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Small startup [YC reject] hits Google paydirt theglobeandmail.com
21 points by miraj 32 minutes ago   2 comments top 2
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5 points by cperciva 5 minutes ago 0 replies      
To quote an oft-repeated request from PG: Don't put 'YC reject' in your submission titles. You might have been not accepted, but that's quite different from being rejected -- it's a non-judgement rather than a judgement -- and it adds unnecessary noise.
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2 points by vaksel 3 minutes ago 0 replies      
no real point in calling it a YC reject, since they were rejected for a completely different idea
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Donate few bucks to Wikipedia (We're all using it on a daily basis, aren't we?) wikimediafoundation.org
116 points by tzury 4 hours ago   68 comments top 13
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36 points by petercooper 3 hours ago 1 reply      
If we're using it on a daily basis (as I do) we've already seen the banner many times and this post is redundant, no?
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6 points by citricsquid 3 hours ago 5 replies      
After reading about the money they spend... no thanks. I'll find the link, but apparently they spend over $10,000,0000 a year and this year they're aiming for $25,000,000. That to me is just ever so slightly ridiculous.

Actually that was easy, here is their financial information: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Financial_reports and a specific outline of what they want to make/spend is on page 12 of this PDF: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/d/dd/2010-1... Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/43973767/Untitled?secret_password=... )

Edit: To clarify, the issue I have is with the increase, not the costs for this year. They're going from 10m to 25m and I don't understand how, if there's an explanation somewhere please do link :-)

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9 points by corin_ 4 hours ago 6 replies      
Here's my question: what's wrong with advertising?

If users don't mind adverts on commercial sites that offer free content, why would they mind it on a not-for-profit site?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for donating to charities in general (and do, regularly), I'm all for donating to Wikipedia (and have done more than once), and I'm all for websites that allow people who donate to disable adverts. But despite having donated to Wikipedia, I'd have no problem with seeing adverts on every page (as long as they're reasonably subtle, and don't consist solely of the cheapest of the cheap adverts, such as "omg you won an ipod lol!!"). In fact, I think I'd prefer seeing normal adverts than the constant reminder that they want donations.

"No ads. No agenda. No strings attached."

Why does being a "community website" mean they shouldn't use advertising revenue to support their growth?

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2 points by nnutter 29 minutes ago 0 replies      
I think this is a good example of why the profit motive is important. Maybe they could figure out how to lower costs instead of almost tripling costs if they had some incentive.
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4 points by axod 56 minutes ago 0 replies      
I use it daily, but I wouldn't donate. I wouldn't pay for it, and if it was gone, I'd expect its hole would be filled by other websites.

Sorry if that sounds uncharitable, but I don't agree with donating to such a large bureaucratic organization.

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2 points by Kilimanjaro 30 minutes ago 0 replies      
Replace the donation ads on top for billable ads.

There, a steady income source way better than asking for $20M every year.

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9 points by earnubs 4 hours ago 3 replies      
For the love of all that is good, how, once I have donated, do I stop the ads?
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2 points by euroclydon 2 hours ago 1 reply      
This is not your typical fundraiser, unfortunately.

A few questions I'd like answered:

1) How much money do they need?

2) How much of that have they raised so far?

3) Is this going to be an annual fundraiser?

4) Do they have an endowment which can fund Wikipedia going forward?

5) Have they relied on donations thus far?

6) What happens if they can't raise the money?

I want Wikipedia to stay around in it's present form, but I'd really like to know what my commitment for that needs to be for the next 40 years, not just right this second.

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1 point by mark_l_watson 43 minutes ago 0 replies      
I just made a small donation. Wikipedia+DBpedia == great source for structured text for text mining and NLP. Well worth supporting.
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8 points by SimplePast 4 hours ago 6 replies      
Yeah sure, but the Jimmy Wales's picture on every page annoys me !
IMAO the last year compaign is better ...
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3 points by PedroCandeias 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I don't think there would be anything seriously wrong about Wikipedia displaying ads to support itself. If I were in charge, I'd probably do just that. That being said, though, there's something very cool about the 5th most visited website in the world being completely ad free and 100% visitor-supported. That's why I donated.
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0 points by jaysonelliot 24 minutes ago 0 replies      
When Jimmy Wales stop trying to sex me with his eyes, I'll think about it.

I find it hard to "donate" to megalomaniacs.

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2 points by theNeutral 2 hours ago 1 reply      
How many of us coming up with these nuanced concerns because we just don't want to fork over $20?
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What Has Riled 96 Prominent Internet Engineers and 49 Law Professors? ieee.org
21 points by woan 2 hours ago   2 comments top 2
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3 points by swombat 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Terrible title (especially with the capitalisation), but very sound article.

On the technical side, I wonder if a new DNS system outside of US control wouldn't be a good thing. Presumably, the best DNS system would be decentralised in some fashion... This might lead to a difficult transition period, but the end result (an internet where domain names are basically uncensorable by any government) would be very desirable.

I wonder what that would look like.

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1 point by jdp23 2 hours ago 0 replies      
it's great to see IEEE spectrum laying out the technical issues so clearly along with the legal perspectives. it's something that any startup in the web space needs to be tracking to understand the likely risks moving forward.
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Tim Berners-Lee says Facebook is a trap bioscholar.com
50 points by greenlblue 4 hours ago   32 comments top 12
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10 points by dominiek 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I think that Berners-Lee and W3C get way too much credit for the web. And this is an incredibly arrogant statement by Mr. Berners-Lee.

Facebook has in-fact done some serious web innovation the last years and W3C has completely dropped the ball. Facebook and Twitter have been catalyzing internet adoption and the general spread of information.

Mr. Berners-Lee's obsession about content-silos shows that there is a serious disconnect between the current state of the web and W3C. The web was about content and documents fifteen years ago, now it's about the flow of data.

I know Berners-Lee is a big Linked Data advocate, but the approach that's being taken by the W3C is painfully slow and doesn't take into account the fluidity of information.

This is one of the reasons why developers (and even semantic web developers) have resorted to non-W3C technologies more and more: JSON, Javascript-wrappers, Webkit, client-side routing, non-REST HTTP requests, IOSockets/Coment, streaming apis, etc.

The web is emergent and out of control. Deal with it. Technologies and tools compete for attention and adoption. You snooze, you lose.

As for the 'content silos': Are you fucking kidding me? 'Content' being stuck in Facebook is not going to happen, in fact, the content is going to flow more and more. If you mark something as 'only my friends can see this', it will leak. Don't want to be tagged in a picture? Well, you have no choice. Face recognition will get you soon.

The internet, thanks to social web, is a giant copy machine. There's a huge shitstream of content and your attention and the activity around it is the thing that matters. Who cares about the damn content.

So maybe it's time for the 'Web Founder' and the W3 Web Museum to roll up their sleeves and do something, instead of bitch about the companies that actually advance the web.

So instead of bitching about the companies and people that actually advance the web and change the world, maybe it's time for the 'Web Founder' and the Web Museum to roll up their sleeves and do something...

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1 point by paulnelligan 6 minutes ago 0 replies      
I always have a feeling that facebook is limiting entrepreneurs. You can't launch a social product today without making it facebook compliant and this means abiding by facebook's rules, and working within their structural limitations. These limitations they've imposed ensure that they keep their market share and prevent anyone else from really growing in the same space as them. But I don't think they can stay at the top forever. Demand for an open alternative is too high, and I'm really hoping (along with many others) that Diaspora can make some headway with this.
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10 points by SimonPStevens 3 hours ago 2 replies      
Here's what I use instead of Facebook:

Google calendar for events - Anyone with any email address can be invited to an event. Google calendar also emails out standard format .ics files with it's invites so participants are free to use whatever calendar app they choose and just import the ics files. (This also hooks up nicely with my android calendar). I'm looking forward to when everyone on Facebook gets an @facebook email address and then I'm going to start sending them all Google calendar invites ;-) Seriously, I think Google calendar is a seriously under recognised service.

Twitter for a news feed equivalent - You don't need an account to read so it is open enough. (There is also status.net or identi.ca if you want even more openness). I embed a feed of the most recent posts in my webpage. If you want to subscribe, you can use RSS so you don't have to use twitter to follow me.

Photos - I use a combination of FlickR and my own custom image gallery on my website. On FlickR you can set the photos to be public so viewers don't need to have an account.

Messages - Obviously I just use email.

When I meet people I want to connect with, I ask for their email address rather than ask if they are on Facebook. I occasionally use Facebook to find people and then ask for their email address via Fb message.

I can't think of anything else I really miss out on from Fb.

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5 points by alecco 2 hours ago 0 replies      
The other day we went to an arts event/party. Most of the pictures are trapped inside Facebook. The artists couldn't comprehend why I didn't have "face" at all. This same crowd would've uploaded the pictures to Flickr only a couple of years ago.

Staying out of Facebook isn't enough.

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1 point by oldpond 28 minutes ago 0 replies      
I think he's right in some ways. I for one don't want my internet to be branded. I'd like to know how it came about that everywhere you look you only see a few brands on the internet now. Facebook, Twitter, Google, eBay. Are we saying there's only one social networking site, only one whatever-Twitter-is site, only one search engine, only one place to sell your garage sale junk? How did that happen?

Companies like Disney control the movie industry by controlling the channel. You can make movies all you want, but try to get them into the theatres and rental stores. It's the same for the music industry. You can cut cd's all you want but try to get them on the radio or in the music stores. You can make a website and it can be the best website in the world, but if it doesn't appear in a search engine, it doesn't exist.

With all these big, rich companies doing business on the internet, do you think for a minute they are going to allow it to remain free?

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3 points by coliveira 2 hours ago 2 replies      
I don't know how FB can be a threat to the web if it can only exist because of the web. In a sense, friend data is just another kind of data. The same thing can be said, for example, of Gmail or hotmail. They host the email and contact information for millions of people.
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2 points by brown9-2 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Previous discussion from 2 days ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1929796
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4 points by SeanDav 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I voted with my feet - I have long since stopped using Facebook for anything other than an occasional game playing platform. Unfortunately I haven't yet found a suitable replacement to use as a social network, but I live in hope...
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1 point by dododo 2 hours ago 1 reply      
w3c should create open standards for social networks.

i don't think these companies are going to do it, and this seems exactly what w3c is meant to do. so why not? seems more productive.

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2 points by earnubs 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Aren't closed silos a big part of the web already, Facebook or no? The W3C is mostly a closed silo, isn't it?
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1 point by arethuza 3 hours ago 1 reply      
So if Facebook is so bad, someone please come up with a compelling high level vision of what could replace it and why the replacement would be better?

Preferably something as compelling as Sir Tim's original vision for the Web...

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-1 point by pointillistic 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I agree with the sentiment completely but doesn't Tim-Berners-Lee work for Google, the main competitor?
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Code Thief at Large: Marak Squires / JimBastard (Reddit Debate) reddit.com
7 points by supporting 27 minutes ago   1 comment top
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1 point by supporting 26 minutes ago 0 replies      
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Index of Boot Sounds free.fr
10 points by iuguy 55 minutes ago   discuss
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Introduction to Category Theory in Scala hseeberger.wordpress.com
11 points by zaa 1 hour ago   discuss
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Drew Houston's (Dropbox) YC Application dropbox.com
67 points by giu 6 hours ago   13 comments top 10
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1 point by pasbesoin 15 minutes ago 0 replies      
OT: The Windows machine I'm using at the moment has the/a Norton... security suite installed (firewall, anti-virus, et al.).

Upon navigating to the linked page, a pop-up appeared warning that the site is "unsafe".

Which causes me some concern that the "mainstream" campaign against Dropbox and others may already be gearing up.

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6 points by dotBen 5 hours ago 1 reply      
With Google's GDrive clearly listed as a potential competitor, which had to be mentioned several times in the application, I didn't find the application as "strong" as I would have expected.

Of course, I love + use DropBox, and GDrive has never really happened (not in the dropbox-like incarnation people expected) but at the time the application was written it seemed as though things were very stacked against DB.

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4 points by giu 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Source of this submission is pg's following comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1938348

To quote it: If there's one thing applicants don't get, it's the value of being concise in the answers. Not brief, concise.

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3 points by crocowhile 1 hour ago 0 replies      
There was a version of this with PG's comment that was even more interesting to read.
Edit: found here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=801503
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4 points by rkwz 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I liked this part >>

# Why would your project be hard for someone else to duplicate?
This idea requires executing well in several somewhat orthogonal directions, and missteps in any torpedo the entire product.

For example, there's an academic/theoretical component: designing the protocol and app to behave consistently/recoverably when any power or ethernet cord in the chain could pop out at any time. There's a gross Win32 integration piece (ditto for a Mac port). There's a mostly Linux/Unix-oriented operations/sysadmin and scalability piece. Then there's the web design and UX piece to make things simple and sexy. Most of these hats are pretty different, and if executing in all these directions was easy, a good product/service would already exist.

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2 points by ra 3 hours ago 0 replies      
> What are people forced to do now because what you plan to make doesn't exist yet?

> Email themselves attachments.

For me, that was the killer feature that got me hooked 2+ years ago.

Today we use Dropbox for so much more. It's become the ultimate networked drive that takes advantage of your local hard disk.

The one feature I wish it had was encryption.

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2 points by vaksel 4 hours ago 1 reply      
seems like 1 million is the number everyone goes with...so if someone sees a very promising startup at demo day, would be a good number to offer.
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1 point by naz 5 hours ago 0 replies      
"How long have the founders known one another and how did you meet?"

I wonder how many single founders make a terrible joke answer to that question and if some sort of filtering could be applied. Drew handled it well, I would have just put n/a

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1 point by lwhi 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Providing ideas which could be patented on the application form seems quite foolhardy (for the applicant) .. is that a trick question?

EDIT: Actually, I suppose it serves two goals -> could show potential ingenuity, but also reveals how 'trusting/guarded' the applicant is.

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1 point by ThePinion 4 hours ago 0 replies      
It's awesome how honest he was in who his competitors were and how similar they were to his product (including the fear that Google would eventually overtake) and yet all through the application he seemed very confident that his product was going to succeed and surpass what the others attempted to do.

I remember showing my friends the first presentation video when they started giving out private Beta invites. I was so stoked to have something like it that my friends could also use with me. I'm very glad everything worked out for him and the Dropbox crew!

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Donate to the FreeBSD Foundation sharanet.org
22 points by Uncle_Sam 2 hours ago   4 comments top 3
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1 point by cperciva 8 minutes ago 0 replies      
Just to chime in here: The work the FreeBSD Foundation does is really really important. A lot of what they do is behind the scenes, but things like providing legal advice or ensuring that FreeBSD developers can attend conferences makes the project run much more smoothly than it would otherwise.

And if you compare the budgets (~300k vs. ~20M), well, the FreeBSD Foundation needs the money far more than Wikipedia does.

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1 point by brainlounge 1 hour ago 1 reply      
If you think the scale scales a bit strange at the upper scales, you are not alone.
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2 points by JCKa1 2 hours ago 0 replies      
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Show HN: my new app is fast user switching for the iPad (sort-of) mechanicalteeth.com
21 points by mcobrien 3 hours ago   14 comments top 5
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5 points by blasdel 1 hour ago 2 replies      
"Ever get nervous leaving iPad around with your email account logged in?"

Please don't use Apple's insufferable house style of ditching articles and possessives when mentioning the physical device.

Thankfully you use "an iPad" and "your iPad" elsewhere, you just need to be consistent.

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3 points by Vojto 22 minutes ago 0 replies      
I think you should add app icon and/or some kind of logo on the website.

Now it's a bit confusing:

> Switch lets different people ...

And people start thinking: Switch? What is Switch?

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Take a look at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/
See? iPad. The biggest text on the page.

By the way Switch is a very cool name for an app so use it a lot :-)

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2 points by marklubi 24 minutes ago 0 replies      
The website could really use some work for those users trying to browse it on an iPad. The paging indicators imply that the user should be able to swipe, but in actuality, the user must wait for the timed change, or try to hit one of the extremely small pips (well, extremely small for mobile browsing)

Creating a positive web experience for actual users of the device you're selling to is critical.

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5 points by lordmatty 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Love the idea...I think that its important people know its about web browsing...perhaps a tweak to the App icon to indicate this?
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2 points by mcobrien 3 hours ago 1 reply      
Here's the sort-of: it's a multi-user web browser rather than full fast-user switching but (at least for me), that's 90% the same thing.

It's implemented with some nice UI and cookie swapping.

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Stack Overflow Hits 10M Uniques techcrunch.com
36 points by nands 5 hours ago   15 comments top 4
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5 points by pierrefar 4 hours ago 2 replies      
Just to be clear: 10 million uniques is measured using analytics cookies, quantcast in this case. The exact definition varies by analytics provider, but regardles, it has nothing to do the number of user accounts.

Of course it's an estimate as there are complications in calculating it like users deleting cookies, one user with multiple browsers (ahem, programmers), etc.

It's still an awesome milestone.`

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2 points by niyazpk 4 hours ago 1 reply      
This is a classic case for "Be so good that they cannot ignore you".

For such a long time TC have deliberately refrained from mentioning/promoting StackOverflow.

Thank you guys (the SO team and the contributors), for providing such a valuable website for programmers.

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5 points by nands 5 hours ago 1 reply      
Stack overflow has probably been the best Q&A site around, content-wise, user-experience wise and probably every other criteria a user would care about. Good work !
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1 point by AgentConundrum 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I suppose it depends on how they're counting uniques, but I doubt it has much, if anything, to do with how many accounts there are on the site.

I just checked their users page (http://stackoverflow.com/users) and they 8003 pages of 35 accounts, which comes out to be "just" 280,105 accounts in the system, including people who just stop by once to ask or answer a random question (you don't need to create an account there, they create a cookie-based one for you when you do something on the site the first time).

They're pretty much definitely identifying uniques via some combination of cookies, IP addresses, and perhaps some other methods. I seriously doubt you bother to clear your old cookies before creating each new account on the system.

Besides, I got the impression that the article was referring to the entire network, including the StackEx sites, in its totals.

I'm a bit like you too, btw, in that I have more than one account there, but for a different purpose. I've created new accounts there before to ask what I think are really dumb questions. It's bad enough that the top voted question on my account right now is "Should I find a new career?" which I created during a particularly bad time at my last job. That question is probably the single biggest reason I never signed up for their Careers service, right after the fact that there's basically nothing there for Canada.

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Show HN: I'm Everyone, a live, anonymous image/video site (potentially NSFW). imeveryone.com
35 points by nailer 3 hours ago   32 comments top 10
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4 points by edkennedy 1 hour ago 1 reply      
I would suggest a way to see how many comments have been made on each photo. Fantastic blog, I'm enjoying all the content so far. Also when an image is clicked it would be great to see the full size. For example there is a long image file that has been shrunk down so all the text is unreadable.
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7 points by TamDenholm 3 hours ago 2 replies      
Really interesting, as long as you can stop it from becoming 4chan. :P
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3 points by joshwa 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Giving it about 3 weeks until it's overrun by spammers.
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3 points by devinj 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Why is it that this post is not dead, but the author's description comment is?
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2 points by PostOnce 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I've always wanted to do things like this, but the potential illegal uploads freak me out. Even if I wouldn't end up liable for anything in the end, I'm sure it could still cause me a big headache.
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2 points by lancer383 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I really like this - very simple (although I am guessing there is a lot of complexity behind the scenes to make it so simple).

One idea " what about making people authenticate with Facebook Connect to post? This would help with concerns about bad content being uploaded, as well as give a little bit of info about the author, and down the road you could subscribe to posts by a particular author?

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1 point by clofresh 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Looks like posting a youtube embed in the comments breaks things
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2 points by necolas 2 hours ago 0 replies      
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1939945 - oh well. I like what you've done and will be interested to see how the content evolves as more people start using it
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3 points by prabodh 3 hours ago 1 reply      
Please add NSFW to the title ..
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1 point by bobds 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Tried posting a couple times, it didn't work.
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Zediva Streams Movies From Physical DVD Players, Argues It's Legal techcrunch.com
64 points by kapitalx 7 hours ago   19 comments top 8
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17 points by dtf 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Brilliant. Makes me want to become a customer to support their sheer chutzpah. I guess they must have done at least some legal homework. Not that it matters much when you're baiting the attack dogs of the content industries, whose primary fear seems not to be loss of revenue but loss of control.
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12 points by Jabbles 6 hours ago 1 reply      
And just like that, the technological world takes a step backwards. It's akin to when Concorde was decommissioned; the standard way to sell streamed movies may become to have a physical copy, with all the limitations that causes. This time it's due to legal restrictions.

Whilst this change will hopefully benefit customers and help lower prices, anyone can see that this is not the optimal solution.

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11 points by gregschlom 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm curious to see wich kind of legal weapon the movie companies are going to use to fight this one.

I expect something like forbid playing rental dvds on players more than 10 feet away from the TV... This is going to be sick.

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3 points by xentronium 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I guess, it's actually like renting a digital copy (since most of the time it will be served through cache, right?), just you aren't able to serve more copies at the same time than you legally possess.

That's smart.

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2 points by michael_dorfman 5 hours ago 3 replies      
Wow, that's not a very scalable business. You need one physical DVD player for every concurrent customer, inventory of all of the DVDs sufficient to handle peak demand, and a small staff of bored employees keeping the right DVDs in the drives.

In other words, you still have all of the worst features of owning a DVD rental store.

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2 points by arethuza 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I wouldn't mind if I could dump all my DVDs into a box, send it to someone and have them stream them to me when I want, to any device I want.
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2 points by bobf 5 hours ago 0 replies      
So Zediva is pursuing the redbox strategy, except by streaming instead of physical rental.
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0 points by dan00 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Great! We need even more complex laws ...
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Haskell, Perl 6, Haskell comichunter.net
25 points by draegtun 4 hours ago   3 comments top 2
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3 points by trezor 2 hours ago 1 reply      
This is always one of my motivations for learning a new language.

In my field of business (development / .NET), there is no way C# is going away as the language of choice, so learning new languages will very rarely allow me to use those fully in the line of duty.

However, learning different languages, addressing problems differently, allowing different kind of constructs with different levels of flexibility often reveals other solutions to problems and allows you think about things outside your normal day-to-day language's constraints.

Often the result of learning new languages is that I see concepts and constructs which are neat and useful and which I like to the point that I will backport it to C# if it can be done in a non-intrusive and not too cludgy way.

I expect this to yield true for many other programmers as well.

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1 point by stygianguest 22 minutes ago 0 replies      
This is actually one of the first really positive reactions to Perl 6 I've seen so far. It seems quite nice indeed, but I have yet to really try it for myself.
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Matt Blaze: No, You Can't Have My Slides crypto.com
98 points by adulau 10 hours ago   31 comments top 17
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13 points by danilocampos 7 hours ago 2 replies      
I love speaking and especially love speaking from minimalist slides. I'll have whole chunks of the presentation where the slide is just black for a few minutes, because I want to be sure the focus is on the storytelling, not the shiny digital thing.

If you've got more than a handful of words on your slide, there's a huge chance you're just doing it wrong. If you've got a paragraph or more up there, you're just wasting everyone's time. Better suited as a book at that point, right?

Also, oldie but goodie. Nothing beats Norvig's rendition of the Gettysburg Address in PowerPoint:

http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/sld001.htm

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1 point by raganwald 51 minutes ago 0 replies      
I'm often asked by conference attendees for the slide decks. Since they just sat through the presentation, I assume that they're perfectly aware of the futility of trying to understand the presentation from the visual aids.

Perhaps they just want one funny picture, or to refresh their own memories of what I said? I give them credit for having good reasons and make them available online, usually before I step on the stage, e.g.

https://github.com/raganwald/presentation_decks

http://www.flickr.com/photos/raganwald/sets/7215762325807370...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/raganwald/sets/7215762264724236...

That being said, I agree with Matt and others here that a presentation can stand alone or it can be a visual aid but it can't be both. So if I want to take the same ideas and put them in writing, I write a blog post:

https://github.com/raganwald/homoiconic/blob/master/2010/01/...

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12 points by frossie 9 hours ago 1 reply      
It's amazing how reflexive that question is, and I also get it a lot even though I will only, say, use 5 slides for an hour-long talk.

Hell, I have been asked for my slides after a talk where I was obviously just showing live screens in a firefox window. Like, dudes, that's not slides, that's the software.

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10 points by rriepe 9 hours ago 1 reply      
It's always interesting to see how a speaker reacts to technical problems.

When the projector goes down, or the laptop isn't booting up, watch the speaker. If he's good, it's no big deal at all to him. If he isn't, he'll probably be a mess.

The powerpoint isn't the presentation. Just a small part of it. I mainly reserve mine for funny pictures and bullet points.

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10 points by qntm 5 hours ago 1 reply      
This quote leapt out at me:

"[PowerPoint] wants to organize the talk, to manage the presentation. There's always going to be a slide up, whether you need it there or not. Want to skip over some material? OK, but only by letting the audience watch as you fast-forward awkwardly through the pre-set order. Change the order around to answer a question? Tough..."

PowerPoint (and any other presentation software worth its salt) can do this! Press B to replace your current slide with a black screen, W to replace it with a white screen.

If you know the slide numbers you can just type a number to jump to that slide and I believe (don't quote me on this, I don't have PowerPoint) you can set keyboard shortcuts to specific slides in advance too. You can set up your display to show a navigator while the projector is showing the current slide, meaning you can pick the next slide manually without exposing the audience to your fumbling. And a little research will reveal many more useful little options. You are in control of your presentation, not the other way around.

And the best bit: most people don't even know that these things are possible. So when you do them, it makes you look competent and well-prepared, which makes it more likely that they'll listen to the rest of what you say.

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10 points by mudgemeister 7 hours ago 0 replies      
As mentioned in the article, Edward Tufte has a similar opinion of PowerPoint's approach to presentations which he wrote about at length in "The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint: Pitching Out Corrupts Within" http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_pp - a sample of which can be read here: http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0...

What is particularly difficult about this issue is that I have recently enjoyed reviewing slides from talks at RubyConf but am also aware that the most detailed slides may well have accompanied the worst presentations. I'm thinking particularly of talks that amount to nothing more than a speaker reading out their slides which sometimes cause me to wonder: "what value is being added by the speaker actually being here if I could just read this content in my own time?"

I suppose -- as other commenters have mentioned -- there are two audiences for slides:

* People who saw the presentation and want reference material;

* People who haven't seen the presentation and wish to substitute attendance with the slides alone.

Only the former audience is well served by conference organisers blindly demanding slides, the latter lack the context of the talk itself. What would be better is if some more complete version of a presentation was available (video, transcript, etc.) but this isn't always possible or permitted. The danger is that the easier option -- just providing slides -- actually miscommunicates the quality or intention of the presentation for those who weren't in attendance.

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6 points by beefman 8 hours ago 2 replies      
He may be senior, but he's not making sense. If somebody asks for your slides at your talk, there's a good chance they've seen the talk. So they have the context, they may just want a refresher later. Or maybe they saw something on a slide they couldn't make out before you advanced.

Besides, what do you care? What's the real reason you're refusing?

Here's the logical extension of the suggested alternative: don't bother to give a talk. Just send copies of your papers.

But that sounds silly to me. I think there's probably a reason people both give talks and write papers. So here's my suggestion: if your slides aren't worth giving out, don't show them when you speak.

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7 points by hackoder 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm interested in understanding why this is being upvoted so aggressively, if someone who upvoted this could share their thoughts. (This really is a serious query- i don't see anything in the content that warrants an upvote).
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4 points by jaysonelliot 9 hours ago 0 replies      
I also prefer to speak without slides, or with images that don't make sense if you see them alone. After all, it's about the speaker, not the slideshow, as many others have pointed out.

In a situation like that where I anticipate that people might want a "copy of my slides" afterward, I prepare a handout that contains notes, whether in bulleted form or narrative.

If someone is interested enough to want to revisit my talk, I'm honored, and I'm certainly going to put in a little effort to share it with them.

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1 point by A1kmm 6 hours ago 0 replies      
If you can't fit the take home message of your presentation on slides with a few points to a slide, you are presenting material faster than your audience can realistically be expected to take it in - they might nod along, but they probably won't follow your presentation, and they certainly won't remember the details afterwards. Talks are not a good way to convey detail heavy academic material like proofs anyway, that is what conference papers and publications are for.

If you put up slides, some of the audience will be reading the slides rather than listening to you; you can either resist that and not put slides up, or you can use it to your advantage and put what you want to convey in bullet points.

I'm personally of the view that it is better to give people who would rather read bullet points than listen something to read rather than sit there and probably not take anything in anyway.

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2 points by davedavedave 6 hours ago 0 replies      
As a general rule of thumb, I like the 10/20/30 rule: 10 slides, 20 minutes, 30pt font.

I'm not a fan of speaking (although I'm starting to come round to it) and I tend to waffle both on the slides and when talking, so this helps me to keep focused.

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1 point by rwmj 6 hours ago 0 replies      
ObAdvert for Tech Talk PSE, the thinking gentleman's presentation aid:

http://annexia.org/techtalk

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1 point by jiri 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Interesting. Surely, you don't need slides. But I understand that powerpoint has its limitations and you may need to use another "presentation" software.

What about Prezi (http://prezi.com/). You can make presentation in more flexible way because of "zooming" concept.
Its really ackward to fast forward slides in Powerpoint, but it seems very natural in Prezi where you can focus just on details you want to show your audience, by "zooming" to charts/lists/pictures you want to emphasize and eventually zoom-out to see the big picture.

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1 point by doppel 7 hours ago 0 replies      
I think he is perfectly reasonable in not giving out his slides. A lot of people put up slides on slideshare or somewhere else, as if those alone gives you a comprehensible understanding of what subject they are presenting - it does not!

A good presentation has few slides with a few key points, some images and the rest should come from the presenter. In contrast, an article explaining a subject is primarily made up of text, code samples and a few images. If you try to aim for the middle ground, you are going to get something that is sub-par for both.

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1 point by kilps 6 hours ago 0 replies      
The author is right about PowerPoint wanting "to organize the talk" - does anyone know any presentation software which breaks from this?
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-2 points by meatsock 9 hours ago 0 replies      
"from PowerPoint's perspective, I'm usually using it badly"

the alternative to using power point badly takes 0 cycles

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-1 point by iopuy 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I really hope his presentations don't contain any code snippets from any GNU tools source code, or maybe portions of the linux kernel code. His work in in sercurity and this seems most applicable to benefitting from the GPL.
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Steal This Presentation slideshare.net
122 points by Adrock 12 hours ago   15 comments top 7
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11 points by snikolov 10 hours ago 3 replies      
While this is a decent set of tips for design, the important thing to remember if you are actually giving a talk is that you are the presentation, not your slides.

Edit: That said, the right visual aids can be important for delivering a powerful message. I found this pretty useful in terms of making great looking slides that will actually help your talk by highlighting key points and keeping people's attention.

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5 points by jaysonelliot 12 hours ago 0 replies      
The two most important things I've learned about presentations:

1. Look at your audience, not your slides. They didn't show up to look at the back of your head.

2. Put as little on the screen as possible. If you have more you want them to read/remember afterward, make a handout with the detailed stuff. You want your audience looking at YOU, not a slide on the wall.

Nancy Duarte was handing out copies of her book "Slideology" to speakers at the BIL 2009 conference - it was the best schwag I've ever gotten. I can't recommend her blog enough: http://slideology.com/

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1 point by JonathanFields 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I generally focus on powerful images and one to three word phrases and use slides largely as an "emotion force multiplier."

Even so, I don't believe any slide holds a candle to an exceptionally structured, well-told story. People remember those a lot longer than a pretty deck.

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1 point by FluidDjango 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I was going to DL this to peruse later... then found it was a 51MB pdf. Really: got to love that slideshare.

I thought this pretty weak compared to, for example, "Presentation Secrets of Steve Jobs" by Carmine Gallo.

And... all the plugs for SlideShare in the presentation: what's with that? Started to feel like more of an infomercial than anything. I'd recommend spending 15 minutes just scanning Gallo's book at a book (I did. then bought it anyway.)

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1 point by mangool 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Way too much text on some of these slides... that's what loses the audience. Break down information into smaller parts and present them on short, separate slides. This creates a fluid and engaging visual element to complement the verbal element.
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2 points by rodericksilva 11 hours ago 1 reply      
and practice, practice, practice.
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-4 points by drivebyacct2 10 hours ago 2 replies      
72 slides with that much text? It's tacky but, tl;dr. Oh come on. I love that I've already been downvoted since there is no way that anyone even went through half of those slides in the time that has elapsed since my comment. It's seventy-two slides.
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Why blurring sensitive information is a bad idea dheera.net
59 points by soundsop 8 hours ago   33 comments top 9
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14 points by DrJokepu 5 hours ago 0 replies      
As seen in the brilliant 2008 Underhanded C Contest, sometimes even masking isn't enough: http://underhanded.xcott.com/?p=12
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17 points by andrewreds 6 hours ago 0 replies      
WHAT... why would you completely black out the number, where you could instead use random coloured squares, that look like it is a blurring, so someone can go through all the effort, decoding your white noise, and thinking in the end they have your number... when they don't ;
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8 points by jadedoto 7 hours ago 2 replies      
I dont think he is stressing the ease of doing this with credit card numbers. The sample space he is suggesting generating is far too large... You can usually identify the first several digits simply by the issuing organization, as they all use standardized numbers, the remaining digits must pass a certain checksum algorithm. So really generating a bunch of valid cc numbers is quite trivial. Matching exp dates with numbers and ccv numbers.. Different story.

But i wonder what the limits to effectiveness is on this attack. I usually randomly swirl around with a smear tool to blur out things...

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3 points by andraz 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Actually when you really need to decode a blurred or mosaiced image you can do even more tricks. Especially when they are screenshots. Since you can take a pattern (digits) and blur them with all possible options of certain most popular image editing software, you can then do massive number of comparisons to see what comes out right.
It's massively cpu intensive, but I am sure people that need it can do it.

Blacking out the section entirely is the only proper way, since you really want to be sure you are destroying the information in the image, not just dispersing it.

Even then, if you are removing a single digit it can be partially recovered by observing kerning statistics, etc.

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17 points by jbeluch 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Also be sure to strip EXIF data since it can contain an original thumbnail. Not all image editors update the thumbnail with changes.
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3 points by makecheck 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm wondering if the copyright and year are accurate...I recall reading something like this a few years ago, complete with pictures of sample checks.
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1 point by andrewmu 1 hour ago 0 replies      
"Identify the exact size and offset, in pixels, of the mosaic tiles used to blur the original image (easy)"

I don't see that this is easy. Surely you have to test a number of offsets and sizes of text? And without knowing the digits, this is not going to be totally accurate.

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1 point by sliverstorm 7 hours ago 1 reply      
You don't even have to color over, or blur, or do any of that hard stuff. Just select the region, and press "CTRL-X", save and quit. No reason to do it any other way.
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1 point by guynamedloren 6 hours ago 2 replies      
Here's a tip: if you do blur, don't use mosaic. Use the blur tool.
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Dollars to Documentation - Donate to help document Rails ryanbigg.com
28 points by rohitarondekar 5 hours ago   1 comment top
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4 points by smiler 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Ask 37signals if they will sponsor it?
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Ask HN: What are you thankful for?
10 points by porter 51 minutes ago   8 comments top 7
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1 point by talbina 2 minutes ago 0 replies      
I am thankful for my fingers.

Last week I was just about to enter a hotel. A teen exited from the heavy and large revolving door, and being a teen, he made sure the doors were spinning really fast when he left. When I was entering, I tried to stop it: I put my hand on one of the doors and tried to pull back.

Big mistake.

I realized the door was too heavy and still spinning rather rapidly. By the time I left my hand, the door was a centimeter away from finally entering the outside frame. I pulled away my hand just in time, but the shear weight of such a door coupled with the speed would have wiped out my fingers (there is no space between the door and the outside frame). I wouldn't know what would have happened.

In another instance, somebody closed a steal door (not common in North America) against my fingers. I went straight to the hospital as a couldn't move my fingers, but likely everything was alright after a few hours. But a revolving door is a different story. It doesn't stop.

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1 point by thibaut_barrere 3 minutes ago 0 replies      
I'm thankful for my parents who gave me a computer when I was like 6 and supported my learning throughout the years.

I believe this was a very smart move. It's one of the main reasons I'm having fun doing my work today, without any money issues.

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1 point by olalonde 1 minute ago 0 replies      
I'm grateful for the awesome community that HN is :)
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4 points by NginUS 9 minutes ago 0 replies      
I'm grateful for the free open source software that's essential to keeping projects on budget.
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1 point by olalonde 4 minutes ago 1 reply      
Why is it especially appropriate today?
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1 point by citricsquid 5 minutes ago 0 replies      
opportunities!
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1 point by eof 23 minutes ago 0 replies      
I am extremely thankful that expertise in my hobbies are valuable; and there are a couple times where I really f'd up, and consequences could have been much worse than they were.
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20 Things I've Learned From Traveling Around the World for Three Years fourhourworkweek.com
42 points by carusen 7 hours ago   10 comments top 4
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8 points by stretchwithme 5 hours ago 2 replies      
"Even if it is technically a democracy, most nations are run by and for the benefit of the elites that control the institutions of power"

Democracy by itself is almost meaningless. Individual rights, including strong property rights, even when there is no democracy at all (such as in Hong Kong for most of British rule) produces more freedom and economic well being than decades of democracy without them.

I really liked this piece. Although not sure about the whole thing about Americans traveling less than other people do. Most people in geographically large countries do less foreign travel than people in tiny countries, but they aren't necessarily traveling less.

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6 points by corin_ 6 hours ago 1 reply      
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3 points by arethuza 6 hours ago 0 replies      
For some reason this reminds me of the quote from Dune:

"Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens"

To me, travel is definitely one of the most interesting kinds of change.

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1 point by muffinman2010 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Just wondering if the 4 hour work week is actually a good book, I read like the first chapter, I was very disappointed, no in content and very wordy. Does it get better?
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The Mother of All Demos stanford.edu
74 points by jaysonelliot 10 hours ago   5 comments top 5
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7 points by dbrannan 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I had no idea some of this technology was already available at such an early date - truly fascinating. I was born in 1968, so watching this video has given me a bit of insight to how things were as I entered this world.

Thank you for providing this.

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2 points by nikcub 2 hours ago 0 replies      
This got me thinking - what would an equivalent demo today look like?

ie. what is the cutting edge today that will be the norm in 40 years.

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3 points by radioactive21 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I dont know why but watching early tech always gets me excited. Just interesting to see how everything started.
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2 points by gnufs 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Gnash doesn't seem to be able to play the videos from the RTMP server.

Is there a way for those of us without Adobe Flash to view the videos?

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1 point by StudyAnimal 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Dude is totally stealing Vannevar Bush's ideas. :)
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Ubuntu: Rolling release rumours wrong h-online.com
3 points by ukdm 32 minutes ago   discuss
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HP-Oracle war: HP ditches Oracle CRM for Salesforce theregister.co.uk
8 points by iwr 2 hours ago   2 comments top 2
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1 point by pilif 27 minutes ago 0 replies      
Even with all the bad blood - migrating 40'000 users from one piece of software to another, while keeping all accumulated data intact is a huge and costly undertaking.

And while I'm sure that there is some recurring support cost for the currently deployed software, salesforce, while maybe cheaper in support, probably also comes with a huge initial license fee.

Is this fight over that one guy (albeit the CEO) really worth an investment of this size?

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1 point by thedealmaker 5 minutes ago 0 replies      
HP still uses oracle financial internally. Let's see them ditch that...
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Ask HN: Would you like to see a book on Racket?
26 points by noelwelsh 2 hours ago   discuss
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An experiment in A/B Testing my Résumé paulbutler.org
89 points by chanux 12 hours ago   22 comments top 7
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24 points by latch 10 hours ago 2 replies      
If I could, I'd hire the guy based that blog post alone.
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8 points by imack 10 hours ago 4 replies      
Having screened many, many resumes from co-ops and interns, I buy the shorter resume arguments. A lot of people put crap that some job counsellor told you will make you look more rounded, but the sad truth is that I care about your ability to not mess up the code base so much more than the fact that you volunteered on 'campus day'.

It also makes you stand out in a very basic way. In the stack of 30 resumes, you'll be the one person who could articulate in 1 page where everyone else took 2.

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5 points by derefr 8 hours ago 1 reply      
Could the fact that his "conversion rate" went down when people were given outbound links be explained by the fact that they would rather visit those links than keep reading? I know that if I saw a resume with both a link to a GitHub profile, and to a blog, I'd ignore the blog, stop reading the resume (though perhaps downloading it first in case I needed to contact them) and start reading their code.
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3 points by krobertson 9 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm surprised at the comment about wanting to drive clicks to his blog rather than other sites (namely Github).

When I'm interviewing someone, I am far more interested in a github link thank a blog. Everyone has a blog and most aren't very interesting. But their github account.... if I am hiring a developer, I'll be very interested in what code they've written, projects they're working with, etc.

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1 point by colanderman 2 hours ago 0 replies      
He seems to miss calculating the total visits to his blog based on links included. Seeings as it looks like 5x the number of downloads with a LinkedIn link, but only 1/4 the blog view rate, he actually gets a higher absolute blog view rate (5/4 the number of people) as without a LinkedIn link. The effect is even more pronounced with GitHub (2x absolute number of views), although I agree he should leave Twitter off (1/3 the number of views).
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3 points by rb2k_ 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Does he mention how many hits he actually got in total?
I can't seem to find it in the post
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1 point by evgeny0 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm glad to see the longer/shorter resume results are consistent with the first piece of advise given by Manager Tools on resumes: "one page". http://www.manager-tools.com/2005/10/your-resume-stinks

I've followed this advice and found that most recruiters and employers love a one-page resume. A few hate it, but that's fine by me: I'd take love/hate over indifference any day.

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ScribTeX online LaTeX editor (with git interface) scribtex.com
106 points by frossie 14 hours ago   30 comments top 12
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11 points by frossie 14 hours ago 0 replies      
(I submitted this)

I have zero connection with this site, except it made me very happy when I found about it today. I can't believe I haven't heard of this before (searchyc didn't turn anything up).

Granted you may not be as excited if you don't use LaTeX :-)

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7 points by jpallen 6 hours ago 2 replies      
Hi, I'm the creator of ScribTeX. I'm a regular reader of HN and it was great to see this on the front page this morning. Most of my effort is focused on the technical side of things and I've been relying on word of mouth for promotion. (Sorry to those of you who have been looking for something like this for a while!)

Thank you for all the positive comments, they really mean a lot. The constructive feedback from HN is excellent as always.

For the interested, here are some features I am working on at the moment:
* Better history navigation. The current implementation is quite flat and cumbersome.
* A much better editor. Currently it's just a textbox with syntax highlighting, but I'm working on something to rival the functionality of a desktop editor.
* Overall design, in particular the splash page and information pages

Push and pull access to the underlying git repository is currently a feature I am testing. Send me an email (james@scribtex.com) if you would like me to enable it for your account.

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11 points by CoffeeDregs 13 hours ago 2 replies      
That's just really nice.

I used LaTeX for two theses and loved it. It was very freeing to just worry about content and not about layout. When I use Word, I constantly fiddle with styling and with Word's occasional bizarre behavior (delete a word and the next paragraph becomes bold... ?!). With LaTeX, I spent an hour up front defining styles and a few minutes toward the end adjusting styles, but otherwise just wrote content (in vim!). I don't think I really ever ran into "OMFG, what is it doing?!" situations.

Okay, so the perfect scenario goes: ScribTex does well; ScribTex gets bought by Google; Google Docs adds Tex documents!

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1 point by TheEzEzz 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Very cool. This is headed in the right direction.

I think there's a lot of room for improvement in LaTeX editors. For instance:

Suppose I'm reading a PDF compiled draft and spot an error in an equation. It would be fantastic if I could simply click on the equation and have a mini text box pop up with the relevant LaTeX code. After editing the LaTeX the PDF would seamlessly update.

Or suppose I see an embedded figure and want to change its dimensions. It would be great if I didn't have to guess, compile, check, guess, compile, check, guess, compile, check, etc. If I could see the result as I edit the code, or maybe even have a little GUI to click and drag to scale, that would save me tremendous amounts of time.

I would pay a monthly subscription to have a fast online version of that software.

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3 points by krikor 7 hours ago 1 reply      
The most attractive feature for a service like this is the collaboration features. I have a linux box set up for wake on lan and Dropbox so I can basically do the same thing as long as I have access to a terminal. What would be great was if the editor with ScribTex was something similar to etherpad had where multiple users can edit the same document at once and you can see updates in realtime.
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1 point by scorpion032 8 hours ago 3 replies      
Latex compiling is precisely a kind of thing I'd do on _my machine_ than on a web service.

Who in this world knows Latex but doesn't have access to a machine to compile it into a pdf?

While I really like how well the site has been done, I have a hard time imagining how it would be a success, in the market.

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2 points by btw0 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Just tested with some chinese characters, showed up as blank in the output pdf file. No support for languages other than english is not good.
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3 points by riobard 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Finally the pain of collaboration on LaTeX text due to installation differences will be gone! Kudos!
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1 point by doki_pen 11 hours ago 1 reply      
I wish I could up vote this more. I've tried LaTeX a few times and I think the reason I don't go back more often is because I have to install it and remember how to compile. This makes it much easier to get your feet wet.
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3 points by hootx 13 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm very surprised by the speed of compilation. Latexlab (another online latex editor) isn't nearly as fast. This is a neat tool!
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1 point by nickik 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Awsome! Arrived exactly in the write moment :)
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1 point by ziweb 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I just tried a medium sized file. About 3 pages. It just says loading......
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Sony's next-gen application platform built on Objective C/GNUStep sonydeveloper.com
170 points by aaronbrethorst 18 hours ago   87 comments top 16
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51 points by swannodette 16 hours ago replies      
Honestly I always considered Objective-C to be one of Apple's secret weapon. Both higher and lower level then Java. Objective-C stays closer to the spirit of Smalltalk yet presents no hoop jumping when you need the performance of C.

That, and Cocoa was not designed by morons - protocols and delegation, not inheritance, rightfully rule the day.

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14 points by sudont 17 hours ago 2 replies      
This seems like a great move superficially. Tons of dev's know Cocoa thanks to iOS, and the language and compilers are open.

It will be interesting to see transition difficulty from one implementation to the other.

At the very least, Linux is going to get a serious push for GNUStep, and a ton more dev's if it works out.

http://fireballed.org/linked/2010/11/24/snap/

EDIT: Site's nuked for me. Main page cache from the fireballed.org site:

Sony's Networked Application Platform is a project designed to leverage the open source community to build and evolve the next generation application framework for consumer electronic devices.

The developer program gives access to a developer community and resources like SDK, tools, documentation and other developers.

The foundation upon which this project is base comes from the GNUstep community, whose origin dates back to the OpenStep standard developed by NeXT Computer Inc (now Apple Computer Inc.). While Apple has continued to update their specification in the form of Cocoa and Mac OS X, the GNUstep branch of the tree has diverged considerably.

The GNUstep core libraries strictly adhere to the OpenStep standard and OPENSTEP implementation. They consider changes and additions to their API only under the following circumstances:

They add methods and classes, either from Cocoa or their own extensions, if they add substantial value and don't interfere with OpenStep and/or Cocoa compatibility.
They generally don't remove things unless there is a clearly better implementation in newer Cocoa API
Where there is a real problem with a change, they will attempt find a technically superior work-around. In rare cases, this might involve a change in the original OpenStep API

We depart somewhat from the GNUstep adherence in that our goal is to thoroughly modernize the framework and optimize it to target modern consumer electronic (CE) devices. These modern conveniences include such features as touch displays and 3D graphics.

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20 points by allenbrunson 17 hours ago 2 replies      
wow. wouldn't have guessed this would happen in a million years.

we are all well aware of apple's successes in the last few years, but they all seemed to be happening in their own little walled-off corner of the world. it's typically apple's tech versus the rest of the industry. now here's a sign that apple's influence is being felt at even deeper levels.

i guess webkit was another sign of this, but that doesn't seem as stark as some other company adopting objective-c.

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11 points by cpr 17 hours ago 1 reply      
Interesting--they're basing the 2D graphics on Cairo, which is probably the best choice available in the OSS world.
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9 points by aufreak3 11 hours ago 2 replies      
Site says "SNAP development is currently on hold" (http://snap.sonydeveloper.com/). Dead on arrival?
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8 points by j_baker 16 hours ago 1 reply      
What's especially interesting about this is that Steve Jobs modeled so much of Apple on Sony. Interesting to see things work the other way around.
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7 points by achille 13 hours ago 0 replies      
This is a great coup for GNUStep, back in 2006 when Greg took over as maintainer he posted a blog entry about future plans. Lots of people on slashdot pretty much mocked him and the project.

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/06/12/26/0342200/GNUstep-Proj...

ie: "by Psychotria (953670) ...I think this dude is a complete moron..."

Looks like Greg proved them wrong. As they say: "Living well (or rather: doing well in this case) is the best revenge."

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3 points by mambodog 13 hours ago 2 replies      
The thing that surprises me about this is that I took a look in at GNUStep recently and it kind of seems... unloved. I imagine Sony's had its work cut out bringing things up to date. Also, I would be interested to know how much GNUStep code Sony will be using and how much it will be re-implementing. I've heard some pretty average things about the state of the GNUStep codebase.
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5 points by rbanffy 15 hours ago 1 reply      
I think the best thing here is that GNUStep is GPL - any improvements - and there will be many - bringing it to the same functionality level as Apple's equivalent will be also GPL'ed and open for all.
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4 points by frou_dh 17 hours ago 0 replies      
In other words Sony feel they need to at least make the iOS brain-drain a two way street?
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2 points by sandGorgon 12 hours ago 0 replies      
What is the meaning of
SNAP has a re-architected display model and backend based on Cairo evolving toward COLLADA over time.

COLLADA looks like an XML based digital asset interchange format.

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3 points by halfADDer 8 hours ago 1 reply      
i don't see anything in the article that supports the claim of the title. seriously, did anyone even read it?
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2 points by frankus 17 hours ago 4 replies      
I vaguely remember that there was an Objective-C environment in one of the 90's game consoles. I want to say PlayStation, but it could have been one of the Sega consoles. Anyone know more?
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1 point by hakl 5 hours ago 0 replies      
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-1 point by curtisspope 16 hours ago 0 replies      
this is the secret to dethroning apple.especially if devs can have an open app store with less stringent rules
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-1 point by siculars 16 hours ago 0 replies      
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
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Distant Galaxies Confirm Dark Energy's Existence and Universe's Flatness scientificamerican.com
20 points by sachbh 5 hours ago   3 comments top 3
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1 point by jakerocheleau 5 minutes ago 0 replies      
This is an amazing read I can't believe how quickly science is advancing. A concept I can't grasp is what space should be advancing into. We're saying dark energy is forcing space to expand quicker than any gravitational force could pull it back. But does this mean we're only gaining 3-d space, or are we also seeing time moving at faster speeds?

I'm actually not entirely sure dark energy has any effect on spacetime itself, this is merely speculation which hopefully somebody could answer in better detail.

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5 points by InclinedPlane 5 hours ago 0 replies      
This is pretty significant. The accelerating expansion of the universe is still a surprising result. This completely independent method of measuring that acceleration has come up with the same figures, which bolsters the claim substantially (though the original evidence was very strong, this makes it far, far stronger).
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5 points by thijsterlouw 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I found this article quite readable and the trick from the researchers smart.

They assume that galaxies are oriented randomly (from our viewpoint). In actual observations this does not appear to be the case. They then compensate for it to make all orientations as you would expect (random); The force that caused this distortion can then be calculated and it indicates the existence of dark energy.

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The Insanity Virus discovermagazine.com
142 points by leonardodw 18 hours ago   60 comments top 10
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12 points by Groxx 15 hours ago 2 replies      
>Beyond that, the insanity virus (if such it proves) may challenge our basic views of human evolution, blurring the line between “us” and “them,” between pathogen and host.

Oh, I think we're already there. Given that there are ~10x more microorganisms in your gut than cells in your body[1], and the more you learn about the lymphatic / immune system the more it seems like a symbiote rather than a part of our body, and that mitochondria share many characteristics of symbiotic bacteria[2]. It's another wrinkle, and a very interesting one at that, but that's far from a revolutionary concept.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrion#Origin

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7 points by defen 15 hours ago 4 replies      
This article reminds of something Gregory Cochran has been saying for years - "Your genes didn't evolve to kill you". He has a hypothesis that many of the illnesses and chronic conditions that do not have a clear genetic or environmental toxin basis are actually caused by germs - bacteria or viruses. This would include things like heart disease, diabetes, some cancers, some mental illnesses, etc. The problem is that many of these things do not satisfy Koch's postulates for infectious disease, making it very difficult to test. Or the disease progression takes 40+ years. Unfortunately I'm on my phone at the moment so I can't look anything up, else I would post some links.
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4 points by SoftwareMaven 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I have a very close family member who has suffered from schizophrenia. It is troubling to think that the months of ear infections (or infections that caused said infections) when she was a newborn could have been the trigger.

On the flip-side, it is very heartening to think they may be moving closer to understanding the disease. Looking at my family history, I believe there is a strong predilection in my family for it, so having some hope that my children and/or grandchildren could possibly be spared would be fantastic.

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7 points by die_sekte 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Wow.

It's remarkable how failure-tolerant the human body is.

I guess that this is truly a sign of 'the future'. Forget hoverboards, we're one step closer to being able to reshape ourselves, one step closer to fixing diseases at the source.

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4 points by po 12 hours ago 2 replies      
We lug around 100,000 retro virus sequences inside us; all told, genetic parasites related to viruses account for more than 40 percent of all human DNA. Our body works hard to silence its viral stowaways by tying up those stretches of DNA in tight stacks of proteins, but sometimes they slip out. Now and then endogenous retroviruses switch on and start manufacturing proteins. They assemble themselves like Lego blocks into bulbous retroviral particles, which ooze from the cells producing them.

Sounds like technical debt. Anyone up for a refactoring code sprint?

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4 points by adammichaelc 16 hours ago 2 replies      
I wonder what would happen to creativity and innovation if you got rid of schizophrenia and bipolar by killing this virus as it attacks an infant. Two of the people mentioned, John Nash and Jack Kerouac, were brilliant I think in part because of their illness. I don't know the answer to the question, but it's an interesting thing to consider.
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2 points by car 6 hours ago 0 replies      
The last paragraph says it all:

Even after all that, many medical experts still question how much human disease can be traced to viral invasions that took place millions of years ago. If the upcoming human trials work as well as the animal experiments, the questions may be silenced"and so may the voices of schizophrenia.

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5 points by AnthonBerg 16 hours ago 6 replies      
I have the feeling that these things we never can pin down the cause for - like schizophrenia, MS, and psoriasis - I don't think they are caused by any one thing. Perhaps we have been fooled by the almost one-to-one mapping of reason-to-illness that we have seen so far. Schizophrenia, MS, and also psoriasis, are complex systems that manifest from accumlated weaknesses in incredibly complex systems.
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3 points by lasonrisa 2 hours ago 0 replies      
A honest question, is Discover magazine usually this good?
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0 points by mkramlich 14 hours ago 1 reply      
Due to the breakthroughs discussed in the OA, and some other things, I'd bet they'll have a "cure" of some sort for schizophrenia within the next 10 years, tops. Feels like they're hot on the trail. Also cancer and diabetes.
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