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Ask HN: Why are compensation tiers secret?
31 points by gigatexal  12 hours ago   23 comments top 8
arjunvpaul 5 hours ago 1 reply      
Why does it annoy you? Are you concerned that you may not get a fair deal? Less happy that colleagues at the same job level may be getting paid more or less?

To get a balanced perspective it would useful to read up on both sides of the approach. For example, on one end you have Google's Laszlo Bock arguing in his book Work Rules, that its good that Google "pays unfairly" (https://goo.gl/3hWbQw). On the other end, are the Scandinavian countries like Norway where you can walk into a tax office and see anyone's tax return (https://goo.gl/P5WqW1)

Ricardo Perez-Truglia (https://goo.gl/4DemkS) is someone whose research touches this topic. His findings are briefly mentioned in this video (https://goo.gl/m7ECXM)

brad0 6 hours ago 1 reply      
This kind of attitude frustrates me. It takes the stance that the world should change to make it best for your own personal situation.

Take charge of your own decisions and work out what actions you can do to make your situation better.


Bucephalus355 11 hours ago 2 replies      
Most jobs, at least at big employers, are split up into 4 quartile ranges. So bottom 25, lower middle 25, upper middle 25, and upper 25. Obviously super simple, but it helps to realize this framework going in.

You can actually buy textbooks on how to construct payroll guidelines...do this and you can backwards engineer what you should be getting.

bsvalley 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I think it's just common sense. Employers leave it up to you to share your income or not. Feel free to share your numbers with your colleagues... you'll quickly realize that nobody wants to share this kind of information. Which is the real answer to your question ;)
MiddleEndian 11 hours ago 0 replies      
>Having them so gives the employer all the power

That's why they are secret; nothing more to it.

PhilWright 9 hours ago 3 replies      
Making all salaries public will almost certainly mean your wage costs go up. There are bound to be a range of different salaries given to people doing the same job. So all the ones at the bottom end will be turning up to the annual review demanding to be uplifted to match their peers. If they are turned down then they are likely to leave or just be less productive because they are not happy. Any need people recruited can see the public salaries and therefore negotiate a better pay deal than they might have otherwise.

It is hard to find a case where making the salaries public does not lead to higher wage costs.

ingmarheinrich 2 hours ago 0 replies      
In Germany, it's impossible for employers to tell their employees not to talk about their salaries. It collides with 2 of the German constitution.
gigatexal 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Well then lets fix this. Post below with your title, years of exp, and salary in USD (sans bonuses or stock etc.).

SW Dev Lvl 1 : 0 years : 76k

Ask HN: Is there anyone doing startup (or working) in US on B1/B2 visa?
3 points by symbolepro  3 hours ago   1 comment top
danieltillett 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I am sure there are thousands of such people, but they would be pretty stupid to admit this is a public forum.
Ask HN: Hard copy books to keep for the apocalypse
12 points by tonteldoos  13 hours ago   1 comment top
dasmoth 1 hour ago 0 replies      
The Long Now foundation did something along these lines a few years back[1].

I'd probably go for a bit of 60s SF for my "inspirational" choices.

Have a soft spot for John Seymour's "Practical Self Sufficiency" too.

[1] http://blog.longnow.org/02014/02/06/manual-for-civilization-...

Ask HN: Is there a service that consolidates various SaaS bills/invoicing?
7 points by sailavu  13 hours ago   6 comments top 6
ig1 1 hour ago 0 replies      
It sounds like you need better accounting software, it should be trivial to use your accounting software to keep track of this information.

Presumably whoever does your financial projections has this info in a spreadsheet as well ? (e.g so they can project new employee cost for software that's sold per seat)

SOLAR_FIELDS 8 hours ago 0 replies      
We use Softchoice (https://www.softchoice.com/?). I work at a Fortune 100 company. I don't have much to say besides that I haven't had many complaints, and I only use them because they were an approved vendor before I started, but I've had no issues with them. I mainly use them for mainstream products such as Jetbrains so I cannot speak to their availability when it comes to more esoteric licenses.
nodesocket 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Besides updating credit card information when cards are lost/stolen, what would the benefits of consolidated billing be?
hemantv 12 hours ago 0 replies      
sebg 11 hours ago 0 replies      
What's your contact info?
quickthrower2 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Startup idea!!!
Ask HN: What's your daily-driver headphone model?
14 points by methochris  19 hours ago   19 comments top 16
itnAAnti 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I use Oppo PM-3's for just about everything right now; listening to music while working, gaming, travel, etc.

I got them because I wanted something that blocked external noise (I don't like the "pressure" feeling of active noise cancellation) and they came highly recommended from The Wire Cutter.

I consider them 'fine'. They're relatively comfortable for 2-3 hour stretches (after that, the lack of ventilation makes them start to get sweaty, even in cool rooms), they sound decent, and the build quality and carry-case are great.

On the minuses side, the clarity doesn't match my old Grado SR-80's, the noise blocking isn't as good as my Shure in-ear monitors, and the in-line mic is worse than what's on Apple's standard earbuds.

Bottom line, they're not worth the $400 price tag, but now that I have them, they're good enough that I'm not out looking for another pair.

I have to say, I'm not as impressed with them as The Wire Cutter review led me to believe I would be... and that has affected my opinion of The Wire Cutter. I probably could have bought a generic pair of closed-back headphones for $60 and been just as happy.

randcraw 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Denon AH-D2000 for privacy/workplace, Sennheiser HD580 (upgraded to HD600 spec) for home use, NAD VISO HP50 for serious mobile use, and Westone W30 in-ear with triple flange for max portability.

At work, I amp using a Dragonfly Red outboard DAC, which frankly, I like less than my old NuForce Icon2. (I would've happily stayed with the Nuforce, but Apple cluelessly bricked older "dumb amps" like the Icon2 when they "upgraded" their audio code in MacOS Sierra. Morons.) The Dragonfly just doesn't seem to add anything beyond the system amp.

On my Mac, I drive the external DAC using the Vox app because it has a parametric equalizer. On my i[Phone|Pad], I playback using the Equ app, which also offers para EQ.

I love the Denons. They enhance bass a bit and don't export my music enough to annoy coworkers. The Senn HD-580s are great, but feel a bit "cool" compared to the warmer Denons (due to the open cushions). But their smoothness is effortless; I can listen to them all day long. The NADs cut out surrounding noise really well and offer surprisingly good fidelity for such lightweight cans. I like the Westones mostly for their portability; their sound quality just can't match any of my full-sized cans and IMHO depend too much on a good seal from the triple flanges.

I also own Grado SR325Es, but could never warm to them. Their bass is substantially weaker than my other phones, though mid-to-upper reproduction is exemplary.

Andrenid 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Bose QC35s. Day and night. Pretty much always wearing them. Active noise cancelling changed my life and is up there with the smart phone and Kindle as far as technology that most made my life better.
wingerlang 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I had to google and scan images to find the pair, but I use Panasonic RP-HJE355 (in-ear). I bought a random pair in an airport but I still use them 2 years later every day.
DonutDeflector 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Daily Driver - Sennheiser HD518 / This open-backed pair is warm with some emphasis on the low end. The pads on the HD518 are very comfortable. I can use the headphones the whole day without fatigue.

Music Production - Audio Technica Ath-M35 / This closed-back pair is relatively flat. The pair puts more pressure on my ears so their not very comfortable for more than an hour or two.

On-the-Go - Panasonic Ergofit RP-HJE120 / This is an inexpensive V-shaped pair of IEMs that I typically throw in my pocket. Not the greatest when it comes to audio quality, but it does the job.

quantummkv 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Audio-Technica ATH-M50x. Nothing beats the sheer value they give for that amount of money. Definitely the beat pair of cans i have ever owned.
arca_vorago 18 hours ago 1 reply      
I have been quite rough with my headphones/earbuds over the years, so I've used and broken quite a few, and have a little insight. I'll split between desktop and on-the-go.


Favorite - Razer Barracuda (with matching soundcard), great sound, super comfortable. (wish they hadn't broken)

Runner up - Turtle Beach Ear Force PX21 (just cause it says ps3 don't mean you cant use it on PC!)

Current - Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma (1st gen, 2nd gen is more sturdy metal) (windows software sucks, but I use GNU+Linux)

Others I've used - Logitech G35(wired and wireless versions), Creative Sound Blaster WoW Wireless, Seihnheiser.


Favorite - Yurbuds Ironman Focus Behind the ear (lost them recently, so sad)

Current - Klipsch R6i

Others - Multiple cheap skullcandy, new model Apple.

All that said, on-the-go I don't trust bluetooth so I don't do wireless, but if you do your options expand quite a bit.

One more thing to keep in mind, if you really want the best, go to a hearing aid place and get your earmold taken so you can get the perfect fit rubber exterior for whatever model you choose. Personally, I really loved my Yurbuds Ironman Behind the ears because they stayed on the best while lifting/running/yardwork etc. Most of the time when I select, besides form factor, I mostly base selection on frequency range. Which is how I ended up with the Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma's despite how disapointed I have been with Razor the last few years.

When I was in the military the best pair I ever had was the Bose sound reduction headphones.

herbst 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Sennheiser 25-II. I love the clear and real sound these beasts have. Plus they are durable enough so I can just throw them in my backpack
hood_syntax 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Sennheiser HD 650s at home, with an Asus Xonar Essence STX for the amp. I love them, pretty much exactly what I wanted since I can't imagine myself going more expensive than that unless I had far more expendable income.
iDemonix 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Sennheiser Momentum over-ears for the office (closed back)

Sennheiser HD600 + Marantz PM65005 amp for home (open back)

beaker52 14 hours ago 0 replies      
AKG K712 at home for gaming and general computer audio. Great headphones for an flat, yet appealing sound. An audio engineer friend of mine bought the same set after sampling mine. I have a Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 driving those.

At work and on the go I'm using Shure SE215. Great isolation, clear sound and some of the best bass I've sampled from earphones.

I'd recommend both in a heartbeat and I think both of these represent good bang for their buck. Since I like my music (it's a hobby of mine) I wouldn't tolerate anything that I didn't think fell into the category of high quality.

m-p-3 14 hours ago 0 replies      
At work, some cheap Koss headphone supplied by the office.

At home, a Logitech G430 headset.

On the go, some in-ear bluetooth earphones from Aukey.

fairbraxton 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Usually I use JBL J88's for mostly everything, they are very comfortable and sound great. Personally I'd like a little more base to them but would recommend them for someone who isn't looking for much.
blcArmadillo 14 hours ago 1 reply      
Sony MDR-7506
geoelectric 14 hours ago 1 reply      
I've switched across the board to wireless for the most part. I use a number of different headsets based on location, so here are my choices for various settings.


Bose QC35 -- sound quality is somewhat compromised but the NC and comfort levels are second to none. Bose customer service is also excellent, particularly if you buy (and therefore can return/exchange) through a branded store.

Out and about:

Airpods, with foam covers. Without the covers, these were very convenient headphones that wouldn't stay in my ears for the life of me and so sounded thin and leaked noise. Then I added old-school thin foam earbud covers; Amazon sells some that are donut-style with a hole that exposes the light sensors, and they still fit in the charger. They don't compare to my audiophile headphones, but they sound "pretty good"--about on the same level as my SoundMagic E10s, maybe a little better. More importantly, now I actually will use headphones for 20-30 minutes at a time on walks, whereas before it was too much of a hassle to carry a fat case around, wedge them in my ears, etc.

Home, in living room:

MDR-1ABTs. I don't actually like these as much as I should for what I paid for them. The pads are thin and hurt my ears. But they do connect to my Sony sound bar using their LDAC low-latency/high-def protocol, so I use them for late night viewing.


Playstation Gold or Platinums. I have both. The Golds are more reliable about connecting to the dongle. The Platinums fit over my PSVR headset. Neither sounds great for anything but games, but they integrate tightly into the OS.


SteelSeries Arctis 7. No blinkenlights, and they sound very good for pretty much everything. They're comparable to my wired Sennheiser PC360s (basically a 55x/59x with a mic) but even cheaper. That said, buy the add-on leatherette pads from Steelseries--they make a world of difference for isolation and sound quality. They shouldn't sell these without those pads TBH.


Keeping in mind I like "fun" headphones and not monitors, I oscillate between Plantronics Backbeat Pro (one of the best sounding BT headphones I've heard with a phenomenal range and hellaciously cheap, but fugly and with round pads that don't really fit anyone), V-Moda M100s (add the fat pads to these too for comfort and sound; they'll last forever--built like a tank), and Master and Dynamic MH40s. (by far the nicest pair aesthetically with real leather pads, and they sound great if you can get a good seal, but I'm not a huge fan of cables anymore).


I do have a JDS labs O2 amp+DAC setup. I use it with the M&Ds and the M100s sometimes since those are the two cabled headphones still in rotation. However, Apple headphone outputs have historically been good enough to not really benefit that much since all my headphones have lowish power requirements. Planars or some other "need a bunch of juice" headphones would be different.

nip 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Audio Technica ATH-A900
Ask HN: What does deliberate practice look like for computer programming?
84 points by tim_sw  2 days ago   33 comments top 21
taf2 2 days ago 0 replies      
I think you can divide programming up into a few areas.

1. Mechanics, how well can you navigate and type using the tools you have available. To practice this an easy thing to do is formatting your code without any automatic formatting. In vim for example, this helps you learn the commands.

2. Reasoning/problem solving. This one is harder to practice and really requires experience. Always have a project and spend time trying different solutions. A nice characteristic of software is you can usually just undo if something was wrong, so don't be afraid to experiment.

3. Research- it's safe to assume someone else already solved a problem. Use google to find their solution and read how they solved the problem. Never be afraid to open up someone else's code.

jerf 2 days ago 0 replies      
Doing things you've not done before that stretch you, then generally moving on after you've done the first 10% that teaches you 90% of what there is to know. (Numbers may not be precise.)

An incomplete lost: 3D graphics programming, write a compiler or interpreter, write an emulator (Gameboy is popular), write a web server starting from a socket, learn a new language paradigm, grab a raspberry pi and do something with gpio, find a friendly open source project and close some bugs, and so on.

I'm an advocate of the "T shape", where you are deep in one or two things ("pi shaped") but have dabbled in lots of things.

I would not that while katas as others suggest are not bad, they are usually count for just one skill. You may learn a lot of clever tricks and some useful math, but what you get out of them will plateau before you get to the end of the katas set.

andreasgonewild 2 days ago 0 replies      
It looks like, and is often accused of reinventing wheels. Forgetting that it's not about the wheels but what the designers learned from going through the motions. Writing code that you've never written before on a daily basis is a good start. The key is to keep raising the bar, keep questioning tools, frameworks and best practices; to never get stuck on auto-pilot. Solve problems you care deeply about; or if that isn't possible yet; practice on the road-blocks, divide and conquer. At least that's what it's like for me.
subwayclub 2 days ago 0 replies      
Programming more skillfully is primarily about making decisions on which feedback loops you pay attention to, and not getting stuck on ideas about feedback that seem momentarily fashionable or convenient, but lead to bad outcomes later.

Write prototyping code that solves an existing problem as nearly as you can manage, and then figure out how to improve it on one or more metrics:

* smaller SLOC (automatic programming, data abstractions, etc)

* better portability, fewer dependencies, simpler build processes

* better throughput, latency, or resource usage(memory, storage, bandwidth, energy)

* eliminate one or more classes of errors(e.g. off by ones, null dereferences)

* better user interfaces, better documentation and accessibility

* more efficient development of the prototype

* better working environment (workflow, tools and knowledge of the tools, automations for convenience)

Oftentimes, you can make one change and improve several metrics. Other times you sacrifice one to get others. There are bad tradeoffs like code golfing or premature optimization. Having the prototype already in hand is crucial in all cases since it gives you a spec to bump up against when you're at risk of falling off track. If you're more daring this can take the form of an existing shipping codebase.

whatismybrowser 2 days ago 3 replies      
This is more of a technique for learning than for practice... but one thing that I make a habit of when learning a new programming framework is deliberately typing out sample code that I've found in books or online instead of just copying and pasting it.

It's the equivalent of writing out notes by hand from a school textbook instead of just photocopying the pages... some how the process of actually re-typing it out causes it to stick in my mind better. And then later, when you're really "in the zone", you don't break your focus by needing to keep referring back to the book, it's already embedded in your muscle memory and you just keep plowing away.

neurocline 2 days ago 3 replies      
Deliberate practice in a nutshell - pick something that has a measurable outcome, have a target that is just slightly harder than is possible for you at the moment ("outside your comfort zone"), do it, then compare your measured results against your target, and then iterate.

I am not entirely sure deliberate practice works for programming. I've been following Anders Eriksson's work for 10+ years, and it seems most applicable when applied to domains that have a history of training. Want to learn how to sing really well? You can probably do it. Want to be the best basketball free-thrower in the world? Probably.

It's the lack of a body of trainers and training that hurt, because deliberate practice talks about having quantifiable goals and the ability to compare how you did it versus how it's supposed to be done. E.g. have a trainer in golf means the trainer can critique your strike.

If I ever figure out deliberate practice for programming, you can bet for damn sure I'll write a book.

segmondy 1 day ago 0 replies      
Code jam & katas are fine. But they are not deliberate practice. They are just exercises.

Deliberate practice is about working on your weak area till you're no longer weak in that area.

You MUST perform a retrospective on all your projects. Ask yourself what you struggle with often, what are your pain points? Identify them, then work on them. The mistake I often see is that most developers create more problems for themselves by attacking multiple problems at once. If you have XYZ problem, and you decide to use a new language, a new framework, a new cloud service/API, a new DB and a new design style you have never used before. You will never be sure your pain point.

What you must do in this world of too many choices is LEARN TO CONSTRAIN. Pick a language, DB, framework, etc that you know. Nothing should be new to you but the problem. Yes, it's true that your existing tools might not have everything you need. LEARN TO BE RESOURCEFUL. With that said, attack the problem, if you have any issues, it will be obvious and apparent.

Let's say you have a great project you understand through and through and you wish to learn a new DB. Keep all things constant, rewrite your old project and the only thing that should be new is the DB. Repeat till you master the DB.

You must limit your problem to ONE and ONLY ONE at a time. This allows you to measure and correct faster if on the wrong course.

dmux 2 days ago 0 replies      
I posted a link to a paper [0] about "Deliberate Performance" the other day that some may find useful. In that paper -- along with making the distinction between practice and performance -- they describe deliberate performance as:

>the effort to increase domain expertise while engaged in routine work activity.

They then go on to give four types of exercises to focus on:repetition, timely feedback, task variety, and progressive difficulty.

[0] http://peterfadde.com/Research/Deliberate_Performance-PI-101...

indescions_2017 2 days ago 0 replies      
Attempt one Google Code Jam problem per day. Allocate one hour of intense focus to get as far as you can. Solutions and winning code examples are also there if you get stuck!


siegecraft 2 days ago 1 reply      
You could try TDD katas (see http://osherove.com/tdd-kata-1/ for a starting point). For me, the value in this practice is becoming hyper-proficient with your chosen development environment, not neccesarily learning TDD well. TDD is just a good problem domain that enforces the rest. I think of it in terms of "mechanics" practice. How quickly can you add a new file to your project? How quickly can you integrate it into your workflow? Do you have a tightly focused write/run/debug loop? Are you proficient with keyboard shortcuts and templates or whatever else will accelerate your speed. It's about being able to keep up with your mind when you get into flow and are ready to crank out code.
jwilliams 2 days ago 0 replies      
I use a painting/art metaphor for my practice. Usually when i want to develop a new major function or approach - or adopt a new technology - I do a "sketch".

The sketch is a standalone project that embodies what I want to understand. It could be React with a basic router and a test framework. I'll iterate on that. Sometimes several times. Then I integrate into the projects I'm working on.

Usually this is verifiable in some form. Being reliably testable is one. But others could be micro-benchmark performance. Occasionally the aim is just to re-write in a different language.

In the future, if I wanted to make a structural change (e.g. a different router) - I'll go back to the sketch and make the change. Sometimes I also do a sketch from scratch. However, I find working on the original sketch informs changing the production code a lot better.

In "deliberate practice" terms that's a very macro-level approach, but it's a balance that's worked for me.

stephengillie 2 days ago 0 replies      
Code is both math and language.

- Deliberate literature practice involves as much (or more) reading as it does writing. Tangentially, code review is an important way to both learn how other people express ideas in other ways, and to learn new features and tricks to express yourself in a given language.

- Deliberate practice in mathematics begins with rote memorization, and later with repeated application of algorithms. So practice could first involve typing common algorithms, including brackets and other grammar, until they (e.g. a FOR loop) can be typed from memory. Or possibly automating this step, and practicing using the automation. Later practice could involve repeated application of algorithms - possibly algorithms of your own making.

reading-at-work 1 day ago 0 replies      
Not sure if linking to reddit is frowned upon here, but there's a great subreddit called r/dailyprogrammer which has fun coding challenges ranging from beginner to difficult. I've found they are great for practice because they have defined "success" states, they really make you think, and you can compare solutions with others in the comments. And you can use any language you want.
kleer001 2 days ago 0 replies      
Working through a new programming book?

Answering questions on Stack Exchange?

Watching marginally related recorded talks at conventions?

Focusing on the thing for an extended period of time while exploring new territory?

The muscles you're wanted to exercise are pattern recognition and lateral thinking, all in the problem solving family.

So, find a problem, them solve it.

OtterCoder 2 days ago 0 replies      
Excellent answers already. It also involves some time problem solving on the craft at large. Take some time reading the words of people who have innovated in the field and argued with their peers. See if you can work out where the champions of OOP pushed our understanding and where they failed. See if you can understand the functional programmers have created beauty out of chaos, and where they've drunk a little too much Kool-Ade. Once you've understood, write a few example programs in those styles and languages.

In understanding the radical designs and patterns that great coders have used and argued about, you'll see you own code style change, even unconsciously.

auganov 1 day ago 0 replies      
I have this tendency to get stuck in an incrementalist mode of coding where I'll unnecessarily "test" little changes before it really makes sense. Forcing myself to write out as much code as possible before running it, is a form of deliberate practice for me.
gdubs 1 day ago 0 replies      
Get a copy of SICP and do all the exercises (and or follow along with the MIT course videos on YouTube)
throwaway2016a 2 days ago 0 replies      
Hacker Rank practice problems
williamle8300 2 days ago 0 replies      
Believe yourself to be competent. Never believe yourself to be wise.
lhuser123 2 days ago 1 reply      
Excellent question. Looking forward to read all the answers.
zaptheimpaler 2 days ago 1 reply      
Deliberate practice for X literally means do thing X.. i think that is simple - the best way to get better at X is do X. So it really depends on what you want to get better at.

Practice for algorithms could mean doing a lot of leetcode/interview style algo problems.

Practice for working with large codebases means practicing reading/understanding code quickly. So maybe picking a large scary open source project and trying to make a contribution.

Reinventing wheels like andreasgonewild is the most useful and fun kind of practice IMO. Pick a cool technology and make it yourself from scratch. Maybe in a new area you know nothing about. A distributed KV store? A stack-based programming language? A code formatter?

If you develop something big like that, you will surely exercise all the muscles it takes to develop something. Reading too many tutorials or watching too many videos is narrowly exercising the "learning" muscle. Solving algorithmic puzzles is narrowly exercising the "CS fundamentals" muscle. But the best workout to prepare to chop wood is to chop wood.

Ask HN: Anyone Interested in Authoring/Collaborating on a Software Product?
19 points by zschuessler  22 hours ago   17 comments top 9
mattmanser 21 hours ago 1 reply      
Show HN is what you'd normally use. https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

Your homepage doesn't really tell me what this is, apart from it uses Git somehow. You told us ^^there, but not on the homepage.

Is it a RAD tool? A new alternative to something like meteor? What's it got to do with Sketch plugins?

waterside81 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm not sure who your target end-user is, but I think the focus on "git" both in your branding and explanation leads people to focus on that aspect rather than the (great) idea of having easy-to-use revision management for digital assets. How that's implemented (in this case, git) is irrelevant to a marketing manager or a creative who is supplying the content.

If developers are a large part of who you see as your end user, then sure, keep as is. But if they're not, I'd consider re-evaluating the use of git as your main selling point and highlight the "history tracking" aspect of the product.

sharemywin 22 hours ago 0 replies      
Have you thought about cutting your fee to 7% plus 3% to paypal or stripe and letting the author set a commission for affiliates. So if I offer 25% an affiliate would get 15%.
siddharthdeswal 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm a "product marketer", and this was difficult for me to understand. I don't know what this is for (after reading your opening comment), and I can't figure out what should I be doing. If you receive similar feedback from other marketers, maybe consider making it easier to understand?
brett40324 12 hours ago 0 replies      
Please just let me scroll down to some content first without choosing one of the 'im a' s.

Edit: To ask,

What prevents me from distributing products by allowing others to use my paid copy's machine as a remote? Am i missing something?

sharemywin 21 hours ago 0 replies      
And what would be really cool is to allow people to sell the resale rights. So, if I buy the rights I could make all future profits of the eBook, template, photo etc.
carussell 20 hours ago 1 reply      
This violates the Git trademark, which the team announced they would begin enforcing this year due to a proliferation of products and services naming themselves after Git. If you're going to move forward with this, you need to apply for permission to use the Git mark.
sharemywin 22 hours ago 1 reply      
so can I fork your product and sell it and split the fees?

or if I check in a rewrite of a paragraph and you approve the check in do I get a cut your future sales?

kumaranvpl 21 hours ago 0 replies      
Hi @zschuessler,

I am interested to collaborate. Please ping me at kumaranvpl@gmail.com

Ask HN: Has Google News Stopped Showing AMP Links for Anyone Else?
5 points by twobyfour  10 hours ago   2 comments top
bkmartin 9 hours ago 1 reply      
I noticed this yesterday...I thought maybe I fell into some A/B test.
Ask HN: Do any of you do data science as a hobby?
33 points by RealAnalysis  1 day ago   15 comments top 7
minimaxir 1 day ago 1 reply      
While working as a Software QA Engineer at Apple, I wrote a large amount of statistical blog posts to get a breadth of skills outside of my role (story: http://minimaxir.com/2017/05/leaving-apple/)

I did have a statistical background before starting at Apple however. Most of my projects were self-taught and done as self-research (I am not a fan of the take-a-million-MOOCs strategy everyone likes).

cuchoi 1 day ago 2 replies      
With a team of data-scientists-as-a-hobby, we are building www.17-56.cl, which displays insights from data about Chile. It is in Spanish, but feel free to look around. For example, I created a map that displays the votation in the Chilean primary elections: http://fernandoi.cl/mapascomunales/primarias/primarias.html. Simple, but informative and fun.

Probably as a hobby you will not be able to write an analysis that will get published in a paper, but there is a lot of descriptive analysis out there that can be very interesting.

riku_iki 16 hours ago 0 replies      
My project is https://finintelligence.com

It provides access to public/private companies financials, documents search and some custom reports. I have tons of ideas in my mind: configurable stream of companies events, alerts, intelligent search for companies data, etc.

I launched it just about a month ago, so it is still in a semi-stealth prototype mode, but I am happy to receive any feedback, feature requests and first real users )

gesman 1 day ago 1 reply      
Built model + app (Splunk app) to predict medicare and opioid prescription fraud based on published medicare claims datasets at data.cms.gov
thenomad 1 day ago 0 replies      
Yup, from time to time. I also use data science in one side of my business (online marketing), but as a hobby I periodically do data analysis of the computer game DOTA2.

There's a large (huge, actually) available dataset, and lots of interesting information you can mine comparatively easily.

RealAnalysis 1 day ago 1 reply      
I'm really just wanting to do my own self research on topics and datasets that seem interesting, but also want to ensure the analysis im doing is sound.
SirLJ 19 hours ago 0 replies      
Absolutely, been doing it for years with stock market data and Python - developing trading algos and very successfully I might add, actually I can retire tomorrow, but every year I am postponing, because of the team I lead...
Ask HN: How long did it take you to go from side project idea to launch?
85 points by igammarays  19 hours ago   77 comments top 36
thinbeige 18 hours ago 2 replies      
The problem is not the actual dev time of a serious side project like a SaaS. Even if it just takes you three months to get to some sellable product with payment integration, etc.--the much bigger problem is that you need multiple shots to get it right (find the right market niche, the right product, the right angle, the right Marketing, the right growth channels, etc.). Then, after more than just three months and many attempts + pivots you just don't have the energy/time/money to keep up. Of course you can clone some proven model but then you face lots of competition which doesn't make success more probable.

People who are succesful did 99 mediocre side projects before they hit the jackpot. But it still took them tons of time and energy. Very often a overlooked by-product which was developed over night and benefitted from all prior experiences will be the cash cow while the main project which took 12 months still hasn't won any users.

Most stop at some point because it's just tough, especially the mental part.

hugs 17 hours ago 1 reply      
For me, there's about 4 months between idea and first public launch. But another4 years between that first launch to deciding to build a company around it. The time between 4 months and 4 years involves building a community, helping users, and improving the core product...

My personal examples:

Launched Selenium as an open source project in 2004.Founded Sauce Labs Inc ("Selenium in the cloud") in 2008. (Sauce makes roughly ~$25MM a year now. https://www.inc.com/profile/sauce-labs)

Launched Tapster (then called "Bitbeambot") as an open source project in 2011.Founded Tapster Robotics, Inc. in 2015. (Not disclosing revenue at the moment, but still going strong!)

To echo some other comments, I also have many other side-projects (some posted to GitHub, but even more unpublished) that never went anywhere. Success is a combination of luck, timing, ABC (Always Be Creating), stubbornness/persistence, and getting feedback from as many people as possible.

coderholic 17 hours ago 2 replies      
I launched the first version of https://ipinfo.io a few hours after having the idea - but it was just a super simple webpage at the time. I added the API within a few weeks I think, and that's when it started to take off. It was probably around a year before I added paid plans though, and another year before it started bringing in decent revenue, and then another year before I started working full time on it. See https://getputpost.co/from-side-project-to-250-million-daily... for some of the story.

I've worked on tons of side projects before this (most unsuccessful, some with some success - busmapper.co.uk, donothingfor2minutes.com). My advice would definitely be to launch early and improve things over time.

HugoDaniel 18 hours ago 2 replies      
I quit my job in May 2016 (15 months ago) to work on an idea (a painting web app). Unfortunately I was also trying to earn money with any sort of side-kick jobs (teaching) and the idea never got the attention it deserved. It got a few turns and twists after an initial demo to some designer friends in December 2016.

I have since then managed to get some funding and have been working on it more seriously for the past 4 months (since may 2017). In two weeks I will have another closed alpha-demo that is then going to be used to produce a video for the landing page, and opened to the public if there is no big bashing from my zen target audience friends.

It does seem like a huge desert to cross. Motivation comes and goes. In the meantime I managed to kill my desire to feature creep it to death and learned a lot about the fine art of listening/ignoring the target audience requests. I know for sure that my approach for my next project is going to be completely different than my current one. But in the meantime the rent is due :)

The landing page:https://www.pixnit.com

My blog with some thoughts on the bootstrapping experience: http://www.hugodaniel.pt

ploggingdev 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Not a SaaS, but I'm working on a blogging platform for developers : https://www.ploghub.com/ . To use an analogy : Medium for developers without the dickbar. It took me around one month to build the initial version. The front page uses a dumbed down version of the HN algorithm. Code here (need to add test cases) : https://github.com/ploggingdev/ploghub

For my next project, I plan to build an alternative to Disqus which respects users' privacy. I removed Disqus from my blog a while due to the 2 MB junk it loads and sends tracking data to 10+ sites. I used to receive a few comments, so I thought I would build myself an alternative to Disqus and maybe turn it into a SaaS if there's demand for such a product. Any interest for a $10/month privacy respecting Disqus alternative + an open source code base?

I expect it to take me 2 to 3 weeks to build it. As you build more projects, you end up with a lot of reusable components, so it gets easier to build out the MVP. The real challenge for developers is to get users. This is something I don't have much experience with, so let's see how it goes.

mattbeckman 17 hours ago 1 reply      
Depends on what you're building, of course, but seriously consider if what you're building is an MVP or not.

My most successful side-project has been the one where I didn't start out by using design patterns or TDD or fancy fun new languages as we do at my full-time job.

Instead, I spewed code vomit on the virtual floor of a tiny VPS, wrote most of it via SSH, and felt shame when users started using it because holy hell if they only knew what was underneath all that.

But ... that MVP generates income. Not quit-my-job income. But it's steady, and doesn't require a lot of changes. I plan on rebuilding it soon, as I need a better code base to handle upcoming plans. However, that embarrassingly messy hodgepodge has been running for a year, making money.

Good luck!

danthelion 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Around 1 month total time since the idea, 2-3 days net dev time.


I wanted to learn Django and wanted to start with something fairly easy. I don't really have any idea how and where to promote it, didn't get much attention in my `Show HN` thread and most subreddits remove it because of the affiliate links to amazon.

Other than that it was a fun experience and at least I can say that Django is a great framework to work with!

goodnews3879 17 hours ago 0 replies      
There seems to be a prevailing idea among startup people that if you can't get an MVP up and running in ~3 months or less, it isn't worth doing. I have heard this exact statement made on a few of the well known podcasts.

The reality is that not every concept is going to get the low hanging fruit, and for many people real life gets in the way. Plus, for some people the journey of learning is just as important as launching the product.

It might be worth considering that you shouldn't stress out if it takes longer than the conventional advice might dictate.

nikivi 18 hours ago 2 replies      
It took about a month to built the initial prototype for the Search Engine we are building.


We had the interactive mind maps as JSON already however we needed to display them on the web in a nice interface so we made a react component to render the JSON to the screen.


Overall it took about a month to do the whole thing and get a working prototype, the search engine improved a lot since then though.

guohuang 18 hours ago 1 reply      
1 week (mostly nights and weekend) - http://toptalkedbooks.com

Building a website is not the most painful part, promotion and getting traffic are the hardest, you have to be very determined. keep up the good work, don't give up.

anyone has any good advice on marketing?

wainstead 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I recommend "Start Small, Stay Small: A Developer's Guide to Launching a Startup," if you have not heard of it. He has some simple formulas for measuring how much you're trying to do and how long it will take, given that you have a full time job.
highace 18 hours ago 2 replies      
Two weekends for the MVP of https://newsapi.org. About 3 months so far for v2 - I'm building it out into a more featureful service that I'm hoping I can build a business around.
rwieruch 16 hours ago 1 reply      
3 Months. It highly depends on the project though.

For me, it was an e-book [0] that I wanted to write to teach others about React. The idea was to learn React while building an application that is more complex than a Todo Application.

So I took the first 3 months to write the initial draft - only 90 pages. I released it on Leanpub as an unfinished book, because it was painfully hard to keep going. Yet the community seemed to like it. It confirmed me being on the right track and my motivation went up again.

Since then I iterated 4 times to improve and enrich the learning experience and "released" it multiple times. I keep it updated to the recent library versions, best practices and new techniques with the help of the open source community. Now it has over 170 pages and over 11.000 downloads.

What helped in my case: Release early and improve/iterate based on the feedback.

- [0] https://www.robinwieruch.de/the-road-to-learn-react/

Zaheer 17 hours ago 0 replies      
6 months. I sat on the domain and an index.html file for months even though the idea was super simple. Partnering with a friend and holding each other accountable was the best thing to launch.

Compare career levels across companies - http://www.levels.fyi

AndrewKemendo 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Concept was May 2011, I wrote up the spec in Aug 2011 and we launched in May 2015. So about 4 years.
cityzen 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Biggest lesson I learned from building a SaaS side project that actually had revenue is this...

You cannot develop your way out of a marketing problem.

There will ALWAYS be technical problems to solve but it's all irrelevant if no one is using your product. Long development time also tends to create a familiarity with your product that users likely will not have, possibly ever.

I am a huge fan of Steve Blank's How to build a startup (which is free on udacity)https://www.udacity.com/course/how-to-build-a-startup--ep245

20years 18 hours ago 1 reply      
I have built multiple SaaS products. I spend about a month building the first version. I get that out in front of users and continue to build upon it if I see traction and based on feedback. If traction isn't there or it becomes obvious user won't pay, I generally move onto something else.

After the initial prototype, it generally takes another 3 to 4 months to build out a full fledged app that I can offer to the masses. It doesn't stop after that though. There is always more to develop and improve including a lot of re-factoring.

I currently have 4 SaaS products on the market and another one in the works.

cdibona 12 hours ago 0 replies      
So the game that my friend and I are funding and working on the side on (dunno if this fits your definition of side project, but a proper saas app is as complex) is entering it's third year and is about to hit mvp.

It is (unsurprising if you know us) a unreal front end with the back end hosting on Google cloud, we're using gke, datastore and cloudsql , with gae web front ends. We're coding in js, c++, Python and Java.

plug: http://fracturedveil.com/?m=hn

And yes, sometimes it feels glacial and I wish I could clone myself and move things forward much faster. But I actually like my day job, so...yeah.

tmaly 19 hours ago 0 replies      
I spent around 6 months for version 1 of my food project https://bestfoodnearme.com and another 3 months for an entire re-write of version 2. It is still a work in progress with small iterations. I would say launch with the bare features, not even password reset. Get feedback and keep iterating.

Make sure you have some form of analytics from the start so you can see what pages people are going to

pan69 14 hours ago 1 reply      
I spend a good 3 months on getting an initial version out of my latest side project called Postways [1] and launched it just before xmas last year. Since then I have been focusing on on-boarding users and just improving the service overall. Marketing it and connecting with an audience and potential customers is the real challenge.

I did everything myself. I have a number of great features in the works but for now I purposely want to keep the scope very focused around a core set of functionality so I don't mentally overload myself.

At some point I hope to afford to engage with a visual designer because I really think that having a great visual brand can make a real difference in whether or not potential customers landing on your home decide the signup or not.

[1] https://www.postways.com

ifend 18 hours ago 1 reply      
2 weeks -- http://www.backereta.com

Nobody uses it but it was a good learning experience.

seekbeak 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I made the initial version of https://seekbeak.com after about 3 or 4 months. It's been updates and additions for the past year now.

I'll echo the rest of the folks in here: Launch early, and add features as you go. I'd rather launch at 85% than never launch at 100%

Also, there is a fine line between an initial launch which is missing a few fancy features, and an embarrassing clusterfuck. So make sure that the site/app is totally functional, and as bug free as you can be. Then you can get to work on adding all the bells and whistles which are buzzing around your head!

lpa22 18 hours ago 1 reply      
6 weeks of after work/weekends for the first iteration in website form, and another 6 weeks for iOS App second iterationhttps://www.theroseleague.com

Shameless plug, if you or anyone you know enjoys The Bachelor series then this product is for them.

Huhty 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Over 15 months, and we didn't get our blogging and social media going until approx 3-4 months left until launch. And I regret not starting it sooner.

Start your blogging and social media ASAP, because it takes some time for SEO to kick in. Get collecting emails so you can launch to an audience. Don't leave it until after launch, you will regret it.

Our SaaS is at http://blogenhancement.com and the blog is at http://blogenhancement.com/blog/ if you want to take a look at what we've been up to.

Cheers, and good luck in your journey!

ezekg 19 hours ago 0 replies      
I spent ~6 months building the initial version, then ran a 3 month beta (should have just launched here as beta didn't have a lot of usage), and finally launched about 3 months ago. All in all, I've been working on it for over a year. GitHub says first commit was May 22, 2016.
graystevens 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Looking at my domain whois... 6 months. As others have said, at this point it probably isn't an MVP any more (bad creator!), but it is very close to a release in the next few weeks. Honestly looking forward to getting it out there and seeing what people think.


I'd argue it wouldn't have taken the full 6 months if this had been my sole effort, but with a full-time job, a young family to support, and finishing another site-project for a friend, I think 6 months isn't bad.

dabockster 15 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey HN,

As someone who is thinking about attempting to monetize some side projects, should I incorporate a company before I begin? Or is it ok to just publish things on my own?

discordianfish 17 hours ago 1 reply      
I've just launched latency.at and I've started working on it about a year ago but in the beginning worked only a few hours per week in my spare time on it. In the past months I put more time in it while freelancing the other days.And yes, I felt exactly the same. The core piece was literally done in a day, but everything around it took forever. Happy it's "done enough" to finally launch it. But now the next hard part: Find (paying) users.
samayshamdasani 15 hours ago 1 reply      
It originally took me a weekend to get the basic site done. Then, after I saw it's potential, I've been working on it more extensively.

I built a site to teach people to code by building projects: https://enlight.ml

TheFullStack 17 hours ago 0 replies      
This took about 4 months from idea to first real user registrations: https://www.turbo360.co

That was back in June or so. Since then, have made many many changes based on user feedback so the current iteration is more like the cumulative work of 6 months.

ratsimihah 16 hours ago 0 replies      
About 5 months because I spent a lot of time playing around.I'm doing everything myself: dev, UI/UX, marketing, paperwork.


RikNieu 18 hours ago 0 replies      
My last one's not a saas, it's a simple job board, but it took me 3 weeks working some evenings and weekends.


golson 16 hours ago 1 reply      
My first major project, https://www.kindmind.com: about 6 months of nights-and-weekends work before public launch. It's a private online therapy journal for getting things off your chest.

Now going on two years of development (just me) and loving every minute of it. Yes, it's painfully slow at times. Finding users is really freakin' hard. But the satisfaction of people using something I made makes it all worth it.

sjs382 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Not from idea to launch as I spend a lot of time daydreaming about projects before I begin work, but SendToMyCloud.com and PrivateForms.com both took less than a month to build, part-time.
reiichiroh 17 hours ago 0 replies      
"ideation" is a real word?
SirLJ 19 hours ago 2 replies      
took me approx 2.5 years from the idea (of beating the stock market, trough losing money left and right, stopping and developing an edge) to building the system to algo trade constantly...
Ask HN: How much do you save in the SF Bay Area with $120k salary?
47 points by symbolepro  9 hours ago   55 comments top 13
jcims 7 hours ago 4 replies      
I'm going crazy trying to sort through this. Got a job offer with one of the big bay area companies. $140K base + bonus/stock to get to $210K. Doesn't seem like enough to move my family there from the midwest, so I'm about to say no because I can't make it work (while saving for retirement/paying for college/etc) on $200K per year? WTF?
patapscoBM 6 hours ago 3 replies      
Apologies for the throwaway, and numbers are rough


 - 1500/mo in 401k - 6200 after-tax, after 401k income - 2800 savings from after-tax income - Total discounted savings/mo, roughly: 2800 + .85 * 1500 = 4075
Is the bay area cost of living expensive? Absolutely. But I'd argue if you're a generally frugal person you'll save more (in absolute terms) here than anyplace else. I doubt I could get much above $100k anywhere else but NYC.

nicolashahn 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I live in San Francisco and have made 120k for the last year (just recently got a raise to 130k). I don't have a family to support, and live with friends renting a bedroom for 1600/mo in a 4br in Bernal Heights (I prefer to live with people, so not having a 1br apartment downtown helps a lot).

My take home is around 77k annually and I got about 1300 back from taxes last year. I eat out/go to bars a couple times a week, but mainly try to cook for myself. I have a few hobbies that eat money and I end up spending a couple hundred at least every month on them. I travel every 3-4 months, have gone to Seattle, NY, Vancouver, LA in the last year.

With all this I've still saved somewhere between 30-35k. I also bought a motorcycle with all the crap that comes with that (gear, insurance, parts, etc) in that period, so if I hadn't then I'd probably have another 8k or so.

I honestly make more than enough money to live comfortably and when I moved to the city I was only making 80k and my rent was the same. I still felt I had enough to live comfortably but I wasn't able to save nearly as much.

120k will be fine as a single person in SF. If you have a family maybe not.

orange_county 6 hours ago 2 replies      
Make 110k, take home around 4800 month after taxes and maxed out 401k.

Rent $1600 in SF (lucky here). But I still have over $2k month after all expenses. As a single person, I consider myself fortunate.

People will complain about living expenses but they need to calculate the income - expenses plus what the area you want to live in. City living isn't always a viable option for people. Whereas some people love it.

I don't think I can find any urban city that I can live in and find myself in a situation where I can bank more than $2k a month after expenses and maxed out 401k.

SoCal was an option for me. However I hate the suburbs, hate having a car and the salaries for new grads were 50-80k where most rents were still at least $1300.

sjswe 7 hours ago 1 reply      
At $115K, I take home about $5.5K/month, of which I save about $2.5K.
slad 5 hours ago 1 reply      
Interesting comments but curious to know from the perspective of racism and related issues. As an Immigrant from India, and Living in California (for over 10 years) at this time seems to be best bet from that perspective.

With expanding family, I have been contemplating a lot to move outside of CA for cost saving but thoughts about racial issues plaguing the country just makes me nervous.

matchagaucho 7 hours ago 0 replies      
It's really a housing and commute question. Living one hour away from work can reduce cost of living by 25%.

But quality of life with that much commuting (?) :-/

simplydt 6 hours ago 1 reply      
I don't live there but saw this and thought it might help (shows salaries around the world adjusted for cost of life, I found it accurate for London and Berlin).


trjordan 6 hours ago 3 replies      
Unfortunately, you're not going to get an exact answer here, because everybody's lifestyle is slightly different. However, you can guess what's going to be the big changes in your budget. I think there will be 4:

1) Your take-home pay will change. Use a calculator for you exact number, but according to [1], a single person will take home about $6,400 / month.

2) Unless you live in Manhattan, your rent will dramatically increase. Like everywhere, there's a huge range. Want to live in Oakland with a roommate and bike to BART? You could probably find $1,500 / month. Want a new construction 2 bedroom downtown or close to Caltrain on the peninsula? $5,000 / month. Houses can easily run $8,000 / month with mortgage + taxes if you can scrape together the $300k down payment. Look around on Zillow and ballpark it.

3) Eating "nice" food out isn't cheap. There's plenty of good, cheap eats, but if you're thinking date night, it's easy to drop $120 for 2 people then go off and order half a dozen $8 beers. The high end is really bad -- there's a bunch of amazing restaurants that are $75 - $100 for 6-8 courses. If you're moving from a small city, these simply don't exist. This might be a shock if you're used to eating at "the best place in town" for a special occasion.

4) Depending on where you are in life, there's a bunch of family-ish things that can really eat up a budget. Dog walkers are $20 / day. Infant day care is $2,000 / month. Getting around is kind of a pain if you don't exclusively live, work, and play in the city, which can be fixed by giving Uber $25 / ride. And unlike other cities, there isn't anything that's remarkably cheap (e.g. when I lived in VA, groceries were like half the price I expected. It was great.)

Ultimately, though, a lot of people make it work. The networking and career attitudes in tech are unmatched (I moved from Boston at age 30), the weather is great, and it turns out that a bunch of my friends who I thought had disappeared had just moved out here and they all hang out.

If you're just in it for the money, it's a close call. Your best bet is to work out here between age 22 and when you have kids, then move somewhere affordable with the $5mil you made during that time. But that's not exactly why I moved here -- I've learned more in the last 2 years than I thought possible, and I've fundamentally altered the arc of my career. I may leave at some point, but I'm glad I moved out here.

[1] https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-paycheck-calculator

et-al 6 hours ago 0 replies      
linkregister had a conservative breakdown of a fresh graduate saving $1k/month:


Numbers are from a year ago, but rents haven't increased too much since then, and we had assumed the grad's salary was $100k.

tedsanders 6 hours ago 1 reply      
I spend $1150 on rent. $100 on utilities. $300 on food. $150 on transportation. Plus a few hundred for annual expenses of flying home and buying new clothes. Adds up to a little over 20k per year.

Plenty of families in the Bay Area earn less than $120k and get by. I feel very fortunate to earn more.

maxwin 7 hours ago 2 replies      
would be curious to know take home pay (120k minus tax) as well
Maro 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey, I was in a similar situation 2 years ago when I had a similar offer from one of Facebook, although in the high-cost European city of London.Pros:

- you will learn a lot at these companies

- you will work with very smart people, which is a great experience

- your expectations (toward yourself, your peers, the product you're working on) will be torn apart and recalibrated at a much higher level, which is a good thing

- working on products that are used by 100s millions / billions of people is a positive human experience because you're helping give people services that improve their lives (buying books so they can learn to program, building products so they can keep in touch with their loved ones, helping them find information on the web, etc.)

But, keep in mind:

- these are big companies, so the peopleware is slow: getting promoted takes time and depends on a myriad of factors outside your control; don't _count_ on it [in the first 2 years]

- the signing/relocation bonus won't be around in year#2, so dependending on how much of a refresher you get, you could make less in year#2

- stock prices fluctuate! it could go down 30% (as well as up 70%) in the next 9 months; as a rule of thumb, make sure your base salary covers living expenses

- as a rule of thumb, assume your refresher grant will be 1/2 of the initial stock grant, and has the same vesting schedule; use Quora to get more details on your specific company, or ask a friend who works there

- be sure to use the correct tax rates (also for stocks) when net'ing the offer numbers (look out for federal and state taxes, income vs cap.gains)

- if you're a software engineer, the offer numbers seems a bit low vs your 20 years of experience for SV, esp. the stock part

--- either this company pays less than others or they're under-leveling you

--- if you care, ask your recruiter what level they put you at

--- there's rational reasons for these big tech companies to under-level people with lots of experience, which is that they have their own internal stack and ways of doing things, plus they're very good at spinning people up in their bootcamp programs, so they don't care _that_ much about prior experience

- if you take the offer, you will probably soon meet people at the company (or in SV) who are doing roughly the same job as you are, are a _lot_ younger, but have _significantly_ better packages because they had better signaling (went to top uni, had competing offers); depending on who you are, this may end up bothering you

Another thing to consider: many of these companies also have offices in the US, but outside of SV, eg. Seattle, Washington, Texas, NYC, where I believe they offer roughly the same packages, but cost of living / commutes are much more reasonable.

Good luck!

Docker container to tweet at your ISP when your speed drops below threshold
5 points by monoxane  14 hours ago   21 comments top 6
msh 1 hour ago 0 replies      
How does it know you are not filling up the pipe yourself?
goralph 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Since you're using docker for educational purposes, just a tip. You have multiple `RUN` commands. Each command will create an individual docker layer, causing your image to take up unnecessary amounts of space.

Instead you should run all of the bootstrap (apt-get, etc) under a single run, using `&&` to chain commands.

grizzles 13 hours ago 0 replies      
This is cool. I periodically have a related idea that coincides with my isp downtime. I once had 3 straight weeks of downtime.

It's an app to monitor a connection for downtime and give exact reports for when the connection is down. Then treat the data collection server as a quasi political group and use the data to push the FTC, ACCC, etc to force ISPs to give pro-rata refunds for these downtime and or substandard speed periods. Nothing would speed up a fix like lost $$.

sigjuice 13 hours ago 2 replies      
Docker is a bit of an overkill for such a tiny app IMHO
mistat 14 hours ago 1 reply      
I can only imagine the posts if people with NBN use this
stephenr 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Using fucking docker to run a python script that tweets about poor network performance is the epitome of technical irony.

Although, on the upside we've finally found something that can be referenced for X in the statement "well at least Electron apps aren't as bad as $X"

Ask HN: How did you get your first paying customers?
22 points by designerlye  1 day ago   12 comments top 11
nickswan 15 hours ago 0 replies      
I built up a list of early access users for www.sanitycheck.io from a small Twitter following, small podcast listenership, and two seo Facebook groups I was a member of. Got about 50 users in total. 9 months of being in beta and then switched on pricing and got first 10 customers from that.
RedneckBob 1 day ago 0 replies      
You should have customers before launch. Read the first four chapters of: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Steps-Epiphany-Steve-Blank/dp/09...
dnh44 1 day ago 0 replies      
I had an ongoing relationship with a company and got them to pay a deposit for a product before we even started the company.

We would not have started the company without that deposit and I would have done something else in that case.

Anyway I think you should know who your first paying customers are going to be before you start anything. But don't take anyones word for anything. Lots of people will say "yeah I'll buy that if you make it" but not everyone will follow through.

AznHisoka 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I found people who shared content from my competitors and sent them cold emails using BuzzSumo http://buzzsumo.com
fairpx 1 day ago 1 reply      
For my latest business (a productised service that provides unlimited UI design for software teams http://fairpixels.pro) I simply contacted my previous customers.

It's surprising how many of us are always looking for new customers, when sometimes, contacting people who you already have a relationship with works best.

Even if it's your first business. Maybe you know a few folks from your previous job, an internship. These people already trust you, know you and interacted with you before... the easiest way to get your first customer, I think, is through the network you already have.

Browse through your phone and email contacts. Your first customers and users might be sitting in your pocket as we speak :)

graystevens 1 day ago 0 replies      
A recent HN discussion which may help:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14191161
wingerlang 1 day ago 0 replies      
I the first costumers almost by just releasing the app, because the community was small and anything "new" would definitely sell at least 1 copy.

The product(s) being of high quality still have sales after some years.

jwilliams 1 day ago 0 replies      
B2B SaaS - Used networks, cold emails and showing up (cities, events, conferences). For everyone you meet, ask for a referral to someone else at the end. When you have an idea that has some level of product-market fit, that should be enough to get traction.
malux85 1 day ago 0 replies      
My very first startup I was naive and just did cold calling. Got a huge number of no's (200+) before getting a yes.

Next time I'm much smarter, seek partnerships and even better if your product is an upsell, then you can have others sell it for you

AznHisoka 1 day ago 0 replies      
I used social media to find influencers who could help promote my product using tools like CrowdTangle and Followerwonk
brianwawok 1 day ago 0 replies      
Met a guy on a relevant reddit :)
Ask HN: Who have the best paying (tech related) affiliate programs?
18 points by softwareqrafter  1 day ago   3 comments top 3
fairpx 1 day ago 0 replies      
I think OP is asking for products/businesses who are providing an affiliate program. The word 'best' should probably be translated to: "who pays the highest commission".
thenomad 1 day ago 0 replies      
You might want to look through ShareASale's catalog - they have a lot of tech-related affiliate programs running through their system, and you'll be able to compare them.
cm2012 1 day ago 0 replies      
You're not going to find a successful affiliate marketer willing to share his or her niche.
Ask HN: What is this new offline support trend?
6 points by tarikozket  19 hours ago   10 comments top 4
dhaspden 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Not everybody lives in large urban areas where Internet is an almost guarantee. I myself live in a remote area of Ontario where coverage can be spotty at times. It's nice to have a fallback to offline storage when I don't have access. Not everybody is willing to pay for a data plan as well.
sova 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Because:1) subway trains have no wifi2) concrete and refrigerators block signals3) data is expensive4) once I have all the data from the site, I want to read and play on it without necessarily updating every micromove with a ping and response5) some services don't need real-time call-and-response. Would you want wikipedia live updating every paragraph when all you want to do is read an article?
johnmurch 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Take a trip to NYC and jump on the subway, tons of time you are offline yet have time on your side.
dabockster 18 hours ago 1 reply      
I do not know what you mean. Can you be a little more specific?
Ask HN: Part-time Developers
7 points by craigkilgo  19 hours ago   3 comments top 2
taprun 16 hours ago 0 replies      
It would be harder to extract unpaid overtime, coordinate meeting and facilitate cross training. Not only that, but it's more difficult to manage and allocate folks when there are four 1/2 time workers instead of 2 full timers.
meric 12 hours ago 1 reply      
You have a team of 4, 2 of them work Monday, Tuesdays, 2 of them work Thursdays, Fridays. How to manage?
Ask HN: What is the best HN like site for crypto currencies?
12 points by scottkclark  1 day ago   9 comments top 7
elorm 1 day ago 0 replies      
As far as I'm aware, Cryptopanic[0] is the only decent news aggregator but it doesn't have HN-like discussion features.

News in the cryptocurrency community can be extremely unreliable and designed to influence trading negatively or positively so most people stick to sources they can really trust.

Day/Swing Traders - They use Telegram channels(Whalepool, Whaleclub, Bitstash, Coinfarm) for their discussions and pick their news from subreddits(r/btc, r/bitcoin, r/bitcoinmarkets, r/Ethereum, r/ethtrader).

Developers - Slack and Telegram. Reddit and Twitter for their news


ploika 1 day ago 1 reply      
The Financial Times' Alphaville blog is my favourite. Free to read once you register.

It's not exclusively crypto-related, but they dedicate substantial coverage to developments in the whole crypto/blockchain/ICO space.

They generally approach it from a finance point of view, so it's required reading if you're interested in anything more than just the technological aspects.


nicklo 1 day ago 0 replies      
Check out http://reddit.com/r/cryptomarkets. Lots of good discussion (just ignore the HODL/moon trolls).
richardknop 1 day ago 0 replies      
General crypto subreddits: /r/bitcoin, /r/ethereum

Subreddits for daily traders: /r/bitcoinmarkets, /r/ethtrader

scottkclark 1 day ago 1 reply      
What are the best resources, web sites, blogs etc for understanding what is happening in the crypto-currency world?
dabockster 1 day ago 0 replies      
None at the moment...

Brb, building HN for crypto.

imaginenore 1 day ago 0 replies      
Various Reddit subs.
Ask HN: What is the future of browsers?
14 points by skdjksjdksjdk  1 day ago   16 comments top 13
csense 12 hours ago 0 replies      
My favorite browser?

Ability to set ceiling for memory usage and bandwidth per tab. It has traditional boxy 1990's style design, a traditional File, Edit, etc., none of this hamburger menu crap. It suspends or kills background tabs.

An empty browser uses 1MB of memory or less. A full browser never uses more than 256MB of memory.

In addition to JavaScript, it supports a compiled language out of the box, like Java, but open source, secure, and non-bloated.

It has "skinny goggles" which let you trim the fat from webpages, removing unnecessary CPU, bandwidth and memory usage while keeping the site readable.

Audio and video content is blocked in each tab until you specifically allow it.

erikpukinskis 1 day ago 2 replies      
To some extent, you can look at mobile app platforms for guidance:

- identity service

- payment services

- 3D positioning data, including 6DOF

- hand tracking and object tracking (AR)

In terms of future-y stuff, I can see some sort of blockchain integration, like CloudStorage as an IPFS version of LocalStorage. That would potentially need to dovetail with the identity and payment stuff.

I suspect as we get deeper into AR times, some kind of device-relative geo services will need to be necessary. Like, give me a list of services that are within 1 foot, 20 feet, and 1000 feet respectively.

Personally, I also think the browser is ready to make the leap to a kind of raw metal relationship with hardware. ChromeOS is an example of this, Firefox OS was an attempt. I'd like to see more specialized OS's that can boot hardware directly to the web. The security models on Mac and Windows are slowly approaching something more like the web anyway, where apps run in a sandbox. Web pages have been doing that forever, so it seems like a good fit for a security-conscious OS.

A mobile headset would be a good opportunity for such an OS to differentiate itself. Which leads me to...

The other huge opportunity I think is in web "filters". We've gotten to the point now that there's just a lot of crap out there, and with ad blockers and readability filters we've started to dabble in a meta layer. I think a future web browser will go full meta, where by default you don't see the actual web page, you see a thumbnail and a bunch of views on the data in that web page, and you only dip down into the giant messy interactive ad-riddled view if you want to.

Past endeavors include the whole space of web annotation, semantic web, etc. Not sure why none of that has taken off, but seems like something that will find product market fit eventually.

One of those "filters" could be an AR filter. Take a web page and map it into AR space. Also VR. Add avatars of other people around the content. But there should be a whole marketplace of filters, language translation, low power filter, etc. Opera was doing some version of that. You could have political filters too. "Block all misogyny", "Add Fox News' take", "Keep everything tidy and German" etc.

A lot of this marks a general transition from a site POV to a user POV for the browser.

If anyone wants consultation on any of these ideas, I'm available for hire. :)

dabockster 1 day ago 0 replies      
Hopefully there will be more browsers/engines than just 2-3 large ones. I know that will make web dev difficult, but it will encourage the most innovation online.

I'm sick of having to choose between either Firefox, Edge, or a thousand Chrome knockoffs. There needs to be more diversity.

osrec 1 day ago 0 replies      
I think the main browsers will continue to dominate (it's tough work to launch and maintain a browser, so there's a high bar to entry). I feel native features will continue to be exposed via the browser, and eventually, I can see web apps eventually replacing their native counterparts. I am personally a big fan of web apps, and prefer them to native downloads that highjack my phone or computer - browsers just need to be careful to manage permissions to intrusive APIs in a sensible manner.
NikolaeVarius 1 day ago 0 replies      
I would love a browser that didn't take 100mb of memory per tab. Though I'm not sure how much of that is to blame on the browser/plugins or the webpage.
srcmap 1 day ago 0 replies      
Love to the Servo from Mozilla take over the world soon.
TomMarius 1 day ago 1 reply      
I would love a way to ditch HTMl/CSS and use a thin abstraction on top of native GUI toolkits (WinAPI, Qt, Gtk, Cocoa...) instead.
llccbb 1 day ago 0 replies      
I have been enjoying using selenium as a programmatic interface with the browser. Hopefully more of that!
fairpx 1 day ago 0 replies      
I think the best part of the browser are the extensions and plugins people make.
jlebrech 1 day ago 0 replies      
a web os, basically a browser will be something like android but without needing to download an app first.
imaginenore 1 day ago 0 replies      
Browsers seem to be converging.

It's quite obvious that they will all implement next JS standards, with some experiments here and there.

They will add API access to more hardware like VR helmets, controllers, maybe even USB devices (which would be great for web hardware based security, like 2FA).

Probably voice control and typing (like on Android).

Probably automatic translation (not just by Google).

Built-in free VPN (limited obviously) and TOR would be nice.

trentmb 1 day ago 0 replies      
maxk42 1 day ago 0 replies      
Ask HN: Which remote-first company has the most revenue?
13 points by syedkarim  1 day ago   4 comments top 3
TommyBombadil 1 day ago 1 reply      
No idea about their revenue, but Automattic (wordpress.com, etc...) might be a good candidate with 584 employees:



late2part 9 hours ago 0 replies      
CrowdStrike is remote first, and as far as I know, we don't publish our headcount or revenue, but we should be in the upper echelon of this group.
AznHisoka 1 day ago 0 replies      
Buffer - $12M annual revenue (although they did have offices originally, I believe). BuzzSumo - $5M annual revenue. CrowdTangle - before they got acquired by FB.
Ask HN: Where to start with CSS?
24 points by xenopticon  2 days ago   8 comments top 7
dyeje 1 day ago 0 replies      
I attended both of these talks and found them very enlightening. My team hired a CSS expert to do some part time implementation work and evaluate our practices. I was pleasantly surprised when his analysis of our codebase was very positive.

To me, the key is to think of everything in your app as a component. You should be able to drop the component into more or less any context and it should 'just work'. Following the ideas in the videos will help you accomplish that on the CSS side.

CSS is a Mess - Jonathan Snooks (ex-Lead Frontend Developer Shopify)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAcW-wOFYjw

CSS for Engineers - Keith J Grant (NYSE Engineer, author of CSS in Depth)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-9Tn6AetYA

codegeek 2 days ago 0 replies      
I really like http://cssreference.io

They have a visual guide which shows you what it looks like along with code on side.

ninjaofawesome 1 day ago 0 replies      
You may want to look into Sass (SCSS). It makes your code reusable and extendable via variables, mixins, loops, if/else statements- its quite robust.

Another suggestion, such as SMACSS is BEM (my personal favorite), as it flattens out your styling to prevent over specificity and makes everything clean and neat. (Check it out here: http://getbem.com/)

Ultimately though, what I've found reduces messes is to think of the end product before beginning. If you have the luxury of starting with a fresh codebase, think of the end product and its styling before starting- much like you would with any other set of features in any other language.

If you're walking in to legacy code, try to avoid the "one-offs". Sure, they solve the problem now, but its making a mess for future you to clean up as well as being a potential code smell. Leave your code a little better than when you came in and you'll be thanking yourself later.

Good luck!

cag_ii 2 days ago 1 reply      
I think the SMACSS doc is worth a read:


LarryMade2 2 days ago 0 replies      
One trick I just learned is you can combine classes - when setting class in a property put in multiple classes by separating the names with a space. i.e. <div class="manny moe jack">web stuff</div> Now you can pull apart the unique bits from the reusable ones.

Other than that a lot of my CSS cleanup happens in refactoring the layout

maxharris 2 days ago 0 replies      
Ask HN: Who is working on services?
28 points by tylerdiaz  2 days ago   9 comments top 6
onli 2 days ago 1 reply      
Doesn't that happen very often, that people work on such services?

I'm part of a small team that works on portier[0], which is what one could see as open source alternative to Auth0 (it's not the same thing, and it is more inspired by Mozilla Persona, but close enough). It's a service, as we run a broker online for everyone who wants using it, and the whole concept is having self-hostable brokers that handle the login of users (via email or Openid).

But: While that broker has a proper and simple API one can use to use the service with every language, it is still so much easier to just include a library/module that does that for you. Interpreting the jwt, fetching the jwk to check the signature, packing the request to the broker properly. We currently have one for Python, node, php and ruby/sinatra. They are not all at the same level, the one for sinatra does almost all the work for you, while the the python library is more a set of helpers.

And I don't think that's something weird we're doing, look at services like stripe or superfeedr, they all have language specific libraries to make calling their web part easier.

So what I'm saying: If you run a service that targets devs you might still end up writing language-specific libraries. And I don' think there is much keeping language-agnostic services from happening, as there are a lot of them.

Edit: Though open source there is less, right. I think that's a mixture of the skills you need (having a proper server online and programming the software, not every team can both), the popularity of self-hosting in that community, and that it might cost money to run the online service.

[0]: https://portier.github.io/

pavlov 2 days ago 1 reply      
Libraries offer tight integration with the language. A generic service that provides a HTTP API doesn't.

If you are currently using a library that operates synchronously on in-memory objects and offers an idiomatic API in the language of your choice, switching to a web service may feel like a bucket of cold water because suddenly you're dealing with an async-only interface that sits behind a slow socket and requires serializing everything to a lowest common denominator API. It's a huge tradeoff that requires serious justification.

Back in 1990, there was an industry standard called CORBA that attempted to turn libraries into services:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Object_Request_Broker_A...

There's a reason why we're not using any CORBA-based software. (Well, the GNOME desktop was based on it for some time, but they gave up eventually.)

mdekkers 2 days ago 0 replies      
What are some of the problems keeping that from happening?

Here's one: Money.

A service will cost me (more) money. A library I can deploy on already-existing infrastructure. Keeping in mind that "Cloud" is 3x to 6x more expensive over running in house, this is a significant drawback.

artpar 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Do you mean fabric8/openshift/kubernetes+docker images ?
herbst 2 days ago 0 replies      
The thing about containers is that they tend to make everything more complicated and resource hungry. Devise is a very good example for 'it Barely could be easier at this point'
warren46 2 days ago 0 replies      
Open standards are such, but in a heterogeneous software landscape one will always have challenges integrating vendor specific implementations of such and such services.
Ask HN: Where is there so much cryptocurrency skepticism on HN?
10 points by rloomba  1 day ago   14 comments top 7
schoen 1 day ago 1 reply      
I'll guess the following, as someone who generally appreciates cryptocurrency:

1. People who speculatively hold an asset have an incentive to talk it up, even misrepresenting their own beliefs about its merits and future value. Thorstein Veblen wrote a whole thing about how this happened with real estate in the U.S., where people felt immense social pressure to persuade the broader public that a particular town was great because their assets and their friends' assets were tied up in land in that town and they all wanted their property values to rise. It's annoying for people if they feel that they're getting a pitch that's ultimately inspired more by someone's (possibly undisclosed) market position than by someone's honest assessment of the situation.

2. Altcoin creators and early investors stand to become rich, possibly at other people's expense, if there is sufficient interest and enthusiasm for an altcoin, even briefly, regardless of the altcoin's level of technical or economic innovation.

3. There's a lot of disagreement about economic ideology and policy issues around cryptocurrencies, familiar examples including Bitcoin's intentionally deflationary monetary policy and Monero and Zcash's privacy. This can add an extra level of contention and disagreement in this area, sometimes in the background, and people may be upset by the particular choices or policy goals that others have adopted. (And a lot of people have diametrically opposed beliefs about whether governments should have more or less power than they do today to set monetary policy, to monitor transactions, and to prevent particular entities from receiving payments.)

4. We've seen with the DAO and the current Bitcoin forks that there's also uncertainty about governance, including a conflict between people who want to see purely code-based rules set at the outset and enforced forever, and people who want some kind of community to have a way to amend the rules. To some people, the failure of meta-consensus about governance and decisionmaking is a long-term fatal flaw in cryptocurrency communities, and a way of glossing over something really necessary.

5. Cryptocurrencies have experienced high rates of frauds, scams, and theft that suggest to some people that they can't be taken seriously as a real part of the financial system, since the risks seem unacceptably high and there aren't straightforward ways to insure against them. Most new projects don't directly change this situation.

6. We've also seen tons of projects adopting blockchains that obviously don't need them because the participants in the system already trust each other or at least already trust a common authority that they agree is allowed to adjudicate disputes. In that case, the common authority can maintain a central database, or the participants can maintain a simpler distributed database and appeal to the authority to resolve any disagreements. (Maybe there are some cases where something blockchain-like is ultimately cheaper because it simply reduces the frequency of disputes that need to be adjudicated, but in any case a lot of people adopting blockchains seem to miss the point about trust and decentralization.) So there is a skepticism that says that most often when someone used a blockchain it was probably for buzzword-compliance.

Nokinside 1 day ago 1 reply      
There in nothing wrong with block-chain technology. It's good idea that will find uses.

The reason why I would came out at skeptic is because its proponents are full of shit, political and naive to the extreme and they are against government by default. Alternatively they are cynical businessmen riding with hype.

Proponents can't distinguish different roles of money. They have never heard of basic things like: optimal currency region, connection between balance of payments and exchange rate, smurfing ... They think they have discovered something else than just new payment and transaction method.

nxsynonym 1 day ago 0 replies      
Partly due to the fact that a majority of the crypto "articles" posted are 90% speculation, ICO buzz pieces, or "is it too late?" lazy question threads.

Also partly due to the fact that the technology is being overshadowed by the fin-tech bros looking to make a quick buck, and it's reflected in the quality and quantity of crypto related articles that are being written in the first place.

There are still some good discussions, but for the most part people are sick of seeing the same crap repeated daily with no critical thought or real news to speak of.

PaulHoule 1 day ago 1 reply      
A little more than a year ago I went to a conference on blockchains. [it makes my blood boil how IBM has gotten people to say "cloud", "blockchain", etc. Even people who think IBM is pants will still talk like babies when these subjects come around]

One clear thing to me was that Ethereum had no security story.

Well, it has a story for the security of the base challenge, an actually interesting story that if you have five different implementations that are evenly used, a hole in one of them won't affect the whole system (unless it reaches 50% adoption.)

However there is no security story for applications built on Ethereum. Thus the DAO hack, the ICO hacks, etc. Experience shows that you can't trust the run-of-the-mill programmer to get that kind of thing right, and you certainly can't trust bankers, traders, and fin-tech brogrammers!

There are also interesting reasons why blockchains were only developed lately. If you went to a distributed computing conference and presented a paper about a distributed system which did not improve it's ability to handle workload at all when you add more nodes, you'd get laughed out of the room.

And then there are the people who talk about "fiat currency" and who think that Bitcoin is like gold. Bitcoin is not like gold. People wanted gold 4000 years ago and they will want it 4000 years from now unless we are extinct or unless we find an asteroid which is made of solid gold. No way are people going to want Bitcoin 4000 years from now.

impendia 22 hours ago 0 replies      
I don't describe cryptocurrency as a "scam" or "greed". Indeed, I find the whole subject fascinating.

But, as to where skepticism comes from -- these so-called "coins" have been conjured out of thin air, are not backed up by anything or anyone, and have no intrinsic value. And yet somehow they have become worth over $100 billion.

Perhaps one or more cryptocurrencies will indeed emerge as a long-term store of value. But I think that skepticism is a quite natural reaction.

SirLJ 19 hours ago 0 replies      
Some people lived trough the dot com bubble...

And the dotcom bubble was better, because at least the stocks had liquidity and were traded on established stock markets...

Missing on bitcoin is equal on missing on the power ball for me...

Basically I don't see anything in the crypto world yet, one day maybe when the technology is mature and real shares are traded on real stock exchanges, but right now, no thanks!

dozzie 1 day ago 0 replies      
> Whenever anything cryptocurrency or blockchain is posted, nearly all the comments label it as a "scam" fueled by "greed".

When it's another blockchain-as-a-cloud-serverless-service, it's usuallymade by cryptographic dilettantes who don't understand what is theblockchain's function and just want to join the hype bandwagon.

Bing/yahoo/duckduckgo are gaining on Google?
19 points by elid1979  2 days ago   27 comments top 4
ajc-sorin 2 days ago 2 replies      
I know most people on this aren't a fan of the subreddit /r/The_Donald, but there is a tremendous push on that sub for people to use alternatives to major tech giants.

Google, Facebook, and Amazon (due to the connection with Washington Post) are vilified, and multiple posts reach the top each week outlining alternatives - Duckduckgo is a major one, firefox/brave are suggested browsers, and in general people on that sub talk about completely disconnecting from facebook, or minimizing use to messenger only.

I can see a pretty sizeable opportunity for platforms to come out that are truly tolerant of all speech/perspectives. I'm not criticizing, nor expressing favor towards, any of the services I've mentioned, but it seems like someone could make a solid earning in a lifestyle company aimed at servicing individuals who want privacy and uninhibited freedom of speech.

For reference, T_D is in the top 125 of subreddits by subscriber base and activity. If you exclude default subreddits, they're probably in the top 50 subs. Considering they probably have even more penetration through the amount of lurkers (like me), I wouldn't be surprised if they drove a sizeable chunk of users away from Big-Tech.

Edit (for personal reasons): I'm not on T_D because I support Trump. I go there to get a perspective of people who I don't completely understand, in order to better understand their needs/fears. Also, their memes are dank.

kpwags 2 days ago 4 replies      
About 2 months ago I switched to DuckDuckGo and have been happy with the results I get back
gesman 2 days ago 3 replies      
For a fact I was able to pull competitive docs from website with the help of Duck that Goog won't provide.

Name kinda sucks - i always typing duckgogo and ending up at spammy site. WTF is duckduckgo?

Can't we do a brandy shortcut or so?

s3r3nity 2 days ago 0 replies      
Isn't Yahoo still powered by Bing? Or did they move back to their own engine?
Google, can you use your AI to punish articles showing irrelevant videos?
7 points by hank808  1 day ago   1 comment top
gesman 1 day ago 0 replies      
Most are hosted by Google, so ....
Ask HN: Anyone else letdown by the quality and focus of S17?
4 points by rblion  19 hours ago   5 comments top 3
sova 18 hours ago 1 reply      
What are you talking about exactly, the roadway in Poland?
Lordarminius 16 hours ago 0 replies      
No its not just you. I posted about it on this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15078313
cvaidya1986 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Startups that may not seem cool can be extremely valuable too.
Ask HN: Does anybody know a company use Lisp other than Clojure in production
4 points by kureikain  1 day ago   4 comments top 3
vram22 31 minutes ago 0 replies      
Cleartrip, an Indian startup (must have grown by now - this is from some years ago) used/uses Common Lisp. I know via a friend who worked there and wrote a lot of the CL code for their site.

I've read that ITA Software (which Google bought some time ago), also used some Lisp, maybe Common Lisp.

Plus if you go on to sites like Franz.com (makers of Allegro CL) and LispWorks, you will probably find lists of clients of theirs.

quickthrower2 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Not sure what kinda Lisp it is but HN runs on Lisp
rpwilcox 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'd venture less into Common Lisp territory and more into Racket, myself...
Ask HN: Where do backlink checking services get their data from?
8 points by maurtinshkreli  1 day ago   2 comments top 2
sebst 1 day ago 0 replies      
There is a comment which was voted dead which actually answered the question. These services have their own crawlers. If you ever spot for example MajesticBot in your access logs you have found one of the biggest.
tconaugh 1 day ago 0 replies      
They use distributed web crawlers to crawl 100s of billions of web pages. Probably one of the following options:

1) Built their own crawlers.

2) Using an Apache Nutch/Heritrix cluster in a colo facility.

3) Use 3rd party services like mixnode.

Ask HN: What feature does your dream note taking app have?
6 points by ZaninAndrea  1 day ago   18 comments top 11
agitator 1 day ago 0 replies      
I use Evernote a lot, for all sorts of things. Here are some improvements I would love and frustrations I've experienced.

- A clever and clean way for tracking changes and additions for hand written notes.

- Evernote allows adding hand written notes, but they go page by page, which is frustrating when notes or designs span longer lengths. Allowing a continuous stream of hand writing would be great.

- Better merge resolution. When you happen to make a change on the web (clip a web page for example) while writing notes on the iPad, I often lose notes.

twobyfour 22 hours ago 1 reply      
1) Merge resolution is a big one. I often muse that a note-taking app with a Git backend and three-way merge facility would be kind of awesome.

2) Combine that with offline note taking that auto-syncs when you have a network connection again (even if the note-taking app is backgrounded on your phone), and you'd have a winner. Give me that and I wouldn't even care about support for any formats other than plain text.

3) The ability to organize notes into folders and subfolders with no limit to levels of nesting.

OK, yeah, I really just want an auto-syncing Git client on my phone.

chauhankiran 1 day ago 0 replies      
Following I like to see ( If possible ):

Many app are stop, if issue with net connection or send a big notification about my internet connection issue. Why I have to see it? Can app not manage sync & net issue with local storage or something. I mean I am just taking a note and for taking a note, a real time internet connection is not needed., Right? it's not email app where connection is more important.

fosco 1 day ago 0 replies      
I want to merge org-mode with workflowy in a gnu free locally hosted instance. That is my dream.

For now I settle with org-mode in terminal because I avoid the cloud.

scalesolved 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'd love to see a timeline feature where I can play back a session of note taking from a day or plot it out into a nice JS timelined graph automatically based on journal entries.
tbirrell 1 day ago 1 reply      
Pagedown integration. I use Stack Overflow on a daily basis, so if I could write and save my questions and answers in an editor while preserving the syntax (especially the key commands I'm use to), I'd get behind that.
sjs382 1 day ago 0 replies      
Ability to take photos on a mobile, mark them up (with a pen), and have full-text search of the contents of the photos and the notes.
abawany 1 day ago 1 reply      
I use OneNote. The features that make it indispensable for me are as follows:

* Excellent synchronization across devices

* Support for handwriting

* Web viewer

kerrsclyde 1 day ago 0 replies      
Search by image, so show notes containing similar images.

I am a very heavy Evernote user but it has nothing like this.

fiftyacorn 22 hours ago 0 replies      
ive tried lots of note taking apps and ended up blogging my tech notes
fairpx 1 day ago 1 reply      
Auto calculate writte equations
Employer gave me a conference budget for next year. Can I get suggestions?
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BjoernKW 1 day ago 1 reply      
I like to recommend going to conferences that broaden your horizons or give you a different perspective.

Going to a developer conference as a developer might seem like an obvious choice but going to an event with a slightly different though still adjacent topic might provide a better learning experience and allow you to get to know people from outside your usual circle of interest.

Design conferences are particularly intriguing for developers. I can highly recommend both Reasons to: (https://reasons.to) and beyond tellerrand (https://beyondtellerrand.com/). Both have a similar background and deal with design and web topics as overarching themes with talks ranging from front-end technology in general, data visualisation, to typography and art (as of lately including quite a bit of generative art).

Events like that can be very inspiring and they can provide you with insights from other subject areas that you would've never thought to have an impact on your daily work.

levthedev 1 day ago 0 replies      
You should definitely check out !!con. They have really fascinating and weird talks about all sorts of interesting CS and design topics. Plus, it's pay what you can and is located in New York, so there's lots of interesting stuff to do nearby.

My favorite talk from this year was about implementing an algorithm for HDR photography purely in Microsoft Excel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkQJdaGGVM8

Jeremy1026 1 day ago 0 replies      
What is your budget? As that might affect what you should go for to maximize your benefit.
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