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Google buys Zagat googleblog.blogspot.com
66 points by rryan  32 minutes ago   7 comments top 6
zach 13 minutes ago 0 replies      
Good to see. Zagat's had problems finding a great business model in the digital world. They've gone through ads, memberships and endless partnerships. Zagat is still the prestige name in local reviews though. This is a great resource for Google's efforts in the local business market.

I love Zagat's core business idea ‚Ä" they were a significant inspiration for our LA Life neighborhood ratings. In fact, I've been looking at opportunities to do similar capsule reviews but creating them using existing reviews from other sites instead of survey data. I have to think this is where they're moving now as a part of Google, but it's not like I'm a Google VP.

This all seems to make sense. The Thomas Bros. map books were ubiquitous in California when I was growing up but have basically been replaced with Google Maps. Now the old burgundy Zagat guidebook is going this way. Glad to see Tim and Nina and their team will have a guiding hand in its replacement.

dmbass 13 minutes ago 1 reply      
Keep digging that moat, Google. As has been the case throughout history, the guy with the biggest moat wins, right? Oh wait, nope, that's not it. It's the guy who figures out how to bypass the moat who wins.

Google, please go back to innovating. People like you because you do new and exciting things, not because you have your hand in every business sector. Giant acquisitions like this and MoMo help nobody.

spicyj 12 minutes ago 0 replies      
I hope Google can maintain the quality of the Zagat ratings while simultaneously making them freely available ‚Ä" presumably this will be used to compete with Yelp, and I'm hopeful that it'll be useful.
alphadog 11 minutes ago 0 replies      
So was it a good idea for Yelp to walk away from Google's 700 million dollar offer?
pheaduch 13 minutes ago 0 replies      
Looks like they are pushing into Yelp territory.
lean 8 minutes ago 0 replies      
Zagat still exists? Isn't it a bunch of old reviews written by a handful of writers?
The Tricks Investors Use Against Founders theprivateequiteer.com
100 points by flmyngo  2 hours ago   14 comments top 8
T_S_ 0 minutes ago 0 replies      
Folks, this article is about private equity. 10 to 1 odds it doesn't apply to you. Not tips for dealing with VCs. Interesting if you like finance.
lacker 28 minutes ago 1 reply      
It's important to note that these things are common in the private equity world, not the angel investment or venture capital world. The VC world has totally different tricks, like 3x participating preferred, "independent" board members, collusion, and option pools.

Also, if the PE firm is using a 20% discount rate to evaluate the merits of vendor finance, they are likely fooling themselves more than they are fooling the founders.

jjm 29 minutes ago 0 replies      
These tricks are depressing and bolsters my attitude more toward a profitable yet slower growth start-up, doing without the sleazy investors...

By no means am I saying all are sleazy, but a slower growing startup will not attract the better of the lot.

smhinsey 1 hour ago 3 replies      
How do you find the right lawyer to vet your agreements, as a founder, to make sure something like this doesn't happen to you? Is a lawyer even the right person to look for?
hamidnazari 9 minutes ago 0 replies      
So, what's the best solution here? To pay $39 and buy "Private Equity Secrets Revealed" eBook or to hire a seasoned lawyer? And then, how much are you going to end up paying the lawyer? Are the lawyers going to pull the same tricks on you as well?
suking 41 minutes ago 0 replies      
Brad Feld's blog should be the first thing you read if you get a term sheet (or even better - if you start trying to raise $). He helps explain these things in plain english and what they look like in lawyer terms as well.
simon_weber 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Seems to me that an undergraduate Econ education (or equivilant) would go a long way in seeing through some of these. These look like questions I've seen on exams.
jpdoctor 1 hour ago 0 replies      
There are things that one learns only by going around the block a few times. This article is a good starter list.
Raspberry Pi demos $25 PC running 1080p video, promises CD-quality audio geek.com
21 points by ukdm  28 minutes ago   7 comments top 4
Jabbles 1 minute ago 0 replies      
This is fantastic, but "1080p" can have a dramatic range of qualities. If Inglorious Bastards just fits on the 2GB card and is over 2 hours long then the bitrate will be around 2Mbit/s, which is probably not very good. (cf. ~25Mbit/s for BluRay).

I should also point out that depending on the quality of the encoder, the bitrate is also a bad way of measuring quality. But I believe it is more useful than just saying "1080p".


0x12 11 minutes ago 1 reply      
This thing will sell like hotcakes if they can keep the pricepoint the way it is now.
ajays 18 minutes ago 1 reply      
Man, I'd love to get my hands on one. I have an Airport Express right now for streaming music from my Linux box to my home theater system, but it's just not working out.

All I need is a Linux-supporting little toy like this with audio out and WiFi (and which can decompress an MP3 in realtime).

Pahalial 7 minutes ago 1 reply      
1080p video with sound only recently improved from "FM radio" quality - what a strange combination.
Zagat got Googled zagat.com
21 points by AlexisTryon  28 minutes ago   3 comments top 2
jfruh 0 minutes ago 0 replies      
So is this Google's plan to compete with Yelp?
untog 19 minutes ago 1 reply      
This is a very interesting buy. Obviously Google are looking to get something more than crowdsourced opinions on Google Places, etc.- I can't say I blame them.

I wonder what this means for things like the Zagat book. I'm sure in the short term they'll continue, but the Google-y way would be to remove all the 'hard copy' stuff in time.

Mozilla Openness facts paulrouget.com
75 points by girishmony  3 hours ago   7 comments top 3
waitwhat 1 hour ago 0 replies      
This built-in firefox page was new to me... about:crashes
MatthewPhillips 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I find that my posts to their mailing lists don't go through half the time. I have no idea why. I guess my cordial comments fall through the cracks some times.
lovskogen 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Video shows tab in a browser as innovation from Mozilla. Opera anyone?
Most Pressed Keys and Programming Syntaxes mahdiyusuf.com
50 points by deniszgonjanin  2 hours ago   41 comments top 18
andylei 2 hours ago 3 replies      
it'd be interesting to see these heatmaps in some sort of normalized way. for example, 'e' is the most common letter in english, so its the most commonly used letter in these programming languages. it'd be very interesting to see, for example, this heatmap with the intensities divided by each letter's frequency of use in the English language, or across a large set of data including a lot of different programming languages
quellhorst 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I photoshopped this really quick for to compare ruby on Dvorak and Qwerty. https://img.skitch.com/20110908-q24qths9k4u6438wpd989qreci.j...
duck 6 minutes ago 0 replies      
Whitespace hasn't been taken into consideration (tabs and spaces) which would have been a cool thing to see.

I think if that was included this would be a lot more useful. Is there a reason it wasn't?

KirinDave 46 minutes ago 1 reply      
4 of my haskell files put into heatmap. One of them is an applicative-functor-style use of attoparsec, which tends to have more punctuation than normal haskell code. Even with the frequent use of :'s, $'s and ()'s, the alphanumeric keystrokes dominate the input.


You can compare this to the Lorum Ipsum text map and see its only slightly different: http://fayr.am/9yk6

I dunno what that means or what sort of value judgements it drives, but it's pretty different from the other heatmaps.

saintfiends 2 hours ago 1 reply      
This just graphically displays what I whine about most of the time. Why does my pinky has to do most the work? My pinky is pretty short and all the pinky movements are awkward. It considerably slows down my code typing speed.

I wonder If there would be another keyboard layout specially made for programmers. If you look at it you'll see that most of it has a similar pattern.

zyb09 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Clearly ObjC programmers are the only ones, who comment their code responsibly.
4ad 26 minutes ago 0 replies      
based on my visual observation, apart from lisp, python seems to skew furthest away from average. Its heatmap is much cooler, with less extremes. I wonder why.
5hoom 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Interesting to note the difference between C and C++ with regards to the '*' and '&' keys.

I know there is a lot of raw pointer and address usage in C, but I'm surprised at how little these keys show up in C++.

It's good to see that people are taking advantage of smart pointers ;)

(It's subtle though, so I could be reading too much into it).

saintfiends 12 minutes ago 0 replies      
In reality though enclosing glyphs will not be very well balanced. Opening brackets will be typed more than closing brackets.
robert_nsu 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I looked at the heatmaps, then looked at my keyboard. The keys with rubbed out labels nearly match his findings 100%. My 'N' isn't (only because the key is slightly larger than my other keys). Other than that, he is spot on.
Newky 1 hour ago 2 replies      
The javascript image shows limited to no usage on the $ key, Doesn't say a lot for jQuery usage.
quellhorst 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Would like to see a Dvorak version of this.
landhar 1 hour ago 0 replies      
The problem with this is that you can't tell the difference between numerals and symbols or even worse between two symbols in the same key (such as '_' and '-').
MicahWedemeyer 1 hour ago 0 replies      
The most pressed keys are ‚Ćė (or CTRL), C, and V.
dodo53 2 hours ago 0 replies      
vim and emacs would be fun too :oP
doki_pen 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I'd love to see a keyboard layout based on data like this.
Kwpolska 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Doesn't PHP use a colon at the end of every line? WTF?
The $700 Million Yogurt Startup forbes.com
16 points by Gaussian  54 minutes ago   2 comments top
stephenhuey 12 minutes ago 1 reply      
Maybe I should do something like that instead of software! What about the cheese market in the United States? Americans are branching out more and more from the limited kinds made here, so it seems like a worthwhile business venture might be to start making some of the European kinds we import.
EU votes to extend music copyright to 70 years bbc.co.uk
91 points by sambeau  4 hours ago   62 comments top 11
mhansen 3 hours ago 2 replies      
Why? To better incentivize people to make music in the 1940s and 50s?
benjoffe 3 hours ago 1 reply      
What would happen to music that is currently say 60 years old? That would have been copyright-free for 10 years and all of a sudden it is under copyright again?
tybris 21 minutes ago 0 replies      
Apart from whether or not this is fair, I really hate the EU taking any part in this. I know their authority is not well-defined, but in my view they are overreaching. I've flipped from pro-EU to anti-EU on my voting agenda.
acg 3 hours ago 1 reply      
An illustration of why some of the software industry wants to be more like the music industry and why the music industry doesn't want to be like the software industry.

Imagine if you were still making money off a program you wrote in 1960. Almost inconceivable in any mass market.

sylvinus 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I can't stop being amazed at how powerful those lobbies are.
epscylonb 1 hour ago 1 reply      
The pension argument is lame, if a performer wants a pension they should do what everybody else does, save for it.
waitwhat 4 hours ago 1 reply      
How long until patents never expire either?
markkat 2 hours ago 0 replies      
It would be interesting if for new laws, there were some sort of judicial opinion that could state to their best of their ability what the purpose of the law was.

i.e. Some legislators write a law, then pass it to a panel of judges, the judges attach a note indicating what they determined the purpose of the law was, and then the law went on for a vote. The opinion wouldn't have any legal effect, but it might provide for a bit more honesty.

iwwr 4 hours ago 3 replies      
What music from the 1940es is such a great moneymaker today that copyright holders can't bear to lose distribution privileges? Rarely are even 2 year old tunes really big sellers.
bediger 4 hours ago 3 replies      
Does the legal justification for copyright differ in the EU vs the USA? In the USA, the nominal basis is to give a creator a monopoly over reproduction for a time, to encourage that creator to make more.
e_proxus 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Just think about all the now 50-year old music that would become parts of mash-ups and remixes everywhere, creating a lot of new cool music. Now this just won't happen. :-(
Show HN: Bitcoinica - Advanced Bitcoin Trading Platform bitcoinica.com
81 points by zhoutong  5 hours ago   58 comments top 12
JoachimSchipper 4 hours ago 1 reply      
This seems far more advanced than usual for Bitcoin. Nice!

I have little insight into the security of your software, but I hope you have also considered the peculiarities of Bitcoin. To name just one thing that would be far harder in a normal market: open a Bitcoinica account, deposit $10 000, buy $50 000 in Bitcoin, sell BTC really expensively at Mt Gox as the system frantically tries to rebalance. Given the volatility of BTC, this may be profitable even if[1] you subsequently abandon the Bitcoinica account (which is likely to hold $-40 000 in dollars and less than $40 000 in BTC at un-spiked prices...)

[1] EDIT: Actually, it's only profitable if you can get the Bitcoinica account into the red. But given enough ability to move the market, that's definitely possible.

jonpaul 3 hours ago 2 replies      
The site looks great! However, what I'd really love to see in a platform is not advance trading features, but an easy way to convert USD to BTC and vice versa. I realize that this is a real challenge given the anonymity provided by the Bitcoin network and the only real instant transfer of money is through credit cards (which like to chargeback). If someone would solve this problem, you have a winner.
zhoutong 5 hours ago 5 replies      
Hi HN,

I'm the creator of Bitcoinica. I'm not so established here. To be honest, I'm only 17.

Please try it out. (I can pay $1 for you if you're not willing/able to deposit, email me at info@bitcoinica.com. :-D ) You can leave any suggestions, comments, bug reports and feature requests here. I'll look through every single comment. Thanks!

ByteMuse 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I like the site. A few notes:

- Running on Heroku is not really an asset security wise. I would put something more significant to ensure users that your site is secure.

- Make sure your site is secure; it will be attacked often and by professionals. Consider hiring an expert.

- The highlighting is kind of distracting and busy.

- You should be able to access some charts and see the going rate without signing up and loggin in.

- What is a Mt. Gox Redeemable code?

- There are laws in most countries that regulate banks in regards to leverage. Have you considered any of this?

- Margin trading is risky and some people will lose more than they bargained for, expect some repercussion.

Best of luck!

dclaysmith 3 hours ago 1 reply      
Question for @zhoutong ...

When did you start working on this project and have the negative events (guy losing 500K, MtGox hacking, etc) of the last few months affected your development and outlook?

Site looks great. Twitter bootstrap?

steve8918 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Very very cool! The idea is great and the interface looks slick!

However, what do you do in terms of protecting people's accounts? You say that the money is stored in your account? Gasp! How do we know you can't turn around and take all the money?

Also, what do you do to protect the accounts from a single rogue trader? If someone deposits money, margins up and loses a bunch of money, how do you protect the rest of the accounts?

arkitaip 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Considering all the security issues with the Bitcoin ecosystem and the resulting mistrust, I think you need to be very explicit about your security.
rb2k_ 2 hours ago 1 reply      
That's a great site and will help people that haven't got any trading experience to 'play' a little bit without having to do all sorts of things in the 'real' money market

A little feedback:
Tooltip texts for some of the interface elements would be nice. I had to think a bit before figuring out that "P/L ($)" is supposed to be profit/loss.

Joakal 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Looks pretty cool. I dislike the random pink highlighting, it's noisy. Avoid smiles, as cool as it is, you must look professional in business ;)

That said, maybe a security section would be great. eg encryption, security, independent audits, etc. Here's an example: http://help.github.com/security/

ianpurton 4 hours ago 1 reply      
It looks great. It's good to see more things appear in the Bitcoin space.

I would add a tour page, perhaps with screenshots so people can see how it works without signing up.

Estragon 3 hours ago 2 replies      
Spread seems high.
ArchD 3 hours ago 2 replies      
How do I logout without a logout button?
Microsoft continues to profit off Android bgr.com
19 points by zacharye  2 hours ago   9 comments top 2
anon1385 2 hours ago 3 replies      
Microsoft's revenue from royalties HTC is forced to pay on each Android phone it sells is estimated to be between three and five times the company's Windows Phone revenue, which could help explain why Microsoft has been so quiet to date when it comes to marketing its new mobile OS

I think the more important statistic is the profit Microsoft makes per Android device, compared with the profit per WindowPhone device. There are far more Android devices, so it's not surprising they make more from that "licensing" agreement (I'm loath to call it that when it's more like extortion). I find it hard to believe that MS would prefer (and make more money from) an Android dominated market compared to a WP7 dominated one, so I'm pretty skeptical of the idea that MS are holding back on WP7 because they don't mind Android dominating. I could be wrong though, maybe their Android licences really are that lucrative, and in that case God help us all because the software(-patent) industry is even more fucked than most of us ever imagined.

nextparadigms 2 hours ago 2 replies      
I think it's embarrassing for Microsoft to make more from bogus patents than from their own actual product. If I were them I wouldn't try to brag about it in the press. Heck, if I were them I probably wouldn't even do it in the first place.

This is why Microsoft have lost their way. Instead of focusing on their own products and innovation, they try to make money through other less honorable means. And sadly it runs deep into Microsoft's corporate culture.

Their actions as of late are making me reconsider whether I will want to use any of their new products in the future. They should realize that a lot of those Android users are also potential Microsoft customers for other products of theirs (desktop Windows, Xbox, Office, etc). They shouldn't try to piss them off with stuff like this, by extorting money from other of their favorite companies, especially when the way they do it is highly questionable.

Show HN: Ernie's, Click & Collect Groceries erniesgrocery.com
47 points by rsbrown  3 hours ago   53 comments top 16
edw519 2 hours ago 4 replies      
I love that you're going after a market so ripe for disruption, appreciate your coming to Hacker News for feedback/community, and I wish you the best.

But I think you have it backwards...

The real problem is not the time spent in the supermarket, it's getting there and back. You're addressing the wrong issue.

Many people want their groceries delivered for all kind of reasons:

  - They have small children they don't want to take with them.
- Weather.
- Traffic.
- Health issues, elderly, shut-ins, etc.
- They don't have a car.
- They work and can only go the same time as everyone else who works.

On the other hand, if they are going to the trouble of driving all the way to the supermarket, then they might as well go inside:

  - to examine and choose their own produce
- to examine and choose their own meat
- to examine and choose specials (which can be done well on-line)
- to handle and compare similar items
- to consult with the butcher/deli manager/etc.

The negative attitude of employees you cite in your video has never been an issue for me. The only real issue has been the check-out lines: there are never enough, the lines are too long, and they are expensive to operate.

If you are seeking large amounts of investment, why don't you just attack the real problem: getting out of the supermarket without waiting in line. All the necessary technology is already available. I just want to fill my cart and go home.

Please don't become another Webvan. Take that money and leverage current technology to eliminiate check-out lines in existing supermarkets forever. That's what people really want.

We don't need more infrastructure. We need better use of technology in existing infrastructure.

Bar codes dragged us that industry into the 20th century. RFID can drag it into the 21st.

retube 2 hours ago 4 replies      
This is an interesting concept. But I see a couple of issues:

- You need physical stores. These take a lot of money and expertise to set up and run. And to expand/scale in any meaningful way will take a LOT of money. Plus of course you've got the added expense of having to actually do the shopping on behalf of your customers (ie walk round your inventory and fill the basket). Kind of the opposite to the Ikea model. As Ryan Air have conclusively proved, people will put up with ANYTHING if it's cheap(er).

- Your stores are going to have to be as big as a supermarket to really be of use to people.

And on the competition side:

- What's the advantage over just ordering my goods online from a supermarket? I don't even need to go to the store then, they just get delivered to my front door. Or do supermarkets not do this in the US? IN the UK at any rate you can choose very specific delivery times as well.

And on the marketing side:

- 40 minutes in a grocery store? You can easily spend this much time online filling up your basket. Personally I've never felt that online ordering has saved me much time. The USP of online shopping is not time saving, it's "when" saving - I can do it during a quiet time at work for example. But with Ernies I still gotta go pick it up...

- 73 hours per year? Doesn't sound like much to me. And walking round the store is healthier than sitting in front of your PC :)

rsbrown 3 hours ago 0 replies      
We are actively seeking additional investors to help us open our first location. We have commitments from local investors that have us 25% towards our fundraising goal. I have yet to seriously pitch any investors outside the mid-south, which is one of my reasons for posting here on HN. I would dearly love to give my brief investor pitch to anyone seriously interested in the concept.

The consumer value proposition is covered in the video linked above. The business value prop boils down to this: double-digit net margins. Seriously.

I can be reached at scott@erniesgrocery.com

rickdale 7 minutes ago 0 replies      
This is a good concept for poorer areas in the United States. Delivery services are good in New York, but where I am from, the pizza delivery guy gets killed for $10(google it).
Also, in poorer areas of the country people have a lot of kids. When I go grocery shopping I see probably 10-20 young girls with multiple kids. I would be happier if they used an Ernies like service so that I can grocery shop in peace. Also it seems like it would nice for them to not have to leave the car and just get a bunch of groceries. Not sure I would use this though.

Now to make this really profitable, you need to be able to accept food stamps and have a slick mobile application. Everyone has a smart phone. Some of my friends have no computer, but use their phone for the internet. A handful of those friends are on government entitlement programs. It seems like this could be a nice thing to offer them especially if you got deals on groceries.

wccrawford 3 hours ago 3 replies      
I hope you manage to run with this. I'm sick of wasting so much time in the grocery store and I've been willing to pay to avoid it for a while now. Of course, there are some requirements:

Excellent interface. I have to be able to browse your selection as easily as I can browse in a store. This means I can find things I didn't intend to find. (That's good for you and me, both.)

Fast service at the curb. There's no point in saving the time inside the store if I just waste it sitting in the parking lot.

Reliable time estimates. (Actually, this dove-tails with the last one, doesn't it?)

Selection. I know you said you have selection, but I've yet to find 2 stores that had the same selection. I'm not terribly set on brands, but it does matter sometimes.

Stock. As in, things had better be in stock. Nothing makes me angrier than when the store is out of something I need. Yes, not even long lines.

Deli/Bakery/etc. When you've just dealt with a shopping trip, you don't feel like cooking that night. Bringing home something delicious and/or hot is a must.

And you should seriously consider delivery, and not just curb-side. I know it's a logistical nightmare, but it eliminates 2 of the things above quite neatly.

I also love the possibilities for the store itself. Because the customer never enters the store, all the standard storefront stuff is eliminated. You can use portable tablet registers to let the customer pay, and standard shopping carts are eliminated. You can use whatever is most efficient, or even invent something to make it better. And you can start off with people plucking things from shelves, but it may become economical to have robots doing that. (I believe Amazon does that, but they're pretty big and centralized.)

In short, do it right and you'll make me (and a lot of other people) really happy.

oldgregg 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I like the concept. My wife used to work for plumgood food in nashville and the infrastructure build out seemed really expensive... seems like you may be able to avoid that with this if you partner with a local grocery store so you don't have to manage inventory. I would start there and put all my focus on creating a killer shopping experience online-- there are a lot of intangibles of just cruising through a grocery store that have to be rethought when you take it online. Best of luck!
yock 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I think this works well for processed foods and non-perishible items, but I see a real problem with meat and produce.

Shoppers are accustomed to doing their own quality control when shopping for fresh items. In a real grocery store it takes real effort to choose the best meat and produce from what's available, and that decision might just be to not purchase something. Do you intend to provide this as part of your service? If so, what controls will you have in place to guarantee quality?

nihilocrat 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Here in Montreal (perhaps also in other large cities) I can order groceries online from any of the major supermarkets and have them delivered to me (mind you, I don't have a car) for a reasonable minimum order value and a mere $2-3 extra. Maybe you are intentionally not targetting these cities, otherwise the idea is not really new at all.

You want to see a grumpy clerk? Go to Switzerland and forget to put the little sticker on your bags of produce. Damn.

eggbrain 2 hours ago 2 replies      
I'll be honest, I'm skeptical. And I'm sure investors are skeptical too after spectacular failures like WebVan and Kozmo.

Sure these sites were different than what you are trying to accomplish (Online --> Deliver to your door vs Online-->Pickup at local store), but they still have similar problems. Groceries operate at razor-thin margins, and being a warehouse of food will only take you so far (just ask WebVan). How do you know if your "Ernies" associate will pick a ripe apple vs a bruised one? How can Ernies be "friendly" if all the interaction is ordering online/pickup at the store?

The biggest question for me is, what is to stop the competition from implementing this if it sees initial success? Order online --> Pick up at store already exists for many types of businesses, if Meijer or Publix or Acme Grocery co sees success, they'll probably add this to their options, at a much easier cost than you will (as they will already have retail stores). What competitive advantage can you use that can fight against this?

bentoner 2 hours ago 1 reply      
peteretep 2 hours ago 2 replies      
I'm at work, and so don't really want to watch the video, so I'm going to ask directly:

What does this give me over Ocado (or their many many many competitors - I mean, Asda deliver?!), who I order from, and then they deliver? This sounds like it just adds an extra step of my having to show up, rather than just agreeing that I'll be sat at home in my PJs watching Jeremy Kyle at the right time...

brianbreslin 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Here in Miami we have these drive through convenience stores called Farm Stores. They just recently rolled out FarmStores.com which lets you order online, then schedule a pickup, and roll through and get your stuff. Very convenient, the $5 service charge I could do without, but still convenient.

The concept of only having a limited set of distribution/pickup points makes a ton of sense, much cheaper than home delivery. You are effectively offloading 2/3 of the delivery cost to the customer themselves.

Things I think this could miss out on:
- Impulse shopping
- higher margin items added
- psychological benefits of grocery experience (ooh that'd be tasty, let me buy that).

fascinating marketplace to be in IMO. I'd pay not to have to wait 10 minutes in the deli counter for some sliced turkey.

colinsidoti 2 hours ago 0 replies      
It's a location thing. A number of stores have tried this by me, but only one has really pulled it off. People often use it for their big family orders that are well upwards of $100. In general, the place also has better prices than other stores. There are repeat customers, but shopping online certainly doesn't account for the majority of their grocery store runs. That said, the place constantly has a line of cars with huge orders being loaded into their trunks. Never small orders.

Make sure you're in an area that's largely populated by families, and make sure your prices are already good.

cliftonmckinney 2 hours ago 0 replies      
You might consider hitting up Angel List if you haven't done so already. If you're trying to raise for that first store - "proof of concept" before you go after more funds - it seems that might be a good avenue to raise those funds. Good luck to you!

Edit: it will probably help a lot that you've already got a portion committed, btw.

rnernento 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I like it. One think to take into consideration is people's relationship with food. It's going to be a hard sell for some people to buy produce or meat sight unseen when selection can have a huge effect on quality.

That being said I think you could build a really interesting interface. Also tremendous overhead savings, no cashiers, baggers, carts, storefront. Basically just a refrigerated warehouse and limited staff.


paraschopra 2 hours ago 0 replies      
This is one of the ideas that make you kick yourself and say _why did I not think of it first?_

Good luck to you and I hope it succeeds!

Maxwell, A 64 FPGA Supercomputer (pdf) psu.edu
26 points by 0x12  3 hours ago   10 comments top 6
sophacles 23 minutes ago 0 replies      
This is pretty cool! It's nice to see some good work being done on this general reconfigurable stuff.

For an interesting but only tangentially related product, I've been playing with one of these http://rtds.com/index/index.html this week. It's an FPGA driven simulator specialized for power grid stuff. It is fast and quite fun. It allows general programming within the domain, but not true general purpose stuff. I'm sure similar technologies exist for other fields and I was thinking "Someone has to be generalizing this right?". It's nice to see that thought being done here.

Fun fact for startup people: the company is tiny headcount wise but has quite a large market penetration -- it's a good testament to what a passionate, dedicated and highly skilled team can do when they get to it.

alain94040 28 minutes ago 0 replies      
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but next to my desk is a machine about 10 times more powerful than what this paper describes.

The main issues with the setup in the paper: latency between nodes. Gigabit Ethernet is just not good for latency. To nitpick some more, Virtex-4 is getting old.

mmorey 1 hour ago 0 replies      
If you are into high performance reconfigurable computing you might be interested in some of the work being done by the CHREC group. Here is a list of there recent papers:
jedbrown 3 hours ago 1 reply      
Wall clock time alone isn't such a useful metric to compare CPU vs. FPGA. It would be more meaningful to normalize by machine cost (initial investment and operating costs). (Software development/non-portability is a separate discussion.)
4ad 3 hours ago 2 replies      
Warning, PDF link.
Why Privacy Policies Suck iubenda.com
13 points by Facens  2 hours ago   12 comments top 5
dcosson 3 minutes ago 0 replies      
Looked at facebook just now, and sure enough there in the footer (if you're fast enough to click on it before the infinite scroll kicks in) they have this http://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy, which reaffirms my suspicion that using only what the author suggests probably isn't quite as safe legally.

That said, I definitely agree that putting a simpler layer on top of it so non-lawyers can get the gist of your policy quickly is a great idea - now item 1,000,001 on my startup's to-do list!

wisty 55 minutes ago 1 reply      
The article is assuming that the ToS and privacy statement is meant to be informative. It's not.

If you give people a good overview of what you are doing with their data, a significant portion will get pissed off. If you bore them with legalese, 99.9% of them will just sign, rather than wade through the terms.

It's broken, but it's broken by design.

thwarted 35 minutes ago 1 reply      
Does the machine readable P3P format have any use still?
dcaylor 1 hour ago 2 replies      
As long as we have a sue-happy society, companies will use privacy policies to limit liability. That means they will continue to be documents with more text than most of us are likely to read. Icons and diagrams won't work without the text behind them. However, I do agree that just because a document has legal significance does not mean it needs to be full of legalese. We tried to keep our privacy policy as short and light as possible and write it in plain language. http://nodeping.com/PrivacyPolicy
fractalcat 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Yes. Just yes.

I recently wrote a privacy policy for my new startup; I think it complies with all but two of those guidelines (lightbox and standardised). Any feedback would be appreciated: https://theescortcompanion.com/privacy/

The Second Power of SQL Indexing use-the-index-luke.com
25 points by fatalmind  3 hours ago   discuss
The three secrets of business analytics (no rocket science here) 37signals.com
6 points by baha_man  52 minutes ago   discuss
Kernel module for advanced rickrolling replaces open() call github.com
143 points by wink  8 hours ago   49 comments top 6
exDM69 6 hours ago 0 replies      
SECURITY WARNING: do not use this module! Scroll down for more information in the discussion. This module disables a major part of kernel memory protection and trusts user provided file names to be valid. This makes it possible for an UNPRIVILEGED USER to do bad things.

These problems are, of course, fixable someone may fix it.

Bonus points for whoever fixes the problems and submits a pull request. All the info you need is in this discussion thread.

(edit: I can already see some pull requests on this)

p4bl0 8 hours ago 2 replies      
This is great, for the fun of course, but also and mainly because it is a simple example of a working kernel module, which is not something one can see very often.
jconnop 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I'll be saving this for April 1, 2012 :)
DrCatbox 8 hours ago 3 replies      
Why not just write a FUSE module?
vedantk 8 hours ago 0 replies      
KonradKlause 8 hours ago 4 replies      
p = (char *)(path + strlen(path) - 4);

This is a very bad idea as path is user-supplied and has to be treated as malicious.
An attacker can omit the string-terminator...

Obituary for Michael Stern Hart, Project Gutenberg Founder gutenberg.org
281 points by hornokplease  16 hours ago   28 comments top 16
bane 15 hours ago 2 replies      
Really, sad. But his legacy lives on in one of the finest projects on the internet. It's provided me and my family with countless hours of enjoyment and immensely lowered the cost of ownership of my Kindle.

Imagine my wonderful surprise when I found not just one, but an entire library of Oz and Edgar Rice Burroughs novels that I quickly disseminated to all of the youngsters in my extended family ... then watched them spend hours entertained by these century old tails of fantasy and adventure.

No project has proven more firmly that our modern endless extensions to copyright is hopelessly wrong headed.

spanktheuser 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Michael Hart was a fantastic guy to know back in the early 90s as the Internet was transforming from a research network into a popular phenomenon. He'd foreseen this eventuality in the late 70s and made Project Gutenberg in part so it would be there when the world needed it. I'll always remember Michael rollerblading through Champaign-Urbana in his trademark ruby spandex singlet. And his incredible ability to scrounge computer parts. He once invited me to drive through the night to score an obsolete supercomputer that was allegedly sitting beside a dumpster at the University of Minnesota. He wanted to get to those hard drives before the rain did. Sadly, I turned him down - I had a first date that night. I don't remember her name. But I'll always remember Michael. And miss him.
warwick 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Five years ago I was at HOPE Number Six and Michael Hart was the Saturday keynote speaker, giving a talk on his work at Project Gutenberg.  I didn't know very much about it, but I recognized the name.  There were Project Gutenberg discs floating around the conference so I snagged one and had a look.

I don't really remember anything specific from the talk, but I remember it was inspiring.  It was called "Using eBooks to Break Down the Bars of Ignorance and Illiteracy".  There's audio of the talk online, and I think I need to hear it again.

The next day was the last day of the conference, and as was usual Jello Biafra was the getting far less attention than the other keynote speakers.  They'd closed off the back part of the main hall, a hall which had been filled to capacity and then some for Michael, and some of us were tossing around beach balls.  I pounded one particularly hard and hit some guy in the back of the head with it.  When he turned around I recognized Michael.  I don't think he was too happy with me in that moment.

With the eloquence that only a twenty year old can muster, I stuck my hand out and said "I love your work.  It's fucking absurd."  That's about the highest compliment I can give a person, and I'm glad to see that Shaw quote in the obituary.  It says what I was awkwardly trying to express.

The tension drained out of the situation, and he shook my hand before turning back to his companion and returning to his conversation.  I went back to playing with beach balls.

I admire what Michael built, and I admire how he did it.  Project Gutenberg was slow but steady, and will continue past his death.  I can only aspire to leaving that kind of a legacy.

Goodbye Michael.  I loved your work.  It's fucking absurd.

bootload 14 hours ago 0 replies      
"Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people."

I really like this quote. I discovered Gutenberg looking for something to read on the train pre-ebooks days. I really got sick of having to take books so I wanted a way to get books onto my PalmIII. [0] Searching around for anything in text format I stumbled onto Gutenberg. How do you get the text into the palm in a readable format? Using open source software like Plkr. [1] If you ran Linux the morning routine would go something like this:

* sync PC with Palm ~ http://flic.kr/p/mhmuK

* manually select Gutenburg novels to read & add to plkr.

* plkr client would crawl various web sites I read, compress the pages & sync with the pilot.

* read on the train.

I'd make this morning/evening habit. I benefited from Harts vision for many years.

    "My father read an assortment of these made 
available to him by Cambridge University in
England for several months in a glass room
constructed for the purpose. To the best
of my knowledge he read ALL those available.
. .in great detail. . .and determined from
the various changes, that Shakespeare most
likely did not write in nearly as many of
a variety of errors we credit him for, even
though he was in/famous for signing his name
with several different spellings." [2]

Hart was certainly well read. You can open random classics like Macbeth & find his comments like this one in the forward of Macbeth.

[0] 2005OCT151730, Palm III, diary in use ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/52909493/in/set-720575...

[1] "An Open Source Success Story: A History of Plucker" ~ http://www.plkr.org/about

[2] Project Gutenberg, "The Tragedie of Macbeth" by William Shakespeare, July, 2000.

abalashov 15 hours ago 3 replies      
I suppose many would consider this both indecorous and perverse, but I really am curious about the cause of death in cases such as these. It is usually omitted in cases of suicide or some particularly nuanced, possibly embarrassing disease.

I don't care about specifics, I am just disturbed when all reports tiptoe around the cause of death as if it just "spontaneously" happened to a man who was merely 64.

It sounds from some of his recent public writings like he may have been struggling with a terminal disease, but not being an associate of his, I have no way of knowing that.

pragmatic 14 hours ago 1 reply      
Good interview:

(Link at the end to a pdf with interview).

I was curious about how he funded this project.

Excerpt from interview:
RP: Do you get a salary from the Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation,
which was founded, I believe, in 2000?
MH: No. We don't attract enough funding for that.
RP: So what do you live on today?
MH: It's been two years since my last pay check, but if you save all your salary when
you do get one, $100,000 will go 10 years with no salary, at $10,000 a year.

Interesting that he lived so cheaply in order to work on something he loved.

ryanwaggoner 1 hour ago 0 replies      
The George Bernard Shaw quote is wrong. The actual quote is:

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

Source: http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/26107/pg26107.html

petercooper 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Fancy adding something like "Founder of Project Gutenberg" to the title here? Just think it'd catch on better, and he's definitely a guy worth remembering :-)

Update: Eh, that'll do ;-)

mechanical_fish 15 hours ago 0 replies      
One thing about eBooks that most people haven't thought much is that eBooks are the very first thing that we're all able to have as much as we want other than air.

He sure was right about that. It's one of the really big ideas, the kind that is going to take several more decades to really sink in.

wyclif 15 hours ago 2 replies      
This is 403ing now, which is a shame because I've been using Project Gutenberg since like forever and really wanted to read this. Can anybody copypasta?
russellallen 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Project Gutenberg is a vision of what the future could be if we choose. RIP Michael, you done good.
sspencer 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I saw a wonderful talk at HOPE 6 concerning Project Gutenberg, and can only assume it was Michael Hart speaking. It made me donate on the spot.

As a staunch supporter of paper books I don't often read eBooks, but I can completely understand and appreciate what an immense resource they are to those less fortunate (and picky about their medium!) than I am. Rest in Peace, Mr. Hart. Your legacy will live for years and years to come.

danieldk 9 hours ago 0 replies      
I remember going to a dual-talk in Amsterdam of Michael Hart and Richard Stallman. I went to see Stallman, I returned energized by Hart's vision. He was a convincing visionary person that dedicated is life to the good of all people.

The world needs more Michael Stern Harts.

steve8918 14 hours ago 1 reply      
I really admire people who strongly believe in something and dedicate their lives to it. I wish I were made of the same stuff.
beerglass 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Am I the only one who is getting 403 forbidden error on the link?
neanderdog 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Bless you good Sir.
The 9/11 Tapes (Great Presentation of Audio Material) nytimes.com
38 points by ugh  2 hours ago   4 comments top 3
ugh 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I submit this not because of the story it tells (which, while breaking my heart, is clearly off-topic for Hacker News) but for the presentation.

The New York Times does a terrific job when it comes to presenting information. They could have just embedded a standard audio player but they did not. They present the audio in a way that makes it accessible even if you have little time. It's possible to skip around effortlessly and you never lose sight of the big picture. They are also not shy to use new web technologies when possible. This particular page works on my iPad without a hitch.

This is one of many examples where the New York Times really shows that they are able to find new and better ways of presenting information.

mattdeboard 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I am so overloaded with 9/11 coverage I don't even want to click it. Really looking forward to Monday, 9/12, so I can go back to the old life, where I am only reminded of the impact of 9/11 two or three times a week, instead of two or three times a day.
huhtenberg 22 minutes ago 0 replies      
Not to flame, but a genuine question - so was there a plane that hit Pentagon? All released photos were odd and ambiguous at best.
If this then that ifttt.com
509 points by armandososa  22 hours ago   135 comments top 60
gxs 19 hours ago 3 replies      
This is the type of service that really brings the benefit of computing to the masses. Sure, everyone consumes on the internet, but something like this lets everyone experience the joy programmers feel when they make a computer do what they want.
mcritz 17 hours ago 5 replies      
I've been using ifttt to:

* Scour Craigslist for an apartment in San Francisco

* Put indeed.com job searches for "UI Design San Francisco" into Evernote

* Monitor airline fares for the cheapest time to buy a one-way ticket from BOS to SFO

* Text me when the temperature in zip code 94103 rises above 68 to remind myself to get out and enjoy my new city.

THANKS IFTTT! I couldn't have done it without you!

skymt 17 hours ago 2 replies      
A tip for Kindle owners: you can make an ifttt pipeline that sends RSS entries to Instapaper. Then on Instapaper's end, set up automated Kindle delivery. Presto, new posts from your favorite bloggers are now on your Kindle, entirely automatically.
maxxxxx 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Nice site. Some thoughts:
- The fonts are way too big. On my 13 inch screen it feels as if the site is constantly screaming at me.
- How does the phone trigger work? I suppose it gets triggered when a call comes in. Do you port the number or how else would you know that a phone call comes in?
ColinWright 20 hours ago 7 replies      
Anyone interested in this may care to read the discussion from 3 months ago:


To be honest, I still have a hard time figuring out how, where or why I would ever use this. Maybe I'm just too old, too disconnected, or too stupid to understand what it's all about, but in short, I just don't.

I'd love a single, simple, concrete example of a relevant problem this solves.

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt it's very cool and very clever. I just really don't get it.

mef 18 hours ago 1 reply      
I've been using this for a few months now, and though my usage is probably atypical, here's what I use it for:

- as I abandoned RSS readers a long time ago, new posts on my _very favorite_ (read: top 5) blogs send me a notification email with a link to the post

- new tweets by my _very favorite_ (read: top 3) twitter accounts get SMS'd to me

Pretty limited usage so far I'll admit, but I'm excited to see what new inputs and outputs they come up with in the future.

arturadib 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Nice accessible intro, but it'd be nicer if there was a summary of supported "this"s and "that"s - I am generally reluctant to sign up for services unless I know pretty well what's in it for me.

How about a table of supported events and actions, or at least a number of different examples?

sbierwagen 19 hours ago 3 replies      

  <div id='title'>
<h1><a class='logo_box_nerd_shit' href='/' title='Dashboard'>
<div id='even_nerdier_shit'></div>
</a>About ifttt


Also, when did chrome stop antialiasing text? If I somehow checked a box labeled "make text look worse", then someone please enlighten me. http://bbot.org/etc/aliasing.png

EDIT: Ha ha, Windows, you card, always with the case-insensitive file systems. Got me again! Link should work now.

nexneo 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Yahoo pipes renamed and working this time.
cgranier 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm using IFTTT to automate a couple of things in my information workflow:

1. To allow me to feed interesting articles from my iPad into BufferApp so I can post them automatically to Twitter throughout the day:


I go through Zite, Flipboard and Hacker News every morning and queue up all the interesting articles. Buffer posts them for me at set times throughout the day. I don't have to be at my computer to tweet and I don't flood my followers early in the morning.

2. To automatically post my Instagram photos to my Google+ account:



revorad 19 hours ago 0 replies      
The original blog post explaining how they came up with the idea is very interesting - http://blog.ifttt.com/post/2316021241/ifttt-the-beginning
colanderman 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Why does the "about" URL reference profanity?

Why did the page's source contain profanity, as pointed out by another poster (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2971423)? (The profanity has since been removed.)

If your target audience is non-programmers, then make the URL something I can e-mail my mom without having to answer awkward questions.

wgx 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I've been using this for about 6 months in beta and I really like it - I wrote a mini-review on my blog back in March: http://willgrant.org/if-this-then-that/
linden 19 hours ago 0 replies      
Thanks for the feedback, agree that the type may be a tad too big, going for something a little different. Will see what we can do about adding more Weather triggers, just scratching the surface!
FreshCode 1 hour ago 0 replies      
This is awesome! And it texted to my South African number! Which SMS gateway are you using?
snprbob86 8 hours ago 1 reply      
Just tried it out: this is awesome. Love the UX!

One major nitpick: Please make my browser's back button work between steps when creating a task!

peteysd 19 hours ago 0 replies      
This is one of those "why didn't I think of that?" ideas that will probably become huge. Nicely done!
JayNeely 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Well-explained service.

http://tarpipe.com/ is a similar tool that's been around for a while; I think the HN crowd will like the fine-grain detail of it more.

And it works with a much larger number of services.

jtwb 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Using (input channel, output channel, title) to summarize Recipes makes code search a breeze.

Traditionally, code search is done via fulltext indexing of verbose textual function descriptions. ifttt succeeds in using a channel-signature model, not unlike Hoogle's type-signature search, to provide code search without asking authors to write any description at all. Very nice!


paisible 2 hours ago 0 replies      
great service - already can see so many possibilities. One problem I ran into : the craigslist search result URL I'm trying isn't being recognized http://montreal.fr.craigslist.ca/muc/
Add a bug reporting feature !
djtumolo 13 hours ago 0 replies      
I use it to fetch my starred links in twitter over to instapaper. On my walk to the subway, I plow through a bunch of twitter, star what I like, and read the links underground.
jmjerlecki 19 hours ago 0 replies      
I personally like the large font. It caught my eye right away. I can understand the "legally blind" comments, but I think its unique.
MartinCron 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Brilliant. It reminds me of MIT's Scratch language, only for useful stuff instead of moving around cartoon cats.

Specifically: the way the UI swipes things away when you make selections feels very fresh. I might grow to hate it, but I enjoy it today.

shasta 15 hours ago 3 replies      
Not to accuse anyone of astroturfing, but the comments on this link read like what you'd hear on a late night infomercial.
chetan51 19 hours ago 0 replies      
Wow, I was thinking of making an entire app for this, but it's just a simple recipe in ifttt!


lowglow 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Really clean and simple design and implementation. Something everyone should aspire towards. I love how intuitive it was to set-up a recipe and make my services work together and for me. Great job!
jackie_singh 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Impressed! The only issue I have is with the lack of information about their real-world presence. Who are Linden, Jesse, and Alexander? Privacy policies alone don't exactly solve the issue of instilling trust.
SingAlong 12 hours ago 0 replies      
Really cool service. I signed up for Instapaper yesterday for the sole reason that they send read-it-later stuff to Kindle. So I created an ifttt to send my Pinboard bookmarks tagged "instapaper" to Instapaper. So I can now get only articles that I choose on my Kindle :) Sw33t

The only thing I'm worried about is giving away so many passwords to one service. How are these stored?

imrehg 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Oh boy, this is addictive :) Almost like a game of Alchemy - let's combine these services, what can we have?

You are doing great, guys, will definitely spread the world and come up with more tasks!

Finbarr 17 hours ago 1 reply      
Really like this - huge range of possible applications.

One question though: what, if anything, does ifttt do to detect/prevent infinite loops? If I create a task to copy new photos added to flickr to instragram, and another task to copy new photos added to instagram to flickr, what happens?

rexreed 16 hours ago 0 replies      
This is a cool service - maybe I need to RTFM or the comments, but is there an API by which we can add / modify / delete tasks? Is there a way that third parties can use / embed this in their own apps?
angrisha 4 hours ago 0 replies      
This is amazing! I was lamenting the loss of my smartphone recently <ah..the eternal need to stay connected!> Been using an old nokia phone. Made a simple gmail to sms channel using ifttt. Loving it.
ChuckMcM 17 hours ago 1 reply      
Nice tool. The Enterprise version can be targeted to operations types, you know "if <new employee> then <run through checklist>" "if <mail errors> then <shoot exchange server in the head>" kinds of things :-)
thedjpetersen 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I wanted to build a framework similar to this.


Hopefully I will get a weekend and I will have the opportunity to make it a little bit more complete.

artursapek 16 hours ago 1 reply      
Does this support nested if-then statements, or multiple criteria? With the UI the "wtf" page demonstrates, it seems like this could easily be designed to work as a graphical version of programming.
maxwin 18 hours ago 0 replies      
This is very innovative. It really inspires me and pushes me to imagine what other automation/computing one can bring to the masses. I wish you good luck and success.
russ 11 hours ago 0 replies      
This makes me think of 'Daemon' by Daniel Suarez.
nicksergeant 16 hours ago 1 reply      
I set up a rule a while back to let me know when the temp dips below 60 degrees, and I've been shocked at how useful that is. Can't wait to continue using the service more.

It's one of those things where you don't really know how useful it is until you see / hear of some examples and start using it yourself.

mkramlich 18 hours ago 0 replies      
cool idea. great landing page text/graphics. simple. intuitive. good sign from my perspective whenever something makes me slap my forehead and wish I had done it. :)
jorisw 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I love it. Both the idea and the simplicity of it.

Could you tell us something about the tech stack? Just curious.

dongsheng 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I really like the idea of ifttt, it's like the pipeline for web, the problem of this service is the latency is unbearable. I created a few tasks to notify me the rss updates, it may takes more than 30 mins to send me the notification through jabber, I use notify.me as well, it always comes first.
nc 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Wow, love love love this idea. It's like Automator for the Mac for the web, but on steriods. Perfect for people using well known apps but for a specific repeatable purpose.
mikeocool 17 hours ago 0 replies      
This site is super great, been using for a little bit to automatically add anything I tag 'read' on delicious to my instapaper queue.

It would be awesome if there was an output to GET/POST to an arbitrary URL. Although, I suppose it sort of opens up a bigger issue, as to make it really useful for integrating with a lot of other arbitrary APIs, you'd probably need a way to support oauth from arbitrary services as well.

brendino 18 hours ago 0 replies      
What an incredible idea! This can become even more valuable if ifttt can open its platform to enable outside developers to create and distribute custom action blocks and triggers for end users (like an app store of ifttt triggers and action blocks).

Furthermore, I can see this transitioning into "phsyical" applications (think "The Internet of Things"). For example, OnStar can connect car sensors to send a text message when your car leaves your garage.

andrewflnr 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Will shorter polling periods be a premium feature? It seems like 15 minutes might not be sufficient for some purposes.
pitchups 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Can it be used to scan a web page and send you an alert if the page has changed?
postscapes1 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I haven't looked at the technical side of this yet, but any thoughts on this being extended to physical object interaction? (see: tweetjects, http://www.instructables.com/contest/makeittweet, Web of Things, etc)
pkamb 19 hours ago 1 reply      
What's with the domain name? I see you own ifthisthenthat.com as well, just curious why you choose the abbreviation.
tomlin 13 hours ago 0 replies      
This is one of the most powerful tools I've ever seen.
kr1shna 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Very nice, just created my first service. It's like pipes for the everyday man!
hypnotist 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Any technical details about how backend is implemented?
mainevent 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I get a 404 when trying to authorize Evernote.
userhasaname 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Why should I trust his website with my API keys? This is not addressed.
mohsen 11 hours ago 0 replies      
is there any plan on adding grooveshark to the list?
hasantayyar 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I prefer "Yahoo pipes". More professional.
bglbrg 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I was excited to set up SMS notification for lots of things, but it took ifttt 26 minutes to notify me of an email. Hmmm. Any particular reason for the latency?
robinhowlett 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Really nice! Reminds me of Apache Camel components + Content Based Router EIP as a service.
xycombinator 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Can the Action for a Trigger be a different Trigger?
utexaspunk 20 hours ago 2 replies      
Really cool idea, and nice site design except for one glaring thing- the size of everything! What the hell!? Is this designed for the legally blind? There isn't even an option in the settings to make things normal-sized... Fix it!
jcromartie 19 hours ago 0 replies      
It's turing complete!
Zero to Profitable - LiberWriter Lessons Learned dedasys.com
3 points by davidw  7 minutes ago   discuss
ForthOS - standalone operating system written in Forth forthos.org
54 points by zephyrfalcon  7 hours ago   13 comments top 7
RodgerTheGreat 2 hours ago 0 replies      
It's an absolute breeze to boot from the install ISO via QEMU. It boots pretty much instantaneously, and after that you just need to know Forth:


Incidentally, I really like this Forth's version of a locals mechanism: http://www.forthos.org/lvars.html

amatus 1 hour ago 0 replies      
A previous operating system by Andy Valencia is VSTa http://www.vsta.org:8080/. This has been forked and is called FMI/OS http://www.code-unatio.net/wiki/fmios/.
lloeki 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Apparently the thing is completely bootstrapped and self-hosting. This, to me is one of the most impressive features.
epo 5 hours ago 0 replies      
This is old, the iso was created in '04 and the newsgroup hasn't had a posting since '06. Is it still active?
idanb 5 hours ago 1 reply      
Congrats, this is really impressive. Hopefully I'll have some free time in the next few months to try it out. Never used Forth before, so I might give it a bit of a go sometime soon. Any good further resources other than the wiki page?
gstamp 5 hours ago 4 replies      
Why is it so many forth websites look so... plain?
sgt 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Great work...
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