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Ask HN: Social Network Alternatives?
5 points by Zera  1 hour ago   1 comment top
dsirijus 51 minutes ago 0 replies      
No. Nothing nearly of that scope. And that's what you need. Broad coverage.

LinkedIn maybe, but I've deleted (very useless) account there, and hate them from the depths of my soul. Someone called LinkedIn a virus and I tend to agree. I'd also trust them far less than those two you've mentioned, solely on their technical incompetence.

Ask HN: WebApp to transfer Photos from Google+ back to Flickr?
2 points by ksec  39 minutes ago   discuss
Help HN: Does anyone need a programmer for the next two days?
69 points by devonbarrett  11 hours ago   48 comments top 11
larrys 9 hours ago 1 reply      
I feel bad for you and actually considered simply advancing you $300. But then I saw this:

"From start to finish Devon wasted my time for nearly 6 months, teased me with a demo, then went AWOL, then came back from holiday without advising me and then still didn't provide any communication. I chased him for two months and been very patient but the lack of comms on his part was very frustrating. I would never deal with him again, as I cant trust his judgement and would not be confident for him to complete any work on time.


Noting that the other reviews by the same person don't fit that pattern:


Most of the other work for which you have positive reviews are for smaller dollar amounts.

Reason for the negative feedback?

jawns 11 hours ago 1 reply      
I notice your website has a projects page, but it's empty.

Can you tell us about anything you've worked on in the past?

sdoowpilihp 10 hours ago 0 replies      
I can help out, and I do have a small (i.e. easily finished in a day) node.js project that I would love some help with. email me at the address in my profile if you haven't already found someone.
uptown 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Why do you need the money? Someone might be willing to float you if the reason/situation is valid.
devonbarrett 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I just want to say a big thanks to everyone! I was completely taken a back by the reaction, and the fact this hit the front page astounded me - thank you! If I have not replied to you yet I will try to by the end of the night, I have been swamped. Thank you HN!
salibhai 11 hours ago 2 replies      
If you don't get a response, there is always odesk, freelancer, guru, etc..
swohns 10 hours ago 1 reply      
I'd like to help a fellow hacker in need! We have a project that could use some django expertise. I'd love to see some of your work first though, mind sending it my way? My email is in my profile.
cpach 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Im afraid I cant help you out directly but I wish you best of luck!
dkroy 10 hours ago 1 reply      
I most likely would be willing to float you the money just email me, and we can talk.
aarondf 10 hours ago 1 reply      
jiggy2011 11 hours ago 1 reply      
Stop buying crack on credit.
Ask HN: Frontend eye for the backend guy?
8 points by reinhardt  4 hours ago   4 comments top 3
throwaway420 3 hours ago 1 reply      
The most important thing you can learn is that it's ok to not be a hipster.

It's ok to not be up-to-date with every technology choice. No matter how smart you are, please realize that front end engineering evolves at a dizzying rate, with new hyped up libraries, frameworks, techniques, and best practices emerging all of the time. Even if you do front end stuff full time you'll go mad trying to use half of what you read about.

I think that the best way to learn this stuff is to pick a problem that you want to solve and learn the pieces necessary to solve it in a logical fashion. You'll start out with HTML, try and style it with some CSS, and then add a touch of interactivity with some JQuery. Then you'll start to have more and more code and you'll logically reach out for tools like Sass, and RequireJS and others to organize things when it becomes overwhelming. Then once you start solving bigger and bigger problems you'll eventually look into Backbone, and maybe other frameworks once you can't build a maintainable solution with what you know. Learn stuff as appropriate to solve the problem you're working on.

ebiester 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Well, what are you trying to do? A product? A web application for enterprise? Do you need to understand design, or are you just looking for the ability to proof of concept something out, or are you looking for jobs that require front end capabilities?
bl00djack 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I would say go step by step from html, css, JavaScript then jQuery. You will get better understanding of front-end after that. Go to w3school and learn those. You will have better understanding after at least two days or so depending on your learning speed. It worked for me
Ask HN: Tips getting RAWs from wedding photographers?
11 points by yajoe  7 hours ago   14 comments top 9
acomjean 6 hours ago 1 reply      
I shot a number of Weddings in the past decade (usually 2 per year, not how I make a living, but I apprenticed so...). I wouldn't worry about getting "Raw" files. While I always shot Raw I always delivered jpgs, I think at 8 megapixel equivalent (My Canon 5d is only 13 megapixels.). This will be Fine for most size prints. 2.5 megapixel is clearly is web only.

I processed the images in lightroom to give them the look I wanted and delivered a large set of high quality jpegs. The post processing / sorting of files takes a lot of time, so not having to do that would lower the price. Digital wedding photographers take a lot of photographs so sorting them can be onerous. Play that the fact that you'll sort and post process yourself.

Plus some photographers don't want to give you all the photos as invariably some are Out of Focus or not great.

Your on the right path negotiating before hand. Expect to pay extra for the rights and images. If you find a photographer that will give those to you, expect the cost to be baked into the price. Its Still better than having to go back to the photographer for every print.

Jedd 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I think your question is actually 'Tips on finding a wedding photographer who'll provide RAWs', rather than trying to encourage this particular photographer to sell you what you want to buy.

The flickr thread linked to in another response ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/weddingphoto/discuss/7215762943... ) seems to be full of photographers explaining why customers are just plain wrong to want raws, and encouraging each other to never provide a customer with raws (lest it set off a trend, perhaps).

This presents a fantastic opportunity for any halfway decent photographer who isn't precious about the 'magic' involved in their work. Haughty self-comparisons to painters being told to provide incomplete work, and film photographers handing over 'unprocessed film' do them no service - these are fatally flawed analogies.

I can think of several compelling reasons for wanting original (raw) as well as maximum resolution touched up jpegs. None of the reasons anyone has offered for withholding raw files is compelling.

helen842000 5 hours ago 1 reply      
As a wedding photographer I can completely understand his reluctance to provide raw files. We would never do it, not for any amount of money.

First of all, he has no control how the raw files will be processed, so if your post processing is poor then someone else asks who shot your wedding, you'll reply with his name. Don't forget you've got the ability to change the end result of his work with raw files and with that goes his reputation.

Additionally the raw files aren't always great straight out of the camera, great pictures emerge after cropping, straightening and balancing the entire image. His perceived skill will be greatly reduced when you see unedited images that are in need of work.

You are paying for his all-round skills to deliver great images not for someone to press the shutter & deliver raw files.

It's the equivalent of asking an artist for his practise sketches & tubes of paint or asking a chef for the raw ingredients, cooking whatever you want with them and the chef still having his name attached to the quality of dish that you create. He may have intended to create a souffl but you may end up creating scrambled eggs and there's nothing he can do about it.

Personally we find that images at 300dpi are optimised for prints (12x8) we scale our print files around 3600 x 2400 pixels. This is around 8 to 9 megapixels. We also provide low-res files too for sharing on Facebook, e-mailing etc.

Perhaps there's some misunderstanding between file size (2.5 megabytes) and 2.5 megapixels - that's more of a sensor size e.g iPhone equivalent.

If you do get raw files, then please prepare them for print correctly, image labs won't accept them at that size.

Instead of asking for raw files, just ask for a larger size jpg and specify 3600 x 2400 pixels for your high res files, that should make it clear what you want and it protects his work too.

wmf 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Get a quote from another photographer and use it to negotiate or just find a different photographer.
adyus 5 hours ago 1 reply      
I'll jump in here as I recently started a side business shooting weddings.

You're dealing with an old school photographer who expects to cover his costs (salary, rent, equipment, etc.) from print and album sales, rather than scare you away with a large initial cost.

It's true that photographers prefer to withhold RAWs because they're unprocessed and in bulk, but that's not your photographer's issue.

I also mention upfront that I only provide web-quality images for the quoted cost, as I believe I can offer my expertise to provide better quality prints when requested, or any other image processing needs (slideshows, albums, collages, etc.). This also provides me with another much needed revenue stream, albeit it's often perceived as greed. I should note, however, that I charge much much less than $4k, as I am in a different market.

What do you intend to do with the RAW files if you get them?

bossfo 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Some of the responses in this thread remind me of our experience finding a wedding photographer willing to provide RAW images. The prospective photographers just didn't seem to understand that we were hiring them to provide a service to our specifications, and that we had no interest in justifying any of our choices to them. It was a very strange and sometimes frustrating experience.

Ultimately, we posted a detailed ad on Craigslist and (in-between hate mail and being flagged several times) were contacted by several interested photographers. The woman we hired did exactly what we wanted, for a fair price, and did a phenomenal job. We could not have been happier.

My advice is to post an ad on Craigslist detailing specifically what you're looking for. Prepare yourself for many prickly responses, and prepare to re-post after it gets flagged. You'll eventually find someone.

As an aside, we also required that the photographer assign copyright in the images to us, though we did allow her to use any images not containing people or names for her own promotional purposes.

Best of luck!

donniefitz2 6 hours ago 1 reply      
As a part time photographer myself, I find it very strange that your photographer will only give you 2.5mp files. That is not standard practice. Typically, you would get full-rez, processed .jpeg files.

I would never give a client the RAW files, neither do most photographers. RAW is incomplete and they require processing, which is part of the service offered. It's like asking a film photographer to provide the negatives.

But you should expect to get the full-rez processed .jpeg files with personal use rights.

YoAdrian 6 hours ago 1 reply      
Try here (no affiliation): http://www.mywedding.com/seattle/photographers

Also found this discussion amongst photographers:http://www.flickr.com/groups/weddingphoto/discuss/7215762943...

Most don't want to give away RAW files as they aren't the "finished product" or they aren't a format most people can view. Many just want more money for them.

dylz 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Tell him if he doesn't give the raws, you use another photographer.

He's trying to scam you - simple.

Ask HN: Any js lib to implement the effects like apple mac pro ads?
2 points by tyrchen  3 hours ago   1 comment top
cstrat 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Have a read of the comments here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5856410

Lots of discussion around how it was achieved.

Ask HN: Moving away from the JAP tag
2 points by mxmpawn  3 hours ago   discuss
Ask HN: Looking to call video tutorial authors, any leads?
2 points by bakztfuture  7 hours ago   discuss
Ask HN: Did you delete Facebook account after the NSA fiasco?
7 points by geekam  1 day ago   12 comments top 7
terrykohla 7 hours ago 0 replies      
No. I deleted it way before that when I found out private companies where doing this. At the time I was job hunting and became well aware that companies could pay money to have access to my online data. Particularly companies that do any sort of background checks.

IMHO there is nothing "new" about the NSA fiasco.

krapp 1 day ago 0 replies      
No. There's no point, they're just going to keep my data indefinitely anyway and give it to whomever they want. "deleting" is meaningless when it comes to facebook.
scottmey 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Yes, but it's been on my mind for a while ( ever since my feed has become populated with advertisements ). The NSA fiasco wasn't really the reason, but it definitely helped me conclude the time was now.
X4 15 hours ago 2 replies      
Tell me a way to delete my data on facebook, afaik there isn't one. Not even the way of going through the law and legal system. I live in europe, but even that doesn't help.

I considered using an exploit to remove some data, but that would shot in my head. And it's patched now anyway

LoganCale 1 day ago 1 reply      
I deleted my Facebook account years ago. I still have a Google account, but I use it minimally. I started backing away from Google before all this began, even.
ibudiallo 1 day ago 0 replies      
Deleting your data on Facebook or Google doesn't change anything. They just mark it as deleted.
dlinder 21 hours ago 0 replies      
Forget the pointlessness of deleting your account - the real value is not continuing to feed the beast.
Ask HN: Is iOS 7 Beta reliable and stable enough to use on your primary phone?
7 points by awwstn  1 day ago   10 comments top 9
mikestew 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Well, if you're "installing it now" it's a little late to ask, isn't it? :-) I put it on my iPhone 5, which is my primary phone. Having been through many betas before, I'm prepared for some things to not work. Previously, mail, SMS, and phone functionality have always worked and that's what I expected this time. Those important functions work reliably in iOS7.

I've restarted once because something in Safari locked the whole phone. Some apps are broken (Podcasts), or look wonky in spots (Find My Friends). Everything mostly works, though. Even the Pebble app to connect to the Pebble watch. I figured if anything would break, it would be that.

If you want everything to work all of the time, never put the first iOS beta on your phone. Something is always not right. (Last year I was at WWDC, and the new maps app wouldn't render maps for me, just a grid. Not knowing SF that well, that was a major breaking change for me. <G>) Wait until beta 3 or so if you need reliability.

martingordon 1 day ago 1 reply      
I installed it on my old iPhone 4S. Battery life is atrocious (even with WiFi-only Airplane Mode enabled) and everything is choppy. I've had the phone reboot on me a few times. I've also read that Apple's Podcasts app doesn't work.

I can deal with all the other issues, but terrible battery life is a dealbreaker. I'll hold off putting it on my primary phone until it improves.

meerita 19 hours ago 0 replies      
Not on iPhone 4. I tested it on my friend's phone and it went unusable and you're also risking geting the phone locked. I would wait the last version, more polished in all aspects, specially on the speed one, because on iPhone 4 is WAY slower.
alexgaribay 1 day ago 0 replies      
It has been working pretty well for me. I had an issue during install where I couldn't activate my phone. I had to restore back to iOS 6 and then "restore" from iTunes by selecting an upgrade file. It was a pain but it turned out okay.

As for bugs and such, I haven't encountered any that would stop me from using the beta or are frustrating. The only app I have right now that crashes on my is Google+.

VanV 1 day ago 0 replies      
Put on my 5, no show stopping issues but I definitely agree on the awful battery life. Started at 90% and was at 60% 2.5 hours later with pretty light use. Doesn't seem much slower to me outside of the music app, which is really slow currently.

Have had a few issues with apps, most notably the Apple podcast app which is completely broken. Had one incident where the lock screen was totally blank other than the top bar but was fixed by a restart.

tagabek 1 day ago 0 replies      
iPhone 4S here:

Pros ~ Two words - Control Center. I can easily change anything that I want without jailbreaking. It seems like they are moving towards an SBSettings-like iOS. For reference, SBSettings is a jailbreak-only package that allows you to change nearly every aspect of your iDevice.

Cons ~ Some apps are broken and will just not really work (ie. Alien Blue) with iOS 7 yet. Lag is very small but just enough to be noticeable. Restoring from a backup may take overnight, depending on the amount of data you already have. Some features can take some getting used to before you feel comfortable (ie. displaced 'delete' button when typing in passcode).

lsiunsuex 1 day ago 0 replies      
Airdrop didn't work for me last night (to a new Macbook Pro) BUT I haven't installed the latest OS X update so maybe that was it. Weather app (built in) crashed on me. And the wife says eBay's app crashes on her.
nayefc 1 day ago 0 replies      
On my 4S, it's pretty slow (mine was a little slow on iOS 6). Battery life is pretty much the same.
glisom 1 day ago 0 replies      
Minus a few apps, yes
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4 points by harisenbon  1 day ago   discuss
Ask HN: How Do You Market A Hotel Comparison Website?
5 points by johnmoore  1 day ago   11 comments top 6
murtza 19 hours ago 1 reply      
Here are some ideas to consider:

1. When I see a domain name with the keywords you are targeting, I associate it with spam. My advice is to come up with a memorable name that is less than 10 letters. Think along the lines of Kayak, Hipmunk, Expedia, and Orbitz for inspiration.

2. Figure out why your site is different, and make it your focus. Why should I use this site over Kayak? For example, in addition to Kayak, I will check StudentUniverse, a travel aggregator that focuses on students because they offer discounted rates for my age group.

3. Pick a niche to start with. For example, one niche is Americans who want to travel to China. Many Americans do not know about Elong, Qunar, or Ctrip. If you make it easy to discover these sites, this will provide value for your users.

4. Once you figure out why you are different and you have a picked a target demographic, start driving traffic to your site by contacting people through email, forum posts, and partnerships.

Let's stick with the example above about Americans going to China. I would first email Americans living in China that are writing blogs, and ask them to let you do a guest post about your site. Write about how it is hard to book hotels in China when you are new to the country, and why your site could be helpful for their readers. Second, I would respond to posts where people have questions about booking hotels in China (Thorn Tree Travel forum, R/China, R/travel, Quora, Twitter). Do not spam or you will get deleted. Provide valuable information as a subject matter expert. Third, set up strategic parternships. For example, trade links with websites related to travel in China but in different industries, such as businesses focused on day tours like visiting the Great Wall.

5. I think there is a lot of good literature out there for Google Search Adwords, so I will focus on Google Display Ads. Use the feature that allows you to add a list of sites to display your ads on. Make a list of 250 websites you want target that are relevant to your niche, and only displays ads there. Then track which sites are sending you people that are converting.

I hope that helps for now. Feel free to email me to discuss further.

piratebroadcast 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Try advertising on specific travel-related subreddits, and disabling the comment functionality.
luxpir 20 hours ago 1 reply      
Based on the title, I wanted to offer some advice. You're in the UK, even closer to home and more intriguing. You mention some real figures too, great.

But now I look closer, you only seem involved to make a 'quick buck'. You haven't taken long enough to look at Adwords to turn off the 'Display network' ads, and then went on to blame Google and pester their staff rather than RTFM.

The problem you're solving isn't very interesting in itself, which is perhaps why I sense so much urgency to make money, not to solve people's problems. Maybe work on something you actually care about? 50 of free credit to market a whole startup isn't exactly pushing the boat out.

I might have more constructive things to say if you actually care :)

danprime 1 day ago 0 replies      
I would spend some time and find out where your target users are hanging out online. Then, assuming the places they hang out are not competing websites, figure out how to advertise on those places.

How? Perhaps try surveying completely random (non-friend, non-related) people (at a cafe or perhaps a wifi park. Say something like "Hello, I'm John. I'm conducting a survey and I only need __ seconds of your time. <Show them a tablet/laptop/internet device> If you wanted to compare <name of two hotels> what would type in google/bing/duckduckgo/whatever?"

Be sure to record what they search for and look for trends.

2) Ask a follow up question, what site(s) do they go to when they're preparing/researching for a trip.

3) Thank them for their time!

It'll cost you an afternoon or two but you'll definitely gain more insights than looking at google analytics.

DonCarlitos 1 day ago 1 reply      
With all due respect, asking coders to weigh-in on marketing may not be your best move. It may be more productive for you to join some Linked-in software/digital marketing groups, then pose the question there. The simple answers to your questions are: don't just depend on ads, but tightly target the ads you do use; use PR to the extent you make key editors, podcasters, bloggers and twitter personalities aware of your site; make a Facebook fan/site page; open a Twitter acct., follow key people in the travel/hospitality industry, then get them involved... it's a lot of work. The alternative, fund marketing and hire a firm to do it for you.
sixQuarks 22 hours ago 1 reply      
Nice site. How did you get all that content? Kind of reminds me of booking.com
Posting to HN is like exposing yourself to the eye of Mordor
202 points by dsowers  7 days ago   121 comments top 20
jasonkester 6 days ago 11 replies      
There are a lot of people who don't understand what this place is for. Hacker News is a cocktail party. It's a bunch of smart people getting together and shooting the breeze about whatever we see on the front page. If you understand that, you'll fit in fine.

Lots of new users here don't understand that.

If you spend any time on the internet, you're quickly trained that discussion forums are places for combat. The goal is to look as smart as possible while tearing everybody else down. To have an unrefuted comment is to win, and nobody is going to let you do that so they'll tear your comment apart line by line. Naturally, that person is a moron and needs to be told so, preferably by turning his own trick against him and tearing his comment apart. Stop me if this sounds familiar.

That explains why the hardened slashdot veteran gets such a strange reception here. Have you ever been at a party where there was a guy who just didn't belong there? The belligerent know-it-all butting into conversations? The drunk guy in a room full of sober people? The uninvited casual racist? We've all seen what happens. People drift away from him wherever he goes, sometimes stranding some poor soul talking to him, but generally trying as best as possible to continue the party as normal and hoping he doesn't disrupt it further. Nobody wants to confront him and ask him to leave directly, but they all sure hope he'd get the hint on his own.

That's where we are here today. Except it's a big room and there are quite a few uninvited intruders behaving badly. You'll notice that that guy at the party often doesn't realize that he's out of place. Look through this very thread and you'll spot a few of him, justifying their belligerent behavior and complaining that the rest of us don't get it because this is The Internet and that's how we're supposed to behave.

But we don't behave that way. That's why it's so good here.

jaysonelliot 7 days ago 6 replies      
In my experience so far, posting to HN is more like carving my name on a tree in a mostly uninhabited forest.

My various attempts to post an Ask or Show HN have mostly gone unnoticed. I think it would be great if there were a place that Ask / Show / Tell / etc. posts could get more traction in general.

noonespecial 6 days ago 2 replies      
In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so.

Just watching a feel-good cartoon flick with the kids (Ratatouille) and there's this little gem at the end. I'd like to meet the guy who wrote that in. It sums it all up right there.

gfodor 6 days ago 0 replies      
Unless you are building something for hackers, HN feedback is generally just noise. You might be able to get some legit usability feedback. But for the most part, you're just going to get a bunch of people fixating on one or two likely irrelevant issues (like what programming language you used, what database, if you are integrated with Facebook/Twitter/Instagram, your choice of font color.) There is a tendency for HN commenters to spout opinions that can be readily rejected with real data, I'm surprised more authors do not present their work with a list of common criticisms and data to counteract them.

Really, the best thing you can get from HN is probably refining your skill at being able to separate useful criticism from non-useful. And a thick skin and confidence in your idea and execution, which is a pre-requisite for being able to digest constructive criticism and perceive who are just being Comic Book Guy haters.

danso 7 days ago 1 reply      
I think we're all in agreeance that trollish snark ("Great, Facebook for [insert subgroup]", "This sucks", etc.) is not helpful (and is almost always downvoted, or at least I'll downvote)

But what about: "Why do I have to login to Facebook to see this?", "There are too many typos for this to be taken seriously?", "The font/colors are really hard to read", "It's broken in Firefox", "Facebook tried this in 2009 and they had [such and such] kinds of problems, what are you doing differently?"

I dunno...Maybe people have different expectations when doing a "Show HN?" If you've worked hard on something, of course you should be encouraged ...but if you're pitching it as a viable startup idea...then you, IMO, shouldn't just want "atta boy/girl" comments...constructive criticism now could save you a lot of pain later on.

zalew 7 days ago 2 replies      
A lot of people recently try to enforce some back-patting culture. It's not what drives progress. Deal with it, you're not in pre-school anymore and nobody will give you a medal for participation. If you're unable to handle criticism and take out some value from people's opinions, you'll have a hard time in technology and in business.
readme 7 days ago 2 replies      
I salute the cynics.

There's nothing worse than throwing good at a bad idea only to one day realize you've wasted your time, money, and effort.

If one cynical comment is enough to derail your ambitions, you shouldn't be doing a startup.

beefsack 7 days ago 0 replies      
To be honest, this isn't the place to be posting projects if all you want is for people to see what you're doing and you have a fragile ego. The feedback from here is very valuable if you take it objectively.

I feel that if you want to have your ego stroked and have some exposure for your project, the best place to post it would be somewhere like Reddit. If you want to show some good minds in the field and get valuable advice, then post it here.

minimax 6 days ago 0 replies      
I was much more cynical about new technology products before I tried to build and market one myself. That shit is hard, and most of the peanut gallery here one HN has no idea what it takes.
theshadow 6 days ago 0 replies      
You are right. When I first joined HN reading comments was my favourite part. I would be in awe of all these intelligent and insightful people, I would often skip entire articles and read the comments first. Things have really taken a major turn for worse in the last 6-8 months. Almost every single thing posted gets picked apart to bits and not in a good way. It has gotten so bad that I have actively started avoiding the comment section. My rule of thumb these days is only read comments in threads below 20 posts as these low comment threads are the ones with the highest chance of reading something interesting rather than just typical tired criticism of the of the article. I don't even consider threads with over 50 comments as these are almost always a complete cesspool of negatively.
nitrogen 6 days ago 0 replies      
When to my surprise my creation made the front page of HN a couple years ago (and Gizmodo, Crunchgear, Engadget, ...), the second most disappointing thing was that there was no criticism on HN. Has HN become so much more critical since then?

The first most disappointing thing was that I failed to capitalize on the attention to the extent that I had hoped.

dylangs1030 6 days ago 0 replies      
I salute the creators as well.

As someone who goes out of his way to comment on every Show HN thread he sees, I believe most users are not cynical. I can see why most people could be considered harsh; this is why I try to specifically say I'm being constructive.

I think the best way to go about giving feedback is to start with the negatives (the most glaring, preferably) and then end on a positive note with what the developer is doing properly. This tells the creators that they're doing good work and that they shouldn't abandon their babies (yet), they might just need to tweak things here and there.

Conversely, tearing someone to pieces is mean and not productive, even if the points are valid. There are arguments for this that generally go along the lines of some Darwinian thinking where they shouldn't even be trying if they can't take criticism - that's unrealistic and unfair to expect of people. We all need to start somewhere. Help out fellow members.

Hacker News is not a trial by fire - nor is it meant to encourage a death march. Those are two extremes. A comfortable middle ground where both criticism and praise are given is optimum. And I find there is rarely a submission so bad there's nothing good to be said about if at all.

jonathanjaeger 7 days ago 1 reply      
In general, I see a lot of cynicism on HN, but there's more positivity than other sites and overall a super smart audience. For example, you have to wade through a lot of crap to get a good YouTube comment on a high-trafficked video. Here you don't have that problem. You'll get some quick-to-judge comments but you'll also get great feedback (or at the very least, devils advocate type feedback that's worth discussing). Everything: with a grain of salt.
bichiliad 7 days ago 1 reply      
Personally, I'd rather have "the eye" than posting something and expecting positive feedback. If I wanted that, I'd ask my mom what she thought. At least here, I know that if I get positive feedback, I'm either doing a really good job, or I'm just really good at riding a fad.
tarr11 7 days ago 1 reply      
Do you have something to share? Cmon, we're not that bad. :)
cyanbane 6 days ago 0 replies      
I think the question you have to ask yourself when posting a project to HN is are you ready to receive blunt and sometimes uncivilized responses to your work(?). I think as long as you submit with that filter in full view that even when your work is chided relentlessly for some already obvious gap you can still sort through and determine legitimate criticisms. Say what you will about HN and its strong convictions and shallow snide callouts, but there are not a lot of avenues like it on the internet today for getting actionable feedback.
ianstallings 6 days ago 0 replies      
IMHO you should try your best to ignore what people say unless it's constructive to your work and life. Not everyone will love you and your work and that's okay. Because this is serious business. Stand up for yourself and learn to defend your work, your decisions, and your statements. If they are just trying to get to you identify this and ignore them. But ultimately accept that it's up to you, not them, to change how it all plays out. I know that is probably a tune you've heard before but it's true.
calhoun137 6 days ago 1 reply      
Yea i posted a project on here[1] and got completely ignored, i then posted the same project on /r/gamedev and spent all weekend as the top post with a steady steam of thank you so much this is awesome comments. I really would like the validation of the HN community, but that seems super hard to achieve, if not impossible. Doesnt mean im gonna give up, just gonna keep working hard and hope to get a little lucky.


joeblau 6 days ago 0 replies      
I got more views, comments, and backlash on Reddit than on HN for my project. The HN community is analytical; they will always find a problem with your solution--sometimes people will offer answers and that's where this community shines.
revorad 6 days ago  replies      
I've written up some tips on handling HN feedback on your apps - http://hrishimittal.com/post/45360001796/google-reader-alter...

Discuss here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5831504

Ask HN: Alternatives to HN
187 points by klrr  6 days ago   168 comments top 4
mindcrime 6 days ago 4 replies      
Slashdot, if you don't mind a heavy dose of Internet Meme along with your Interesting Discussion.

There are also sites which focus more on specific topics... if you're into server-side Java stuff, there's http://theserverside.com, if you're into programming language research, there's http://lambda-the-ultimate.org, etc., etc.

And a lot of the more niche subreddits are actually pretty good. Stay away from /r/funny, /r/politics and the other "big" ones and check out /r/machinelearning, /r/compsci, /r/systems, /r/math, or /r/compscipapers, etc.

mmahemoff 6 days ago 1 reply      
The Google Plus Hacker News community is a good supplement, which has 55K members. (I'm a moderator.)https://plus.google.com/communities/104388679763490357266

There are some other worthwhile tech communities on G+ - just visit https://plus.google.com/communities and do some searches, e.g. for your favorite programming language, platform, or framework.

jacquesm 6 days ago 6 replies      

And many other subreddits besides.

tezza 6 days ago  replies      
https://lobste.rs/ - I am not a member, but it looks very similar
Why the private sector cannot help us with warantless wiretapping
7 points by dackmilliken  1 day ago   1 comment top
dackmilliken 1 day ago 0 replies      
I understand that this story is old news for those who pay attention.

The title was in reference to the number of companies coming out against this, which is definitely great! But the large telcos and ISPs dominate the public forum and ultimately our dissemination of this topic.

The only way I have been able to combat it thus far is... educate educate educate. It seems to be the solution to all of our problems!

My name is now out there as a patriot, Hi NSA.

Ask HN: Where is the consumer-grade encryption?
4 points by adambard  1 day ago   1 comment top
lifeguard 1 day ago 0 replies      
The standards are SSL and OS based key escrow for password protected archives. That is all consumers "get". PGP, now GPG, has been around for 30 years and Joe Sixpack still doesn't use it.

Why this is so is left as an exercise for the reader.

What's a "normal" decline in benefits?
5 points by pseudo-j  1 day ago   3 comments top 3
hkarthik 1 day ago 0 replies      
Pay attention to what's going on with the leadership of the startup and the direction of the business.

Some cuts to benefits, food stocking, etc should be expected if you're seeing a major shift in direction. They may have to hunker down for a slow period where they don't acquire new revenue or raise new funding as they figure out where they're headed. It makes absolute sense that they would try to preserve some cash during this time and the things you mentioned are a lower impact way of doing so.

If you believe in the leadership behind the company, then stay on and see it through. But if you think they're wandering aimlessly, then prep your CV and get out of there.

fecak 1 day ago 0 replies      
The reduction in health care could just be a function of a salesman saying "We can save you money here" without anyone really knowing the service would be inferior until after the switch. The overall decrease is probably as you reference - when the money was more abundant, the fridge was better stocked. This isn't a unique story in that respect.

Are you disappointed in how the company is run from a business point of view, or is this about the coffee and yogurt? I doubt you joined for the food, but that and a change in health care (annoying /= reduction) are all you point to. Did they cut vacation? Salary?

Of course startups try to offer some extras to attract and retain if they pay below market, but most who stay longer term probably aren't as concerned about these things.

Ask HN: No more than 3 articles on a topic on homepage
3 points by jusben1369  1 day ago   7 comments top 6
DanBC 1 day ago 0 replies      
Visit new. Upvote interesting new submissions. Contribute to good articles. Ignore submissions that are not interesting to you. Consider flagging articles that you think do not belong on HN.

A plug in / extension / script to allow users to filter certain topics would be brilliant, I think.

Allowing mods to limit the number of topics would just cause a great deal of meta outrage. It's bad enough when people flag. It'd be awful if mods controlled the front page.

mindcrime 1 day ago 0 replies      
I do not support this. Yes, there are "surges" around particular events... but guess what? They eventually end and that topic settles in with everything else. Just give it a few days - and maybe take heart in that fact that so many HN users are so obviously passionate about certain topics.
gus_massa 1 day ago 0 replies      
This is a filtered noPRISM-version of HN: http://hnapp.com/filter/bb4abe7a00d09a35b95c6763f09c0cfb

I found it in a comment from a few days ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5846416 ). It's a bit outdated, you should add "Snowden" to the filtered words.

(hint: To read the HN comments, click on the points/comments numbers.)

EthanHeilman 1 day ago 0 replies      
I disagree, I think we can solve this problem without placing a hard limit on the number of articles on the home page. Consider:

1. That to place a limit on the number of articles on a particular topic on the homepage you must be able to group articles into topics.

2. If you can group articles into topics why not implement either: (a). a filter control which filters out topics based on user selection or (b). a second "diversity of topics" page HN which includes only the top articles on HN per topic (a log plot of HN).

krapp 1 day ago 0 replies      
A lot of users seem to feel it's an important topic which still merits discussion.

Some sort of topic filter, or a tagging system might help (or use hnapp.com or whatever third party thing is available), but putting a hard limit on something that other people want to talk about is pointless censorship.

It's a discussion forum, and this seems to resonate with the community.

devonbarrett 1 day ago 1 reply      
Quick question; do you remember when Aaron Swartz died? Pretty much every article on the homepage was about that. Would you have requested the same ruling then?

I think this is more to do with a persons engagement on the topic in question. Hacker News works by following the consensus of what the majority want to see. So I think it is working correctly.

Ask HN: How can I see top HN posts Not about NSA/PRISM?
42 points by porker  4 days ago   9 comments top 7
aaronbrethorst 4 days ago 0 replies      
Here's a Safari extension for blocking Bitcoin articles. You can easily modify it to block your keywords of choice. There's also a link in there to a similar Chrome extension.


raquo 4 days ago 2 replies      
Pardon the UI, it's one of my old projects, but it's useful in this case http://hnapp.com/filter/bb4abe7a00d09a35b95c6763f09c0cfb

If you want to edit the filter 1) change parameters, 2) click preview to see new filtered results, 3) click save to get a link to the new filter.

seiji 4 days ago 0 replies      
I've got a handy HN filter site: http://diff.biz/?remove=(nsa|prism|privacy|crunch)&only-show...

Update the removal list in the URL as necessary (or go to http://diff.biz for an old default removal list).

My site has been dead for a while (I think crawlers are crawling my site causing it to hit HN, but then HN blocks me due to over requesting), but I unblocked it today. We'll see how long it lasts.

krapp 12 hours ago 0 replies      
Question for those who would know: if I were to try to do this with javascript, how many requests could I make to the site at a time without being auto-banned?
gadders 12 hours ago 0 replies      
Good idea. This place is turning into Slashdot in the Jon Katz era.
CodeFoo 4 days ago 0 replies      
Here's a bookmarklet I wrote real quick to filter/highlight keyword-based articles:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5846934
ishener 4 days ago 0 replies      
couldn't agree more...
After Prism would anyone trust icloud keychain?
5 points by chris_dcosta  1 day ago   2 comments top
stephenr 1 day ago 1 reply      
First off - why would the NSA want your keychain?

Prism is all about getting the information directly from the service providers - no need to "steal" it using compromised user credentials.

What else would you put in this - a credit card number. Again - why would the NSA need to get your credit card number this way? Surely they can just ask the fucking bank directly and/or request info via FBI/CIA/etc. Credit Card companies already cover purchases from stolen cards/card numbers, so in the unlikely event some rogue NSA goon steals your CC number and buys a heap of tin foil hats, you're covered.

This of course all assumes that the NSA breaks the AES256 encryption on your keychain.

I really cannot understand the number of people going batshit crazy over a Crypto-Intel agency spying on people (shock fucking horror, what did you think they do all day?), but happily using search/email/document storage/etc from a for-profit company that freely states "we are going to scan all your email and track all the shit you do, so we can create a profile of your entire life, so we can target you with better ads"

Ask: Are there any planned prism protests in the Bay Area?
7 points by lukejduncan  2 days ago   discuss
Ask HN: Should someone collect BitCoin for the NSA Leaker...
7 points by piratebroadcast  2 days ago   discuss
Want to learn Vim? Use :help. The manual is one of the best tutorials
4 points by verroq  1 day ago   discuss
Ask HN: Post PRISM - Any companies considering moving their data overseas?
10 points by tamersalama  3 days ago   4 comments top 4
lawnchair_larry 2 days ago 0 replies      
To where? Anything overseas is stated as fair game for the NSA. They at least pretend to not watch American activity. Any other country will cave to US pressure if they want your data, and of the countries that don't like the US and still have a decent internet connection, they'll probably do worse spying of their own.
marquis 2 days ago 0 replies      
The main issue is latency and cost. Try browsing the internet from New Zealand or Australia for a few weeks: you really notice the difference of being another 150-200ms away from servers in the U.S. If you'd like to host in those countries directly you'll be subject to higher bandwidth costs.
jayfuerstenberg 2 days ago 0 replies      
I've always been surprised so many companies have their servers based in the USA.

Iceland seems a safer place to me from a democracy standpoint.

bifrost 3 days ago 0 replies      
I work with companies that do this pretty regularly due to other regulatory issues. The problem involves how poor data privacy laws are in other countries, in some places data is more illegal than others, and then how its accessed from the US. Sometimes you're not better off in other countries anyways.

Right now the problem is "the cloud" not the country for the US anyways...

Ask HN: What's the most effective way to protest in the wake of the NSA leaks?
11 points by nsa_throwaway  3 days ago   7 comments top 3
bifrost 3 days ago 1 reply      
Its pretty obvious we stuck it to ourselves by voting in self important bureaucrats time and time again, so changing that would be a good start.

Protests probably won't do much, hitting the sponsors of politicians would be good though. You'll note that MoveOn/etc haven't really made much noise about this so might be good to call them out as the sockpuppet that they are. I'd say protest against the taxes that pay for this kind of thing, but that seems antithetical to a lot of people...

jayfuerstenberg 3 days ago 0 replies      
Don't be so lazy about your own privacy. You are the source of most of their data from where you ate last night to what movie you're watching tomorrow. So stop doing that.

Populate the surveillance database with junk data by being unpredictable each and every day. Make it more difficult and expensive to build a profile about you.

Use TOR for your web browsing.

Make everybody aware of the issues and why they are important and get them to spread the message further.

squozzer 1 day ago 1 reply      
What would MLK or Ghandi do?
If you didn't cancel the credit card you used for linode.com, now is the time
128 points by ibudiallo  6 days ago   129 comments top 13
mbesto 6 days ago 4 replies      
Please provide a little more evidence than starting a flame war. Although it could in theory be true, it's a fairly baseless claim until you present a little more evidence.

For my online transactions I use prepaid cards that are easy to dispose of, and this card was used solely for linode.

Couldn't the online card issuer be to blame? How do we know you haven't mistakenly used it for anything else? The fact that you use prepaid cards for online purchases seems fishy to me in the first place (which is just as baseless of a claim on my part as yours is here).

groceries, cheese

How do you use a online generated CC for groceries and cheese??

From Linode:

Credit card numbers in our database are stored in encrypted format, using public and private key encryption. The private key is itself encrypted with passphrase encryption and the complex passphrase is not stored electronically. Along with the encrypted credit card, the last four digits are stored in clear text to assist in lookups and for display on things like your Account tab and payment receipt emails. We have no evidence decrypted credit card numbers were obtained.


TL;DR - This is unfair to Linode and I think the community (who uses their service quite frequently) would appreciate if you took it up with them first, before you start a smear campaign.

greenyoda 6 days ago 2 replies      
Signing up for on-line services is a good use for "virtual account numbers". This is a feature offered on some Citibank and Discover credit cards (maybe others) that allows you to generate a separate credit card number that's billed to your original account. The nice thing about them is that once a virtual account number has been billed by a vendor, it does not accept any charges in the future except from the same vendor. So if the account is compromised, the credit card number is useless to the person who steals it.
WestCoastJustin 6 days ago 1 reply      
Linode stored the encrypted credit card numbers in our [linode's] database ... we have no evidence decrypted credit card numbers were obtained. [1] To me, this implies that the attackers did indeed get the encrypted data. This would be a mighty juicy target to focus your decryption efforts on! In my mind, it was only a matter of time. Regardless of whether OP's story holds water.. get your card re-issued if this applies to you!

[1] https://blog.linode.com/2013/04/16/security-incident-update/

dkulchenko 6 days ago 1 reply      
I cancelled mine for an unrelated reason, but was about to anyway once news about the Linode compromise got out. Linode themselves have admitted that the only thing between HTP and the credit card numbers is a passphrase (of unknown quality).

I no longer have any VMs on Linode. It's unfortunate that a company I trusted behaved so oddly and non-transparently over the course of the incident.

maukdaddy 6 days ago 0 replies      
I just got an email yesterday from Amex about suspicious activity on my account. The card was used to make purchases from at least three dating sites, groupon, Microsoft, hidemyip, and a handful of others.

This card is tied to Linode, Amazon, and one or two other large merchants. Sure looks like Linode CC numbers were breached.

azinman2 6 days ago 2 replies      
To be fair, that still doesn't mean it's from linode 100%. I recently had a fraudulent charge on a Chase Freedom card that I never once used anywhere (their fine print when it arrived showed they mislead me in the rewards I was promised). I had even shredded it when I got it so its not possible someone took it from my place. When they called me about the possible fraudulent charge, they guy explained that various government/creditor databases contain these cards and sometimes malicious employees use them for fraud.
xbryanx 6 days ago 1 reply      
Bank Simple actually reached out to me and asked me if I wanted to cancel my card. I did. But I was impressed that they saw that I'd had charges from them and knew about the security issues.
richardlblair 6 days ago 0 replies      
I would also like to add that the same thing happened to me. Except it happened on May 30th.

I can't be 100% sure that my card was compromised because of linode, but there is a good chance that it was.

Thankfully the transactions were not captured, so I'm not out any money, but it still sucks.

gee_totes 6 days ago 0 replies      
OP, I'm confused how your system for paying for things online works.

If it's a prepaid card, I'm assuming that you have to load it with money. Since you're just using it for Linode, you couldn't have loaded that much money on it (unless you're paying for huge Linodes). I'm wondering how large these large amounts were and why they didn't simply empty out the amount on the prepaid card.

Besides my confusion (if I were using your system, I would load $20 or whatever onto the card each month and then the maximum I could lose if the card was stolen was $20), I would also like to point out that while prepaid cards are easy to dispose of, Credit Cards typically provide better fraud protection.

With credit cards, there is normally a $50 liability if the card is stolen and no time limits around reporting it. With debit cards, there are time limits around reporting the card being lost or stolen. With prepaid cards, they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the FDIC and consumer protections are voluntary on the part of the issuer.

cmsmith 6 days ago 4 replies      

Why do merchants really need to store CC numbers? From the consumers' standpoint, there would be no difference if, during the first transaction, the merchant is issued some alterate key with which to charge the account. Each merchant would be issued their own key, so there would be no risk of a security breach spreading outside of the merchant.

tzs 6 days ago 3 replies      
What do you mean by "cancel"? If you mean have your card issuer give you a new card with a new number, and stop allowing charges using the old number, that isn't necessarily sufficient. You may have to close your underlying account.

Visa and MasterCard both have updater services, which are available to some (but not all--I'm not sure what exactly the requirements are for access) merchants that accept their cards. The updater service allows the merchant to inquire about a particular card number and receive back a status that can be one of: no info available; card still valid; card replaced and here is the new card number and expiration date; account closed.

rosser 6 days ago 1 reply      
Anecdata to the contrary, I've seen no suspicious activity on my Linode-associated card.
maqr 6 days ago  replies      
WF opted to send me a new card out of nowhere, without explaining why they're sending me a new card. I suspect it's due to the linode breach.
Could a better communication standard ensure better data privacy?
7 points by pawn  2 days ago   4 comments top 2
mtgx 2 days ago 1 reply      
Up until now, companies offered "SSL encryption" as a security benefit for their customers. Now that benefit is wiped out, and can't be used anymore. It's just not enough anymore.

So they'll need to start offering encryption solutions as benefits that we know can't be accessed or even cracked by the NSA - OTR, ZRTP, PGP and so on.

bifrost 2 days ago 0 replies      
Its a little easier than that, but frankly the way data is stored now is the problem. Currently people just kind of "trust" that their service providers aren't looking, and now we know that the NSA is looking. But, the NSA has been looking at traffic since the 90s with Eschelon and Carnivore, so this isn't really new information.
How to find the Rootkit that was used in the Hetzner hack
11 points by moepstar  3 days ago   2 comments top 2
atesti 3 days ago 0 replies      
I had to use "-f2" instead of "-f1" because "ps ax" showed " 3156 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd" with a leading space character, probably because by chance my sshd PID was below 10000 and therefore indented
stevekemp 3 days ago 0 replies      
How about this, which is much simpler:

    gdb --pid=$(cat /var/run/sshd.pid)

Ask HN: Disruptive crypto tools: Develop with true names, or "go Satoshi"?
9 points by not_satoshi  3 days ago   10 comments top 7
tptacek 3 days ago 0 replies      
Lots of people build cryptographic tools that are much more dangerous to the surveillance state than "Cryptocat". Have we heard a lot of stories about the GPGMail developers being detained? What about the Truecrypt team? Are we just accepting on faith the idea that building crypto tools will get you harassed?
ippisl 3 days ago 0 replies      
Regarding using true name for credentials: For now use pseudonym , if at later point in time you need to prove yourself, you could expose your name to a limited group of people which you think are appropriate.
jayfuerstenberg 3 days ago 0 replies      
Go pseudo. For the same reason you'd develop the software in the first place, so people can operate in private.

But open source your work so if you make mistakes the ideas you have can be improved upon by others.

noerps 3 days ago 1 reply      
Since you are doing crypto, chances are high you are doing it wrong the first approaches.

Considering this, my choice would be to start with a believable pseudonym and generate a gpg- and/or rsa-key to sign stuff and tie it to that psudonym.

If something goes wrong you simply revoke and nothing happend. For the rare occasion of success you can still prove your are that person.

waterphone 3 days ago 0 replies      
Go pseudonym, for the reasons you listed. The U.S. government has a habit of harassing people doing legal things that they don't like, especially regarding cryptography and the like.
dear 3 days ago 0 replies      
What about an encrypted form of your true name?
LoganCale 3 days ago 1 reply      
not_satoshi and waterphone: You both appear to be hellbanned.
Ask HN: browser extension to encrypt emails in gmail client-side
6 points by rheide  2 days ago   9 comments top 4
runn1ng 2 days ago 0 replies      
I know one that is easy to use, secure and working (because I very slighty helped with the development).


It is more secure than you would think - see


it prevents from saving the drafts well. What is not yet iplemented are signatures

daenney 2 days ago 1 reply      
WebPG or Cr-gpg perhaps can handle the GPG part probably.

I'm not so sure about the not saving Drafts, that would require rewriting some bits of Javascript which might break other stuff.

As for key exchange, that shouldn't be handle by an extension. If you want to encrypt your e-mail so the other party can read it, encrypt it with their public key, which by definition is public and can be uploaded to a keyserver.

switch33 2 days ago 0 replies      
bifrost 2 days ago 1 reply      
You'd be better off using a non-gmail service with this sort of privacy requirement anticipated.Gmail is a pretty uninspiring service to use fully encrypted.
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