands, I always feel like going back to a car-based society is a huge step backwards. Like, there is a wall of concrete and asphalt and metal and fumes and busy-ness, and we're all just so trapped in it. Like prisoners.

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chrismealy 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I had watched about a million Dutch cycling videos before I went to the Netherlands, but it's even better than the videos make it out. Cycling in the Netherlands is safe, easy, and fun. I rode around with a four-year-old and an almost-two-year-old in a cargo bike and not for a second felt any stress or fear (and my kids absolutely loved it as well, fresh air and no carseats). I can't go half a mile in Seattle without worrying about getting run over. I basically gave up on cycling in America because I can't handle the adrenaline hangover anymore.

One more thing, as great as cycling is in Amsterdam, from what I can tell, it might be the least best place to cycle in the Netherlands, so if you only cycle in Amsterdam you're not even getting the best experience.

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htaunay 9 hours ago 3 replies      
Why wouldn't it be?

It's faster than the tram; a bike is cheap and cycling is free; its way easier to park than a car; its healthy; there are cycle paths everywhere (inside and between cities); and everyone else does it, so you usually have company.

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Fricken 9 hours ago 6 replies      
Bicycles are an amazing transportation tool. Why are they so unpopular everywhere else?
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mc32 9 hours ago 3 replies      
Southeast Asia is heavy on bikes, and used to be more so than now, and they didn't have infrastructure or culture --it was need. Japan is heavy into bikes too, and there aren't dedicated lanes, not that I'd object, but it's not necessary to make it popular.

The one thing in Japan, where accidents aren't as regular as in southeast Asia, is that both bikes and cars obey traffic signals --I think that helps a lot. Also many, many streets ate narrow, so everyone slows down, and aside from bosozuku, you don't have people going 40km/h down streets.

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vdijkbas 9 hours ago 0 replies      
The nice thing about having many cyclists is that there's a high demand for cycle parking spaces which means you can run a good business guiding cyclists to available space. This is what we do at LumiGuide. See: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2015/06/09/bicycle-parkin...
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raidoxim 8 hours ago 3 replies      
I'm Dutch, but think we tend to underestimate the impact of the flatness of our country, and the size of other countries especially the States. I've cycled on my normal 7-gear bicycle (and that might be considered fancy) from Newcastle to Carlisle. Which is quite flat. I had to walk so much up hill as it was utterly impossible to climb 40 meters.

In the Netherlands quite a lot of people do live in a 50 km radius of their workplace. And 50 km would be a distance you'll travel by train or car. A daily comute of more then one hour in the Netherlands might be considered 'quite a while' but I guess this is different in the USA.

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djhworld 7 hours ago 2 replies      
The Netherlands had the opportunity to hit the reset switch in the 1970s with public support, that pushed through the changes in infrastructure and culture to foster a cycling centric society.

I'm wondering if that could ever happen today, I think the motoring/oil and road lobbyists are so well entrenched and organised in governments across the world, I highly doubt it.

I live in London and would never dream of cycling here, I'd be too nervous to do it.

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outside1234 10 hours ago 2 replies      
Amazing infrastructure for cycling (at least in Amsterdam).

Its also pan flat, so it is very practical to get anywhere by bike, in the way that San Francisco's hills makes it very impractical.

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mfoy_ 10 hours ago 0 replies      
I wish more cities would push for the infrastructure and culture required for this to work... in my city there are few bike lanes (and not all interconnected, so you have to switch between bike lane and normal traffic lanes) and both cyclists and motorists are equally ignorant of how to behave around each other. (At least in enough quantity to make it a problem)
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bane 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Having spent a little tiny bit of time in the Netherlands in both Amsterdam and The Hague, I suspect it's simply the combination of a flat landscape combined with comfortable weather for strenuous outdoor activity and most people living in pre-car cities which are sized about right for pedestrian activities which fed into a virtuous cycle that both recognized these things and then built legal and physical infrastructure to support them, which in turn made cycling easier and more convenient and so on.

It's very hard to conveniently cycle around many other cities due to not having one or more of the three foundations needed to kick off the cycle. Even in non-optimal cities, putting a cycling infrastructure in place doesn't necessarily result in lots of cyclists and doesn't necessarily determine cycle usage.

For example, the entire U.S. state of Florida might be an ideal biking location. It's flat after all, but most of the state was built to support cars, and the weather can be mighty hot. It also has the highest cyclist fatality rate in the U.S. with Orlando specifically often called out as one of the worst cities in the world to cycle in.

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jondubois 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I've been living and working in The Hague for about 3 months.

Here there are bike paths everywhere (pretty much alongside every road) and they're quite wide. Bikes have their own set of traffic lights.

If you manage to get your hands on a yellow public transport card (ov-chipkaart) then you can even rent a bike from the train station (some train stations have a separate section where they keep the bikes) and it only costs about 3 Euros per day.

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mbritton72 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I think the superiority of the Netherlands when it comes to cycling is pretty clear, and has been for a long time. What bothers me about this superiority is the perceived need to point it out on a fairly regular basis.

It's very easy to look at one's fortunate circumstances and wonder why others can't replicate them, so why the constant incredulousness around how the Netherlands stands as an example that should be followed?

Perhaps shrinking every nation to the size and geographical structure of the Netherlands would help. Other nations could also raze their suburbs and reconstruct into quaint little villages with great respect for cyclists.

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Radle 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Thanks for asking BBC.

Here are some answers:-The Netherlands are flat.-Bikes only use renewable energy.-Riding a bike is healthy.-There is a lot of supporting infrastructure.-Car drivers are well trained, so that they don't impose as much of a risk as car drivers in other countries.-In stark contrast to other countries especially but not limited to the United States. In the Netherlands everything is reachable by bike. For example but not limited to: Workplace, school, kindergarten, grocery shop, shopping district, cinema.

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Buetol 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I just want to add that the Netherlands can afford those nice infrastructures in part because it's a tax heaven since the 70s [1]

Also, please make the bay bridge have a bike path...personally I would just ban all the cars during the day but to each his solution.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_tax_in_the_Netherl...

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rollingpebbles 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I did a casual bike tour through hundreds of miles of Netherlands and Belgium. We wore helmets, obviously.

Not wearing a helmet is inconsisent with having many standards for reflectors and traffic planning. Although someone maybe slightly more careful, falling on a bicycle means a risk for head injuries. Why not take reasonable precautions, including instructing people that helmets do not add safety to anything besides head injuries? They're not a panacea, but protect against certain classes of injuries.

Anecdotally: When I was a kid, an obscured oily patch of road contributed to a fall to one side, head first, and slide for about 10 feet and the helmet I was wearing cracked instead of my skull. Road rash but didn't die or end up with traumatic brain injury.

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doug1001 3 hours ago 0 replies      
i was in Amsterdam seven years ago for work; the folks at the local shop i was there to do business with asked me to stay on an extra day and they would take me on a tour of Amsterdam.

we decided on a bike tour so we walked to a place where i could rent a bike. Of the 50 or 60 "top bar" (men's) bikes, every one was too big, even if they collapsed the seat post, the frames were still to big. (I'm 175 cm, or 5'9"?) I had to settle for a ladies' step-through.

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skdotdan 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Netherlands is flat. A friendly reminder to some politicians.
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leke 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Why is cycling so popular in the Netherlands?

I stopped cycling in the UK when they forced me to share the bike paths with cars. I then (eventually) got the fuck out of the UK.

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kps 10 hours ago 2 replies      
It's mild and flat.
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vondur 9 hours ago 3 replies      
Aren't cars really expensive to purchase in the Netherlands? Also, pushing biking at the expense of cars certainly helps. People in the US would go nuts if the Government starting reducing car lanes to install dedicated bike lanes.
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iRobbery 8 hours ago 0 replies      
i cant seem to find any references to the 'no need for a parking place, no need for gas, brings two people at least, police not that much of a hassle when you cycle drunk (and if you really drank too much, you cant cycle...), usually in a city 10x faster due to one-way traffic etc'

And plenty of (serious) accidents happen here too involving cyclist. Though indeed, car drivers are generally in fear of hitting one for legal and insurance reasons.

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joeyo 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Grade separated bike lanes.
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jshelly 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Barrier to entry is low

Easier to own/maintain/productively use a bike in a location like the Netherlands

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Theodores 10 hours ago 1 reply      
From having completed the London to Brighton bike ride at the weekend I have a good idea of what really makes the difference and that is having roads closed to motor vehicles. The London to Brighton route is closed to traffic and some of the rural stretches are as wide as a Dutch bike path. Up until now I have believed sharing the roads is how to go but now I know that cycling infrastructure is needed. It is the experience that matters and cycling away from the cars is a totally different thing to dodging traffic. It makes cycling more like walking in a park.

As an aside, I have thought about putting money down for an electric car but then I look at electric bicycles and finally settle for a normal bicycle. I hope more people question why the big box and get a two wheeler powered by a 5kg battery or their own oomph.

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jjawssd 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Because cars are so extremely expensive here in the Netherlands.

The fact that the bicycle paths here are amazing in most of the country is secondary.

Bicycles are at extreme risk of theft in major cities. There is nothing to romanticize about crappy bicycles. People do not ride garbage old bikes by choice, but out of necessity. People ride garbage on rusty wheels because they have been burned by theft multiple times.

Criminals with trucks in Germany and the Netherlands routinely roll up to train stations and steal dozens of bicycles at a time, take them to get resprayed in Poland, then resell them.

If you chained your bicycle to something in a way that isn't aesthetically pleasing, the government will steal your bicycle and you will have to retrieve it at a cost plus your expensive lock will be destroyed. This assuming you can find your bike.

Don't be fooled into thinking that this is bicycle utopia. You are only less likely to get killed by a car. This is a huge plus. But the rest of the story is bleak.

And now for your amusement...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ay3r5Kpio

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pjc50 9 hours ago 3 replies      
A couple of other factors; I don't think the Netherlands has ever had more than a tiny car or oil industry.
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