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Started a stupid company. Failed.
1149 points by themanthatfell  19 hours ago   366 comments top 159
zedshaw 18 hours ago 55 replies      
Hey, other comments are going to give you a few lines telling you to not quit, that you should hang in there, and that it'll be alright. That may be true, but to me it sounds like you're possibly not doing well enough to make any of that possible, and you probably need to find work fast. Here's what I want to do:

1. I have a little list of companies looking for employees that I'll send you. Not much just companies that have contacted me looking for people.2. I am a bad ass writer and have a crazy resume, but more importantly I know how to craft resumes and I'll look at yours and help you fix it up.3. If you're in the San Francisco area I'll meet up with you and listen to what happened and see if there's a way to work out of it, or at least listen.4. If you email me at help@learncodethehardway.org I'll talk with you and see if there's other ways I can help.

I'm serious, hit me up on email and I'll help out if I can. In fact, this goes for anyone else looking for work right now. Email the above and I'll reply with my little list. I don't make commissions on placement or anything like that, just a good thing to do.

avenger123 17 hours ago 0 replies      
You are a husband, and a father. To me, that is never failure, no matter what happens.

Keep it together for your family. Your kids and wife need you right now. You are the pillar of the house and if you stand tall your strength will make the rest of your family emotionally better off.

So you may lose the house. Happens to a lot of people.

Whatever money you have right now or can get, keep it. Stop paying any of your bills, except the necessities.

Who knows how many weeks, months it will be until you are kicked out. Stay in your house until you are forced to leave. When you do have to leave, go get a rental.

Go find your self whatever jobs you can get to get some income coming in. This could be delivering pizza, snow romoval, mowing lawns, etc..

While your doing this, find another software job.

None of this is easy but see this as another start up. This time its literally to start you back up again.

Remember, you are in the States, no matter what happens, your wife and kids will never go hungry. You will provide for them no matter what.

edgecrafter 7 minutes ago 0 replies      
TL;DR summary: Watch the burn rate on your money - bail out or adjust before to late. Reboot - do anything to get a foot on job market again.

Almost the same here. Quitted a well paid job, sold my flat giving enough money to live on for a couple of years, moved together with girlfriend starting a webshop and loose plans on freelancing as IT-consultant too.

Webshop not taking off and I neglect to pursue consultants job, thus not keeping myself "warm" in the market.

One year later I form a start-up with 2 other guys. 5 months down the road I realize this is not going fast enough - I'm seriously running out of money, about to sell all I own, which only will pay bills for another 2-3 months.

Miraculous, through a friend, I get a break on a consultant gig for 2 months. Another stroke of luck (and marketing myself) this is followed by another gig for 5 months in a new company and the consultant path now on track with a third gig.

The two co-founders took it were badly I jumped ship, as I were the only techguy, although we had outlined the consequences if doing so (no share of company/product) if leaving within first year.

Lesson learned: Do your math, look at $ burnrate. If you go "all in" you might risk "go all out" if you keep going to long. If co-starting something with others be very clear on terms for quitting, and be sure it's ok to do so.

Scary experience loosing almost everything ....Webshop now very slowly getting tracktion - but still not earning "real money" to live by. Still got some startup ideas, but will be outsourced or groomed as side projects

Best of luck to you. Endure the next period, focus to get a foothold in jobmarket again.

PhasmaFelis 15 hours ago 2 replies      
To the OP: Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure it wasn't easy. I hope that some of the many folks offering help can give you a leg up.

To everyone else: I like HN, but I often wish that it really was Hacker News instead of Startup News, and this is one reason why. I worked for a startup for a while, until it folded; now I'm maintaining servers at a university library, making mid-five digits a year, and I'm as happy as I've ever been. I've got stability, I've got low stress levels, I work 40 hours a week and then relax at home or with my friends; and I've got enough money to live comfortably, save for retirement, and have a few luxuries besides.

We need to stop telling aspiring coders that they're not worth shit unless they're taking risks, burning with ambition, dreaming of being billionaires. Some people really enjoy that road, and that's okay, but sometimes taking the safe and easy path is a perfectly fine and noble thing to do.

themanthatfell 16 hours ago 9 replies      
My wife cried reading all of your comments. I guess we were looking for some sign that someone somewhere is pulling for us. During the first hour this post was up I hovered over the delete more than once. It doesn't seem right to bring an entire ecosystem of ambitious and wonderful people a story of failure. I guess I learned that hitting delete would be worse. Thank you from the 5.3 of us.
31reasons 17 hours ago 8 replies      
I don't care if I get down voted. But if a person already has 3 kids and another on the way, why would you spend all your savings on a startup ? even if you run out of savings, why would you max out your credit ? There is something called calculated risk.
joshmn 18 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm mobile now so excuse the brevity.

If you're in the Twin Cities I'd like to extend a hand in you running on two legs. I'd also like to help out giving your little ones a memorable Christmas. No strings attached.

I can get you in front of some bigger names here and get you interviews, depending on what you do. tbese

Email is josh@josh.mn

tomasien 18 hours ago 1 reply      
If you're really done, don't listen to the people saying "don't give up" - give up, and get back on your feet, whatever that takes. Then, get back on the horse when and if you're ready - I just came off a year of re-building my life after a failed startup, and I'm in such an insanely better position to start my next company now than I was then, but it's only been made possible by the fact that the moment we realized the funding was not going to happen, we gave up.

We had a shitty 4 months, and it could be longer for you it could be shorter, but go through it and come out the other side. My new startup is now about to close funding, but it only happened because we put ourselves in the position to succeed, not by continuing to try to force something that wasn't going to happen.

Knowing when you're dead is the first step.

JesseAldridge 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I worked on my own stuff for a long time, trying to live off next to nothing. It didn't work and eventually I ran out of money.

I got a job as a programmer-grunt. I saved up basically everything I made. After two years my bank account hit $50K and I quit and started working on my own stuff again. Life is so much easier now that I have some cash in the bank.

Burning through credit cards seems like a bad path. It's just not necessary. I remember being afraid I would get addicted to easy money in the corporate world. I didn't. The lifestyle was nice, but the lack of freedom made it easy to quit.

Now, I don't have a family to support. That would of course make things harder. I just wanted to strongly recommend the nest-egg approach to anyone grappling with finances.

Michael_Murray 17 hours ago 2 replies      
I'm on my 5th company. The first 3 failed so miserably that there's not even a crater from where they imploded. The fourth had one of the founders usurp control and steal >$1M from the rest of the team and we were left exactly where you are - tapping 401Ks, taking our savings to $0 (and in some cases <<<< $0) and with terrified wives/kids/families/pets.

The 5th hit $10M in revenue in 3 years (completely bootstrapped).

Everyone else has great advice here - I just wanted you to know that there are others who have been where you are.

Much as everyone else expressed... if there's anything I can do, please reach out. mmurray / at / MAD Security.

strwbrry 52 minutes ago 0 replies      
As a creator (don't like calling myself an entrepreneur) I have failed more than 30 times and out of this I lost everything 3 times and personally went bankrupt 1 week before my wedding (talked about this on Mixergy during Andrews failure week).

I'm now on my third success and each new project seems to get better and bigger, I still launch something that sucks here and there but I enjoy the journey and NOT the attachment to the end result.

I hate to sound all Zen here but failure is normal. I wish I had three kids, wish my wife was pregnant - you lucky man.

Failure cannot live with persistence.

90% of what we do sucks! but that's ok.

You really have no control over your future so enjoy the path.

From one guy that fails to another! @scottsbarlow

johnnyg 17 hours ago 0 replies      
If you are in Houston, johnny@cpap.com.

Give us a paypal link and we'll gap you.

pallandt 18 hours ago 0 replies      
You should comment with a list of skills, maybe either a fellow HN-er offers you a job, or knows someone else that might be able to.

It's close to Christmas guys, help this person if you can.

Edit: Also, I noticed you said you're pretty sure you're the opposite of 'us', I can assure you, there's at least another 'failure' to join you, me. I've failed plenty of times in various ways. I used to have a company (not a startup in the common sense though, just a small business) as well some time ago, it didn't fail per se, but I ended up closing it voluntarily because things weren't going in the direction I wanted them to, lots of external factors out of my reach. I felt terrible about it for quite a long time though...now I'm better.

BrainInAJar 1 hour ago 0 replies      
What's sad is that a large chunk of HN readers are going to see this and think "well my company isn't stupid, so I won't fail" when the reality of the situation is that most startups fail and are, in fact, stupid. Confirmation bias and sunk cost fallacy keep people doing it and slaving to make money for VC snakes
pjungwir 15 hours ago 0 replies      
I don't see anyone who's mentioned Portland, OR yet. If you're around there, I'd be happy to talk: pj@illuminatedcomputing.com. My startup failed two years ago, with a homemaker wife, two kids 2 & 0, no health insurance, and almost no savings. Pretty scary. I've been freelancing since then and it's a huge relief to be out of that place. You have more support than you know!
megablast 14 hours ago 2 replies      
With 3 kids and another on the way, this is a risk you should never have taken. Even when I started, a single bloke, I started my company in my spare time working full time, and built up a huge safety net before quitting.

This is more a warning for others who think it is easy, or a fun thing to do. Don't.

tigersharktopus 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey bud,

Hitting the bottom after a long fall is the hardest thing you can go through in life. A year ago I was working on my own stupid startup, ran out of money, ran out of credit, wasn't sure there would be another blue sky in my life. Everyone has ups and downs, its the hardest thing to go through.

However, life is not over. It may feel like it, and you may even want it to be. But YOU are still writing YOUR story -- do you want to be the guy who fell and didn't get back up? Fuck no. You want to be the guy who had nothing left and no matter how far down the rabbit hole you go, you find a way back out. You want to be a success. You want it all. You'll have it all someday. Is that day today? No. But because you're still alive you have the chance to make it a reality.

So get back up, find work, pay off bills, and you'll be back in the game before you know it. You're intelligent, smart, driven. Remember -- do not let failure dictate who you are. You're not a failure, failure is simply something that happens to all of us. Learn from failure and let it compliment your decision making in the future. You'll be wiser and you'll learn from this mistake.

Good luck and I'll see you around,Tiger

jval 15 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey dude, please post up a BTC address so we can send you some cash to tide you over.
dennisgorelik 16 hours ago 1 reply      
You are in an unpleasant situation, but not in a tragedy by no means. To put things into perspective: imagine you have successful company but got pancreatic cancer.

Your to-do list is pretty straightforward:

1) Put your failed startup aside.

2) Find a job ASAP.

3) Try to save your house. Your family would need it. Beg your bank to give you ~extra month until your next paycheck.

4) In about a year you may return to thinking about another startup. Take another year or two to think it over, accumulate some funds, do some part-time research and then jump into your new startup again... or not. Being an employee until you retire is also a good choice.

vertis 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm going to echo a few other people here. You need to share more details (Location, etc)

Zed Shaw may be the most famous, but there is a bunch of us that can do things to help.

On the off chance you're in Australia (or if you just want a someone to talk to about this), feel free to email me at me@vertis.io

gigawatt 2 hours ago 0 replies      
If you're in NYC or can relocate, the company I work for is on a major hiring push. Very stable and a great place to work no crazy anti-family startup hours. Feel free to contact me.
bonemachine 2 hours ago 0 replies      
But you're a good writer, obviously.

Hold on. Life has a way of bouncing back (especially when it comes to jobs and money). So you aren't CEO material; but who gives a fuck, really. Your family may be the only ones to see through the fog of our culture's toxic emphasis on performance and "winning" -- but they will stand by you, and they will pull you through this. And they are a million trillion times more valuable than the peer approvable of the crummy startup "culture" out there, and the promise of easy, outsized gains that it dangles in front of us.

vellum 18 hours ago 1 reply      
You should take Zed up on his offer. If you want to be entrepreneurial again, you can be, after youve built up your bankroll. When youre broke with dependents, you dont have the emotional ability to make good decisions.
brianbreslin 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Trust me you are not the opposite of most people here. This site thrives on "survivor bias" and making it seem like its all rosy. If you're in Miami, I can help you get a job in startups.
chaostheory 4 hours ago 0 replies      
You had guts. Most people don't have that. You have perseverance. Most people don't have that either. You also have your health, you have a great wife, and it sounds like your family is healthy as well so that's a few big things that most people don't have.

You also haven't failed yet until you stop trying.

Houses are also never really anyone's until they fully pay it off anyways. In most cases, people are just renting from banks. I don't feel that you really lost anything aside from property taxes.

That said, it doesn't hurt to regroup and get a normal gig for some time. I don't think there's any shame with moving in with either your parents or hers for a bit.

Maybe next time you get the fever, aim for starting an equivalent of a "small restaurant" first before something much bigger. i.e. have a day job and work on your project at nights and weekends.

l0c0b0x 17 hours ago 1 reply      
> Pretty sure I am the opposite of everyone here.

I am one like you with a wife and 3 Kids, that at one point couldn't afford bills/payments (exactly during this holiday season), Dec/January and February were the coldest and weakest I have ever felt as a man. Look at your wife and kids for an extremely good amount of energy and inspiration to go on and fight for them.

During these tough times, nothing comes better than believing in that 'one thing' that will always be true, and that is the love for your family. That's what helped me.

Somewhat cliche now, but it is true: It will get better.

dodyg 10 hours ago 0 replies      
This is my worst nightmare - I have had my company for 10 years and we've come close to this position twice, first in 2008 during the global economic collapse and second in 2011 when the country I am in had a revolution. I can still remember the stomach churning fear in my stomach during the worse periods.

Good luck to you and your family - it was a brave thing to do. I pray that you get back on your feet as soon as possible.

mtsmith85 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey There. 138 comments in, it may seem trite, but if you're in NYC, please shoot me an e-mail (info in my profile). I'm hiring across the board; even if it's just freelance to get you back on your feet, we can work something out. Please e-mail.
smtddr 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Dude, you got a paypal donation link somewhere? Just put it in your HN profile if ya want.
xamdam 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I agree with Zed - find job and re-group. I have 3 kids myself and totally understand the insecurity you're feeling - I've been through a layoff. I don't know your jedi level, but starting a business takes smarts and guts lots of companies want. You will probably get a lot of help here already, but feel free to PM me on reddit http://www.reddit.com/user/xamdam/
001sky 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Bad bet to make or a good bet with a bad outcome? You may have already commented as much as you feel comfortable with, but would be important for readers to understand perhaps more on this point. In any event, this has some bearing on even how you perceive yourself when you say 'just a statistic'.
happywolf 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Here are two things you can consider:

1) Document why your company failed and have a PayPal Donate Button. I think a lot of people here will appreciate your sharing and glad to donate. I myself am one.

2) List out your skills and see if any remote work can be arranged.

jaxn 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Failure sucks. I have been there.

In my experience the hardest part was that I couldn't separate myself from my startup. So when the startup failed, I was a failure. This was compounded b/c the startup failed in large part b/c of my weaknesses. As a founder we are responsible for all aspects, but we can't be strong in all aspects (I suck at sales).

Take some time to focus on your strengths instead of your weaknesses. Luckily, that is probably the easiest way for you to pay the bills too.

It is going to take some time to rebuild your self-confidence, but it helps to acknowledge that is what is going on.

Good luck!

mililani 16 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey man, sorry to hear. I really hope things work out for you. I really do. But, even if things go south for a long time, I sort of envy you. At least you've tried. I haven't done shit. I keep wanting to try. At least I can say at the end of my life, "You know what? I wasn't a success, but I followed my dreams and passions."

But, I still hope your situation will be better several years from now.

OneOneOneOne 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Four kids under 6... I envy you man. My wife and I are working toward that but it will be a few years. Hang in there. You're in my prayers.
hakkasan 17 hours ago 0 replies      
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy"

You do what you need to get and your family through this. That's only only game that's important. The rest of this is just icing. If you are in Europe or the Bay Area feel free to reach out to me @kzhu. I'll help if I can.

jacoblyles 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I can't help out a lot. But I did accidentally order a pretty nice Christmas present that it turns out I don't need. Drop me an email with your address and I'll forward it for the kids.
jason_slack 16 hours ago 2 replies      
I have failed on 5 different ventures. Now going to try a 6th.

I am in the Bay Area. If we share a common grocery store. I'd be happy to send you a gift card for some groceries.

Edmond 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Not sure how old you, but one of the central sacrifices that a young entrepreneur has to be ready to make is on the matter of family formation.

The moment you are a family man, things are different, you can still try starting a business but you really need to think long and hard about what you are doing before you make a move.

In fact I would say if you already have a family to support the only business you should start is one where you already have customers lined up ready to pay, or you have investor money to cushion you.

Good luck with everything am sure things will work out.

fygwtclub 15 hours ago 0 replies      
I consider myself a lot less Smarter than people here on HN so I never comment. But your 70 words made me.

'Manthatfell' - You are a very brave person to write something up like this very openly. But, If a Man of the Family loses hope it tears that family apart. Trust me. I observed this very closely. HN Community is so strong, kind and supportive.

You already found a lot helping hands. You are now 'Manthatfellbutgotup'. Just start Running..

dennisgorelik 16 hours ago 1 reply      
Please share some more details - it would help us to give you more targeted advice:

1) What was the mission of your failed startup?

2) What was your personal role in it?

3) What city are you in?

skyraider 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Check the Who's Hiring and Seeking Freelancer posts here. The November ones may still be active. Also, just to re-emphasize, you should post a list of skills in this thread.
yogo 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Hang in there man. Care to share more about what kind of company? How big of a gamble was it?
spajus 38 minutes ago 0 replies      
Zed, you are my fucking hero. Seriously.
smokeyj 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I'd rather fail than never have tried. Just remember people still love you for who you are.
mathattack 5 hours ago 0 replies      
On my worst days, my kids are still thrilled to see me when I get home. Hang in there! There's nothing wrong with getting a boring corporate job while you regroup. I think Zed is the best help you can find, but post an email address in response to this and I'll drop you an email and see if I can help.
tomelders 7 hours ago 0 replies      
If you're based anywhere near London, drop me an email, I might be able to point you towards a few people looking for devs (assuming you're a dev), and I'll also take a look at your CV, I tend two write good ones.
gozmike 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey Man - it sucks. But...

It gets better, way better. Keep your family safe and in the forefront and you'll make it through this. I can promise that.

steven777400 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I wish I had something more helpful to say. But I appreciate this post very much. I appreciate first of all the strength and courage it takes to admit a difficult situation. And secondly, I appreciate your willingness to stand up to the confirmation and survivorship bias that, by definition, permeates the new-business world. Thank you. I wish you the very best and sincerely hope you quickly find your feet again.
michaelochurch 18 hours ago 1 reply      
It's a really fucking shitty game for most of people who play. Ruined lives are pretty rare. (I'm doing well, a couple years later.) But most people get far less out of their time than they'd get in a conventional career.

Even the "low-risk" option of the startup job is way too risky for what little upside remains (at equity slices around 0.05%). Regular companies mentor and, when they have to lay people off, provide severance and positive reference (they'll often work with the recruiters who placed you and say good things). Many of these startups use fake "performance" issues to avoid the image problem of an honest layoff, and to fire people for free. (Banks and hedge funds just admit shit's tough, but these startups have to pretend they're always hiring, even when they're cutting. In other words, they prioritize their image over that of those they're letting go-- when they most need the help.) Getting fired with no severance and no reference is, in many ways, as bad as a startup failure. In some ways, it's worse. Startup failure has more short-term financial pain but, 3 years later, you can talk about it without fearing stigma (especially if you weren't a sole founder).

Paul Graham played the game once and won. It's hard to call it pure luck because, if you read On Lisp, he's obviously a very smart man and was, while active in Lisp, a clear 10x-er. However, there are a lot of people just as smart as he is, who end up ruining their lives in this game.

You're not alone, and I'm sorry to hear about it.

Where are you located? Have you considered Austin, Portland, or Baltimore? Those places have much lower COL and you'll make 80-90% of your Bay Area salary.

rjohnk 18 hours ago 0 replies      
While not completely analogous, when I graduated with a 4 year degree, I didn't know what to do in life. Went back to grad school - then exited - still lost. Two hospital stays with a wife and young child. No job. Life sucked. If your religious, cling to that. If not, cling to your wife and kids. THEY are the important thing.

I am religious, so I will be praying for you that everything will turn out. Keep us posted, man.

AnotherDesigner 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I wish you well. Do whatever it takes to keep your family comfortable, regroup and get ready to fight again. In todays economy, we're all entrepreneurs. You don't get to keep a job your entire life like some of our parents/grandparents did. You fight every day for your family, hustle, make friends, call in favors and help those that need it.

You tried. And you should try again. You've learned something from this but you won't get a chance to use it unless you try again.

> Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not: nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not: the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. Calvin Coolidge

aioprisan 15 hours ago 0 replies      
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huherto 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Somehow we tend to think that all it takes is hard work. But there are many aspects of building a successful business. Sometimes we can risk a little too much. Not everybody makes it, not every body has the needed support, not everybody has the tolerance to risk. It is not only about making your dreams happen, you also need to know when to fold.

I wish you the best. The best advice I can give you is to hang in there with your life. Strengthen your relationships, life may suck now, but it will get better, just hang in there, one day at a time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale

lemonberry 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I've had one of the toughest years of my life. One thing I kept doing was writing a gratitude list. Almost daily. It may have saved my life. Good luck.
enscr 3 hours ago 0 replies      
This post struck a chord with HN folks. It would be awesome if OP could exchange the karma with real life credit...
pouzy 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Did you see it coming ? You might have wanted to start searching for a job before losing the house. Don't think you are worth nothing, hang in there and get back on your feet in a more "normal" manner.
digitalzombie 9 hours ago 0 replies      
This is exactly the reason why I don't want to do anything like this.

I didn't get marry or get kids or build any asset because I want a stable career first before I start taking the plunge into starting a company.

Hell I thought about it. And that I can even mitigate the risk to with LLC/INC and I can do it on the side while having a part time or a consultancy job. If my bet doesn't work I can continue to work anyway. My plan was to get a stable and consistence income while having something on the side because it would lower my risk.

Anyway, thank you for posting this and I hope it gets better for you.

jccodez 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I can assure you that what you are experiencing is not out of the ordinary. Everyone has their struggles. My wife was pregnant with our third child while I was unemployed for 8 months. I encourage you to love that family and be a great husband and father. No business success can outshine what you have.
realrocker 12 hours ago 0 replies      
And what a failure! Most of us here wouldn't be able to fail so hard even if we tried. Since it can'get any worse by one's own choice, you are going to have so much fun and excitement going back up. Good luck to your family and you. If you need some daily expenditure money, please ask.
exodust 9 hours ago 0 replies      
What was the company? Why was it "stupid"?

I'm keen to hear what it was. Do you know why it failed? If so, knowing that is very valuable information that is not easily taught. Use that knowledge for your next adventure, and maybe share with us here, so we can learn too?

SteliE 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Really sorry to hear the situation you're in. I've shared my story of failure and entrepreneurial depression here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrUw4S76jFQ

A few people have told me that it helped them in tough times.

I have a small child and another on the way so I can only guess how you feel right now. Entrepreneurship is hard. Ping me at steli@close.io if you ever need someone to listen.

eplanit 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Comments TL;DR

Startup failed. Founder is suffering. Long live Zed Shaw.

emhart 18 hours ago 2 replies      
I don't want to overstep the bounds of a semi-anonymous comment thread, but some of the language you are using, and your choice of user name, has me concerned about your more immediate plans.

In the course of a very public failure and a long depressive phase I wound up in a mental facility for a few days. It's taken a long, miserable time to get back. I did not have the same stressors that you do, and the details of my situation are going to be very different than yours, but if you would just like to have a conversation with someone tonight, please feel free to get in touch. No judgment, no life-affirming advice, just that I would be very glad to hear what you have to say and to talk if you are up for it.

Email is in my profile, I'll keep checking it until pretty late. Good luck.

splatzone 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Sorry to hear about this, hopefully you'll bounce back.

Did you plan for this eventuality when you started the venture? Can you spare any details about what went wrong?

victortrac 16 hours ago 0 replies      
If you're in Austin, NYC, or SF and want to work for a decent company, I may be able to help. victor@victortrac.com.
brianmcdonough 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Keep your head up and don't be afraid to reach out to this community or others for help. All is not lost and you are no different than anyone here, though you may have over-extended yourself. Beating yourself up will not help you or your family.
sonabinu 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Good Luck !!! You have a lot of courage to reach out and tell your story ... you have the spirit, you will succeed ... Good Luck once again.
lnanek2 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Well, tech jobs are pretty easy to come by, especially with no home so you can live wherever the job is. Honestly, I wouldn't want to do a startup if I had kids anyway. I'd rather work a 9-5 with a regular income so I'd have money to take care of them and time after work to be with them and raise them. So this may all be for the best.
philjackson 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Where are you? How can people here get a hold of your CV?
rrich 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I don't know that there is much I can do to help you, but sometimes it helps to just know you're not alone. You are not alone. You are not the opposite of everyone here.

It sucks, it sucks big time, I know, I'm in the exact same boat. My business has sustained my family for the past fifteen years and over the past year I have lost clients that have been with me from the beginning due to industry consolidation and pricing pressures. If you hold tough this will pass and you will be stronger than ever. You have that spirit and drive within you. You wouldn't have begun the journey if you didn't.

Please know that this is part of the journey and has no reflection on how you are as a father or husband. Regroup, get back to the basics and try again when the time is right. There are amazing people here that are willing to help others, and among those amazing people is you. You shared your story. Many people, including myself, can't bring ourselves to do that, but the willingness to share your story allows us all to know we are not alone on this journey.

aforty 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Ouch, hang in there. Go get a 'real' job until you get back on your feet.
xux 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Really sorry to hear that man. We often stereotype startups as cool, exciting, explore-new-frontier crazy wild success.

Sometimes (probably most of the time) they just don't turn out that way, and the failures have real, life-changing consequences.

coofluence 6 hours ago 0 replies      
What do you do friend now? Pickup the pieces and look at a few positives from the last experiences. May be you made some contacts during the startup experience who could help you with next phase in life. Your family could be your priority and guide all your thoughts. That said, like a Greek heroic story do overcome the challenge and come out well. Good Luck.
coldtea 13 hours ago 0 replies      
>Pretty sure I am the opposite of everyone here.

Quite the contrary. This is the norm -- most startups fail, and a lot of them fail horribly (and with personal defaults).

Keep fighting.

Altan 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I can't even imagine the pain you're going through. I know it's tough to think rationally now, but if theres one thing that'd help is that you need to write down and memorize everything that went wrong so you never do it again once you get your second chance (everyone deserves a good second chance).

Hang in there man, you'll be surprised how many good people are out there that are willing to help. Never stop asking, never give in, always remember what you're fighting for. You'll be in my thoughts

Choronzon 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Do Quit!At least for awhile,these experiences are emotionally and financially shattering and you will want to get a grip on both before you start attempt anything else or your will burn yourself out.Take some boring well paid contact for 6 months,then have another fresh look at things.You deserve some downtime dont be shy to give yourself and your family some.
brianmcdonough 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm based in Santa Monica. If you're in the area and I'll buy you lunch, give you a pep talk and help get you back on your feet in any way I can.
dcarmo 10 hours ago 1 reply      
It just seems wrong to have three kids under 6 and a wife pregnant and still try your luck on creating a new company. I think before anything else, you need to be responsible with the ones that depends on you.
mbesto 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I feel you man. I know very few "successful" people who haven't gone through what you're going through right now (to varying degrees). You're not alone - http://www.techdisruptive.com/2013/10/29/common-themes-despa...
binarysolo 15 hours ago 0 replies      
OP, please let us know what rough geographical area you are located. This will allow some of us to at least give you some sort of referral to work; I can help out in the SF Bay Area but seeing the responses there are plenty better positioned who can lend aid and support to you.

Fight hard and good luck.

vasundhar 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey Buddy,

It happens to many, It happened to me. Entrepreneurship as we all know is not easy, if you are financially unstable don't think the world is Goog to end day after tomorrow. It doesn't and shouldn't. Get a relief, get your skills tuned, get employed somewhere and work on your passion and if things work out you can be / will be a success story. However don't Loose hope and passion for what you do. Beat wishes .

wf 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm late to the party. But I'm also willing to help you. If you're technical and need a recommendation for a job in the Midwest shoot me an email and maybe in my limited way I can help you. Good luck!
abbottry 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Can you offer your general location? Might help those of us with connections that might offer employment opportunities you'd be interested in.
mugenx86 18 hours ago 0 replies      
You may have lost your dream, but you have gained time to focus on your family and well being.

Find a job and take it easy for a while. Rebuild and come back stronger!

vik_psiphilabs 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I guess you stuck on to your dreams a bit too long. Well, we all do, that's the point. Nobody can tell you that's a wrong thing, even if it sometimes seems logical in the real world.

Well, if I step into your shoes it might take me a while to listen to the suggestions of all these people who are genuinely trying to help you. Your brain just shuts off and cant think straight. You need to find a way to somehow let it out. Cant say go backpack for a few days because you have a family to take care of...but try talking to friendly strangers, do something you haven't tried before(in a good sense) that doesn't cost money, just somehow get everything out of your system, try unplugging even if its for 2-3 days and then come back and read the comments again. I'm sure you'll see things much more clear. The help is already here!

That was as honest and close I can get to feel what you might be going through. Having said that, its always easier said than done. God bless you! Dont forget to comment to this thread once you are back up and strong! :)

thomasfl 12 hours ago 1 reply      
We definitely need more failures on HN. All these success stories is bringing me down.
arbuge 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Find a job for now. (Indeed and Linkedin aren't half bad for that nowadays; there may be better more specific resources in your industry also.) Get back on your own two feet. The rest will take care of itself later. It always does.
headgasket 7 hours ago 1 reply      
What that does not kill you makes you stronger. No product + Sales = company. Product + no Sales = No company.

It's only money, you have your health, your wife and 3 wonderful children, plus a beautiful promise underway. You can start the next one, loosing the stupid, with less than 100$ these days. A days worth of pay saved at the local burger shop. Pick the parts up and charge ahead. Just remember, no sales, no company. Dont buy the coolaid, fight hard for one thing: sales where sales = cost + profit. En-route entrepeneurs on HN should be following a SalesAndMarketingStarNews.yc.com aggregator if one existed. But if it existed it would most likely filed with BS...

Angel money or VC is not an enabler; it's profits that are. Profits attract all sorts of good things.

Good luck. If you are an true entrepeneur this will resonate. If it does not, get the best job you can get at moment's notice, and immediately start looking for the next one up the latter.

Cheers and good luck! And remember the one infinitely valuable thing you have: time.

johnny99 14 hours ago 0 replies      
You're not the opposite of everyone here. I've driven a company into the ground and was an early employee at another where I watched someone else drive us into the ground--not sure which was worse. Have two little kids and after one of the experiences above had to get a 'real' job for a while, in cubicleland. Felt like, and was really, a total failure, at least professionally. Probably doesn't help a ton right now, but you're not alone. Three years after that low point the situation has improved amazingly. It may be a slog, but you can dig out.

If you're in the Bay Area and an engineer or know SaaS sales, my company's hiring. It's a good place to work. Email john@entelo.com if that might help.

zura 13 hours ago 0 replies      
The world would be such a wonderful place if the location didn't matter... I mean, remove that prefix "if you're at place X" and suddenly all those propositions become much more valuable.
Justsignedup 6 hours ago 0 replies      
TBH, this is why I only have the one child. Children = big money. Also this is why people live in middle america where 50k buys you a nice big house.
kapogo1 6 hours ago 0 replies      

Money will cone back into your life. Be grateful for your health and family health.

This may sound lacking - But - This experience may change you and you family in the better for ways you could not yet imagine.

w_t_payne 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Kudos for trying. Good luck with the future. Hope you manage to get back in the ring at some point. Let us know if you need anything specific.
antoniopratas 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Use all the know how you gathered while creating and working on your company. Understand how you fit in a company and what that know-how can make you a valuable asset to the company. Look for a full-time position, leverage your know-how to get a higher position and a bigger salary. Get a job, get everything running, start thinking about a new idea and jump to it again when it's time.
BalancedThought 16 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey Man, Husband and Father. I have a large amount of respect for you. My only suggestion is to apologize to your wife and family for not being able to provide now. The love and forgiveness that you receive from them will lift a weight off you that you may not know is there.

Also, remember, you aren't the first Man, Husband or Father to be in this situation and that you are not alone. At this point, make sure not to be prideful and accept the gifts of known and unknown people who want to help you out. None of us made it to where we are without the help of family or the kind words of strangers.

This too shall pass and you will come out even stronger. I am in the New York area and depending on what you do, I might be able to help introduce you to people. You can reach me at rwoodruf at gmail dot com.

knackernews 12 hours ago 1 reply      
Don't be the man that fell. Be the man who fell, got back up and kept going. Don't be afraid to ask for help.

And please read up on birth control and family planning.

greenwalls 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Don't give up. When you hit rock bottom that's when you have no other choice but to turn it all around.
lowglow 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm totally down to help you. Let's meet up if you're in SF. I'll buy you coffee and hep you find something that works for you.
xplorer 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Which kind of company did you start? There's always hope. If you are a developer or sysadmin you can easily find a job.

Keep up!! Everything is going to be alright in the end!

Don't give up, keep your head up and keep looking up, then you will find some positivity in your life.

err4nt 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Keep your head up dude! I haven't been where you are but I have been in a position where I had no clue how my rent would get paid or how my lights would stay on.

Reading this hits close to home for me. You are are more than the sum of your assets. You are more than a set of skills, and ultimately you still have the ability to go out and conquer. Lean on family, lean on friends, and once you get through this never forget where you've been and help others in the same predicament.

I can't offer much, but if you need a few bucks for a couple bags of groceries email look@mewhenimtalkingtoyou.com and I can send some Paypal your way. No strings attached.

vinlimyh 15 hours ago 0 replies      
They say there are dip and rise. Only people brace through the dip, shall rise. As dip is the time where many give up. That say, a personal opinion, it would be best to rectify the current situation and prepare for a come back. As a an old Chinese saying goes, It means, as long as you are here to stay, there will always be a chance.

I guess my point here is, do not give up, but rectify current situation first. I'm sure @zedshaw does provide good helps there.

Good Luck. Blessing from Malaysia.

sidcool 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Please do update us when you are better. We would love to know that a fellow Hacker is doing well.

Shoot me an email at sid_cool1234(at)yahoo.co.in and I can see what I can do for you.

kureikain 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey, I was ever in same situation like you, with no help. My dad would blame me. My mom cried out. I cannot come back home. Leading to my homelessness for several weeks.

Now, I live in San Jose. And Thanksgiving is closer, if you happen to live in San Jose, contact me kurei at my website: axcoto.com. I can give a hand, drive you around if you need, and a place to sleep for several days if need.

The company that I'm working for also is hiring PHP Dev. I can referred you to the CEO.

alsobrsp 15 hours ago 0 replies      
You can't win if you don't play.

Most of my business ideas don't make it out of the box. One did well enough, about $100k over 6 years, now we are being sued for trademark infringement. Bogus according to several lawyers, but no money to fight it.

Shit happens, fall back, regroup, fight another day.

At this point you do what needs to be done for the family. Take care of them and they will take care of you. Then see if you can figure out what happened and try a new idea.

yangtheman 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey man, I've been there (two failed startups). Whatever you learned during that time should be valuable assets/skills in many startups. Hang in there. You gotta be there for your family.
mikekij 16 hours ago 1 reply      
You're getting a lot of this in this post, but I'd be happy to connect you to my network as well. Email me at mkijewski (gmail).
Cyberis 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Risk has its rewards.... but also its disasters, which is why it's called "risk." Before taking it you have to consider the cost of failure. If you can't afford the failure, don't take the risk. That being said, you're in a tough place and hopefully zedshaw actually has a list and not a bunch of hot air. I'd take him up on it and get something to provide income. BTW, while failing seems to be harder on us men, failing doesn't mean your not a man, but failing to take responsibility does speak to your manhood. So get up and get going.
kennethtilton 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I pulled out of my dive before going broke, but not by much. Licked my wounds, got a job, built up my savings for three years and now can try again, this time much wiser (and less risky) for the experience. Survival is success, I was told early on, and...yep.
cpt1138 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I have hesitated going all in because of Barbara Sher's infomercial saying "you don't go shopping for new clothes naked."
ests 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I am really sorry about your situation. I can't help you in any "real" way, but I send you the best and warm wishes.
xivzgrev 12 hours ago 0 replies      
Really sorry for your situation...how can community help? Listen? Living money? Place to stay? Job? Help on business?

As others have mentioned, hopefully one day when you are ready you can document. The world needs more documented failures to help us avoid survivor bias.

pedromsantos 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Is this an opportunity to solve a real problem? In helping founders of failed startups. Would an "insurance model" startupt for startups make sense? I'm European, so not sure how this sounds in the USA.
alanmeaney 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Alas, what could have been an interesting discussion reduced to over analysis of some guy calling some other guy a cock.
th3byrdm4n 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Yeah pretty much why I've settled on working for "the man."

Stable paycheck for my family might not compare to the ups (and downs) of running my own, but having gone through a bankruptcy (parents) before, I have no desire to go through it again.

nell 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Dude, What's your skillset?
bwb 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Damn man, I'm sorry but you bet too much on this given your family responsibilities :(
sidcool 15 hours ago 0 replies      
You will bounce back. Let us know a Bitcoin wallet where we can chip in whatever is in our ability.
reinder 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Hang in there! It's gonna be okay. If you ever need a listening ear, now or in the future, feel free to email me and we'll call. Also, eat well, sleep well, get some fresh air & walks and spend time with the family. Coping with difficult times is easier that way.
spacecowboy 14 hours ago 0 replies      
You are not just a statistic, you are much more. Your an inspiration to your family and to all of us just like all of those that have responded to you with offers to help. Let us all know how we can help.
feulix 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Sad story makes me sad. Keep on trying and accept the help of all the people in this thread. Christmas season has officially started.
d0m 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Nothing wrong in taking a job and slowly working on your things on the side..
pbreit 17 hours ago 0 replies      
If you have any technical skills, you should immediately go get a good paying job.
michaelxia 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Your'e one of HN. so fight hard and good luck right back at you.
Kalki 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Are you working or have you applied for a traditional day job?
nutela 8 hours ago 0 replies      
So did you learn anything? :-)
toobulkeh 17 hours ago 0 replies      
best of luck. If you want to fall back on security, I personally have good connections in the stable large companies in the South East US. If you need a stable income for awhile and are willing, please let me know.
JacobIrwin 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Stay strong. Another statistic - in favor of the world's need for talented engineers! Maybe not bound to be a self-made man, that's all.
CmonDev 11 hours ago 0 replies      
There are two outcomes when playing lottery...
jbobes 12 hours ago 0 replies      
What did you worked on?I'm in somewhat similar situation with this http://cloud306.com
djuggler 18 hours ago 0 replies      
You aren't alone. And it gets better. Just don't do anything terminal.
wesgarrison 17 hours ago 0 replies      
If you're in Kansas City, my company name is databasically and my first name is wes and I use a dot com. Shoot, if you're not in KC; email me and let me know how I can help.
Jagadeesh1210 8 hours ago 0 replies      
You might lose your money. But don't lose faith in you.
Neolis 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Keep calm and carry on! Do not give up! We will be there for you.
ssfermoy 17 hours ago 0 replies      
A very brave thing to write. Don't judge your self on how the dice fell. By just having tried you've done more than most people ever will.
luistroche 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Hang in there. At this time is important for you to get back on your feet as soon as possible. Find a job and be there for your family. About the foreclosure: did you talk to a lawyer? can you delay the process a little longer?. About your company: can you share some information about your visions?. What do you think went wrong?. My best regards for you and your family.
iamabraham 15 hours ago 0 replies      
You're more like the rest of us then most will admit. Be strong. Take care of your family. Good luck.
benmorris 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Live and learn. Luckily developers are in demand these days.
ChrisNorstrom 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Many Americans have run out of money. Have poor credit. Have lost their house. Ghetto men leave their girlfriend when she's pregnant. Baby Mamas trying to raise 4 kids without a father. You have a wife, kids, and you care. You're 3x the man most "men" out there are. You are doing much better than the other "statistics". Believe me I've unfortunately had to work in their neighborhoods. Your material possessions are gone, but you have your family. Get on housing assistance/welfare for a while, collect yourself, start over, begin anew. You're smart, you'll make it.
shklnrj 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Just keep hanging there. Things would be all right in due time.
karlcoelho1 7 hours ago 0 replies      
put your email in the bio, so people can get hold of you, and help you out.
scotthtaylor 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Do you have a CV that you can send through?
adventured 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I won't say you should do X Y or Z. There's no way I can know what your best course of action is going forward.

I'll just say, given the only thing that really matters is your family, what you do from here on out will dictate what kind of man you are, rather than the fact that your company failed.

abhididdigi 16 hours ago 0 replies      
If you are in India, shoot an email at abhididdigi[at]gmail.com.
limaoscarjuliet 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Do you need some real, immediate help, as in food and other necessities? Do not have millions to spare, but can help with some things. How can I contact you?
hkbarton 16 hours ago 0 replies      
hey, it's not the end of the world, maybe you will gain huge if you found it's very hard this time. Don't give up!
ddmma 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Failure is a feedback
wellboy 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Doesn't matter bro, you can get a job at many startups with a $100,000 salary in the bay area now. Failure is valued in the valley.

You know life is just the blink of an eye and then we are buried 6 feet under, it doesn't matter, so keep it up, get some savings again and next startup. ;)

Shinden 16 hours ago 0 replies      
read the book Millionare fastlane. just google it it's available via electronic book version, Within that book it will tell you where you went wrong and hopefully it will steer you in the right direction.
tbarbugli 11 hours ago 0 replies      
startup blues
fastisslow 18 hours ago 1 reply      
rpddh9 16 hours ago 1 reply      
pls put up a paypal acc and we can all chip in..
jayrparro 18 hours ago 1 reply      
have faith! keep up!
weishgoname 17 hours ago 0 replies      
it will be alright! there is always a way out. Good Luck
r0ash 15 hours ago 0 replies      
My 2 cents would be to just focus on what services you can offer rightaway with your skill set and grab whatever leads you could.

#1 follow what zedshaw is offering to you and#2 if you think craigslist could help you bring some leads let me know what you can do and I will try to post ads for your service offering for you.#3 if you want to try earning (passive or something) online via some website, I can buy you domain + hosting + any script#4 [removed the text where I offered you monetary help, you must proof you are not a troll]

kellyphong76 15 hours ago 1 reply      
Dont want to hurt OP but seems like he is a troll, he just joined 7 days ago and made 500+ karma.

Would happy if he prove me wrong by writing in detail what he did and how did he failed, sympathetic people will be ready to rush money to him including myself, but dont want to be a victim of emotional blackmailing.

fiatjaf 17 hours ago 2 replies      
Seems like a troll.
spande 13 hours ago 0 replies      
@themanthatfell: I would like to offer you a solution to your problem. It may not seem like one, when you initially read it but I would request you to read it and try to apply it: http://findpo.com/secret-ingredient-actually-2/
Ask HN: Best Dotcom Bubble Stories
8 points by mergy  3 hours ago   7 comments top 5
SuperChihuahua 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Here's one from an interview with Chris Sacca (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6NpHbMFaQ8):

In the late 1990s, Chris Sacca used his student loan to start a company within the lawsuit industry - not to pay tuition. But he realized the idea was bad, he didn't have the skills needed, and he didn't have any investors. So before he ran out of money, he began day-trading stocks with the remaining money. This was during the buildup of the tech bubble so he made a huge profit from the trading. When the bubble exploded, his wealth decreased from 12 million to -2.8 million. His surroundings had convinced him that he was a stock market genius - so he thought he knew something. When the stock market crashed, he thought he was just unlucky. He was now 25 years old, no network, and had to find a way to make 2.8 million.

adventured 23 minutes ago 0 replies      
The US produced a lot of spectacular rise & fall billionaire stories, but none were greater than the two that Japan produced.

Masayoshi Son, of Softbank, hit a peak of $76 or so billion. Eventually dwindling down to $1.1 billion, a 'loss' of about $75 billion. Don't feel too bad for him though, perhaps fittingly given the discussion of a bubble again, he's back up to $16 billion in net worth and ascending (75% gain in wealth this past year).

Yasumitsu Shigeta was worth $42 billion at the peak of the bubble. Numerically he basically lost it all; what he had left was a rounding error. He was the founder of telecom company Hikari Tsushin. In 1999, he was Japan's youngest billionaire at 34. He's now back to being a billionaire again, 14 years later.


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meerita 3 hours ago 0 replies      
GovWorks? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GovWorks

They've made a movie too.

Mankhool 3 hours ago 1 reply      
One of my favourites is Boo.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boo.com
Need some career advice
5 points by kraorh  2 hours ago   6 comments top 6
timje1 2 hours ago 0 replies      
It may depend on what you can afford.

Pick up a smattering of modern web technologies (python, node.js, ruby is a nice idea) and join a small company / start up.This can be a shot in the arm; you'll have to wear many hats, and you might find one of these inspiring you better than the others. In a smaller company you might find yourself blogging for the company, writing copy for the website, doing a bit of design, a bit of requirements analysis, all sorts...

But this is only available to you if you're prepared to take a hit to salary - a start up that's prepared to take on someone switching paradigms won't pay as well as a C++ developer job.

_random_ 57 minutes ago 0 replies      
RoR is cool but it narrows down your career opportunities. I would learn a modern mainstream language as well, e.g. Scala or C#, they can be used outside of scope of small/medium size web apps.
jurgenwerk 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I was in exact same situation, only difference was C# instead of C++ ;). Man that job sucked, I often get very happy when I wake up in the morning simply because I don't work there anymore.

My advice: Leave that job as soon as possible.

I started attending various developer meetups and made some small projects that I could fit in my CV and talk about them. Career opportunities, new contacts and friends started to happen. RoR has an awesome community and the work these guys do is often interesting and engaging. Broaden your horizon, find like-minded people and soon you will find something nice that you could be a part of.

adammichaelc 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Shoot me an email. We are hiring iOS dev's and are willing to train the right folks. adam@mokriya.com
idoh 1 hour ago 0 replies      
iOS is really hot right now. Maybe parlay your C++ skills into learning Objective C and make some demo iOS apps.
sharemywin 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Build a ROR site for business contact. go to networking events. Go interview for something more interesting.
Today I completed my 30 technologies in 30 days challenge
4 points by shekhargulati  3 hours ago   2 comments top 2
davidsmith8900 34 minutes ago 0 replies      
Similar websites to Hacker News?
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scottcowley 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Ask HN: Best way to buy litecoins?
7 points by schrodinger  6 hours ago   8 comments top 4
27182818284 35 minutes ago 0 replies      
I'm having a heck of a time doing this right now. So far everything has failed for one reason or another. I think Litecoin local has promise, but that doesn't exist in most areas right now.
devonbarrett 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Exchanging BTC for LTC is the better option.

But https://litecoinlocal.org/ is good for small-medium transactions.

marco-fiset 3 hours ago 1 reply      
Don't buy them, mine them.
eminkel 5 hours ago 1 reply      
Buy BTC > Transfer BTC to BTC-E, Exchange BTC/LTC on BTC-E
Show HN: Make Microdonations to Charities via Intuit Customer Data API
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Ask HN: Does anyone have some good Career/Life Advice for an 18 year old
2 points by DoritosMan  4 hours ago   7 comments top 4
mcintyre1994 15 minutes ago 0 replies      
I'm in my second year of a computer science degree, and the advice I would give you is while programming is awesome and essential to succeed, there are really wordy (and mathy) topics that might not come as easily to you - finding the balance is the key.

Also you said that programming has come easily to you during school, and while I don't know the US school system you seem to be doing great; my advice is don't get complacent when you transition. It's way too easy to nail exams in school and then figure you can keep up without trying in university; for me it was a lot easier said than done. I don't know the community college->university system so maybe it'll be different, but it's something to keep in mind.

a3n 1 hour ago 0 replies      
You're doing good. Keep on doing that.

Good to have a job related to what you're doing, always good to be able to bring in money.

Good decision on CC to Uni. When you're in University you could look in to interning somewhere during the summer, and/or just getting a somewhat better part time job.

A good long term goal is to become independently wealthy, or a reasonable approximation, by sometime in your thirties. Even if you don't become independent, or it takes longer than your thirties, you'll be far better off from the attempt than otherwise.

So learn what that would take, and start executing on that as the backdrop to whatever you're doing in the foreground from year to year. It's not just maxing your salary, it's smart and minimal spending, saving, investing and opportunities. Pay attention to your finances.

auslegung 3 hours ago 1 reply      
The advice I give to everyone is to be well-versed in programming, and to avoid debt. Congratulations, looks like you are already on that path! I'd also recommend a trade that is relatively easy to get into, such as HVAC, and/or learning a second language that will likely be very valuable if you want to travel as a programmer, or to use for a career in translation.

The value of a trade is that it gives you an alternative if sitting at a cubicle for 2000+ hours a year drives you crazy. Plus, it's always good to be helpful. You may want to look into becoming decent at auto repair or carpentry. Those are things that typically have a much higher barrier of entry, and a lower salary than HVAC, but they're both always a helpful skill.

The value of a second language is it opens up travel opportunities, and if you choose an economically important language (Chinese, German, British "English" [I have no idea what they're saying...]) or a politically important languge (Middle Eastern languages), the pay can be quite high for translation.

Many here might think HVAC is a terrible idea, and they may be right, but I'd still recommend finding a trade and making it a hobby, like I mentioned with auto repair or carpentry. Learning a musical instrument is also a great way to improve your life in general. But for the most part, sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders, and you'll do well at whatever you choose, so long as you stick to it.

hakanderyal 2 hours ago 1 reply      
On programming/CS stuff: Build something. Anything. Start small, and work your way from there if you find it enjoyable.
Ask HN: What kind of side projects are you working on?
97 points by gembird  1 day ago   114 comments top 75
bpodgursky 1 day ago 1 reply      
Open-source visualization of our solar neighborhood: http://uncharted.bpodgursky.com/ source https://github.com/bpodgursky/uncharted
mmozuras 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Currently, my main side-project is Pronto, quick automated code-review tool: https://github.com/mmozuras/prontoIntend to make a SaaS from its current library form, at some point, also.

A couple of others on the back burner.

rakoo 2 hours ago 0 replies      
1. A gmail-inspired MUA: https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup

2. A bittorrent client in go: https://github.com/rakoo/taipei-torrent

3. A bittorrent-sync Libre alternative: https://github.com/rakoo/zinc

4. Yet another pubsubhubbub hub, this time in go: https://github.com/rakoo/psgb

evincarofautumn 1 day ago 0 replies      
Kitten, a programming language based on zero-cost abstractions (https://github.com/evincarofautumn/kitten). Competing in the same space as C++, Rust, and Nimrod. Statically typed, type-inferred, stack-based, higher-order, GC optional, with an effect system to manage side effects. Very much a work in progress, but you should stow it in your brain as a systems language to try in the future.
iamwil 1 day ago 1 reply      
1. Cubehero - Hosting 3D printed projects https://cubehero.com

2. Embossanova - Emboss images to surfaces in OpenSCAD https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/embossanova

3. Graftleaf and Graftweave - Graftconcept iPhone module back covers https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/graftleaf https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/graftweave

Sir_Cmpwn 1 day ago 0 replies      
Lots of them.

Open source implementation of Minecraft https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net

Reddit API wrapper https://github.com/SirCmpwn/RedditSharp

kernel written in z80 assembly https://github.com/KnightSoft/kernel

TI-8x emulator in javascript https://github.com/SirCmpwn/OpenTI

And lots more https://github.com/SirCmpwn

acesubido 1 day ago 1 reply      
A simple CSS/JS library recreating the Windows 8 Modal. Still working on tablet/mobile support (which im pretty sure is just a css style cursor: pointer;)


Another side project I'm currently in the process of designing:

Personal Problem: Me and my wife have some folders with so many random files. Too troublesome and time consuming maintaining it to be clean and organized. Pictures should be in a specific folder, installers in another one, etc. an example is the "Downloads Folder"

Solution: A small command-line utility that organizes a folder on where it runs from. This small command-line tool has only one parameter: a JSON file that contains "Rules" on what it will do on specific files. ex: .mp3's should be placed on a folder, .docs on another, etc. And so on and so forth. It could also come as an "installable" service/daemon that watches over folders. Still learning more about Scala, it's used in where I work, may write this command-line tool in that language for educational purposes.

kitsune_ 1 day ago 0 replies      
A columnar time series db with an lmdb backend - I have only just started and it us quite a struggle.

A map / tile server written in go. So far MapBox' mbtiles work.

This came from a peculiar interest of mine, whether my city needs yet another underground parking garage. So I started to scrape the public rss feed of the parking system. I have some gigs of data by now and RethinkDB is not as performant as I hoped it would be. There is no real query optimization as of yet.

What I want to visualize is whether you can find a parking spot at a certain point in time and reach a spot, for instance a shop, within a certain threshold by foot. In short, if you want to shop at XXX will you have trouble finding a parking spot?

fotcorn 1 day ago 0 replies      
Firefox OS port to the HTC One: https://github.com/firefoxos-htc-one

Round-based RPG Game written in Java/libGDX: https://github.com/andef4/adventure-game

Whatsapp for FirefoxOS written in TypeScript: https://github.com/andef4/ch.bfh.bti7054.w2013.p.fxos_whatsa...

All of them are still pre-alpha quality.

baruch 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm interested in finding more about disk failures (HDDs and SSDs), possibly with an eye to create an advance warning system for increased chance of multiple failures in a RAID system or the imminent failure of a single disk.

Blog is at http://blog.disksurvey.org/

Sub-parts on github: http://github.com/baruch/diskscan and http://github.com/baruch/disksurvey

agilebyte 1 day ago 3 replies      
Visualizing crime of a city I am moving into: https://github.com/radekstepan/deadmonton

GitHub Burndown Chart:https://github.com/radekstepan/github-burndown-chart

krapp 22 hours ago 0 replies      
http://precis.gopagoda.com/ a threaded outbound-link aggregator. It needs a lot of work but i'm hoping to turn it into something cool. Currently incredibly slow because it's on a pagodabox free account and has no caching whatsoever. Also bootstrap and most of the buttons don't do anything still.

also https://gist.github.com/kennethrapp/ccb392c399d72efd8b0d a terminally unfinished Hacker News userscript to handle block/unblock/following users.

younata 18 hours ago 0 replies      
I have been building this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6618834

It's been fun. :D

cruppstahl 1 day ago 0 replies      
http://hamsterdb.com - a C++ key/value store. hamsterdb is AFAIK the only key/value store which supports typed keys (i.e. uint32, uint64, blobs). under the hood the btree optimizes the memory layout for this type, just like a column store DBMS does. I'm now moving slowly towards adding analytical functions, but it's still a long way to go.
motiejus 1 day ago 1 reply      
Docker replacement with emphasis on tool reusability. Docker made incremental builds right, and I love the idea. However, it reimplemented the whole tooling around it instead of using what's in there.

It will support FreeBSD/ZFS/Jails and Linux/LVM|BTRFS|ZFS/LXC on the first release. My goal is to re-use existing tooling as much as possible.

I am writing it in Haskell.

darrenkopp 1 day ago 0 replies      
SassyStudio, provides much needed support for SCSS in Visual Studio.


Currently it supports compiling css (via libsass), syntax highlighting, outlining, and intellisense.

dmcswain 1 hour ago 0 replies      
A mobile web app (https://treycent.com) that lets you create voice-enabled question answering sites by tagging internet or intranet content with spoken questions. After a while you end up with a private Siri: a site capable of answering questions relevant to your team. Also working on a companion Google Glass app.
garrettdreyfus 19 hours ago 1 reply      
I just finished this weekend hack I really like.https://github.com/garrettdreyfus/LibstripperIt's a handy (i think) command line tool to extract the code you actually use from css libraries like bootstrap.

Not much compared to other comments here!

lowglow 1 day ago 0 replies      
1. A news/blogging platform: http://techendo.co

2. I also organize and run the san francisco hacker news meetup. http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Hacker-News-Meetup/

3. Dev school grading site: http://schools.techendo.co

4. Burrito: http://burrito.techendo.co

5. Tribes: http://tribes.techendo.co

6. Next up is an app that helps businesses find their distribution channels -- to be released in a week or two.

7. ..and finally a kickstarter for a hacker tool coming early next year.

Join us on #Techendo on freenode to chat. :)

JamieLewis 1 day ago 1 reply      
An open source stream processing framework (https://ghostream.com) - it isn't really ready for the limelight yet, but you can find the code base on github (https://github.com/ghostream/ghostream) - final steps on the to do list are a few more example projects, a couple more functional operators and to polish up the documentation.

It has hit the 80-20 scenario. The last 20% is taking 80% of the time :)But it has let me quickly prototype a few little ideas (http://jamielewis.me.uk/posts/2013-11-03-Mapping-Earthquakes...)

alashley 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm working on a mobile/web app that lets users track their medication intake. It will use nfc tags that you tap each time you take the medication, so there's no risk of taking it more than the recommended number of times daily. It will also keep track of an side-effects you experience and prompt you to call the nearest pharmacy for refills. At the moment, I think I will target Android for the mobile app.
eranation 1 day ago 0 replies      
Scala tutorials (http://scalatutorials.com) - it's a "try scala code in your browser" (powered by scalakata.com) and has a basic tour at the moment, but I'm working on making it more like try ruby / codecademy, much more work than I thought by the way
rythie 1 day ago 1 reply      
1. Helping people run faster: https://cleverrun.com

2. Stats about where you spend your time: https://clevergeo.com

3. Something with pebble and it's accelerometer, probably related to sports.

shadesandcolour 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm working on an iOS app that lets you manage and edit Jekyll websites on Github. check it out https://github.com/bringel/staticly
prezjordan 23 hours ago 0 replies      
Cleaver: 30-second slideshows for hackers


captn3m0 1 day ago 0 replies      
Open source github based jekyll blog editor that runs completely on client side. [1]A CRM system, and a designer collaboration tool.

[1]: https://github.com/captn3m0/potion

japhyr 1 day ago 0 replies      
An open teaching and learning resource for Python: http://introtopython.org

(source: https://github.com/ehmatthes/intro_programming)

amrit_b 1 day ago 1 reply      
I made embedding transcoded videos as simple as using the <img> tag --> http://transcode.io

Working on the production version atm.

david927 1 day ago 0 replies      
Brodlist: making it possible to query semantic data in a way that's easy and fun.

Kaya: A new paradigm in software construction.

Boldewyn 1 day ago 1 reply      
Almost all of the little spare time I have goes into http://Codepoints.net, presenting and explaining Unicode codepoints.

Edit: The page is fully open source: https://github.com/Boldewyn/Codepoints.net

mildavw 1 day ago 1 reply      

Started as a joke among my dev team and we've now sold a few shirts and plan on developing the idea.

wturner 19 hours ago 0 replies      
I just started this web audio app to see if I could make something that translates well to tablet devices, and help me learn php. The server isn't hooked up but the front end works. http://helpknow.com/snd
intellectronica 1 day ago 0 replies      
A youtube-based jukebox server in dart: https://github.com/rounds/jukebox-mode

We use it at the office to queue songs a chatroom and listen together.

fbnt 1 day ago 0 replies      
A News reading App based on the most popular news stories being shared in real time on Twitter: http://newspo.st
NicoJuicy 1 day ago 0 replies      
A personal automated email sender, using vars and conditional statements (Eg. Multiple languages are possible, we live in a country where most of them speak: french, dutch, german or english, so that's a big + over here).

Create a poll (or mail) and mail them to clients when you sold for > 1000 should be an option :)

It's actually meant to get feedback (automated) from clients with a more personal touch or to follow up on a sale of 1 month ago (how the car is, ...)

glazskunrukitis 1 day ago 0 replies      
I built a SSL certificate store GetSSL.me[0] and so far it has been really great. Our goal is to make SSL certificates available to everyone.

[0] https://getssl.me/

stevekemp 1 day ago 1 reply      
A system to test blog/forum-comments for spam in real-time: http://blogspam.net/

A list of pubs in Edinburgh: http://edinburgh.io/

A mail client: http://lumail.org/

abengoam 1 day ago 0 replies      
I am tired of repeating this again and again, so I am doing some yak shaving and creating a hosted rest service for managing user accounts and authentication. I will use it as basic infrastructure for future projects.
daliusd 1 day ago 0 replies      
Last weekend I have created http://microbezilla.sandbox.lt/.

Now I'm working on HTML5 turn-based strategy multiplayer game about space pirates.

dazzla 1 day ago 0 replies      
Deal Drop (and now Tech Drop) - iOS/Android shopping apps http://www.getdealdrop.com Been working on it for a few years. Nice side income but still trying to grow it to be my main income.
caulagi 1 day ago 1 reply      
1. A community driven listing of events around you - http://sntd.pw - https://github.com/caulagi/sntd

2. A website for children to share their toys - http://toystori.com - https://github.com/caulagi/toystori

warcode 1 day ago 0 replies      
Streaming Twitter client in javascript since the last one I used died. Early version at https://deny.io/river/
mooted1 1 day ago 0 replies      
Computer algebra system that yields the steps it takes to produce a result. Mainly intended as an educational tool to help teach math. This is actually my first side project since I (re)learned to program a few months agoeverything I'm using to build this I learned at work.
louyang 1 day ago 0 replies      
News search engine: http://wintria.comJava applet games (from a while ago): http://codelucas.com/pages/rocketboy.htmlhttp://codelucas.com/pages/island-overlord.html

Trying to learn some js gaming engines though.

jamesbritt 23 hours ago 0 replies      
A double-album (more or less) of songs and dance music.
dlhavema 23 hours ago 0 replies      
Multiplayer Acquire client/server (android/php-mysql)
amarraja 1 day ago 0 replies      
A UK based price and product tracking site (http://salr.io)

Almost there, but I've been working on it solo, and development stalled for a bit whilst I struggled with motivational issues and analysis paralysis. Hope to get something MVP-able very soon!

preddict 1 day ago 0 replies      
A site for people to record their predictions, to say whether they agree or not with other people's predictions and later to see who was right.Let's see who can predict the best what will happen in the world!


qzervaas 1 day ago 1 reply      
I've just started a site that aggregates open public transit data feeds. It lets you quickly see differences between feed versions, discover new feeds, and I'm working on APIs to easily bring in better real time data into apps


hackNightly 21 hours ago 0 replies      
A hosted call center solution using Node.js and RethinkDB
bearbin 1 day ago 0 replies      
MCServer, a open-source minecraft server:


davedx 1 day ago 0 replies      
An invoice management app

A multiplayer RPG in JavaScript

obsurvey 1 day ago 1 reply      
Interesting reading about all your projects. I'm working on http://muscula.comLog JavaSript errors in production. It installs like Google Analytics.
timmy-turner 1 day ago 0 replies      
A terminal emulator - https://github.com/hoeck/schirm - using a browser to render the screen, allowing programs to use HTML and Javascript as an alternative output (via a CGI like interface).
kranner 1 day ago 0 replies      
Speed-reading iOS app for ePub http://velocireaderapp.com
shaunrussell 1 day ago 1 reply      
My current side project is http://upbeatapp.com, working on it with two co-workers, and having some success.

Been having fun with Go-lang koans and Angular.js uiRouter as well.

watermel0n 1 day ago 0 replies      
I am working on Readbox (https://www.readbox.co). It's a news reader founded in collaboration with University of Naples Federico II.
igvadaimon 1 day ago 0 replies      
International social network for freedivers - http://theabyss.de/

With buddyfinder, user blogs, as well as list of freediving spots and events.

pdrummond 1 day ago 0 replies      
An Android game called Foobit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6800828
mikeroher 1 day ago 2 replies      
I'm making an online store in Rails for a specific target market (have to be vague). I'm building it mostly on my own and I'm looking for a second developer to help me out.
git-pull 1 day ago 0 replies      
git/hg/svn repo mass-updater from a YAML / JSON file. http://pullv.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html

tmux workspace manager in python. JSON / YAML configs. session workspace freezing.http://tmuxp.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html

philipb 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm making an offsite status page SaaS: https://statusutils.comIts in beta, and I could use some feedback :)
ds_ 1 day ago 0 replies      
A service that allows single page ajax applications to be indexed with minimal effort http://crawlspa.com
anuaitt 1 day ago 0 replies      
Sharing Gmail Tasks gmailsharedtasks.com
300 1 day ago 0 replies      
Trying to build soomething which can help to job seekers: http://besthi.re/
Leander_B 1 day ago 0 replies      
Private tech recruitment community: http://likewise.io
Vektorweg 1 day ago 0 replies      
Actually, i work on curve-based rasterization, to build a game later on it.
mm4p 1 day ago 0 replies      
My pet project is the development of the concept of "mind map for programming" (mm4p). It is a mix between literate programming and visual programming with the capacity to work with text file and any programming language you want.

My feel good project is Sahana Eden.

ibarrajo 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm making a social sharing application, dedicated to street food vendors, it's called tacotuyo.. very early in development still (about 20 hrs in) http://tacotuyo-elninja.rhcloud.com
mesrine 1 day ago 0 replies      
1) Internet-Side for Magic Cards2) little JavaScript-Game
matiasb 1 day ago 0 replies      
Co-browsing solution with go & redis
jlepis 21 hours ago 0 replies      
WriteTracker - A resource for writer's to track the submission process as well as find potential markets to submit their work. http://www.writetracker.com
ra00l 1 day ago 0 replies      
simple image optimization app: http://www.imgoptimize.com
markosaurus 1 day ago 0 replies      
A console so we can share the API data from our Bitcoin asic miner without allowing access to the console.

Soon to have google charts implemented.

hagope 1 day ago 1 reply      
a better trash can
Ask HN: Would a "union" of programmers work to end patent trolls?
13 points by eof  1 day ago   8 comments top 5
biff 1 day ago 1 reply      
I like the concept. That we both feel the need to put quotes around "union" suggests the term might be too loaded to use for programmers, but fixing that's as simple as hanging a label on it like "Independent Programmers For Innovation".

Of course, you give it a title like that, you almost have to turn it into a PAC at some point...

ultimoo 1 day ago 0 replies      
ACM's Software Engineering Code of Ethics[1] is great place to start.

[1] http://www.acm.org/about/se-code

wlesieutre 1 day ago 2 replies      
Unlike a factory, patent trolls don't need you to work for them. If it's just a lawyer in an office, what's your bargaining power?
lightblade 1 day ago 0 replies      

Create a github account/repo on this. Write the initial draft. Discussions goes into issues. Changes in pull request. Signing by staring the repo.

meerita 1 day ago 0 replies      
The problem is the patent model itself.
Ask HN: What habit have you dropped or picked up that improved your life?
57 points by jkchang  2 days ago   126 comments top 51
lessnonymous 2 days ago 2 replies      
Stopped reading and watching "The News". What a waste of time. If there's something important, someone will tell me about it.
gmays 2 days ago 0 replies      
- No TV (and no news). Stopped watching years ago, spend more time on productive things.

- No video games. I binge and play again for maybe 1 week a year.

- Spend free time with wife, because that's all she really wants.

- Workout 4-5 days a week. Lift early between 10am and 3pm, whenever I reach a good stopping point. Listen to Mixergy or similar podcast during workout. Do cardio in the evening (between 7pm and 10pm) and sit on the bike for 30 min to 1hr and read.

- Sleep 7-9 hrs/night.

- Never set an alarm.

- No alcohol, tobacco, drugs, coffee, or tea. Ever. Might sound crazy, but it's not hard since I just never started.

- Don't blog or use Twitter.

- Cut hair weekly (short haircut, cut it myself), shave almost daily (whenever I go somewhere). A military habit, but when you look good, you feel good.

- Had a few close calls while deployed (was a Marine for 8 yrs) and learned life is too precious and too short to do anything but my best work and left the Marine Corps as soon as I returned from my last deployment. I started making decisions based on what I'd regret the least, regardless of outcome.

aegiso 2 days ago 6 replies      
10K run every day and 10 hours of sleep.

The productivity gains are in the 2-3x range.

cprncus 2 days ago 5 replies      
Flossing religiously. I used to be Bleeding Gums Murphy, but no more. A dental hygienist showed me the proper way to floss and now I will get up at 4am if I somehow forgot to floss before bedtime, go into the bathroom, and floss. I've only missed once in 7+ years. Bad gums are associated with heart disease, tooth loss, and other nasty effects. No thanks.

Quitting, after 30+ years, saying, "God bless you" (or really, "Gahblessyou") automatically after someone sneezes. If you stop and think about how dumb this is, it feels really good to break this ridiculous cultural habit. I've been "clean" from this for 2+ years now.

argonaut 2 days ago 0 replies      
Stopped playing video games and stopped regularly watching TV or TV shows (though I still enjoy movies and TV shows, I don't make it part of my schedule). Biggest waste of time during my teenage years.
portmanteaufu 2 days ago 0 replies      
Regular exercise.

I did a CS master's degree at night while working a full time job programming. After sitting 9 hours at work, I'd sit a few hours in class and then sit a few hours doing homework. After three years, I was a wreck. As soon as I graduated, a buddy of mine spurred me to join a gym with him.

Now I do heavy lifting 3 times per week and interval training 2-3 times per week. I'm not the healthiest eater (maybe I'll fix that next), but I feel great. There's something indescribably satisfying about breaking your own records.

It doesn't matter which exercise you pick. The benefit you get from doing something over nothing is enormous. The important thing is that you do something that you like enough to stick with. As a non-competitive athlete, I find that fitness is 80% attendance.

bjourne 2 days ago 6 replies      
I stopped using shampoo and conditioner. It's the best fashion advice I've ever had and it's funny that it came from a hn article. Better looking hair, better protection against cold, no more dandruff, much smaller dry scalp patches and so on. Thanks HN!
Gigablah 2 days ago 0 replies      
Started eating better. More fresh vegetables and lean meat, less sugar, a lot less carbs. Dropped 28 pounds so far. Huge boost to my self-esteem.
sentinel 2 days ago 2 replies      
Picking up the habit of working regularly on side-projects.

I am lucky enough to have a couple of friends interested in working on the same project as myself. The habit of all of us getting together for a couple of hours during the weekend has tremendously advanced the project.

It helps to work with friends or people in general, because it rarely happens that none of us are in the mood for working. And when we are, we pull the other ones in.

For about a year before starting this, I would only ever so often sit down to advance the project, but after starting this 1-2 times per week get-together with them, the project has improved (complete code refactoring + 2 versions out on the App Store), in about 3 months.

As well, myself, I have improved as a programmer and have gotten a rekindled interest in programming. I think my friends can agree that it has affected them similarly.

shubhamjain 2 days ago 0 replies      
Despite having a very long wish list of things I long for to do, I am usually in for redditing, reading HN, sitcoms, booze and weed. I hadn't opened Sublime for past two months, neither read anything nor any activity faintly productive.

After reading an amazing article [1], I have beginning to feel an amazing happiness with everything I am doing now and it just so simple. The trick is to ask yourself every time you start doing something: "What I will be doing now, Will it help me in future in anyway?". Of course, you must not drag yourself to despise everything not related to higher gains but realize that life in the future is function of what you do now, and the decisions you make.

[1]: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/10/27/procrastination/

sillysaurus2 2 days ago 3 replies      
Writing like pg.
skwosh 2 days ago 1 reply      
Fasting (< 500cal) two or three times a week is rapidly decreasing my volume, and bringing increased mental clarity and alertness. It's a good rhythm to get into, has a pretty dramatic (positive) effect on how I feel, and it's a nice way to atone for yesterday...
elwell 1 day ago 0 replies      
Dropped: porn and reddit (though I'm still on HN obviously)
mikeg8 2 days ago 2 replies      
Reading. I never used to open a book for more than 20 minutes but once I started reading books I actually enjoyed (Gladwell, Freakenomics, other books related to business, personal growth, human behavior etc) I realized what an amazing habit it is. You learn a lot, work your brain, give the eyes a break from a screen and you can take a good book/kindle anywhere. No power needed. Start reading books.
sathishmanohar 2 days ago 0 replies      
Taming my lizard brain.

I was going to through a Seth Godin Book, In which he talk about amygdala, the part of the brain responsible for fight or flight instincts.

After that I started thinking, most of the things I worry about doesn't end up happening. But, I was constantly worrying about it. Sometimes I wont go to business oriented community meet ups, just because my lizard brain throws some 'what if that happens' at me.

Recognizing that part of my thoughts and reacting only to things that really needed my attention helped tremendously in shaping my time, focus and work then on.

davidsmith8900 2 days ago 0 replies      
- I stopped trying to control life. Started focusing on how I can make the best of what Im presented in life.
kiyanforoughi 2 days ago 0 replies      
Switching off the sound my phone makes each time I receive an email, text or messaging notification.

I also stopped checking my email actively in the evening (only once before going to sleep to make sure there are no emergencies) and I try not to touch it more than once on Saturdays.

I have such a clearer mindset now these days.

Try it! You'll see.

contextual 2 days ago 0 replies      
Study the Bible and/or Zen poetry every morning, preferably before reading anything else.
bbissoon 2 days ago 1 reply      
I stopped relying on my cellphone so often. It feels good not to be a slave to every "Ding!" or "Beep!" that I hear.

I also got back in my old SEGA games and cooking food my mom used to make when I was a kid.

I grew up in church but slacked because life got hectic. Now I'm attending when I can, I'll read the Bible in off time and I've made myself more available to help others.

This might sound stupid, but it's something about the times where all I could do is go outside and play football in the park with my friends that I miss. Now with my younger siblings, I see them so attached to technology, it makes me sad that they're so trapped and in tuned with news and post from people they'll probably never meet instead of the people they're in front of every day...

sfrechtling 2 days ago 0 replies      
I now sleep more (> 7 hours a night). Amazing gains in what I notice - and how much easier it is to think. Like running downhill.
kfk 2 days ago 0 replies      
Travelling on a kayak (Passau-Bratislava in 2012 and Krakow-Gdansk in 2013). Both the memories and the planning for the future trips (Iceland 2014!) give me something to hold on to during the dark moments. Previously I used to travel by bike, but I had stopped that for 3 years before picking up kayaking.
kennethtilton 1 day ago 0 replies      
It was a long time ago, but I used a golf scoring gadget to keep count of my daily driving excesses. Counting a behavior changes it. The awareness broke the habit. Improvements of course were to the number of points on my license and the safety of all.
mping 2 days ago 0 replies      
Started to practice genuine Shaolin QiGong & Shaolin Kung Fu. Got lucky with the master I found. Been practicing for 7 years, wouldn't trade it for a pile of gold. It just enables me to do everything better. I mean everything. Most of the ordinary day-to-day stuff doesn't bother me so much. I don't waste as much time as before doing useless things.

Also reduced the amount of TV/Internet time; started to eat vegetarian practically every day.

<shameless plug> I built this app just for that: https://routinetap.com. I'm working on a pure js version.</shameless>

kszx 2 days ago 2 replies      
(1.) Eat well, drink well, sleep well, work well.

(2.) Quantified self: Targeting productive and unproductive time with RescueTime, and committing to explicit targets with Beeminder.

(3.) Less but better. Less input but better input. Less output but better output. Afford the luxury of being slow and having time for introspection and inspiration.

(4.) When you can't sleep, don't try to.

lexandstuff 2 days ago 0 replies      
Giving up high sugar foods completely (no soft drink, candy, dessert etc). I went from battling colds year round to almost never getting them.
markyc 2 days ago 0 replies      
quit fapping


Nanzikambe 2 days ago 0 replies      
Stopped eating fast food and drinking any artificial flavored/sweetened/preserved drinks (exception beer).

Closely linked: learned to cook for myself and making an effort to cook something I've never tried once a week.

pearjuice 1 day ago 0 replies      
I stopped eating regular meals and live of a cup of black unsugared coffee, a cup of water and a daily switched apple or can of tuna in natural olive oil. I haven't felt healthier in years. Regular meals are not necessary to survive and with this diet you will save a lot of money, feel healthier and become spiritually awakened.
waltercfilho 2 days ago 3 replies      
Stopped adding sugar to my hot drinks, completely.
4lun 2 days ago 0 replies      
Disconnected the TV from the aerial. I now watch a fraction of TV that I used to (via streaming or personal library).

I used to waste so much time watching reruns and trash TV just because it was there when I turned the TV on.

talles 2 days ago 1 reply      
1. Going to the gym as the first thing in the morning.

2. Saying "No" more often.

meerita 2 days ago 1 reply      
I quit smoke, also, quit eating outside. The improvements were impressive:

1. Better sleep.2. Better weight control.3. Skin stopped being dry.4. Better sex life too.5. Good energy.

I never measure my work productivity.

kapowaz 2 days ago 1 reply      
Stopped reading Hacker News.
kopos 2 days ago 2 replies      
I started waking up at 5.30 in the morning. Code for about an hour and then go for an early morning walk with my spouse for another.
ereckers 2 days ago 1 reply      
Dropped politics, picked up a good office chair.
uptownJimmy 2 days ago 0 replies      
For me, it was a tidy set of lifestyle choices that I made, all at once:

1. Stopped drinking.2. Started running three miles every morning, crack of dawn.3. Stopped watching TV.4. Cut out almost all junk/fast food.

The change in my productivity and general sense of well-being has been profound.

zupitor 2 days ago 0 replies      
Started practicing touch typing a year back. Doubled my typing speed from 30wpm to 60wpm.
tzaman 2 days ago 0 replies      
Starting a Keto diet
JoelAnair 2 days ago 0 replies      
Psychedelic drugs. They help keep priorities in order and aid creativity by forcing you to examine different points of view and approach problems from different angles.
ragatskynet 2 days ago 1 reply      
I started running and waking up earlier. They looked so big to begin with but they were very very easy to adopt. Now i am trying to finally quit smoking once and for all.
clockwork_189 2 days ago 0 replies      
1) Pomodoro Technique while working on tasks2) Running "StayFocused" on the background while doing tasks.
melancholy 2 days ago 0 replies      
Drinking green tea helped triple my water intake. Sharply cutting carbohydrates from my diet.Lifting weights 3X a week.

I am in better physical and mental shape than ever before.

miriadis 1 day ago 0 replies      
- Not taking so seriously my career.- Practicing a sport, in my case swimming.
rjurney 2 days ago 0 replies      
Anapana and Vipassana meditation during insomnia.
g2guo 1 day ago 0 replies      
I have been building micro-habits that make small increments in improving my life. I am currently working on three things: reading, exercising and coding; every day in my personal spare time. I use an iOS app to track progress (Way of Life). The key is to make them easy to accomplish so you do them everyday and it becomes a habit that can grow into something more difficult.
rusabd 2 days ago 0 replies      
it seems almost everyone disconnect himself from the economy in some way to improve lifestyle. I myself stopped consuming sugar, started lifting weights, got married, got kids, learned how to make sourdough bread, kefir, how to build bicycle wheel, how to slaughter animal, how to keep bees... Wow it is a lot for the 3 years :)
jonwhittlestone 2 days ago 1 reply      
I haven't yet - but I'm planning to ban the smart phone and tablet computer from the bedroom.
gembird 2 days ago 0 replies      
less worrying about being next billion dollar app and focusing on critical thinking
alejantrot 2 days ago 1 reply      
Quitting smoking. Best habit I ever had. It improves my life every time I pick it up.
kraorh 2 days ago 1 reply      
Started jogging. Its helping me stay active the whole day and sleep better.
blibble 2 days ago 0 replies      
soft drinks
Ask HN: Where am I lacking with my script sales?
2 points by florettewaldor  8 hours ago   7 comments top 3
OGC 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/teemya/r0ash.com/demo/reform/source/lib/recaptchalib.php on line 254

clicking features, then reCaptcha.

More in general: There is not a single line of text explaining (on the demo page) why i should buy this.

Speculative: I think there are typo3 extensions / wordpress plugins doing the same stuff. Maybe you should branch out to these.

maaarghk 7 hours ago 1 reply      
I have had a quick look and I would say where you are lacking is the product, sadly. I would say that it seems to me to be a child of it's time. Go onto any modern site and try to find me a form which looks like that. There are now also free alternatives such as jquery ui, bootstrap which are very popular; that isn't just because they have great features (which they do) - they are also pretty. Does this do ajax? Could it be any faster? Real time? Prettier? It's just... outdated, sorry. Sorry I don't have time to look at your questions really but I hope this helps.
florettewaldor 7 hours ago 0 replies      
One more thing to add. A similar script on same marketplace is selling quite good with almost similar features. So personally I think, thats not the real issue behind low sales, still community comments are really appreciated. Kindly keep them coming.
Ask HN: Have you had trouble getting a job after a failed startup?
76 points by throwaway1979  2 days ago   73 comments top 35
jasonkester 2 days ago 3 replies      
The short answer is no. Trying and failing at a startup probably won't ruin your chances of ever getting another job.

But here's the thing. Hiring is not an exact science. There are tons of variables in play beyond simple work experience and skill set. There's a whole art to negotiating employment (from the employee side) that most programmer types just don't get at all.

Engineers want everything to be a skills test. But in reality, skills come roughly 18th in a hiring situation, way behind questions like "did this candidate tell me any amusing anecdotes?", "was this candidate tall?", and "did this candidate say anything that inadvertently made me look bad?" Somewhere further down the list you might indeed find "did this candidate try to strike out on his own and fail?", but it'll be lost in the noise.

So if you want to work on something, work on your "being a guy that a CTO would want to have a beer with" skills. That, combined with a bit of networking, will often let you skip the "previous work experience" and "resume" portions of the hiring process entirely.

paulbjensen 2 days ago 2 replies      
I was let go from a social networking startup because I wasn't implementing features as fast as they wanted. At the time it felt like a death sentence on my career as a programmer.

I spent about a week in the doldrums, but then I felt angry, and decided I wasn't going to let their decision define me. I decided to build an app to show what I could do.

I spent 2 1/2 months building an app called Dashku. It was a realtime dashboard, and when I put it on Hacker News, it went to #1 within 45 minutes, and then the server fucked up because the ulimit config on the app server (which I had set but not persisted between reboots) was 1024, and got the flak I deserved for not making sure that the ulimit config has persisted when I configured the machines.

After doing it, these things happened:

- Bechtel contacted me and asked if they could use it internally. They did.

- I had a meeting with Geckoboard. They asked if I wanted to work for them, and I offered to sell Dashku to them. No bite.

- I interviewed at Forward Labs in London. I had about 4 interviews in the space of 2-3 days, but did not get the job offer. I failed to refactor a fill detection algorithm which was functional and fully tested, but memory inefficient. I had stayed up all night to crack it, slept for 2 hours and had no food when I came in for the interview and was asked to refactor it.

ProTip: Sleep well and eat before you go for an interview, otherwise your brain suffers for it.

Eventually, I got a job in London working for webcasting company, and then open sourced Dashku. Here's what happened next:

- Ninja Blocks gave me a free Ninja Block, and asked me if I would like to work with them.

- An Indian health startup asked to integrate Dashku into their IoT robotics app.

- A BI startup basically took Dashku, slapped a coat of paint on it, and called it their own.

- Another IoT startup asked to use it.

- An energy company told me they were going to drop Geckoboard for my app.

- I discovered a professional social network (called Viadeo) had created a wonderful collection of widgets for it.


- I got an email from someone at Facebook, they said that they were evaluating it for internal use, and asked me if I would like to interview with them in California.

I had to decline as my mother has health problems and I could not move to another country.

All of this, within 14 months of being fired from a startup.

Failure feels like crap, but don't let it define who you are; you have to move on and prove to yourself and to others what you can achieve. I've done that now and found peace with that period in my life.

I should probably thank the guy who fired me.

sfjailbird 2 days ago 1 reply      
For big corporations, having been an entrepreneur is a negative on your resum. They will assume (probably correctly) that you prefer to work on your own, and that you will be less of a heads-down, "team player" type engineer which is easy to manage/throw around. Like it or not, the IT field is largely made up of this type of position. If you are applying such a place you should remove, spin or tone down your entrepreneurial endeavors.

For nimbler and more clued-in companies it will likely be a positive, since they are usually happy to have someone who doesn't settle for a comfortable desk jockey position at a corporation, and can handle the turmoil of younger companies. Only thing to be aware of is if you are applying for a technical position, they usually want someone who is happy to fill that niche, i.e. not a jack-of-all-trades who can code but also wants to be a salesman and a marketer etc. (Unless you are employee number one or two or somesuch).

These are lessons learned over a decade of being a corporate consultant, a freelancer, a startup employee and a startup founder.

igorgue 2 days ago 1 reply      
I had someone turn me down for a programming job because they said my GPA was too high

That's called a lie. Similar to the it wasn't a good fit one, most of the time there's another reason, maybe you weren't not that great of a programmer, or they didn't like your editor or tools.

From 10 years of experience working for a lot of companies and starting and failing some companies I can tell you, if they like you, they'll hire you even if you're an ex-convict. At a company I worked at we hired a guy with a recent conviction (battery). Great programmer nonetheless and he said was trying to get his shit together. There was something weird about him, like he smoked crack in the morning... But hey, he wrote good code and was never a problem, in fact he was the first one in the office.

USNetizen 2 days ago 0 replies      
Employers find any reason possible to turn someone down if they want to. It sounds like in your case it was just an excuse on their part. If you just don't "fit in" with the culture of the organization they will try to find something tangible to deny you to save face (and for possible legal reasons).

IMO regarding the startup thing, it all depends on what/who/where you are interviewing for. I've talked with hiring managers who saw it as a major asset and others who saw it as being akin to an excuse for being unemployed for a couple years. It all revolves around the manager's perception of entrepreneurship. It's not a global perspective but rather much more individual.

tomasien 2 days ago 0 replies      
Having done a startup has significantly increased my job opportunities, in fact took them from roughly 0 to roughly I could have whatever job I want in my field any time. In the United States, things are incredibly different from Japan, your resume is rapidly becoming what you're done.

If you're worried about failing as a startup, consider that the company failing won't mean that the PRODUCT failed - you may fail with a beautiful product that people love and use that attains reach that many profitable companies can not. The only way I can see failure as a startup to be seen as a negative is if you did something unethical or built absolute crap, or perhaps didn't launch at all.

onion2k 2 days ago 1 reply      
After Usable failed I applied for several jobs and was turned down by more than one for sounding likely I'd get bored and leave after a few months. It's a fair comment - once you've experienced the freedom of the startup industry going back to a normal job is tough.
gozmike 2 days ago 0 replies      
Failing is hard. It hurts. You go into a tailspin of destruction.

If you built up skills that are marketable and achieved great things along the way, you'll be pleasantly surprised - I came out worth almost 2x on the market as what I did when I quit. It was incredible.

That said, being an entrepreneur will change you - you will become a maverick, you will lose your fear of authority, you will be a value creator as you're so used to the survival mentality you used to foster in your startup. This alone justifies why any company that cares about innovation would want you leading their team.

fmavituna 2 days ago 1 reply      
As an employer I'm quite cautious about hiring people who previously ran one or more startups. The chances they've got the "Entrepreneurial Bug".

The obvious advantage is that it's quite likely that they'll be well rounded, knows different stuff and got lots of experience in the world, there are tons of great skills especially found in founders.

At the same time the chances are he/she will be leaving the company after 9 months, because she just discovered "the next best thing" and want to work on that because she saved some money in the last 9 months. I try to talk the person and understand what's the long term plan, whether they are actually committed or just want to take a breath and get financially better in between projects.

VLM 2 days ago 0 replies      
"I'm not worried about the major markets (Silicon Valley and New York) but about the rest."

I've worked for employers that have gone out of business but not as an entrepreneur. I've never worked more than 300 miles from Chicago. No one cares, no resume stain. You're going to have a lot of trouble collecting more than anecdotes.

Outside major markets, the market is smaller and subjectively better connected and personal relationships are going to be pretty important. People will know you and what you personally did and that narrative is going to be more important than the narrative in company financial papers etc.

iends 2 days ago 0 replies      
Craft a narrative about your startup experiences that addresses any concerns the hiring company may have.

For example, when the startup I worked for ended abruptly while I was out of the country (and came back without a job), it was easy for me to talk about wanting more stability in jobs I interviewed with.

I also talked about working til 2am regularly, and hoping to scale back those hours to something more reasonable so that I could spend time with my wife.

When I knew the company I was interviewing with had better technical processes, I talked about getting overwhelmed that it was standard practice to push to production at 3am when nobody was using the service and debug things live.

Would I use the same narrative when interviewing with another startup? No. Instead I talk about loving the flexibility to work until 2am, being able to eat lunch with my wife more while working from home, and not having to jump through hoops to deploy code to production.

peterjancelis 2 days ago 0 replies      
I had no trouble finding a job as a developer after being a business guy turned startup founder.

And to be honest I agree with the bias that ex-founder types may not be the most stable of employees.

jpeg_hero 2 days ago 0 replies      
In a word: yes.

It ain't all roses. You can find that it f's up your resume.

Example: maybe your startup takes 5-yrs to fail. Maybe for year 3 and the last half of year 5 you just kind of wallowed around the house, and didn't do much.

You will try to start circulating again and trying to get a job because your savings are gone. You'll find things quite different in 2019 ( do the math). There are different people in the hiring positions with different mind sets, looking for different skills.

This is just one example of how things can go bad.

But, for me, it's worth it to take the risk.

mathattack 2 days ago 0 replies      
It would be worth noting geography in the answers to these questions. Japan is very different than Silicon Valley in terms of work culture and expectations. Silicon Valley is very different than Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Interesting question, I hope it gets some traction.

troels 2 days ago 0 replies      
In big corporates, your startup experience might not count for much, but I doubt that many places would consider it a downright negative. For SMB's I would expect it to count as a positive. At least when I have been hiring (in SMB's) I would certainly prefer a developer who had some non-tech perspective over someone who's strictly technically strong. A lot of programming jobs are really something like 20% programming and 80% figuring out what the customer wants.
timharding 2 days ago 0 replies      
I interviewed someone who had a failed startup. He couldn't tell me what he would do differently if he was to do it all over again. It didn't fill me with confidence that he's learned anything during the experience.

Make sure you can answer that question when you start interviewing.

mkramlich 2 days ago 0 replies      
My general rule is that if someone wants it to work, it will. if they truly want you, they will. many people, arguably everybody, is interacting more with the mental contstructs in their head than with the physical reality and true nature of the other party. Last person with qualities X burned you? The next person you see with qualities X you'll superimpose upon them that expectation, and treat them accordingly, perhaps causing a self-fulfilling prophecy. Do both parties want to come to some arrangement where they engage in mutual tangible reciprocity? Then they will. But if at least one party does not, it won't happen. The "takes two to tango" phenomenon, or the logical AND operator. But you only have control over yourself, not another party. You can try to communicate better, you can try to reduce your exposure to being falsely bitten/categorized, but you can never eliminate it. Everybody brings their own baggage to a relationship, whether personal, business or employment-wise.
jmngomes 2 days ago 0 replies      
I'd venture in saying that if recruiters have any kind of idea of what it is to build a startup, they'll consider it a major plus. That being said, and considering what you usually see from recruiters, I'd say they'd have to be in a startup to know...

At a startup you're put into a situation where you are under major pressure and you're constantly faced with tough/unsolved problems and or all imaginable difficulties when it comes to sales. This can be an amazing growth experience, depending on how you deal with it. 7 months into my startup, I find that I've grown by leaps and bounds when compared to my former jobs, where I was already quite entrepreneurial.

As to an eventual stigma in the UK, it's only worse in other EU countries; I know it is in mine. Here, people are more valued for obedience rather than for entrepreneurial attitude.

rada 2 days ago 0 replies      
I'm not worried about the major markets (Silicon Valley and New York) but about the rest.

I am in Minneapolis and my resume has "founder" on it. I've had no problems finding employment. In my current job, it actually helped me get hired: my boss specifically wanted to assemble a team of entrepreneurially minded people. In my previous job, it didn't help but it didn't hurt either. So my personal anecdata says it's not a problem at all.

tbrownaw 2 days ago 0 replies      
Anything that shows initiative is a large plus (other things we care about are basic techical competence and, and jasonkester said, whether we like talking to you). Working at a startup probably shows some amount of initiative, since said startup wouldn't keep you around otherwise. Showing less initiative (and less apparent willingness to learn) would mean you would need to show greater technical skills.
DenisM 2 days ago 0 replies      
There are amazingly few first-hand accounts in this thread, and far too many "I do/do not think it should, because I imagine blah...".
meira 1 day ago 1 reply      
I'm having some bad times seeking for a job after my startup failed. But I can talk only about my experience and the brazillian startup ecossystem.

I worked on Engarte for the last 2 years. In this 2 years, I learned a lot about startup management and growth, but on the other hand, my technical skills stuck in time.

But I don't feel like this is the main reason for the troubles in finding a job. Headhunters seems to get a little scared when they realize that as soon as I can, I'll start another project. And so, they think that I'll not be in the company in the next 1 or 2 years. Perhaps we don't have a lot of successful startups in Brazil, the failure is threatened in a very bad way here, very different from the US and SV concept.

codingdave 2 days ago 0 replies      

There are always questions of why the startup failed, what your role was, and what could have made it succeed. Your answers could save you or sink you. But most people have at least some sense of the ups and downs of startups, so it will not automatically remove you from consideration for almost anything.

They will want to see that you have learned something. They also will want to know your personal reaction to the experience, and whether that will make you a more or less stable hire. Maybe your failure made you hungry for another startup, more fired up to succeed. Maybe it burned you out on startups, and you now want a stable corporate gig for a few years. Maybe something in between.

As long as your answers, your personality, and current desires match their needs, you can get a job. Maybe you are not a match for every job out there, but nobody ever is.

scrdhrt 2 days ago 0 replies      
I had a startup fail a couple of years ago, nothing big but enough to be sort of known to the local market place. After failing to raise enough capital to keep it going, I had to pull the plug, and consequently look for a job my self. This is when I realized that employers who care about the wording "failed" emphasize the same in the work place. I struggled to continue on to final interviews in every case where the employer spent more than a couple of minutes discussing WHY my startup failed, instead of discussing what we did successfully. This became super obvious when I met with people who asked what we did successfully, and really didn't care about that it failed. The hard part is to be lucky enough to meet the people that don't care that my startup failed, and who believes what I did is more important.
Mankhool 2 days ago 0 replies      
No, but I had trouble getting a job after working abroad for 10 years. There was huge unspoken resentment from most employers that I had dared to leave Canada to work elsewhere. In her book, "Eight Months on Gaza Street", Hilary Mantel wrote something like, "It's almost as if by going away that you were offering some criticism of their own lives". That's exactly what it felt like.
codex 2 days ago 0 replies      
Unfortunately many employers may assume that you're more experienced with failure than success. Failure can be a teacher, but success can as well.
frankdenbow 2 days ago 0 replies      
I've been helping folks who are new to the startup world get jobs at startups in nyc. The short answer is no: having failed (especially in the industry you are looking for a job in) can be immensely helpful. Companies I have spoken to like having someone with some skin in the game, and that have learned some lessons that can be carried over to their business.
johngrefe 2 days ago 0 replies      
I've only ever had more job offers, recruiters, even offered a gig at an accelerator as an exec advisor. This was USA focused.

In the UK attitudes are horrible though, there is a stigma where if you fail your first entrepreneurial enterprise, you are somehow blackmarked for life. I think that just because of this there are lots of start ups in the UK, where the founders have not killed them because they are not working. There is a point where you know something is not going to work, and you should kill it, this stigma breeds a lot of waste.

jsun 1 day ago 0 replies      
no, failing at a startup won't prevent you from getting hired however making us feel like you're just going to collect a paycheck while waiting for your next thing to take off probably will.

tread carefully on how much you want to rep your startup experience.

f7t7ft7 2 days ago 0 replies      
I have been in interview debriefs where people were concerned about a candidate not advancing enough in a previous position, but I can't imagine one failed startup being detrimental, at least where I currently work if you get interviewed by those same exact people. :) The important thing is what you can talk about from the startup.
brianbarker 1 day ago 0 replies      
We interviewed a guy who had a startup and he definitely got rejected for it. I didn't agree at all and thought he'd be good, but other guys thought he "wouldn't be able to take directions since he's not in charge now." Bullshit. Oh well. People are dumb.
bsbechtel 2 days ago 0 replies      
Yes, for certain industries and positions...most especially outside of entrepreneurial hotbeds.
mnw21cam 2 days ago 2 replies      
Yes, I know it's only a lmgtfy away, but what's GPA? Some American thing?
ChrisNorstrom 2 days ago 0 replies      
Every time I post my failures on HN I get like 3-5 freelance job offers. Posting my successes doesn't get me anything.

===== Psychological Theory on Why =====

- Employers may feel threatened by you if you are successful.

- Employers may feel that you will leave them.

- Employers want a subordinate they can control.

- Employers want YOU to empower THEIR company, not them empowering you and you leaving with the knowledge and experience they helped give you.

kilocore 2 days ago 0 replies      
Depends on geography and industry. e.g. in Europe/UK it would make it hard to get recruiters to take interest; but if you're for example a world class ios/game developer it doesnt really matter.
Ask HN: Hacker News Person Of the Year
62 points by baby  1 day ago   58 comments top 42
Udo 1 day ago 1 reply      
Elon Musk - SpaceX and Tesla have been on HN pretty consistently this year, and it's an inspiring option, too.

Snowden is not a bad choice, especially since he'll probably be snubbed by the Times in favor of the politically safe Miley Cyrus, but he's not really in tech. Satoshi Nakamoto should have been the HN POY last year (or next year once BTC goes really mainstream).

david927 1 day ago 1 reply      
Nice idea, but let's clarify, it should be someone in technology, as opposed to politics or entertainment.

I nominate Bret Victor.

onion2k 1 day ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden.
mpclark 1 day ago 1 reply      
I don't feel comfortable voting unless you make me log in with Facebook or Twitter...
baby 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'd personally go for Satoshi or/and Edward Snowden.
davidw 1 day ago 0 replies      
Is this a HN person, or any person selected by HN? I think the former would be more interesting.
RyanMcGreal 1 day ago 0 replies      
The suggestions made here in an HN Poll:


jaboutboul 1 day ago 0 replies      
It's a toss up between Snowden and Elon Musk. While I do believe Elon Musk will change the world we live in tomorrow, Snowden has dramatically changed our perception of the world we live in today.
samweinberg 1 day ago 1 reply      
Satoshi couldn't be person of the year, he hasn't been heard from since '10! /s
mkramlich 1 day ago 0 replies      
1. Elon Musk

2. Satoshi Nakamoto

3. Edward Snowden

devonbarrett 1 day ago 0 replies      
Aaron Swartz
seivan 1 day ago 0 replies      
Michael O Church.
cjfont 1 day ago 1 reply      
Someone with sufficient karma should take the results here and re-post this as a poll.
rekenerd 1 day ago 1 reply      
I nominate Satoshi Nakamoto.
TeMPOraL 1 day ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden / Bret Victor / Elon Musk.
extaxa 1 day ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden definitely, not for only personal acts but as an icon. This year has definitely been a year of surveillance scandals and we can all thank this man for taking the brave step and showing light on what governments really do. Small step for a man, giant leap for mankind, no less.
sidcool 1 day ago 0 replies      
Elon Musk, in my opinion. He is my modern day hero.
GuerraEarth 1 day ago 0 replies      
POY: the nucleus group of Aaron Swartz, Edward Snowden, and someone we should not forget to thank, Assange. Where, pray tell, would we be without them?
wielebny 1 day ago 0 replies      
Richard Stallman
miriadis 1 day ago 0 replies      
Aaron Swartz
kushti 1 day ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden, undoubtly
brudgers 1 day ago 0 replies      
Reg Braithwaite
priyakanth024 1 day ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden.

Lot's of Elon Musk's though. Let's vote him as Person of the Century.

1angryhacker 1 day ago 1 reply      
Satoshi Nakamoto

let's drive BTC up to $10,000 before the crash!

tobltobs 1 day ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden
bernatfp 1 day ago 1 reply      
wozniacki 1 day ago 0 replies      
Elon Musk, by far.
slimbling 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden
joeconway 1 day ago 0 replies      
Bill Gates
Bocker 1 day ago 0 replies      
Elon Musk.
embro 23 hours ago 0 replies      
Elon Musk for sure.
daragao 1 day ago 0 replies      
Aaron SwartzEdward Snowden
pmcpinto 1 day ago 0 replies      
Elon Musk
mnml_ 1 day ago 0 replies      
Edward Snowden
wtpiu 1 day ago 0 replies      
Bitcoin. easy.
leoplct 1 day ago 0 replies      
Jack Dorsey
Pengu 23 hours ago 0 replies      
Snowden isn't real, a 'Facebook Ghost Profile' is.
wallzz 1 day ago 0 replies      
subsrim 1 day ago 1 reply      
Narendra Modi.
subsrim 1 day ago 0 replies      
Narendra Modi
Ask HN: Would you buy or sell bitcoin at current rate? Why?
3 points by anujkk  16 hours ago   2 comments top 2
kr4 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I think you should cash out at least your initial investment so that even if it crashes to zero (unlikely), you don't feel screwed up. Tradditional Investment wizdom doesn't suggest you to buy at this stage but BTC doesn't seem to belong to tradditional economics...
justinireland 16 hours ago 0 replies      
It depends on your price target. I personally think BTC is going to the tens of thousands in the next few years so I see no reason to sell now and even buying at $1k is still relatively cheap.
Ask HN: How do you think about your startup idea?
2 points by wilbertliu  17 hours ago   discuss
Ask HN: Interview about building website without a portfolio
2 points by crindy  21 hours ago   1 comment top
404error 21 hours ago 0 replies      
It's been tough for me as well. I work for a newspaper and most of my time is spent here duck taping things together. I don't have much free time to work on side project and what little free time I do have I like to spend away from a computer.

I recently had an interview and was asked to show some of my previous work. Like you all I had were small project sites and any real work for me is sitting behind a firewall on server that is only accessed at work.

I had a phone interview then a face to face. Everything went well, but with out any real work to show I feel I was at a disadvantage. Good luck. Let me know what how it goes. Maybe your interview strategy can shed some light.

These are good female tech role models - apparently
6 points by pbowyer  2 days ago   1 comment top
eecsninja 1 day ago 0 replies      
To be fair, I'd expect a lot of coverage in the news for male founders / CEOs -- Jobs, Gates, Zuckerberg, Ellison, etc... and less coverage of actual male developers.
Ask HN: What do Microsoft employees think about the new Scroogled campaign?
12 points by riyadparvez  3 days ago   2 comments top 2
CurtHagenlocher 3 days ago 0 replies      
I, for one, generally like to pretend that none of Microsoft's ad campaigns actually exists.

My suspicion is that Microsoft's current spate of negative advertising can be traced directly back to the Mac vs PC ads of a few years ago. These happened to coincide with a remarkable rampup in the popularity of Apple's PCs, and that cannot have gone unnoticed at the C-levels. Whether or not the ads were actually a driving factor in the change is, of course, hard to say -- but they certainly didn't seem to discourage anyone from buying Apple.

What the decision-makers seem to have missed, though, was that 1) the ads themselves were gentle and somewhat charming (or at least John Hodgman helped make them that way) and 2) although these things were largely exaggerated for comic effect, they often targeted real pain points that consumers actually had with Windows.

Of course, in implicitly painting Microsoft as buffoonish and perhaps even incompetent, I think these ads generated more rage in the boardroom than they would have if they'd been merely full-on attack ads in the style of "Scroogled".

jamesjguthrie 3 days ago 0 replies      
Seems like they're spending a lot of money on the campaign. We're getting local radio station adverts here in Glasgow, Scotland. Are they placing them on radio stations everywhere?
Ask HN: Give me some list of movies about Entrepreneurship and Technology...
5 points by gembird  2 days ago   10 comments top 9
hansy 1 day ago 0 replies      
Check out these threads:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=450702, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4060887

Also my personal list of favorites that entrepreneurs should watch (although not necessarily about technology):

Glengarry Glen Ross - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104348/

Moneyball - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1210166/

The Pursuit of Happyness - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0454921/

Jerry Maguire - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116695/

Catch Me If You Can - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264464/

randallma 1 day ago 0 replies      
Not a movie, but Masters of Doom is a great book about the rise of ID Software (http://www.amazon.com/Masters-Doom-Created-Transformed-Cultu...)
kbelbina 2 days ago 0 replies      
Code Rush. Documentary about Netscape:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Rush
solid8tion 2 days ago 0 replies      
E-dreams. about kozmo.com: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262021/
feulix 2 days ago 0 replies      
leoplct 2 days ago 1 reply      
- The social network

- The startup kids

- Jobs

davidsmith8900 2 days ago 0 replies      
- How America Was Built - (Rockefeller & Mellon)
z3bra 2 days ago 0 replies      
Also there is a series called BETA
davidsmith8900 2 days ago 0 replies      
- The CIA Movie With Colin Farrell.
Decentralizing with Mesh Networks
7 points by dasmithii  3 days ago   3 comments top 2
jackweirdy 3 days ago 1 reply      
You should check out this Greek island which has implemented one itself: http://www.zdnet.com/greek-island-gets-wireless-mesh-network...
andy_campanella 1 day ago 0 replies      
Check out this series of posts as well - they had some interesting experience with municipal WiFi ISPs:http://www.muniwireless.com/2010/04/06/wireless-isp-experien...
Chef, Puppet, Salt, Ansible. What do you use for server setup and deployment?
20 points by alfor  5 days ago   16 comments top 11
Lazare 5 days ago 1 reply      

We know Python, we don't know Ruby, and we have waaaay less than a dozen servers all up, including staging and dev environments. We don't need anything too complex or over-engineered, but we do need something that'll work, is quick to get started with, and is at least better than the mess of fabric scripts we had before. And ideally it should integrate well with what we already have, and scale as far as we need it to.

Ansible works for this very well. Install it on the machine you want to control everything (my laptop, right now), add all your servers to a manifest, hack together some simple playbooks using a very clear YAML-based DSL, and...you're done. It works via SSL, so no crazy issues with certificates, no complicated server infrastructure, nothing to install on the clients. The barriers to entry are vastly lower than they are for Chef or Puppet; even Chef Solo is kind of overkill. And being in Python is nice; I can hack on a Ansible module if I need to. People love the fact that Chef cookbooks are "just Ruby!" but if you don't know Ruby that's not a good thing; it's much easier to learn Ansible's DSL than Ruby.

At the moment we're using DO, so the process right now is to log in to DOs control panel, create a new droplet, add the IP address to the Ansible inventory, and then hit go, and Ansible will configure everything magically.

Deployment we're still ironing the kinks out of. We're using Dokku for one part of our stack, which is working...okay. Another part is using an Ansible playbook to grab a custom docker image and deploy it, which is a bit nicer. I'm still trying to decide how useful a role Docker is playing; I know it's the new hotness but it's not 100% clear to me that cloning a git repo locally, building docker image, pushing it to a docker repo, pulling it back out of a docker repo on a remote server, and firing it up is that much better than just, you know, cloning a git repo and building the app.

Anyhow, out of Chef, Puppet, Salt, Ansible, etc. we're using Ansible 'cause it solves our problems quickly and easily. If you've ever growled to yourself "christ, I could write a shell script to solve this so easily, why is this HARD?!", well, with Ansible it's not hard, but it still solves stuff you could never do with shell scripts or Fabric.

beagle3 5 days ago 0 replies      
(not the kind of answer OP is looking for, but...)

I was trying to figure out which of these is best for me, by asking users and looking online. Consensus seems to be that:

Ansible is the easiest to grok/deploy unless you're a Ruby person. All the users are happy with what it provides, only complaints I could find were about its speed in large-y deplyoments (>500) - and that seemed to be addressed by Fireball mode in the past, and the new daemon mode in newer versions - though I haven't actually found testaments for that.

Salt seems to click for some people, is too complicated for others. Had a couple of security issues (e.g. http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2013/07/01/1 since addressed - but it is a smell when people who shouldn't roll their own crypto)

Chef and Puppet seem to work great, and you can find lots of support for them, but are heavier and seem to require more setup (e.g. chef "minions" which are agents on the managed machines, even though there's some kind of no-setup-needed mode)

Windows seems to be an outcast as far as management servers go. Some people get it to work, non recommend it. But I don't care about provisioning Windows, so I didn't delve into what's actually possible.

relevant: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=D21968B0-EE1C-1249-85D672B3...

guiambros 5 days ago 0 replies      
I've been dabbling with three of the four for the past year. My needs are modest: 4-8 servers, plus a few dev environments. Something to simplify management, and have a replicable environment in the case of a server crash, migration, upgrades, etc.

I had similar experiences with Puppet and Chef. First and foremost, a steep learning curve. You spend several days learning a new DSL, concepts, available recipes, and understanding all the magic that happens behind the scenes.

The server side is also a pain. Opscode's Chef Server (free till 5 nodes) is painfully slow, and Puppet Server is rather heavy (it requires a medium EC2 instance). I tried also running only with chef-solo, but it defeats the purpose of using Chef.

Authentication can be also confusing, particularly for Puppet, with host-specific certificates, cache, etc.

I just started using Ansible last month, and it has been a pleasant surprise so far. Very easy to learn, even easier to maintain, no DSL (it's just YAML files), and extensible via Python or Bash modules. The key management is also a piece of cake: SSH keys, instead of the pain of custom certificates like Puppet.

Ansible probably isn't the best option for someone with hundreds or thousands of nodes (that's the primary market for Puppet/Chef), but seems perfect for someone that has outgrown ssh and shell scripts.

Haven't played with Salt much, but seems closer to Ansible than to Chef/Pupper.

jlawer 5 days ago 1 reply      
Custom deployment Script for VMware & Kickstart for system imaging with post deployment configuration being Salt.

Salt was picked because it was both simple to get up and running and fairly powerful. Chef & Puppet were both evaluated first but salt clicked better with our environment. Additionally being packaged in EPEL, and running on the older system versions of python made it a lot easier to manage. Having a strong API opens up more opportunities.

The custom scripts are there to automate the system provisioning in VMWare.

Our infrastructure is run on our own hardware and use VMWare vSphere for virtualisation. As our workloads use larger instances (24gb of ram) and higher then average IOPS, we found it cheaper to run our own hardware (including labour costs). This is further helped by the fact our usage is fairly consistent and as such we are able to run much of our infrastructure at capacity (with a reasonable safety margin).

I am currently working building an interface that will combine the deployment, management, monitoring (performance and fault), networking and configuration across all the components of our infrastructure to make it more "Cloud Like" as the younger developers seem unable to perform even basic administration tasks that were expected of the older developers.

namecast 5 days ago 0 replies      
Puppet at work, mostly; I've spent the past five years working with both puppet and chef for various clients and jobs. Working on trying out ansible for my own private host, setting up.

Puppet isn't that heavy - I use the agent to bootstrap my laptops, e.g. on ubuntu, apt-get install puppet, create a file with this contents named laptop.pp and then run 'puppet apply laptop.pp':

$tools = [ 'aptitude', 'at', 'elinks', 'mtp-tools', 'mtpfs', 'libxml-devel', 'puppet-lint', 'msmtp','rxvt-unicode', 'python-dev', 'python-pip', 'xclip', 'xsel', 'vagrant', 'virtualbox', 'unrar', 'p7zip-full', 'netcat', 'socat', 'zsh', 'screen', 'strace', 'sudo', 'tmux', 'scapy', 'ruby1.9.1-dev','rubygems', 'git', 'git-annex']package { $tools: ensure => 'installed' }

$window_manager = [ 'xmonad', 'ttf-inconsolata', 'dmenu','dzen2','libghc-xmonad-contrib-dev','libghc-xmonad-dev', 'xmobar']

package { $window_manager: ensure => 'installed' }

$audio_video = [ 'vlc', 'moc']package { $audio_video: ensure => 'installed' }

$games = [ 'mame', 'mame-tools', 'gnome-video-arcade', 'sdlmame', 'sdlmame-tools', 'mednafen']package { $games: ensure => 'installed' }

$productivity = [ 'mutt-patched', 'rtorrent', 'irssi', 'bitlbee']package { $productivity: ensure => 'installed' }

$python_pip = [ 'zipline', 'blueprint', 'ansible', 'salt', 'grc']package { $python_pip: ensure => 'installed', provider=> pip}

$gem = [ 'jekyll', 'knife-ec2', 'chef', 'rake']package { $gem: ensure => 'installed', provider=> gem}

file { '/home/username/.xmonad/':ensure=>'directory'}

file{ '/home/username/.xmonad/xmonad.hs':ensure=> 'present',source=> '/home/username/bootstrap/templates/xmonad.hs',owner=> 'username'}

file { '/home/username/.xmobarrc':ensure=> 'present',source=> '/home/username/bootstrap/templates/xmobar-rc',owner=> 'username'}

exec { '/usr/bin/xmonad --recompile':subscribe=> File['/home/username/.xmonad/xmonad.hs'],refreshonly=> true}

makerops 5 days ago 0 replies      
Tech-wise, they all have pros/cons, but really, this isn't a tech question imo. It is business/organization specific;

how large is your company (human-wise/not servers)?what technology is your org most familiar with?Do you have a budget?Is enterprise support important to your company?are you dealing with any rules/regs (HIPPA, etc)

stevekemp 5 days ago 0 replies      
At work we use cfengine/puppet to maintain systems, but we've started experimenting with Ansible to perform simple setup of hosts.

Personally I use Slaughter, which is serverless and applies policies located on github. (Disclaimer I wrote it). I consider it a server-less cfengine-lite, but with the added freedom of allowing arbitrary perl


When it comes to any automation you need to set your limits, and decide what you're doing:

* Just setting up an initial stack of services, etc.* Maintaining the system going forward. Reverting local changes, etc.

atsaloli 5 days ago 0 replies      
CFEngine due to its maturity (in its 3rd generation and is based on science (promise theory)), portability (it's written in C so it can work on any UNIX-like system, even old or small) and power and flexibility.

Disclaimer: I offer CFEngine training, http://www.verticalsysadmin.com

chrislaco 5 days ago 0 replies      
Both Ansible and Chef combined. Ansible for provisioning/orchestration of Chef cookbooks/recipes.
gpurkins 5 days ago 0 replies      
"oh no I have so many amazing tools to choose from?", I use puppet at the moment.

Any of them will make your deploy/config life great.

sesteel 5 days ago 1 reply      
puppet current job, chef at last
Ask HN: How much do you spend on WordPress plugins?
3 points by gembird  2 days ago   7 comments top 7
JayNeely 2 days ago 0 replies      
I do a lot of Wordpress development for clients. I've spent more on themes (between $30 - $80 per theme, usually closer to $40) than I have on plugins, and the themes often include functionality I'm looking for that I might otherwise use free plugins to create in a theme I'd build myself.

So far the main plugin I've spent money on is Advanced Custom Fields, purchasing the repeater field and options page add-ons. Cost around $40 USD I believe. Gives me a license to use those add-ons on as many client sites as I want.

I've also had clients purchase WooCommerce extensions like the PayPal Pro gateway ($79) and Stripe extension ($79).

Also, as I continue to build out http://BostonStartupsGuide.com, I expect I'll purchase SearchWP ($25) and Events Calendar Pro ($65).

1337biz 2 days ago 0 replies      
So far I haven't seen the need to spend anything on WordPress plugins.
krapp 2 days ago 0 replies      
None. If I don't find one I like that I can use for free I write my own.




companyhen 2 days ago 0 replies      
Typically nothing, one client wanted Gravity Forms so I purchased that for his site recently. Maybe a few WooCommerce plugin extensions, but that's about it.
joshuaiz 1 day ago 0 replies      
Have a developer's license for Gravity Forms and BackupBuddy and install those on pretty much every site.

If it's some small bit of functionality I will try to write it myself or do some creative copy/pasting. Most plugins are bloated with a lot of extra unnecessary stuff.

darthdeus 2 days ago 0 replies      
I haven't spend anything as well.
OafTobark 2 days ago 0 replies      
$0.00 so far. Haven't found a need to.
Ask HN: When to give up?
14 points by ds_  5 days ago   49 comments top 16
jbobes 6 hours ago 0 replies      
On the same boat with you there with http://cloud306.com
Sakes 5 days ago 1 reply      
My elevator pitch for crawlspa.

"Worry about optimizing your site for search engines later. Use crawlspa to automate search engine indexing and focus on what matters, creating beautiful sites that convert visitors into customers."

CrawlspaTag Line: We index & you convert.

Edit: One more thing, have you considered manually approaching custom web shops? If they are pumping out sites, they probably wouldn't mind passing along the $5 a month to customers in order for them to not worry about indexing the trendy single page sites.

srgseg 5 days ago 2 replies      
Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

Sir Winston Churchill, Speech, 1941, Harrow School

geekfactor 4 days ago 0 replies      
People often refer to Seth Godin's The Dip as a book that helps address this question. Personally, I didn't find it all that insightful, but I'm mentioning it here anyway to solicit others' opinions.
tixocloud 5 days ago 1 reply      
Here's my 2 cents and some thought questions that will hopefully help you find your way:You've received positive feedback from several people but are they your target market? Will they be the ones paying? It's also important to think about what value you're bringing to the table.

If you're targeting single-page apps, you'll have to seek those customers out. If you're targeting websites who want to get indexed on Google, SEO-related, etc, then your customer base will be bigger. Seek them out.

As a previous poster had already mentioned, if I'm competent enough to build a single-page app, I could easily manage my own redirects. Unless I have more than 100 single-page apps, then I might see value in your service.

Communicate what your value is to me and how you're saving/giving me money/time/something by taking money away from myself.

ereckers 5 days ago 1 reply      
I'm sort of what you would call a small developer and WordPress jobs are the majority of my business. I'm speaking only for myself here but when I see stuff like this I pass:

RewriteEngine onRewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^_escaped_fragment_=(.*)$RewriteRule (.*) http://crawlspa.com/s/%1 [P]
I understand what you're doing, but there's something about writing redirects to relatively new 3rd party sites that make me uncomfortable.

gildas 5 days ago 1 reply      
Does crawlspa really crawl sites? Or is it just yet another "prerender-like" SaaS? Why should someone use your service instead of existing ones? What is your added-value compared for example to seo4ajax.com?
AznHisoka 3 days ago 0 replies      
Question: When you add [P] to the Rewrite rule, does the URL in the browser show crawlspa, or the original domain?
_nate_ 5 days ago 1 reply      
I'm not sure why I would pay for this? Couldn't I implement something like this on my own? I'm assuming if Im competent enough to build a quality single-page app, I could manage the redirects on my own.

Either way, the decision to give up has a natural way of finding itself at the point where opportunity costs are greater than the current work being done. Meaning, its probably a path you have to find on your own.

ds_ 5 days ago 0 replies      
I'm using crawlspa for crawlspa, you can see how google has indexed the homepage:




kayhi 5 days ago 1 reply      
The $3.99 price seems off due to the 99 cent add on, just make it a round number.

I would also add information about what problem this solves and how it saves time.

marcomassaro 5 days ago 1 reply      
I'd say you definitely need a stronger value proposition. I have no idea why I would need this for my app.

Communicate to visitors how it will help their website (e.g. increased ranking, indexing, etc.)

resu 5 days ago 1 reply      
Will my site not be penalized if the crawler thinks everything on it points to crawlspa.com?
palidanx 5 days ago 1 reply      
What is a single page app? A website with one page?
davidsmith8900 5 days ago 1 reply      
- I dont think you should give up.
arielpts 5 days ago 1 reply      
Please, send us the URL.
Ask HN: Where do you spend Bitcoins?
51 points by emilepetrone  4 days ago   59 comments top 39
cheeze 4 days ago 1 reply      
I buy reddit gold[1], Amazon giftcards[2] (with 3% cashback!), grilled cheese sandwiches[3], belgian waffles [4], donate to causes[5], and will be booking a flight[6] using them soon. I also use BTC/LTC for personal payments between friends and co-workers pretty often.

[1] https://ssl.reddit.com/gold

[2] http://www.gyft.com/shop-for-gift-cards/

[3] http://wizardsofcheese.com/wizardscreed.html

[4] https://www.facebook.com/thewaflstop

[5] http://seansoutpost.com/

[6] http://www.cheapair.com/

ISL 4 days ago 1 reply      
I'd been planning to head over to a local food truck this week until the market became too volatile; nobody knows how to price things. If BTC becomes a functional currency, it'll be when the price is stable to better than 10% over week-to-month timescales. That has happened in the past.

In general, I'd much rather give value to a vendor than play the credit-card --> reward points --> $ game to reduce the effective cost of the charges credit-card companies levy on vendors.

Every time I write and mail a check or arrange for a bank balance transfer, I think "Man, if only the person at the other end used bitcoin. This would be faster, easier, and cheaper." It's so much easier for person-to-person transfers than carrying cash, making change, etc. You can also get a sense for how much practical use bitcoin is getting by searching Craigslist for "Bitcoin".

At the moment, there aren't that many places to spend them. The economic exchange systems we have today are quite good. It remains to be seen if any other system is ultimately superior.

epaga 4 days ago 1 reply      
Actually just ordered out this evening, bought my family of 6 dinner (sushi, etc.) for 0.046 BTC at http://lieferservice.de which supports hundreds of restaurants throughout Germany.

We keep an "order out" Bitcoin budget and refill it with new Bitcoins from time to time. REALLY cheap food due to the BTC prices as of late.

M4v3R 4 days ago 0 replies      
It definitely won't hurt you, implementing Bitcoin payments isn't very hard and you usually don't pay anything to get started. You could also get free publicity if you have a good item listing and accept Bitcoin, because still not so many marketplaces do that.
user24 4 days ago 1 reply      
I have spent a little at http://takeaway.com in the UK, but I'm primarily seeing it as an investment.

I know that we also need to start spending it for it to have any real value, so my wife and I agree that as of January we're going to start putting our takeaway funds into bitcoin and gradually spending that, while also keeping some aside as an investment.

spaceman77 2 hours ago 0 replies      
2 Raspberry Pi kits at Bitcoinin.

VPN services at PIA.

Donation to LibreOffice.

waterlesscloud 4 days ago 1 reply      
It's not going to have a dramatic impact on your sales. Not a lot of people are going to pay you with bitcoin today, and of those who would, most of them would have used another payment method if you didn't accept bitcoin.

It's fairly irrelevant to you as a vendor whether most transactions are currency conversion, though. Who cares? What matters to you is your bottom line, not what the economy as a whole looks like.

What actually matters is how much it costs you to implement vs how much extra revenue it brings you. Given that it wouldn't cost much at all, why not add it?

rms 4 days ago 0 replies      
>My suspicion, which I think many BTC skeptics hold, is that most BTC transactions are more for currency conversions than purchasing goods.

We get about one BTC order a week at my store and then hold our bitcoins rather than immediately cashing out for USD. The largest orders were from someone who told us overtly that they were basically making orders from us as a way of cashing out their bitcoins.

bdcs 3 days ago 0 replies      
About once a week I'll settle up with friends using BTC out of convenience and, to be honest, novelty. For example, at a restaurant instead of splitting a bill across 6 cards, one person will pay and the other 5 will send btc for their amount (cash's divisibility is a problem).

About once a month I'll use Gyft to buy something on Amazon to get the 3% back.

I also buy a VPN, PrivateInternetAccess, using bitcoins.

shazow 3 days ago 0 replies      
Just found this: http://www.bitcoinblackfriday.com/

Basically a mailing list of merchants who accept Bitcoin and are doing special Black Friday sales end of this month. Probably of interest to people in this thread.

analog31 4 days ago 1 reply      
As an add-on question, how do stores or online retailers set prices in BTC's? It would seem that you'd need to have indexed prices (like wages in some high inflation countries) to know what you're actually charging for something.
tjaerv 4 days ago 0 replies      
I buy all my domain names at Namecheap.com with bitcoin.
terhechte 4 days ago 1 reply      
I bought VPN access with bitcoin around a year ago. I would have used it more often in the past, but most of the time when I wanted to buy / pay something online they had no support for Bitcoin, but support for Paypal, so I still use Paypal more. I guess if there's more uptake, I may chose Bitcoin in those situations more often.
modeless 4 days ago 0 replies      
You won't get many bitcoin sales right now, especially with the market being so volatile over the past few weeks, but the integration should be pretty easy and you might get some good publicity out of it. Posts about stores accepting bitcoin generally attract quite a few upvotes on the bitcoin subreddit.

Also, if you keep the money in bitcoins, you could gain if the price keeps rising, making your bitcoin sales worth more. Of course, that's a risky bet, but the potential upside is still 10x-100x over the next few years.

base698 4 days ago 0 replies      
This is handy: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/20...

Several businesses around me I wasn't aware of take it.

001sky 4 days ago 1 reply      
Its hard to justify its use as a transactional currency when its capital appreciation is so high. Perhaps the adjacent question is "why spend it on anything"? At the moment...this may impact the evolution of transactional infrastucture...in terms of ROI (when timing is considered).
pitzips 4 days ago 1 reply      
I implemented BTC checkout with giftcardzen.com (We sell discounted gift cards to all major retailers) To be honest, working with coinbase was lackluster. One ridiculous thing that coinbase did, was delete the post back url if they didn't receive a 200 response. So, if the site happened to be down for 1 minute when it posted...the subsequent posts would just go into a void.

Other than that, make sure you have some BTC pre-purchased in the event you need to do an equivalent of a refund. The BTC that comes in through checkout, can not be used if the customer needs that BTC back.

kmfrk 4 days ago 0 replies      
A lot of people in bitcoin discussions online tend to bring up http://www.gyft.com, but maybe things spend their BTC on other things in private. :)
btcus 4 days ago 0 replies      
I apologize for blatant advertising, but my colleague and I run https://www.bitcoinshop.us, an attempt to host a vast amount of inventory available for purchase with BTC. If anyone has any comments or suggestions on how to improve our service, we would appreciate it very, very much!

I've lurked on HN for quite some time, but could not pass up this opportunity to obtain feedback from such an excellent community.

reedlaw 4 days ago 0 replies      
Gyft.com is a great place to buy gift certificates with bitcoin. Massdrop.com has some great deals on electronics, including Yubikeys, 3D printers, and audio equipment.
letney 4 days ago 0 replies      
Gyft.com is my go to place for instant conversion of BTC to a medium (a gift card) I can spend in my local Target or CVS Pharmacy. Their reward system rebates 3% of BTC purchases.
sard420 4 days ago 0 replies      
Going to spend mine on consumer electronics. It's hard though not even a few months ago I threw in 50$ and bought at $124. Spent a little, but now my BTC is worth over $250. I know it could be worth $15 tomorrow but still three LCD's for $50 sounds right up my ally.
ElongatedTowel 4 days ago 0 replies      
I bought a domain with it. Although I'm not quite fond of the potential traceability. I earned the money by playing poker. In a way someone could link my personal information I had to give up to make the purchase to my poker habits and the guy who sold me the initial bitcoin in the first place who might or might not be a marijuana dealer.
gojomo 4 days ago 0 replies      
The future.
peteyPete 3 days ago 0 replies      
+1 People should support vendors which accept bitcoin by making it public that they paid with bitcoin @ X store. I made paidwithbitcoin.com a while back. I still think its a good idea. People should tweet #paidwithbitcoin and mention the website where they bought. Would make it super easy to build listings of sites which accept them from all the tweets.

To answer the original question, I've recently used bitcoin to pay for my VPN subscription @ hidemyass.com

Artemis2 4 days ago 0 replies      
Currently, I spend them only on the Humble Bundle (okay, I don't have much).

I advise you to look at Coinbase API if you want to implement checkout using BTCs.

pearjuice 3 days ago 1 reply      
>buying anything with Bitcoin


Why would anyone do this? Tomorrow you could buy two of the thing you bought today. At this moment in time Bitcoin is not a viable currency and you would be foolish to spend it like that.

aivaomo 4 days ago 0 replies      
So far I've bought domain renewals at Namecheap and a few rounds at the pub. Both faster and easier than paying by card. I intend to buy my next flights at btctrip.com.

I'm aware BTC's appreciating value so I periodically top up to offset spending.

stungeye 4 days ago 0 replies      
FYI: CaVirtex (a Canadian BTC exchange) is holding a $500 shopping cart integration contest to attract developers to their API.


selkisr 3 days ago 0 replies      
coinmap.org has a pretty slick interface for people to search for brick and mortar businesses accepting bitcoin. Although it is incomplete. It would be nice to have BitPay and Coinbase share their merchant data with coinmap so the industry has a better, complete search tool for consumers. Only way to promote consumer appetite to spend vs. hoard bitcoin is with better awareness of merchant acceptance.
y1611 4 days ago 0 replies      
I used to spend them at Silk Road, when I was regularly using Ritalin to perk my mind up a bit after a close bereavement that decimated my capacity for mental work.

Also bought a domain name at Namecheap, which I was going to use for a Bitcoin mixing service which worked by moving such transactions through SR's mixer.

But then when SR was shut down I was left with a few BTC that I had no reason to use. Just cashed out at ~$800/BTC, which paid for all my drug purchases and the failed mixing website experiment - with a very small profit.

I think I'm done with Bitcoin now. It has no use to me as a currency as everything I'd want to purchase now I can use real money for.

rvcamo 4 days ago 0 replies      
nikoftime 4 days ago 0 replies      
https://bitdazzle.com has products from hundreds (thousands?) of merchants, and you can buy any of them with Bitcoin.
cheesylard 4 days ago 0 replies      
I used it to donate to What.CD and buy a Namecheap domain.
achalkley 4 days ago 0 replies      
Reddit gold.

About to use some on Adafruit products.

alasdair_ 4 days ago 0 replies      
I just bought a bunch of (physical) magic: the gathering cards from abugames.com
carbonmachine 4 days ago 1 reply      
Related question: How do you all earn bitcoins aside from mining?
ted0 4 days ago 0 replies      
Namecheap - domains, ssls, hosting
No, It Really Is That Easy To Manipulate The New York Times
5 points by socialmediaisbs  3 days ago   1 comment top
pearjuice 3 days ago 0 replies      
We are mere puppets of the system put in place by those with the biggest pay checks.
Ask HN: Scanning TV listings to show if there is something good to watch on TV?
3 points by leoplct  2 days ago   8 comments top 3
IanDrake 2 days ago 2 replies      
At a time when TV watching is shifting to on-demand, I don't see a big market now or in the future for this. Writing non-essential software for laggards probably isn't a good business model.

Here's what I'd like, perhaps it exists already... One website to track all the streaming media available to me. I could tell it that I subscribe to Hulu Plus, Netflix, and have Amazon Prime. It would show me a merged list of what all my services offer, and most importantly have a UI that lets me REMOVE stuff I don't want to see and queue stuff I do want to see.

The problem is every time I go to Amazon, I'm offered the same tired movie/show lineup. So, to find something new to watch, I have to find it in lists of all the crap I have no interest in, same with Hulu. An aggregate UI would allow me to keep track of everything in one place.

napster3000 2 days ago 0 replies      
Yes, it could be interesting.
gembird 2 days ago 1 reply      
nope, completely waste of time, instead you should encourage people to watch less TV...
Ask HN: Has anyone really lost weight using Kinect?
7 points by sdogruyol  4 days ago   4 comments top 4
throwaway1979 3 days ago 0 replies      
I had some initial hopes. Didn't really get into using Kinect much. I was most excited about the weight loss possibilities of the old Dance Dance Revolution game (back in the old days). I also bought a wiifit back in the day that never got much use.

One idea a friend tried that worked somewhat was playing normal video games while on an exercise bicycle. The two ideas I am currently trying to pursue is walk on a treadmill playing programming lectures and playing squash. The first one is working out really well since my workout room has wifi and the treadmill has a place to hold my iPad.

csmuk 4 days ago 0 replies      
Not me. I gained weight actually but I think that was due to the proximity to the fridge full of snacks which gave a glucose boost. Untraining this took a couple of weeks. Much better to get outside and go for a run or ride.
thenomad 3 days ago 0 replies      
I've found it to be a useful way to get some cardio whilst in the office. The Kinect Adventures game and the UFC Trainer were both pretty good.

Exercise is in general a pretty terrible way to lose weight (diet's the thing) but I'm pretty sure I noticed some fitness gains.

jcklnruns 4 days ago 0 replies      
I followed their Get Lean program religiously for about 3 months, but I was already a daily runner to begin with so there wasn't much weight to lose. Although, I did get ridiculously toned. The cardio circuits in Nike Training could get downright challenging for a "game" and I followed the program on a schedule of 5-6x/week so the change was quickly noticeable.
Ask HN: Lets ship something over the holidays
7 points by Shipper  3 days ago   discuss
Ask HN: how do you store and organize product feedback?
4 points by cl42  3 days ago   8 comments top 3
petervandijck 2 days ago 1 reply      
You need to go beyond just storing input, you have to process things as a team. That's hard to do well.

Try something like this:

1. Store feedback in a ticket system (or some other system). Try to store the detailed feedback/data, not your interpretation of it. In other words, don't write: "We need feature X for client Y", but write: "Client Y told me usecase Q and Z." Get the data. This is a different format than most bugs require. Try to get the story.

2. Plan roadmap sessions. They could last multiple days. Get multi-disciplinary teams in them. During the sessions, first, go over ALL feedback you got, write it down on sticky notes, and put things on the wall. (The wall part is important.) Then, discuss, review, prioritize, organize, and discuss some more.

Out of this, a roadmap will gell that's based on actual customer needs.

(Note: you will gather a mountain of data. That's good. Then use the process to go through it and make decisions based on data.)

(P.S.: look up "grounded theory" and "contextual inquiry" (the analysis part of it) for more ideas.)

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grounded_theory* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contextual_inquiry

logicman 1 day ago 0 replies      
Use the kanban view in Brightpod to store all of this. You can move things around and start conversations. See www.brightpod.com

Good luck!

jkchang 2 days ago 1 reply      
I'd reccomend Trello. I think it's abstract enough to be applied to most of the stuff you're looking for. Out of the box collaboration also makes it better than other tools.
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