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Started a stupid company. Failed.
389 points by themanthatfell  3 hours ago   149 comments top 81
zedshaw 2 hours ago 31 replies      
Hey, other comments are going to give you a few lines telling you to not quit, that you should hang in there, and that it'll be alright. That may be true, but to me it sounds like you're possibly not doing well enough to make any of that possible, and you probably need to find work fast. Here's what I want to do:

1. I have a little list of companies looking for employees that I'll send you. Not much just companies that have contacted me looking for people.2. I am a bad ass writer and have a crazy resume, but more importantly I know how to craft resumes and I'll look at yours and help you fix it up.3. If you're in the San Francisco area I'll meet up with you and listen to what happened and see if there's a way to work out of it, or at least listen.4. If you email me at help@learncodethehardway.org I'll talk with you and see if there's other ways I can help.

I'm serious, hit me up on email and I'll help out if I can. In fact, this goes for anyone else looking for work right now. Email the above and I'll reply with my little list. I don't make commissions on placement or anything like that, just a good thing to do.

avenger123 1 hour ago 0 replies      
You are a husband, and a father. To me, that is never failure, no matter what happens.

Keep it together for your family. Your kids and wife need you right now. You are the pillar of the house and if you stand tall your strength will make the rest of your family emotionally better off.

So you may lose the house. Happens to a lot of people.

Whatever money you have right now or can get, keep it. Stop paying any of your bills, except the necessities.

Who knows how many weeks, months it will be until you are kicked out. Stay in your house until you are forced to leave. When you do have to leave, go get a rental.

Go find your self whatever jobs you can get to get some income coming in. This could be delivering pizza, snow romoval, mowing lawns, etc..

While your doing this, find another software job.

None of this is easy but see this as another start up. This time its literally to start you back up again.

Remember, you are in the States, no matter what happens, your wife and kids will never go hungry. You will provide for them no matter what.

SteliE 1 minute ago 0 replies      
Really sorry to hear the situation you're in. I've shared my story of failure and entrepreneurial depression here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrUw4S76jFQ

A few people have told me that it helped them in tough times.

I have a small child and another on the way so I can only guess how you feel right now. Entrepreneurship is hard. Ping me at steli@close.io if you ever need someone to listen.

themanthatfell 43 minutes ago 3 replies      
My wife cried reading all of your comments. I guess we were looking for some sign that someone somewhere is pulling for us. During the first hour this post was up I hovered over the delete more than once. It doesn't seem right to bring an entire ecosystem of ambitious and wonderful people a story of failure. I guess I learned that hitting delete would be worse. Thank you from the 5.3 of us.
abbottry 0 minutes ago 0 replies      
Can you offer your general location? Might help those of us with connections that might offer employment opportunities you'd be interested in.
mililani 13 minutes ago 0 replies      
Hey man, sorry to hear. I really hope things work out for you. I really do. But, even if things go south for a long time, I sort of envy you. At least you've tried. I haven't done shit. I keep wanting to try. At least I can say at the end of my life, "You know what? I wasn't a success, but I followed my dreams and passions."

But, I still hope your situation will be better several years from now.

tomasien 2 hours ago 0 replies      
If you're really done, don't listen to the people saying "don't give up" - give up, and get back on your feet, whatever that takes. Then, get back on the horse when and if you're ready - I just came off a year of re-building my life after a failed startup, and I'm in such an insanely better position to start my next company now than I was then, but it's only been made possible by the fact that the moment we realized the funding was not going to happen, we gave up.

We had a shitty 4 months, and it could be longer for you it could be shorter, but go through it and come out the other side. My new startup is now about to close funding, but it only happened because we put ourselves in the position to succeed, not by continuing to try to force something that wasn't going to happen.

Knowing when you're dead is the first step.

joshmn 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm mobile now so excuse the brevity.

If you're in the Twin Cities I'd like to extend a hand in you running on two legs. I'd also like to help out giving your little ones a memorable Christmas. No strings attached.

I can get you in front of some bigger names here and get you interviews, depending on what you do. tbese

Email is josh@josh.mn

wf 2 minutes ago 0 replies      
I'm late to the party. But I'm also willing to help you. If you're technical and need a recommendation for a job in the Midwest shoot me an email and maybe in my limited way I can help you. Good luck!
JesseAldridge 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I worked on my own stuff for a long time, trying to live off next to nothing. It didn't work and eventually I ran out of money.

I got a job as a programmer-grunt. I saved up basically everything I made. After two years my bank account hit $50K and I quit and started working on my own stuff again. Life is so much easier now that I have some cash in the bank.

Burning through credit cards seems like a bad path. It's just not necessary. I remember being afraid I would get addicted to easy money in the corporate world. I didn't. The lifestyle was nice, but the lack of freedom made it easy to quit.

Now, I don't have a family to support. That would of course make things harder. I just wanted to strongly recommend the nest-egg approach to anyone grappling with finances.

Michael_Murray 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I'm on my 5th company. The first 3 failed so miserably that there's not even a crater from where they imploded. The fourth had one of the founders usurp control and steal >$1M from the rest of the team and we were left exactly where you are - tapping 401Ks, taking our savings to $0 (and in some cases <<<< $0) and with terrified wives/kids/families/pets.

The 5th hit $10M in revenue in 3 years (completely bootstrapped).

Everyone else has great advice here - I just wanted you to know that there are others who have been where you are.

Much as everyone else expressed... if there's anything I can do, please reach out. mmurray / at / MAD Security.

31reasons 1 hour ago 3 replies      
I don't care if I get down voted. But if a person already has 3 kids and another on the way, why would you spend all your savings on a startup ? even if you run out of savings, why would you max out your credit ? There is something called calculated risk.
kennethtilton 3 minutes ago 0 replies      
I pulled out of my dive before going broke, but not by much. Licked my wounds, got a job, built up my savings for three years and now can try again, this time much wiser (and less risky) for the experience. Survival is success, I was told early on, and...yep.
dennisgorelik 32 minutes ago 0 replies      
You are in an unpleasant situation, but not in a tragedy by no means. To put things into perspective: imagine you have successful company but got pancreatic cancer.

Your to-do list is pretty straightforward:

1) Put your failed startup aside.

2) Find a job ASAP.

3) Try to save your house. Your family would need it. Beg your bank to give you ~extra month until your next paycheck.

4) In about a year you may return to thinking about another startup. Take another year or two to think it over, accumulate some funds, do some part-time research and then jump into your new startup again... or not. Being an employee until you retire is also a good choice.

tigersharktopus 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey bud,

Hitting the bottom after a long fall is the hardest thing you can go through in life. A year ago I was working on my own stupid startup, ran out of money, ran out of credit, wasn't sure there would be another blue sky in my life. Everyone has ups and downs, its the hardest thing to go through.

However, life is not over. It may feel like it, and you may even want it to be. But YOU are still writing YOUR story -- do you want to be the guy who fell and didn't get back up? Fuck no. You want to be the guy who had nothing left and no matter how far down the rabbit hole you go, you find a way back out. You want to be a success. You want it all. You'll have it all someday. Is that day today? No. But because you're still alive you have the chance to make it a reality.

So get back up, find work, pay off bills, and you'll be back in the game before you know it. You're intelligent, smart, driven. Remember -- do not let failure dictate who you are. You're not a failure, failure is simply something that happens to all of us. Learn from failure and let it compliment your decision making in the future. You'll be wiser and you'll learn from this mistake.

Good luck and I'll see you around,Tiger

johnnyg 1 hour ago 0 replies      
If you are in Houston, johnny@cpap.com.

Give us a paypal link and we'll gap you.

pallandt 2 hours ago 0 replies      
You should comment with a list of skills, maybe either a fellow HN-er offers you a job, or knows someone else that might be able to.

It's close to Christmas guys, help this person if you can.

Edit: Also, I noticed you said you're pretty sure you're the opposite of 'us', I can assure you, there's at least another 'failure' to join you, me. I've failed plenty of times in various ways. I used to have a company (not a startup in the common sense though, just a small business) as well some time ago, it didn't fail per se, but I ended up closing it voluntarily because things weren't going in the direction I wanted them to, lots of external factors out of my reach. I felt terrible about it for quite a long time though...now I'm better.

jason_slack 21 minutes ago 1 reply      
I have failed on 5 different ventures. Now going to try a 6th.

I am in the Bay Area. If we share a common grocery store. I'd be happy to send you a gift card for some groceries.

mtsmith85 12 minutes ago 0 replies      
Hey There. 138 comments in, it may seem trite, but if you're in NYC, please shoot me an e-mail (info in my profile). I'm hiring across the board; even if it's just freelance to get you back on your feet, we can work something out. Please e-mail.
vertis 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm going to echo a few other people here. You need to share more details (Location, etc)

Zed Shaw may be the most famous, but there is a bunch of us that can do things to help.

On the off chance you're in Australia (or if you just want a someone to talk to about this), feel free to email me at me@vertis.io

brianbreslin 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Trust me you are not the opposite of most people here. This site thrives on "survivor bias" and making it seem like its all rosy. If you're in Miami, I can help you get a job in startups.
huherto 45 minutes ago 0 replies      
Somehow we tend to think that all it takes is hard work. But there are many aspects of building a successful business. Sometimes we can risk a little too much. Not everybody makes it, not every body has the needed support, not everybody has the tolerance to risk. It is not only about making your dreams happen, you also need to know when to fold.

I wish you the best. The best advice I can give you is to hang in there with your life. Strengthen your relationships, life may suck now, but it will get better, just hang in there, one day at a time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale

mikekij 16 minutes ago 1 reply      
You're getting a lot of this in this post, but I'd be happy to connect you to my network as well. Email me at mkijewski (gmail).
001sky 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Bad bet to make or a good bet with a bad outcome? You may have already commented as much as you feel comfortable with, but would be important for readers to understand perhaps more on this point. In any event, this has some bearing on even how you perceive yourself when you say 'just a statistic'.
vellum 2 hours ago 1 reply      
You should take Zed up on his offer. If you want to be entrepreneurial again, you can be, after youve built up your bankroll. When youre broke with dependents, you dont have the emotional ability to make good decisions.
l0c0b0x 1 hour ago 1 reply      
> Pretty sure I am the opposite of everyone here.

I am one like you with a wife and 3 Kids, that at one point couldn't afford bills/payments (exactly during this holiday season), Dec/January and February were the coldest and weakest I have ever felt as a man. Look at your wife and kids for an extremely good amount of energy and inspiration to go on and fight for them.

During these tough times, nothing comes better than believing in that 'one thing' that will always be true, and that is the love for your family. That's what helped me.

Somewhat cliche now, but it is true: It will get better.

smtddr 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Dude, you got a paypal donation link somewhere? Just put it in your HN profile if ya want.
mbesto 50 minutes ago 0 replies      
I feel you man. I know very few "successful" people who haven't gone through what you're going through right now (to varying degrees). You're not alone - http://www.techdisruptive.com/2013/10/29/common-themes-despa...
hakkasan 1 hour ago 0 replies      
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy"

You do what you need to get and your family through this. That's only only game that's important. The rest of this is just icing. If you are in Europe or the Bay Area feel free to reach out to me @kzhu. I'll help if I can.

skyraider 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Check the Who's Hiring and Seeking Freelancer posts here. The November ones may still be active. Also, just to re-emphasize, you should post a list of skills in this thread.
brianmcdonough 24 minutes ago 0 replies      
I'm based in Santa Monica. If you're in the area and I'll buy you lunch, give you a pep talk and help get you back on your feet in any way I can.
steven777400 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I wish I had something more helpful to say. But I appreciate this post very much. I appreciate first of all the strength and courage it takes to admit a difficult situation. And secondly, I appreciate your willingness to stand up to the confirmation and survivorship bias that, by definition, permeates the new-business world. Thank you. I wish you the very best and sincerely hope you quickly find your feet again.
rjohnk 2 hours ago 0 replies      
While not completely analogous, when I graduated with a 4 year degree, I didn't know what to do in life. Went back to grad school - then exited - still lost. Two hospital stays with a wife and young child. No job. Life sucked. If your religious, cling to that. If not, cling to your wife and kids. THEY are the important thing.

I am religious, so I will be praying for you that everything will turn out. Keep us posted, man.

smokeyj 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I'd rather fail than never have tried. Just remember people still love you for who you are.
yogo 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Hang in there man. Care to share more about what kind of company? How big of a gamble was it?
dennisgorelik 25 minutes ago 0 replies      
Please share some more details - it would help us to give you more targeted advice:

1) What was the mission of your failed startup?

2) What was your personal role in it?

3) What city are you in?

abhididdigi 8 minutes ago 0 replies      
If you are in India, shoot an email at abhididdigi[at]gmail.com.
BalancedThought 57 minutes ago 1 reply      
Hey Man, Husband and Father. I have a large amount of respect for you. My only suggestion is to apologize to your wife and family for not being able to provide now. The love and forgiveness that you receive from them will lift a weight off you that you may not know is there.

Also, remember, you aren't the first Man, Husband or Father to be in this situation and that you are not alone. At this point, make sure not to be prideful and accept the gifts of known and unknown people who want to help you out. None of us made it to where we are without the help of family or the kind words of strangers.

This too shall pass and you will come out even stronger. I am in the New York area and depending on what you do, I might be able to help introduce you to people. You can reach me at rwoodruf at gmail dot com.

michaelochurch 2 hours ago 0 replies      
It's a really fucking shitty game for most of people who play. Ruined lives are pretty rare. (I'm doing well, a couple years later.) But most people get far less out of their time than they'd get in a conventional career.

Even the "low-risk" option of the startup job is way too risky for what little upside remains (at equity slices around 0.05%). Regular companies mentor and, when they have to lay people off, provide severance and positive reference (they'll often work with the recruiters who placed you and say good things). Many of these startups use fake "performance" issues to avoid the image problem of an honest layoff, and to fire people for free. (Banks and hedge funds just admit shit's tough, but these startups have to pretend they're always hiring, even when they're cutting. In other words, they prioritize their image over that of those they're letting go-- when they most need the help.) Getting fired with no severance and no reference is, in many ways, as bad as a startup failure. In some ways, it's worse. Startup failure has more short-term financial pain but, 3 years later, you can talk about it without fearing stigma (especially if you weren't a sole founder).

Paul Graham played the game once and won. It's hard to call it pure luck because, if you read On Lisp, he's obviously a very smart man and was, while active in Lisp, a clear 10x-er. However, there are a lot of people just as smart as he is, who end up ruining their lives in this game.

You're not alone, and I'm sorry to hear about it.

Where are you located? Have you considered Austin, Portland, or Baltimore? Those places have much lower COL and you'll make 80-90% of your Bay Area salary.

emhart 2 hours ago 2 replies      
I don't want to overstep the bounds of a semi-anonymous comment thread, but some of the language you are using, and your choice of user name, has me concerned about your more immediate plans.

In the course of a very public failure and a long depressive phase I wound up in a mental facility for a few days. It's taken a long, miserable time to get back. I did not have the same stressors that you do, and the details of my situation are going to be very different than yours, but if you would just like to have a conversation with someone tonight, please feel free to get in touch. No judgment, no life-affirming advice, just that I would be very glad to hear what you have to say and to talk if you are up for it.

Email is in my profile, I'll keep checking it until pretty late. Good luck.

arbuge 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Find a job for now. (Indeed and Linkedin aren't half bad for that nowadays; there may be better more specific resources in your industry also.) Get back on your own two feet. The rest will take care of itself later. It always does.
lemonberry 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I've had one of the toughest years of my life. One thing I kept doing was writing a gratitude list. Almost daily. It may have saved my life. Good luck.
lnanek2 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Well, tech jobs are pretty easy to come by, especially with no home so you can live wherever the job is. Honestly, I wouldn't want to do a startup if I had kids anyway. I'd rather work a 9-5 with a regular income so I'd have money to take care of them and time after work to be with them and raise them. So this may all be for the best.
splatzone 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Sorry to hear about this, hopefully you'll bounce back.

Did you plan for this eventuality when you started the venture? Can you spare any details about what went wrong?

brianmcdonough 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Keep your head up and don't be afraid to reach out to this community or others for help. All is not lost and you are no different than anyone here, though you may have over-extended yourself. Beating yourself up will not help you or your family.
d0m 40 minutes ago 0 replies      
Nothing wrong in taking a job and slowly working on your things on the side..
err4nt 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Keep your head up dude! I haven't been where you are but I have been in a position where I had no clue how my rent would get paid or how my lights would stay on.

Reading this hits close to home for me. You are are more than the sum of your assets. You are more than a set of skills, and ultimately you still have the ability to go out and conquer. Lean on family, lean on friends, and once you get through this never forget where you've been and help others in the same predicament.

I can't offer much, but if you need a few bucks for a couple bags of groceries email look@mewhenimtalkingtoyou.com and I can send some Paypal your way. No strings attached.

aforty 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Ouch, hang in there. Go get a 'real' job until you get back on your feet.
victortrac 58 minutes ago 0 replies      
If you're in Austin, NYC, or SF and want to work for a decent company, I may be able to help. victor@victortrac.com.
nell 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Dude, What's your skillset?
reinder 53 minutes ago 0 replies      
Hang in there! It's gonna be okay. If you ever need a listening ear, now or in the future, feel free to email me and we'll call. Also, eat well, sleep well, get some fresh air & walks and spend time with the family. Coping with difficult times is easier that way.
vik_psiphilabs 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I guess you stuck on to your dreams a bit too long. Well, we all do, that's the point. Nobody can tell you that's a wrong thing, even if it sometimes seems logical in the real world.

Well, if I step into your shoes it might take me a while to listen to the suggestions of all these people who are genuinely trying to help you. Your brain just shuts off and cant think straight. You need to find a way to somehow let it out. Cant say go backpack for a few days because you have a family to take care of...but try talking to friendly strangers, do something you haven't tried before(in a good sense) that doesn't cost money, just somehow get everything out of your system, try unplugging even if its for 2-3 days and then come back and read the comments again. I'm sure you'll see things much more clear. The help is already here!

That was as honest and close I can get to feel what you might be going through. Having said that, its always easier said than done. God bless you! Dont forget to comment to this thread once you are back up and strong! :)

greenwalls 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Don't give up. When you hit rock bottom that's when you have no other choice but to turn it all around.
xplorer 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Which kind of company did you start? There's always hope. If you are a developer or sysadmin you can easily find a job.

Keep up!! Everything is going to be alright in the end!

Don't give up, keep your head up and keep looking up, then you will find some positivity in your life.

vasundhar 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey Buddy,

It happens to many, It happened to me. Entrepreneurship as we all know is not easy, if you are financially unstable don't think the world is Goog to end day after tomorrow. It doesn't and shouldn't. Get a relief, get your skills tuned, get employed somewhere and work on your passion and if things work out you can be / will be a success story. However don't Loose hope and passion for what you do. Beat wishes .

hkbarton 25 minutes ago 0 replies      
hey, it's not the end of the world, maybe you will gain huge if you found it's very hard this time. Don't give up!
Cyberis 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Risk has its rewards.... but also its disasters, which is why it's called "risk." Before taking it you have to consider the cost of failure. If you can't afford the failure, don't take the risk. That being said, you're in a tough place and hopefully zedshaw actually has a list and not a bunch of hot air. I'd take him up on it and get something to provide income. BTW, while failing seems to be harder on us men, failing doesn't mean your not a man, but failing to take responsibility does speak to your manhood. So get up and get going.
yangtheman 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Hey man, I've been there (two failed startups). Whatever you learned during that time should be valuable assets/skills in many startups. Hang in there. You gotta be there for your family.
cpt1138 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I have hesitated going all in because of Barbara Sher's infomercial saying "you don't go shopping for new clothes naked."
philjackson 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Where are you? How can people here get a hold of your CV?
Altan 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I can't even imagine the pain you're going through. I know it's tough to think rationally now, but if theres one thing that'd help is that you need to write down and memorize everything that went wrong so you never do it again once you get your second chance (everyone deserves a good second chance).

Hang in there man, you'll be surprised how many good people are out there that are willing to help. Never stop asking, never give in, always remember what you're fighting for. You'll be in my thoughts

ssfermoy 1 hour ago 0 replies      
A very brave thing to write. Don't judge your self on how the dice fell. By just having tried you've done more than most people ever will.
wesgarrison 1 hour ago 0 replies      
If you're in Kansas City, my company name is databasically and my first name is wes and I use a dot com. Shoot, if you're not in KC; email me and let me know how I can help.
mugenx86 2 hours ago 0 replies      
You may have lost your dream, but you have gained time to focus on your family and well being.

Find a job and take it easy for a while. Rebuild and come back stronger!

pbreit 1 hour ago 0 replies      
If you have any technical skills, you should immediately go get a good paying job.
JacobIrwin 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Stay strong. Another statistic - in favor of the world's need for talented engineers! Maybe not bound to be a self-made man, that's all.
djuggler 2 hours ago 0 replies      
You aren't alone. And it gets better. Just don't do anything terminal.
Neolis 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Keep calm and carry on! Do not give up! We will be there for you.
luistroche 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Hang in there. At this time is important for you to get back on your feet as soon as possible. Find a job and be there for your family. About the foreclosure: did you talk to a lawyer? can you delay the process a little longer?. About your company: can you share some information about your visions?. What do you think went wrong?. My best regards for you and your family.
toobulkeh 1 hour ago 0 replies      
best of luck. If you want to fall back on security, I personally have good connections in the stable large companies in the South East US. If you need a stable income for awhile and are willing, please let me know.
limaoscarjuliet 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Do you need some real, immediate help, as in food and other necessities? Do not have millions to spare, but can help with some things. How can I contact you?
benmorris 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Live and learn. Luckily developers are in demand these days.
adventured 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I won't say you should do X Y or Z. There's no way I can know what your best course of action is going forward.

I'll just say, given the only thing that really matters is your family, what you do from here on out will dictate what kind of man you are, rather than the fact that your company failed.

Shinden 27 minutes ago 0 replies      
read the book Millionare fastlane. just google it it's available via electronic book version, Within that book it will tell you where you went wrong and hopefully it will steer you in the right direction.
rpddh9 15 minutes ago 0 replies      
pls put up a paypal acc and we can all chip in..
jayrparro 2 hours ago 1 reply      
have faith! keep up!
weishgoname 1 hour ago 0 replies      
it will be alright! there is always a way out. Good Luck
fastisslow 2 hours ago 1 reply      
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fiatjaf 1 hour ago 1 reply      
Seems like a troll.
Ask HN: Do you consider people buying into Bitcoin today as 'early adopters'?
14 points by markhall  3 hours ago   20 comments top 10
kitcar 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Most would likely fall into a "speculator" definition, as they don't actually use bitcoins for transactions - therefore they aren't really "adopting" bitcoin, but rather are just stock piling something in hopes it goes up in value in the future.

I.e. if I buy 20 new xboxes but leave them sealed for resale before Christmas, I'm not really an early adopter, instead i'm just a speculating opportunist, even though I did purchase the consoles the day they were released - the same time the "early adopters" did.

michaelhoffman 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I consider the people buying into Bitcoin today as lesser fools.

The people buying into Bitcoin tomorrow are greater fools.


mike_esspe 1 hour ago 1 reply      
There are around several hundred thousands of bitcoin users. There are more than 7 billion people. Bitcoin is in the very early phase.

For comparison: first GSM call was made in 1991. In 1994 subscribers hit 1 million, nowadays there are several billions. Would you consider someone with GSM phone in 1994 an early adopter or not?

fragsworth 2 hours ago 1 reply      
If by 'early adopter' you mean 'in it before the price skyrocketed', then yes.

I don't believe I'm a slow learner, but it took me about 1 year from first learning about Bitcoin to becoming comfortable enough with the technology to speculate on it.

I honestly believe it will replace Gold as a store of value, but it will take a very long time for the general public to understand it enough and/or trust it enough that they'll sell any amount of gold for bitcoins. But when they do, perhaps in a slow process that peaks around 15 years from now, the value of a single bitcoin could end up somewhere around $300k.

I personally estimate the likelihood of this being around 10-15%. So yeah, I'm still buying more today.

OafTobark 17 minutes ago 0 replies      
No. While Bitcoin is still insanely young, it is hardly at the early point by which I would say this is still an early adopter phase anymore.
SkyMarshal 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Nope. Early majority now, especially with it getting big in China.

Innovators were the early miners who invested in actually taking BTC from 0 to 1.

Early adopters were those who got into it prior to 2013 when most of the mainstream considered it a scam or were otherwise scared off by the price instability.

With the recent government hearings I'd say we're right at the start of the early majority phase.

Geee 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Yes, from utility point of view it's still just a protocol and an experiment. Many iterations of applications will be built on it before it becomes mainstream. As an investment, early adopter days are over.
nighthawk24 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Bitcoin market adoption looks like a skyrocket curve compared to other tech. Hence the early adopters window closed a while back during the first 4 years when 50 coins were being mined every 10 mins.
michaelochurch 2 hours ago 2 replies      
People won't remember Snapchat's fall from grace or Groupon's mediocre twilight. They'll be talking about Bitcoin (and however it busts) in 2050, 2100 even. Not because it will be worth a damn. It won't go to zero. It will be a neat novelty "good" that is fully electronic. It will hold some value, just like Black Lotuses would still be a part of gaming history if no one played Magic anymore.

Still, I expect it to tank. It might have enough relic power (as the first, if not the best) to hold a value around $50 million in toto (or $6/BTC). Why? Because the forced deflation is a Dick Move of epic proportions: favoring early adopters for no good reason. As it turns out, Dick Moves damage your reputation in the long run, and all Bitcoin has is a brand. What stops someone else from creating a new cryptocurrency without the hard upper limit?

There is something interesting about it, which is it reminds us that we truly really have no fucking clue where value comes from. Nation-states? Companies? Total abstractions, many fraudulent or flimsy. Bitcoin has some transient value because some smart people solved a hard problem, but there's no long-term brand advantage or natural monopoly. But it's still pretty fascinating that smart people can create so much value (often "of out nothing", but sometimes genuine). Or take Magic: cardboard probably worth a billion dollars in totality. The first trillion-dollar business is going to be one that recognizes the value of the time of high-talent people and somehow provides direct access in a scalable way (independent of social networks, because well-connected, talented people are already in-place). I've had a rough idea of how that might work-- a call option exchange on high-talent peoples' time, see http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/fixing-employ...: -- but I admit I have no idea how to scale it (or even deal with the ethical assurance issues).

adventured 3 hours ago 0 replies      
There are two early adopter classes that I think matter in this sort of case.

First are what I'll refer to as technologists. No elaboration necessary, you get the gist.

Second are Jane & Joe consumer.

People buying into Bitcoin today are early adopters as far as consumers are concerned, and they're years behind on the technologist scale.

Bitcoin has reached enough publicity at this point that a former business partner of mine - she's in her mid 60's, and is a very very light user of technology, that hasn't yet joined Facebook, has never once used Twitter, has heard / read about Bitcoin. She is a CPA, so we had an interesting conversation about the implications of Bitcoin. She gets the premise of digital currencies, but not exactly how Bitcoin works (why mining exists, who controls it, how the encryption works, and so on).

Publicity wise, Bitcoin is quite widespread, it has spent months in the mainstream media at this point. Consumer adoption is clearly still in the first inning however.

Ask HN: Do you trust a company with a website built with Twitter Bootstrap?
3 points by fargo  43 minutes ago   2 comments top 2
ancarda 17 minutes ago 0 replies      
>Would you provide your card details with the same ease you would on a different website?

The only thing I'd look for would be EV SSL. No "green bar", no credit card.

mschuster91 23 minutes ago 0 replies      
I don't care with which tech stack a website was built. The really interesting thing for a quick check is more: does the website use SSL for sensitive data?
Ask HN: Would you buy or sell bitcoin at current rate? Why?
2 points by anujkk  32 minutes ago   1 comment top
justinireland 16 minutes ago 0 replies      
It depends on your price target. I personally think BTC is going to the tens of thousands in the next few years so I see no reason to sell now and even buying at $1k is still relatively cheap.
Ask HN: How do you think about your startup idea?
2 points by wilbertliu  1 hour ago   discuss
Ask HN: What's worked in gaining traction for your business?
3 points by man_bear_pig  2 hours ago   discuss
Ask HN: Why is Bitcoin price increasing?
3 points by howon92  2 hours ago   3 comments top
byoung2 2 hours ago 1 reply      
Supply and demand. Bitcoin used to be a niche, only followed by a few hackers and enthusiasts (low demand). At the same time, by design, mining was easier (high supply). Now Bitcoin is becoming more mainstream, and even the skeptics are starting to buy in, both literally and figuratively (increasing demand), at the same time that mining is becoming harder (decreasing supply). As Bitcoin gets wider acceptance, and as mining gets more difficult, the price will continue to rise, until it reaches a plateau.
Ask HN: What is your favorite system for static website generation?
19 points by jaytaylor  9 hours ago   16 comments top 14
ElongatedTowel 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm using one I wrote myself. I'm not sure if it makes sense to ever release it, seeing that there are already over 9000 more mature generators out there, but I'm trying to solve some problems I've had with others, which mostly are:

* A simple interface (Unlike e.g. Pelican, which uses Makefiles to prettify it's command line interface)

* A sane template engine (Basically ruling out anything Ruby. Jekyll's Liquid engine for example only provides includes, no template inheritance)

* No unnecessary large dependencies like requiring Django

* Freedom of choice (I want to use YAML and Markdown)

* Tightly coupled asset pipeline

* Enough building blocks to quickly solve most usecases

* Should easily be usable on Windows (No makefiles please, no compiler necessary to install)

* Pluggable theming and extension support

Most newer generators solve most of these problems. For some reason most of them are written in Ruby though, which to my surprise has very popular template engines which don't even provide template inheritance.

pjungwir 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I use Nanoc for http://illuminatedcomputing.com/. I tried Jekyll first, but I didn't like using Liquid. Instead I write the templates in Haml and the content in Markdown.
amitu 7 hours ago 0 replies      
I love djangothis, https://github.com/amitu/djangothis. http://amitu.com/2013/09/djangothis-for-blogging/.

I am biased because I built it, but if you like jekyll, but prefer django/python, you should give djangothis a try.

jeddi 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I use Mynt [ https://github.com/Anomareh/mynt ] - it's got a small community of users, but the primary author is active and responsive. It uses python and sass.
draegtun 8 hours ago 0 replies      
It's an oldie but I still use Template Toolkit for building most of my static websites - http://www.template-toolkit.org/
pvorb 9 hours ago 1 reply      
Hakyll (http://jaspervdj.be/hakyll/) ist pretty sweet if you know Haskell.
eswat 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Started getting into Assemble (http://assemble.io/) since Ive been digging deeper in Yeoman + Grunt + Bower lately.
mitchtbaum 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Pelican (https://github.com/getpelican/pelican) is a great static site generator. I really like the power of content metadata. The plugins are good, and development is ongoing. To top it off, the users on IRC are friendly and helpful. I'm sold.
gatesphere 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Flask with FrozenFlask provides a nice framework to roll your own. Which is what I've done for every site I ship.
thibaultCha 7 hours ago 0 replies      
I wanted to build my own for my website, so here it is, a command line tool released as an npm package: http://thibaultcha.github.io/Equiprose/

- It's using Jade and Stylus for templating.

- It's a commande line interface.

- Natively supports emojis, a la GitHub.

- YAML for configuration and Markdown for redaction.

- You can create as many websites as you want, they can all be configured differently and be served on test servers or build to their output directory.

Riley 7 hours ago 0 replies      
My favorite is Simplpost: http://simplpost.com/blog/what-is-this-thing/

It's not a command line tool, but it makes nice responsive static sites. And it's easy enough for my girlfriend to use. That's why I built it.

kape 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Middleman (http://middlemanapp.com/), easy to setup and deploy and uses Ruby.
kayman 6 hours ago 0 replies      
emacs org mode converted to html using org-publish. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-publish-html-tutor...
binaryautomata 9 hours ago 0 replies      
I like Cactus (https://github.com/koenbok/Cactus) and PieCrust (http://bolt80.com/piecrust/). They are both super flexible and have met my static generator needs nicely.

Haven't tried Hyde or Jekyll.

Ask HN: So what's the job market like for generalists, really?
3 points by esonderegger  3 hours ago   3 comments top
ryanfitz 2 hours ago 1 reply      
I can only speak for NYC, but its very hot. A couple of months ago my startup failed and I was looking for a job. I was only interested in early stage startups and wanted to work on every part of the tech stack (frontend, backend, devops....). In the span of 2 weeks I met with over 2 dozen startups and received a number of great offers.
Ask HN: What kind of side projects are you working on?
89 points by gembird  21 hours ago   106 comments top 72
bpodgursky 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Open-source visualization of our solar neighborhood: http://uncharted.bpodgursky.com/ source https://github.com/bpodgursky/uncharted
iamwil 20 hours ago 1 reply      
1. Cubehero - Hosting 3D printed projects https://cubehero.com

2. Embossanova - Emboss images to surfaces in OpenSCAD https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/embossanova

3. Graftleaf and Graftweave - Graftconcept iPhone module back covers https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/graftleaf https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/graftweave

younata 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I have been building this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6618834

It's been fun. :D

Sir_Cmpwn 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Lots of them.

Open source implementation of Minecraft https://github.com/SirCmpwn/Craft.Net

Reddit API wrapper https://github.com/SirCmpwn/RedditSharp

kernel written in z80 assembly https://github.com/KnightSoft/kernel

TI-8x emulator in javascript https://github.com/SirCmpwn/OpenTI

And lots more https://github.com/SirCmpwn

acesubido 20 hours ago 1 reply      
A simple CSS/JS library recreating the Windows 8 Modal. Still working on tablet/mobile support (which im pretty sure is just a css style cursor: pointer;)


Another side project I'm currently in the process of designing:

Personal Problem: Me and my wife have some folders with so many random files. Too troublesome and time consuming maintaining it to be clean and organized. Pictures should be in a specific folder, installers in another one, etc. an example is the "Downloads Folder"

Solution: A small command-line utility that organizes a folder on where it runs from. This small command-line tool has only one parameter: a JSON file that contains "Rules" on what it will do on specific files. ex: .mp3's should be placed on a folder, .docs on another, etc. And so on and so forth. It could also come as an "installable" service/daemon that watches over folders. Still learning more about Scala, it's used in where I work, may write this command-line tool in that language for educational purposes.

garrettdreyfus 3 hours ago 1 reply      
I just finished this weekend hack I really like.https://github.com/garrettdreyfus/LibstripperIt's a handy (i think) command line tool to extract the code you actually use from css libraries like bootstrap.

Not much compared to other comments here!

kitsune_ 20 hours ago 0 replies      
A columnar time series db with an lmdb backend - I have only just started and it us quite a struggle.

A map / tile server written in go. So far MapBox' mbtiles work.

This came from a peculiar interest of mine, whether my city needs yet another underground parking garage. So I started to scrape the public rss feed of the parking system. I have some gigs of data by now and RethinkDB is not as performant as I hoped it would be. There is no real query optimization as of yet.

What I want to visualize is whether you can find a parking spot at a certain point in time and reach a spot, for instance a shop, within a certain threshold by foot. In short, if you want to shop at XXX will you have trouble finding a parking spot?

evincarofautumn 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Kitten, a programming language based on zero-cost abstractions (https://github.com/evincarofautumn/kitten). Competing in the same space as C++, Rust, and Nimrod. Statically typed, type-inferred, stack-based, higher-order, GC optional, with an effect system to manage side effects. Very much a work in progress, but you should stow it in your brain as a systems language to try in the future.
krapp 5 hours ago 0 replies      
http://precis.gopagoda.com/ a threaded outbound-link aggregator. It needs a lot of work but i'm hoping to turn it into something cool. Currently incredibly slow because it's on a pagodabox free account and has no caching whatsoever. Also bootstrap and most of the buttons don't do anything still.

also https://gist.github.com/kennethrapp/ccb392c399d72efd8b0d a terminally unfinished Hacker News userscript to handle block/unblock/following users.

baruch 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm interested in finding more about disk failures (HDDs and SSDs), possibly with an eye to create an advance warning system for increased chance of multiple failures in a RAID system or the imminent failure of a single disk.

Blog is at http://blog.disksurvey.org/

Sub-parts on github: http://github.com/baruch/diskscan and http://github.com/baruch/disksurvey

wturner 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I just started this web audio app to see if I could make something that translates well to tablet devices, and help me learn php. The server isn't hooked up but the front end works. http://helpknow.com/snd
darrenkopp 9 hours ago 0 replies      
SassyStudio, provides much needed support for SCSS in Visual Studio.


Currently it supports compiling css (via libsass), syntax highlighting, outlining, and intellisense.

agilebyte 20 hours ago 3 replies      
Visualizing crime of a city I am moving into: https://github.com/radekstepan/deadmonton

GitHub Burndown Chart:https://github.com/radekstepan/github-burndown-chart

motiejus 19 hours ago 1 reply      
Docker replacement with emphasis on tool reusability. Docker made incremental builds right, and I love the idea. However, it reimplemented the whole tooling around it instead of using what's in there.

It will support FreeBSD/ZFS/Jails and Linux/LVM|BTRFS|ZFS/LXC on the first release. My goal is to re-use existing tooling as much as possible.

I am writing it in Haskell.

cruppstahl 20 hours ago 0 replies      
http://hamsterdb.com - a C++ key/value store. hamsterdb is AFAIK the only key/value store which supports typed keys (i.e. uint32, uint64, blobs). under the hood the btree optimizes the memory layout for this type, just like a column store DBMS does. I'm now moving slowly towards adding analytical functions, but it's still a long way to go.
prezjordan 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Cleaver: 30-second slideshows for hackers


shadesandcolour 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm working on an iOS app that lets you manage and edit Jekyll websites on Github. check it out https://github.com/bringel/staticly
lowglow 21 hours ago 0 replies      
1. A news/blogging platform: http://techendo.co

2. I also organize and run the san francisco hacker news meetup. http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Hacker-News-Meetup/

3. Dev school grading site: http://schools.techendo.co

4. Burrito: http://burrito.techendo.co

5. Tribes: http://tribes.techendo.co

6. Next up is an app that helps businesses find their distribution channels -- to be released in a week or two.

7. ..and finally a kickstarter for a hacker tool coming early next year.

Join us on #Techendo on freenode to chat. :)

fotcorn 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Firefox OS port to the HTC One: https://github.com/firefoxos-htc-one

Round-based RPG Game written in Java/libGDX: https://github.com/andef4/adventure-game

Whatsapp for FirefoxOS written in TypeScript: https://github.com/andef4/ch.bfh.bti7054.w2013.p.fxos_whatsa...

All of them are still pre-alpha quality.

JamieLewis 21 hours ago 1 reply      
An open source stream processing framework (https://ghostream.com) - it isn't really ready for the limelight yet, but you can find the code base on github (https://github.com/ghostream/ghostream) - final steps on the to do list are a few more example projects, a couple more functional operators and to polish up the documentation.

It has hit the 80-20 scenario. The last 20% is taking 80% of the time :)But it has let me quickly prototype a few little ideas (http://jamielewis.me.uk/posts/2013-11-03-Mapping-Earthquakes...)

mildavw 8 hours ago 1 reply      

Started as a joke among my dev team and we've now sold a few shirts and plan on developing the idea.

japhyr 14 hours ago 0 replies      
An open teaching and learning resource for Python: http://introtopython.org

(source: https://github.com/ehmatthes/intro_programming)

eranation 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Scala tutorials (http://scalatutorials.com) - it's a "try scala code in your browser" (powered by scalakata.com) and has a basic tour at the moment, but I'm working on making it more like try ruby / codecademy, much more work than I thought by the way
rythie 20 hours ago 1 reply      
1. Helping people run faster: https://cleverrun.com

2. Stats about where you spend your time: https://clevergeo.com

3. Something with pebble and it's accelerometer, probably related to sports.

captn3m0 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Open source github based jekyll blog editor that runs completely on client side. [1]A CRM system, and a designer collaboration tool.

[1]: https://github.com/captn3m0/potion

amrit_b 20 hours ago 1 reply      
I made embedding transcoded videos as simple as using the <img> tag --> http://transcode.io

Working on the production version atm.

david927 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Brodlist: making it possible to query semantic data in a way that's easy and fun.

Kaya: A new paradigm in software construction.

alashley 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm working on a mobile/web app that lets users track their medication intake. It will use nfc tags that you tap each time you take the medication, so there's no risk of taking it more than the recommended number of times daily. It will also keep track of an side-effects you experience and prompt you to call the nearest pharmacy for refills. At the moment, I think I will target Android for the mobile app.
Boldewyn 20 hours ago 1 reply      
Almost all of the little spare time I have goes into http://Codepoints.net, presenting and explaining Unicode codepoints.

Edit: The page is fully open source: https://github.com/Boldewyn/Codepoints.net

jamesbritt 7 hours ago 0 replies      
A double-album (more or less) of songs and dance music.
hackNightly 5 hours ago 0 replies      
A hosted call center solution using Node.js and RethinkDB
intellectronica 19 hours ago 0 replies      
A youtube-based jukebox server in dart: https://github.com/rounds/jukebox-mode

We use it at the office to queue songs a chatroom and listen together.

dlhavema 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Multiplayer Acquire client/server (android/php-mysql)
fbnt 17 hours ago 0 replies      
A News reading App based on the most popular news stories being shared in real time on Twitter: http://newspo.st
mooted1 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Computer algebra system that yields the steps it takes to produce a result. Mainly intended as an educational tool to help teach math. This is actually my first side project since I (re)learned to program a few months agoeverything I'm using to build this I learned at work.
glazskunrukitis 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I built a SSL certificate store GetSSL.me[0] and so far it has been really great. Our goal is to make SSL certificates available to everyone.

[0] https://getssl.me/

NicoJuicy 20 hours ago 0 replies      
A personal automated email sender, using vars and conditional statements (Eg. Multiple languages are possible, we live in a country where most of them speak: french, dutch, german or english, so that's a big + over here).

Create a poll (or mail) and mail them to clients when you sold for > 1000 should be an option :)

It's actually meant to get feedback (automated) from clients with a more personal touch or to follow up on a sale of 1 month ago (how the car is, ...)

stevekemp 19 hours ago 1 reply      
A system to test blog/forum-comments for spam in real-time: http://blogspam.net/

A list of pubs in Edinburgh: http://edinburgh.io/

A mail client: http://lumail.org/

abengoam 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I am tired of repeating this again and again, so I am doing some yak shaving and creating a hosted rest service for managing user accounts and authentication. I will use it as basic infrastructure for future projects.
bearbin 8 hours ago 0 replies      
MCServer, a open-source minecraft server:


daliusd 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Last weekend I have created http://microbezilla.sandbox.lt/.

Now I'm working on HTML5 turn-based strategy multiplayer game about space pirates.

dazzla 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Deal Drop (and now Tech Drop) - iOS/Android shopping apps http://www.getdealdrop.com Been working on it for a few years. Nice side income but still trying to grow it to be my main income.
caulagi 19 hours ago 1 reply      
1. A community driven listing of events around you - http://sntd.pw - https://github.com/caulagi/sntd

2. A website for children to share their toys - http://toystori.com - https://github.com/caulagi/toystori

warcode 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Streaming Twitter client in javascript since the last one I used died. Early version at https://deny.io/river/
louyang 20 hours ago 0 replies      
News search engine: http://wintria.comJava applet games (from a while ago): http://codelucas.com/pages/rocketboy.htmlhttp://codelucas.com/pages/island-overlord.html

Trying to learn some js gaming engines though.

amarraja 16 hours ago 0 replies      
A UK based price and product tracking site (http://salr.io)

Almost there, but I've been working on it solo, and development stalled for a bit whilst I struggled with motivational issues and analysis paralysis. Hope to get something MVP-able very soon!

preddict 17 hours ago 0 replies      
A site for people to record their predictions, to say whether they agree or not with other people's predictions and later to see who was right.Let's see who can predict the best what will happen in the world!


obsurvey 14 hours ago 1 reply      
Interesting reading about all your projects. I'm working on http://muscula.comLog JavaSript errors in production. It installs like Google Analytics.
qzervaas 20 hours ago 1 reply      
I've just started a site that aggregates open public transit data feeds. It lets you quickly see differences between feed versions, discover new feeds, and I'm working on APIs to easily bring in better real time data into apps


davedx 20 hours ago 0 replies      
An invoice management app

A multiplayer RPG in JavaScript

timmy-turner 20 hours ago 0 replies      
A terminal emulator - https://github.com/hoeck/schirm - using a browser to render the screen, allowing programs to use HTML and Javascript as an alternative output (via a CGI like interface).
kranner 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Speed-reading iOS app for ePub http://velocireaderapp.com
watermel0n 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I am working on Readbox (https://www.readbox.co). It's a news reader founded in collaboration with University of Naples Federico II.
pdrummond 15 hours ago 0 replies      
An Android game called Foobit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6800828
shaunrussell 20 hours ago 1 reply      
My current side project is http://upbeatapp.com, working on it with two co-workers, and having some success.

Been having fun with Go-lang koans and Angular.js uiRouter as well.

igvadaimon 20 hours ago 0 replies      
International social network for freedivers - http://theabyss.de/

With buddyfinder, user blogs, as well as list of freediving spots and events.

mikeroher 20 hours ago 2 replies      
I'm making an online store in Rails for a specific target market (have to be vague). I'm building it mostly on my own and I'm looking for a second developer to help me out.
git-pull 19 hours ago 0 replies      
git/hg/svn repo mass-updater from a YAML / JSON file. http://pullv.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html

tmux workspace manager in python. JSON / YAML configs. session workspace freezing.http://tmuxp.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html

philipb 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm making an offsite status page SaaS: https://statusutils.comIts in beta, and I could use some feedback :)
ds_ 20 hours ago 0 replies      
A service that allows single page ajax applications to be indexed with minimal effort http://crawlspa.com
jlepis 5 hours ago 0 replies      
WriteTracker - A resource for writer's to track the submission process as well as find potential markets to submit their work. http://www.writetracker.com
anuaitt 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Sharing Gmail Tasks gmailsharedtasks.com
300 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Trying to build soomething which can help to job seekers: http://besthi.re/
Vektorweg 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Actually, i work on curve-based rasterization, to build a game later on it.
Leander_B 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Private tech recruitment community: http://likewise.io
mesrine 20 hours ago 0 replies      
1) Internet-Side for Magic Cards2) little JavaScript-Game
matiasb 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Co-browsing solution with go & redis
ra00l 19 hours ago 0 replies      
simple image optimization app: http://www.imgoptimize.com
mm4p 20 hours ago 0 replies      
My pet project is the development of the concept of "mind map for programming" (mm4p). It is a mix between literate programming and visual programming with the capacity to work with text file and any programming language you want.

My feel good project is Sahana Eden.

ibarrajo 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm making a social sharing application, dedicated to street food vendors, it's called tacotuyo.. very early in development still (about 20 hrs in) http://tacotuyo-elninja.rhcloud.com
markosaurus 19 hours ago 0 replies      
A console so we can share the API data from our Bitcoin asic miner without allowing access to the console.

Soon to have google charts implemented.

hagope 20 hours ago 1 reply      
a better trash can
Ask HN: Is Apple going downhill?
14 points by bitops  6 hours ago   11 comments top 9
shirro 4 hours ago 0 replies      
The MacBook Pro used to be an easily upgradable device which was a great choice for developers. It had superb build quality and you could easily develop for Mac, Windows, Linux, Web, iOS and Android on a single machine without too much messing about.

I walked out of the store in 2009 with a device where you undid a few screws and the whole back came off giving easy access to upgrade ram, hard drive, replace dvd, fan or battery. My first stop was to buy a bigger hard drive and double my memory with reasonably priced commodity parts. Replacing my battery when it ran out was cheap and trivially easy.

I look at the new MacBooks and the RAM is soldered, the SDD is proprietary, the battery is glued in place. I don't know if they have gone downhill but they have certainly alienated some customers and forced them to look elsewhere. If you aren't looking to develop for the Apple ecosystem I think the justification for buying a MBP has diminished considerably.

ambirex 5 hours ago 0 replies      
In fairness, I don't ever recall hearing anyone say "iTunes sure is a fine piece of software"
erichocean 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Maybe you do need a Steve Jobs around after all to yell at people so that the software is any good.

Apple had one in Scott Forstall and Tim Cook fired him, in the name of furthering "collaboration" at the executive level (whatever that means). IMO that was the singular event that defines Apple in the Tim Cook era.

My take is that Cook intends to coast at Apple until his 10 years are up, managing operations well but not taking any risks, and removing anyone who would take risks. It's an acceptable strategy, but it's just not what we're used to from Apple.

So, like another commenter said, I agree that it's mostly an expectations problem. It's not just that Steve Jobs and Scott Forstall are gone, it's that Apple, under Tim Cook's direction, has made a conscious decision to be a different kind of company.

mergy 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Yes. I saw quality slipping last year around hardware and software when I dealt with a lot of different items from Apple.

The perspective also depends on how you look at your devices and the timeframe of expected use. Apple equipment used to be the kinds of devices you could have in production for many years. But, they are really now much more a consumer device company and part of the device churn. If this is acceptable to you (as a user) then you probably don't care because you will just skip the next hardware revision and get the one after (timed with some sort of Apple software obsolesce incentive) and be fine.

Last year around this time, I wrote this:


But then Lloyd Chambers did a detailed piece on the decline here:


But there are many more examples before me and others. Before the holy war kicks-in, I think it really is an expectation thing.

jamespcole2 2 hours ago 0 replies      
I have noticed a drop in stability and quality recently. I personally have never owned an apple product, I only use Linux, but I do need to interact with iDevices fairly frequently and some little areas of quality are slipping.

The apple TV we use in the office for playing music has not worked correctly since the last firmware update and really struggles with streaming and the new MBP we purchased recently had a bug where the keyboard and mouse would randomly stop working(fixed in an update). These aren't huge problems but I think they are not something that would have occurred a few years ago.

That being said if you don't want to make the switch to linux then the apple/unix ecosystem is still much better than the current windows options but I think apple is losing its reputation for quality as it moves from being a high end luxury product to a standard.

rajacombinator 1 hour ago 0 replies      
i'm probably one of a handful of people with this opinion but I actually see Apple accelerating away from the competition. with the latest product cycle they are innovating on multiple fronts, the integration is becoming really compelling, and their competitors are probably already a year+ behind. Apple hardware are museum-quality pieces of art that clunkers like Samsung/Dell can never hope to compete with. their software has been lacking, but Mavericks and iOS 7 was a huge step in the right direction. I think the one area they're losing in right now is telling their story.
eugeneross 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Apple is flatlining. They are staying consistent with new product updates and still are competitive in their markets. I don't see much growth if any, though. So no, Apple is not going downhill.
blueash 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I like apple. I still buy their products, but I do not think that I am a fanboy. I recently bought their new Ipad Air and it has been great. But to me it is "just an ipad"... meaning, if something truly awesome came out to replace it, I may consider that option as well.

It just seems like they really have not created anything recently that has really "wowed" me. Maybe they put the bar too high for the wow factor.

gesman 6 hours ago 2 replies      
Apple is "made in ______"

Complete the puzzle and here's the answer.

Ask HN: Would a "union" of programmers work to end patent trolls?
13 points by eof  10 hours ago   8 comments top 5
biff 9 hours ago 1 reply      
I like the concept. That we both feel the need to put quotes around "union" suggests the term might be too loaded to use for programmers, but fixing that's as simple as hanging a label on it like "Independent Programmers For Innovation".

Of course, you give it a title like that, you almost have to turn it into a PAC at some point...

ultimoo 8 hours ago 0 replies      
ACM's Software Engineering Code of Ethics[1] is great place to start.

[1] http://www.acm.org/about/se-code

wlesieutre 9 hours ago 2 replies      
Unlike a factory, patent trolls don't need you to work for them. If it's just a lawyer in an office, what's your bargaining power?
lightblade 8 hours ago 0 replies      

Create a github account/repo on this. Write the initial draft. Discussions goes into issues. Changes in pull request. Signing by staring the repo.

meerita 8 hours ago 0 replies      
The problem is the patent model itself.
Rather than keep posting blogs about the Penny Arcade job article...
3 points by dpcheng2003  3 hours ago   discuss
Ask HN: starter books for learning about grammars, parsers and compilers?
3 points by michaelsbradley  22 hours ago   1 comment top
creature 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Basics of Compiler Design is quite theoretical, but it's available online for free: http://www.diku.dk/~torbenm/Basics/
Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?
169 points by fabrizioc1  9 days ago   110 comments top 31
simias 9 days ago 11 replies      
The thing with HN is that there are a lot of interesting threads that get increasingly drowned in "drama" contents: stuff about politics, the NSA, silicon valley drama...

See the G+ outrage lately: there are three articles about that at the top of the frontpage that say exactly the same thing with exactly the same comments. It's reddit/4chan tier "pitchforking".

The problem seems to be that the community is growing quickly and as a consequence the upvoted articles are those who cater to the lowest common denominator and it keeps getting lower. It's a problem all successful communities face.

The usual solution might be to migrate towards a smaller community as you propose, but the problem then is that you have to rebuild everything from scratch over and over again.

IMO a simpler solution would be to make a "meta-HN" which would just add an other layer of moderation on top of the existing HN:

- Remove all "drama/politics" entries

- Merge entries about the same topic under a single item.

Then just link to the usual HN comment threads. I find the quality of comments usually reflects the quality of the article so I think it would work well for me. No need to rebuild everything from scratch and rebuild the community.

The HN you once liked is still there, it's just getting increasingly buried it low-relevance contents.

jrockway 9 days ago 4 replies      
Reddit has gotten better recently, as long as you stay off the popular subreddits. Pick your 10 favorite hobbies or interests, and subscribe to those subreddits. It's got to be specific: not programming, but programming in Java; not electronics, but amateur radio; etc. (I will admit I enjoy r/AskReddit, which is where people write short stories in response to a prompt in the form of a loaded question. Ask Metafilter is much less creative, in comparison.)

A lot of people are recommending r/programming. r/programming is why I quit Reddit a few years ago. It's all "computer-related cult wars" rather than actual discussion about programming. Everyone goes through that stage in their programming career, but it's not interesting to read about, and most people eventually grow out of it. Not r/programming.

jrockway 9 days ago 2 replies      
MetaFilter. You have to pay $5 to post comments, and the comments are formatted in such a way as to discourage trolling, long digressions, and other annoying Internet comment features. The material is usually not amazingly interesting to me, but the community is very pleasant.
angersock 9 days ago 1 reply      
Try going to the "new" section and upvoting content you would like to see. If we all don't do that, of course the site will get overrun with stupid kneejerk posts.
michaelmartin 9 days ago 0 replies      
I quite like Alex McCaw's http://monocle.io/ - It's quite similar in topic to HN, but with less of the news/gossip/drama stories.

It also moves a lot slower, so if you miss a few days, it's fine. Just one page or so of links will show you all the best from those few days.

milliams 9 days ago 1 reply      
http://hckrnews.com/ to avoid the 'never made it to front page' problem.
t0 9 days ago 4 replies      
davidw 9 days ago 0 replies      
http://discuss.bootstrapped.fm has some good discussion related to bootstrapped startups, and seems to have a good community.
eric-hu 9 days ago 0 replies      
I've found that meetup.com and a free night a week serve as a great alternative. programming meetups have given me deeper discussions about software engineering or given me a chance to work firsthand with people in languages or frameworks I'm curious about.
adrianhoward 9 days ago 1 reply      
On the startup side I'm often finding more things that are interesting to me on the community side of http://www.usv.com/
ivan_ah 9 days ago 0 replies      
I recently signed up for hubski, which is very similar in style to HN, but uses a tagging system so you choose to follow only the topics you are interested in.


So far it has been very good signal to noise...

SkyMarshal 9 days ago 0 replies      

I figure I only read about 10% of the posts on HN, and focus on the ones about actual technologies I might use or evaluate. And honestly, that 10% is all I have time to read anyway, so it works out just right.

The only better option is to go to reddit and subscribe to all the relevant tech subreddits you're interested in and unsubscribe from everything else. That's more like drinking from the firehose though, requires more mental overhead in filtering only the absolutely most useful and relevant.

Also, http://pineapple.io if you just want cool tech and no discussions.

ElbertF 9 days ago 0 replies      
Tycho 9 days ago 0 replies      
Look at the new page instead of the main page.
DanBC 9 days ago 0 replies      
> Lately it seems I go to HN look at the front page and decide "I don't want to read any of these". Where do other HN readers go


potomak 9 days ago 1 reply      
tlo 9 days ago 1 reply      
fcambus 9 days ago 0 replies      
For JavaScript, HTML5, and front-end news, there is Echo JS : http://www.echojs.com
debacle 8 days ago 0 replies      
I've been spending more time in the technology dedicated subreddits. While the general content is lesser than HN was ~1 year ago, it's more on topic. I only see 3-4 stories a day on HN worth reading, which honestly is nice because it limits my browsing time.
sauravt 9 days ago 1 reply      
I think the only satisfactory alternative to HN, which could attract hackers and hackers only would be some sort of a termminal application, and you would be able to browse it through terminal only, that way we could get rid off all the classy people and hence the drama/politics posts it will be a hacker's paradise like HN used to be.

The only question is, how do we do it ?

tephra 9 days ago 0 replies      
I like http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ It is focused on programming languages and PL research
japaget 9 days ago 0 replies      
Kluny 9 days ago 0 replies      
Quora is quite good.
ecesena 9 days ago 1 reply      
Theneeds [1]?

We built Theneeds with a similar idea in mind, that people should come and just find interesting stuff, personalized according to their interests (we learn from users' activity to get smarter about what the interests really are).

We focus on a broader range of topics than just tech & science, thought there is a good selection about that too.

[1] http://www.theneeds.com

yoodenvranx 9 days ago 0 replies      
I wish there would be a simple tag system to classify the posts a bit. For example i am not interested in most startup posts but rather would just see only programming and technology related articles.

How many tags would be sufficient to classify most posts? Startup, marketing, programming, science, politics, ... That's actually a quite hard problem!

cubitesystems 9 days ago 0 replies      
I love Hackernews.

Here are my additional addictions (in order of preference):

* http://reddit.com/r/futurology

* http://reddit.com/r/linux

* http://theverge.com

* http://techcrunch.com

dying place (although I still read it): http://slashdot.org

* http://techdirt.com

* http://reddit.com/r/bsd

* http://reddit.com/r/opensource

naiyt 9 days ago 1 reply      

Although it's just programming (the rules say that if there's no code in the link, then you shouldn't post it).

lowglow 9 days ago 0 replies      
I'm going to shamelessly plug http://techendo.co/not as an alternative, but as a supplement. :)

We're also on irc: #Techendo on Freenode!

en4bz 9 days ago  replies      
For C++ lovers I find that http://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/ always has pretty good content.
Why do I hardly ever see an Apple employee on the internet?
20 points by be5invis  6 days ago   9 comments top 7
dandrews 6 days ago 0 replies      
I've noticed this too, and can only imagine that Apple clamps down hard. People I admired before they joined Apple (such as David Betz, Jordan Hubbard and Doug Field) became practically invisible, as if they'd fallen into a black hole.

I suppose they're well cared for, but I also suppose that it can be lonely in there.

the906 1 day ago 0 replies      
Hmmm...what do you mean exactly? Multiple ones are on twitter etc. http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-employees-you-should-fo...
shloky 6 days ago 0 replies      
Apple has notoriously strict security protocols. I actually wrote a book about it, but here's some resources (near the bottom) http://theriseofsiri.com/inspiration/
samspenc 6 days ago 0 replies      
You don't see them at conferences either. :/
codegeek 6 days ago 1 reply      
What do you mean by the "internet". If you go on linkedin for example, can you not search for people working at Apple ?
anon110 6 days ago 0 replies      
There's also a certain amount of fear involved: I know some Apple employees online (not blogs), but does sharing information about it endanger that? Who knows...
Ask HN: Do you know of any startups working on wildlife/habitat conservation?
34 points by rblion  9 days ago   22 comments top 14
stevenrace 9 days ago 2 replies      
While I'm not aware of any that explicitly focus on conservation, there are established ways to get involved as a business. I'm in the sensor-networking space and spend a lot time following this domain. What follows is just general advice in leu of respoding with 'I want to know too' to your post.

First, (and USA-specific) check the RFQs from various government organizations. The process can be foreboding and favors established companies - but a real need (and money) exists for those that follow this path.

Secondly, check with local universities to see what research is currently underway or planned.

Lastly, profit models really only exist in parallel with regulation. Sadly, unless corporations/landowners are chasing tax breaks or avoiding fines, you won't see people flocking to buy technology for auditing water/air/soil quality.

Edit - Also Agriculture is a profitiable conduit for developing conservation tech. (Water conservation , animal tracking, soil quality, etc are all in demand)

alexandros 9 days ago 1 reply      
Some friends are involved with this. Feels pretty relevant:https://www.tigernation.org/

I can connect you if you like, email in profile.

nowarninglabel 9 days ago 1 reply      
It depends on how you define a startup. Do small, growing non-profits count? If so, then there are a number, such as http://www.spaceforgiants.org/

There's a number of ones on the periphery, one for example is Airware http://www.airware.com/ which is working on autopilot for drones, which you may say what does that have to do with wildlife/habitat conservation? Well they are partnered with Ol Pejeta Wildlife Conservancy in Kenya which is deploying a drone to monitor/deter poachers of rhinos.

RussianCow 9 days ago 1 reply      
There's a non-profit in Portland, OR called Ecotrust[0]. Their goal is to make fishing and farming more sustainable for the environment. They also have a for-profit child company called Point Nine Seven[1] that mainly deals with fisheries.

[0]: http://www.ecotrust.org/

[1]: http://pointnineseven.com/

Jd 9 days ago 1 reply      
We do something like this with Evergreen (www.evr.gr). It's a virtual currency that is partially backed by rainforest that we purchase when people exchange other currencies to ours. We are for-profit but have partnerships with a couple non-profits that manage the conservation efforts.
oomkiller 9 days ago 0 replies      
I don't know of any that are hiring, but there are lots of non profit conservation orgs that could probably seriously use some tech help if you're just looking for somewhere to volunteer.
skadamat 9 days ago 1 reply      
Depends, what kinda aspects? E.g., there are a few companies that make drones and satellites for governments & wildlife agencies to better spot poachers and track deforestation and do targeted, efficient, data-driven efforts to reduce them. Just bringing this up since most people have listed the direct agencies & nonprofits but nobody mentioned people who are making technology to help agencies and nonprofits!
memracom 9 days ago 1 reply      
Yes, your startup. I just finished reading your Indiegogo.com project page a few moments ago, just before I stepped into my time machine and popped back to 2013 so that I could write this comment.

Good luck on your project. More and more people are finding that it is more satisfying to fund projects through sites like indiegogo.com and fundrazr.com than it is to make charitable donations in the traditional way.

mikeburrelljr 4 days ago 0 replies      
Cuipo: Saving the Rainforest One Meter at a Timehttp://www.cuipo.org
HashThis 9 days ago 0 replies      
EarthEconomics.org is and they are great. They are Zillow (house valuations estimator), but for undeveloped land. They put a value on the property if it's natural state is removed. They use academic research data to calculate the value of wetlands, wild life, erosion control, regulatory compliance, etc.
naboavida84 9 days ago 0 replies      
We're a Tech SMB working on Natural Ecosystems and Habitat conservation and development. Read more about us at http://www.earthindicators.com
jenntoda 9 days ago 0 replies      
Not directly, but can support related projects: microryza.com
mapmeld 9 days ago 0 replies      
Check out Nerds For Nature in the Bay Area: http://nerdsfornature.org
rblion 9 days ago 0 replies      
Wow, thanks everyone. I didn't expect this great of a response.
Who's sold their Bitcoin?
12 points by markwakeford  8 days ago   11 comments top 10
llamataboot 7 days ago 0 replies      
I sold the rest of mine when we hit $850 for a bit earlier today. Still hurts that I sold the vast majority of my BTC (about 1000BTC or so) at the whopping price of $2, when I had quadrupled my initial investment....

Mostly I try to use them as means of exchange, rather than speculation tool, but it's hard on weeks like this one...

notdrunkatall 7 days ago 0 replies      
I've been watching bitcoin since $10 or so, and always thought that I should buy some. At $30, I thought it was too late, but when it went to $250, I resolved to buy more if it crashed. It did, and I bought five at $80, just to get my toes wet. I planned on buying more if it ever dropped that low again, but of course, it never did, or hasn't yet... I just sold one this morning to cover my initial investment. The 4 I have left are all profit, and I'm gonna let them ride.
the906 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'd wanted to buy a bunch two years ago but was still a poor grad student and thought the price then was too high...i could have paid off my student loans...
gesman 8 days ago 0 replies      
Someone (actually one of the biggest bitcoin mining equipment developer) donated me 10BTC back when they were about $1000 in total.

I tried to sell them but luckily almost got scammed, bank refused transaction and I didn't lose much. So i ended up keeping 8 BTC still :)

guiambros 8 days ago 1 reply      
Sold at $220, for a 150%+ profit. Felt great, thinking it wouldn't get any higher this year.

Yeah, right.

markwakeford 8 days ago 0 replies      
2250% Return on investment is rather nice. I wish I had bought more though haha.
thrillgore 7 days ago 0 replies      
I ended up selling the last of mine back when they went up to $80 some year or so ago.


2810 8 days ago 0 replies      
I wish I could say that I bought 1000 btc few years back and sold it for $900 yesterday.. but no
rafeed 8 days ago 0 replies      
Holding onto mine until I see a dip; this is shooting straight to the moon right now.
phaed 8 days ago 0 replies      
I sold my 10 at $309 :(, bought 3 back at $400 the next day.
Rant: Why should I email my CV?
5 points by razvvan  6 days ago   8 comments top 6
leknarf 6 days ago 2 replies      
Employers don't need your CV, the recruitment firms do. They always ask for them in a .DOC format because many have internal databases. Providing a .DOC makes it easier for them to upload the file to that system, where they can then search for prospective applicants by keyword.

Providing a CV won't make it any easier for you to get the job you're actually discussing. It just makes it easier for them to send you emails like: "I see you have 4 years experience with JavaScript. We have an exciting opportunity to join a team of rockstars working with Java and Spring".

There's another concern to be aware of: some unscrupulous recruiters will edit your CV. That is, if they see a job posting looking for someone with x years experience with Spring, they might just add that to your CV, even if you've never worked with a java stack.

talles 6 days ago 0 replies      
I see working in a 'prestigious area' as a downside. I have worked on a rich neighborhood in my city, the price of everything nearby was way too high (for the same stuff I can buy where I actually live).

About the CV thing I bet this is a legacy workflow that most companies still used to.

bennyg 5 days ago 0 replies      
This has bothered me for a while. I want linkedin to output a PDF resume without all of the cruft.
bsmirnov 6 days ago 0 replies      
They also asking for word Doc so they could put their logo on top of the CV.

I dont even own word anymore.

a_l_e 6 days ago 0 replies      
Giving an employer an exported Linkedin CV would show thay they don't know you very well, that maybe they don't know you at all. They must show something to tjeir clients at ghe end of the day
adultSwim 6 days ago 0 replies      
Ask HN: Easy Address Updater
2 points by contacternst  3 days ago   2 comments top
skram 3 days ago 1 reply      
I've looked for something like this before too.. I dont think it exists. Sometimes companies will get notified by USPS that your mail was forwarded and automatically change your address in their records or at least remind you to do so. That's my experience.

At the same time, being a security-conscious nerd, I'm not sure I would want to give even revocable OAuth access to a third-party portal to go in and change addresses to many of my most sensitive accounts... not to mention the fact that most banks etc dont have public APIs even if someone were to want to build something like this.

Just my two cents.

LinkedIn's New Way to Kill Itself
3 points by jprince  5 days ago   6 comments top 5
bmelton 5 days ago 0 replies      
I hate LinkedIn, but I've always found that to be a feature, not a bug.

I very seldom bother with LinkedIn, but on the rare occasions that I do, it's always because of a connection I don't want to miss out on. My boss from 10 years ago, for example, found me on LinkedIn and connected, and I accepted that connection with zero hesitation. He was a great manager, and literally made everybody around him better, and I'm more than happy to have my name alongside his.

That said, there have been people with whom I've worked alongside for years whose requests I let languish. Good friends, in many cases, and often competent workers, but, at the same time, not necessarily those I'd be willing to speak effusively on for a job recommendation.

In short, my criteria for a LinkedIn connection is whether or not I can answer the phone unprepared and sing to a potential employer about how amazing they are. For anybody I can do that with, accepting the connection is a no-brainer... for everyone else, it's basically a non-starter.

That LinkedIn makes it hard to remove contacts only solidifies that decision for me all the more.

dangrossman 5 days ago 0 replies      
> if it turns out I don't want to be associated with them, I can't EVER remove them from my network


stevekemp 4 days ago 0 replies      
I feel your pain. I only setup an account there to issue takedown notices against people who would copy and paste articles I wrote into "groups" as their own work.

I could find zero way to do this without becoming a member.

J_Darnley 5 days ago 0 replies      
Mark as spam. That's what I did when I received invitations from random people to join linkedin.
palidanx 5 days ago 1 reply      
What bugs me more is the zillions of e-mails you get from the LinkedIn groups.
How do you go about contributing to open source projects?
6 points by joeldidit  8 days ago   3 comments top 3
bendmorris 8 days ago 0 replies      
Just do it; the project will be grateful to receive your contribution. Find something that needs to be done, fork the project, do it, test it, and submit a pull request. Many medium to large projects will have lists of things that need to be done, and will usually have many more tasks than they have manpower to complete in a timely manner, so pick one that matches your skillset and have at it. You can also take a look at their issue tracker for ideas. It's probably worth coordinating with the other developers to make sure you're not duplicating effort, but feel free to just jump in there and start contributing.
horofx 8 days ago 0 replies      
I maintain the carrierwave, minimagick & memcached-manager ruby gems. If you are interested in any and has a decent knowledge of ruby I can help you to get you going(or anyone interested from HN).

I got started by writing PR's, reading the codebase of the projects and making myself helpful whenever I could.

Ask HN: Why does no one use client certficates for auto-authentication?
12 points by mars  12 days ago   10 comments top 5
tptacek 11 days ago 0 replies      
TLS client certificate authentication is technically quite good, better than anything else you have available in a browser.


* The UX for installing a certificate on a Windows or Mac machine is atrocious; it's incomprehensible even to people who understand X.509, and might as well not exist for laypersons.

* The browser UX for matching certificates to sites is not much better; the mechanism basically only works if you have a single client cert you use for every site.

* Getting certificates from a CA introduces yet another nearly incomprehensible UX element, and leaves your site to the mercy of the CAs you trust.

* Issuing your own certificates involves you building a hopefully- less- incomprehensible UX for getting certs into the hands of users, and also implicates a chicken/egg problem of figuring out when it's OK to issue a cert to whom.

Spooky23 12 days ago 1 reply      
What security does this provide that another token like a cookie does not?

Certificates provide value where you can independently attest that the client is who or what it appears to be.

Client certificates are the basis of MDM solutions, for example. In a corporate setting, I enroll my iPhone with the MDM, linking that device and phone number to my identity. The MDM solution issues certificates identifying my device and my identity to that device. That allows subsequent interactions with corporate systems to be authenticated.

If I drop the phone in the toilet, get a new one and restore it, I must re-enroll, as the phone serial number changed. The old certs are revoked. The key assumption is that the mobile device platform can be trusted to provide an accurate serial number, phone number, etc.

Browsers cannot be trusted much, if at all. A modestly clueful attacker can spoof all of the metadata provided to the website. I can take that client certificate and copy it to any other browser.

danpalmer 12 days ago 0 replies      
It's used extensively in finance from what I've seen. Not personal or even business banking, but trading, investment portfolio management, financial advisors, those sorts of area. Everyone is given a certificate they install, and that's to identify them.

I've also used it in client-server applications, not on the web, and it was very effective as a transport layer security mechanism, but in that case it was devices talking to devices in an automated way, so there was never a problem with user experience or education of users.

martinml 12 days ago 1 reply      
How do you solve multi-device login? Also, that seems to require JS, which may or may not me a problem.
mattwritescode 12 days ago 0 replies      
I use it on a personal project as a kind of two factor authentication method.
What can I say about sexism in tech without getting shadowbanned?
6 points by elevenpercent  8 days ago   8 comments top 4
DanBC 8 days ago 1 reply      
Threads about sexism on HN are toxic. No useful discussion ever happens in them. Flagging them is the only useful option.

Posting this in a thread full of those toxic people is going to get you heavily downvoted:

"I fucking hate how openly misogynistic HN is. I don't even want to bother sifting through this shit anymore.

s/women/black people/gs/attending/going to elite, white-only colleges/g"

hackinthebochs 8 days ago 1 reply      
I'm no expert on the rules around here, but from what I've gathered, accounts past a certain threshold of negative karma are automatically shadowbanned. There's no conspiracy nor did you piss off the wrong mod for saying the wrong thing about sexism. Your only mistake was having your first set of comments be on a contentious subject, which increases the risk of downvotes and getting shadowbanned.
goldenkey 8 days ago 1 reply      
I'm actually kind of curious to see the "moon rune" comment chain mentioned. Someone is actually calling non-latin languages "moon runes"? Seems humorously innocent if anything at all.
DenisM 8 days ago 0 replies      
You're likely over-thinking it - mistakes happen is all. Email pg to get unbanned.
Ask HN: Is Bitcoin in a bubble?
9 points by Jackmc1047  12 days ago   12 comments top 7
Houshalter 12 days ago 0 replies      
It looks to me like a bubble. Much of the people investing in bitcoin are doing so because of hype, or at least it looks that way. Also there is no real way to short sell on bitcoins, so the market is entirely controlled by the people who are into the hype. People who are skeptical don't have much affect over the price.

However that doesn't mean bitcoins are in a bubble, for that the true value would have to be lower than what it is. And I don't know how to even roughly estimate bitcoin's true value. That is, what the price will turn out to be in the long run, what the supply and demand will be. That depends on how big the bitcoin economy will grow, and the hype, while irrational, might actually bring enough people to it to make it work. Or it might just die as people get disappointed or move onto the next thing.

jordanbaucke 9 days ago 0 replies      
I think Bitcoin's price is dictated less on "fundamentals" in the traditional sense.

And more on it's market irregularities (take for example the inability to withdraw USD via the SWIFT banking system without a 6 month delay from MtGOX)

It makes "price discovery" in the sense of a true currency valuation very hard to estimate, and the illiquidity makes the instrument very prone to HUGE run-ups and sell-offs. I actively trade it, and believe that a price target of over $1000 is a strong technical possibility. Though what it "resets" to after this run-up is anyone's guess.

yen223 12 days ago 2 replies      
Exponential curves are to be expected for any value whose growth rate is positively correlated with its value - essentially, when you have positive feedback loops where the more you have of x, the faster x grows, which causes you to have more of x, and so on.

In this case, Bitcoin price growth made it more popular, which caused more people to start investing in Bitcoin, which further increased its price. The exponential shape of Bitcoin's price curve is entirely normal.

The real question is, does Bitcoin's current price match its "true" value? I personally believe the answer is "no", but that's like, my opinion, man.

creativeone 12 days ago 0 replies      
Yes and maybe. Yes, just like there was a bubble when it broke $200 in April 2013 and it came back down. Maybe, just like there was a bubble when it broke $200 in April 2013, came back down and continued rising beyond the $200 point.
reiz 12 days ago 1 reply      
Still not sure about that. If you have to pay tax for it it's just another currency. A currency with cool features! But I'm not sure if this is the end. I think something better will come after bitcoin.
rrich 12 days ago 0 replies      
It certainly appears so. If you take into account how governments may react to its use in the long run, it would seem rather risky at these lofty levels. But then again that may be the real value, and thus what really supports the price level, its inability to be controlled.
Avalaxy 12 days ago 0 replies      
Ask HN: Is there a phrase for this kind of development
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staunch 14 days ago 1 reply      
Resolution. I've been buying 1920x1200 15" laptops for along time. My latest laptop is a retina MBP, which I have only because of the resolution (it's fine otherwise too, but nothing special). I just wish the screen wasn't glossy.

Other requirements: SSD, discrete Nvidia graphics card (which do great under Linux), lots of RAM.

I probably wouldn't work anywhere that wouldn't let me run Linux on my machine without virtualization.

brokenparser 14 days ago 1 reply      
Most important would be the capability to run any OS I feed it (without any signature bullcrap) because I am what I am and the supplied OS is never good enough.
ra00l 9 days ago 0 replies      
weight: this is th most important. it's a laptop, you carry it around, so it should be confortable to carry

SSD: speeds everthing up

keyboard/trackpad: you're a developer, so you write a lot. Make sure it's confortable to do so

screen: you spend a lot of time in front of the screen, so make sure you get something that's easy on the eyes.

veesahni 14 days ago 0 replies      
portability, screen quality, good keyboard, reasonable price

Right now my favorite is the ThinkPad X series (eg: X240)

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