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Ask PG: Fix the broken flagging system? Surface article just got flagged off FP
58 points by cooldeal  17 hours ago   23 comments top 7
recoiledsnake 17 hours ago 1 reply      
Eh, it's nothing new with the fanboys here who form a defacto "Bury Brigade", if you remember that term on Digg where articles just used to die a sudden death.

They're just waiting for the inevitable Gruber's, Marco's or Siegler's deprecating takes and hit pieces on the Surface Pro pricing. Those will stay on the front page for days. This typically happens with any important MS related announcements or launches.

A good start would be to make it a bit transparent by actually showing the number of flags. I sometimes also wonder if it's the shareholders of competitor companies or some of their employees doing the flagging.

JoeCortopassi 16 hours ago 1 reply      
iOS developer here, see the same thing with any article writing positively about an Apple product
cooldeal 17 hours ago 1 reply      
Clickable link: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4848998

HN Rankings graph showing the sudden plunge. http://hnrankings.info/4848998/

NZ_Matt 10 hours ago 1 reply      
Exactly the same thing happened just a few days ago on the article about Windows 8 reaching 40million sales. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4839972
GHFigs 15 hours ago 1 reply      
What does "flagged off" mean? Where are you seeing the number of flags, and how are you concluding that flagging causes something to fall off the front page any faster than normal? AFAIK the front-page sorting has always been counter-intuitive.

You (and recoiledsnake) seem to make the exact same accusations on a very regular basis, but I'm not clear on how you're arriving at them.

brudgers 12 hours ago 1 reply      
In fairness, Microsoft's announcement is competing with the actual sighting of a Linux laptop on Dell's website.
JuDue 12 hours ago 1 reply      
Stop acting like you need special treatment because you're some kind of starved minority.

Windows has ABSOLUTELY dominated the world (in numbers, at least) for over two decades and is still #1. What's your problem? Not enough attention? Not getting enough hipster love for your c0rp0r4t10n?

There are 2 stories about Windows and one about Microsoft on the homepage. Boo hoo?

Ask HN: Resources for advanced JS?
8 points by ahulak  12 hours ago   2 comments top 2
recurser 11 hours ago 0 replies      
'JavaScript: The Good Parts' by Douglas Crockford is a great place to start[1].

    This authoritative book scrapes away these bad features
to reveal a subset of JavaScript that's more reliable,
readable, and maintainable than the language as a
whole-a subset you can use to create truly extensible
and efficient code.

The other thing that has had a huge impact on my coding style is learning to write tests for everything with Jasmine[2]. Forcing myself to write tests has basically forced me into better design practices, since it's nigh-on impossible to test javascript callback-spaghetti.

Doing a couple of backbone.js[3] tutorials may be a bit of an eye-opener too.

[1] http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596517748.do

[2] http://pivotal.github.com/jasmine/

[3] http://backbonejs.org/

tgriesser 10 hours ago 0 replies      
As recurser mentioned, backbone.js tutorials might be a good idea. I'd also recommend reading the source of backbone.js to see how it works internally. It's around 1500 lines of well written and fully commented javascript, and will probably cover everything you're hoping to learn in a very concise and practical way.
Ask HN: Laptop for Linux Software Development
14 points by ishbits  16 hours ago   19 comments top 9
staunch 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I've ran Linux on probably 15 different Dell laptops over the past 10 years. My current is a Precision M6500. It has a 15" LCD at 1920x1200. Probably something like that available now.

I don't really use it mobile very often, but everything works well enough. I always get a discrete Nvidia video card and use their proprietary driver.

rogerbinns 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Other than some Macs, the screens all suck. I am fond of Lenovo other than the screen resolution - matte is important to me. I swapped my 2007 vintage T61 for a T430s. Everything works fine out of the box. I did replace the DVD drive with another battery since this model doesn't have the stick out batteries like other models do.

The specs are a dual core/quad threaded i7-3520M, 16GB of RAM, 500GB 7200rpm spinning disk and a 250GB mSata SSD stick. I got the version with a Thunderbolt port although I haven't tried using it. IIRC you have to get the i7 and no Nvidia to get Thunderbolt. Memory, drives and msata are cheaper anywhere other than Lenovo.

For Lenovo stuff I highly recommend the forums at notebookreview.com.

csense 15 hours ago 2 replies      
I've had positive personal experiences and anecdotes from others about the Intel Core i7.

I haven't seen a laptop that's expandable to 16GB. But I also don't usually look higher than the middle of the market when I'm laptop shopping, so you may be able to find one if you're willing to pay a paying premium price for it.

Don't be afraid of a machine with a too-small hard drive or memory. Upgrades for both are cheap. CPU, GPU, and monitor, on the other hand, are usually difficult or impossible to upgrade in a laptop.

If you don't have a specific use for a graphics card, consider going with a machine which only has integrated graphics. It will save you a lot.

duncan_bayne 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm running a Lenovo L520, i7, 16GiB RAM, SSD and it flies along. Linux Mint (& Ubuntu) work out of the box, and it has a fantastic keyboard and matte screen.

My only gripe is that there's no USB 3.

diminish 16 hours ago 1 reply      
I am using a 17" Sony Vaio Z series with and SSD and 1920x1080 screen for a long time. Quite happy with everything. Sony laptops work better than expected with Linux, though this is by chance rather than Sony's support. Next I ll check one of the ultrabooks and Dell XPS Sputnik
eshvk 16 hours ago 1 reply      
You could get a 13 or 15" Macbook Pro (Not retina) and install Linux on it. (I use OSX with Macports which is fine for my needs but the fresh install of Linux is still an option). I really like the Apple Hardware although I am becoming gradually less enthusiastic about their attempts to make OSX more like iOS.
nickv 15 hours ago 0 replies      
I know this is a weird suggestion, but the best combo for me is a Macbook (air or pro) with Parallels running a Linux VM full screen.

Performance is shockingly good, you don't have to worry about drivers, and you still get access to a bunch of nice OSX things inside the VM (Retina res, keyboard shortcuts for volume, Mountain Lion's speech dictation, etc)

Plus, you get that sweet sweet Apple build quality.

seslattery 15 hours ago 1 reply      
I would personally recommend a Samsung Series 7 15.6" laptop. It has a super thin bezel around the screen so it form factor is more like a 14" laptop. It is less than an inch thick, and is very portable. Mine has an 17-2675QM quad core in it, and it is expandable to 12gigs of ram(4 gigs is soldered on the motherboard). It also has a radeon 6750m in it. But most importantly, it has a 1600x900 MATTE display. I run only ubuntu 12.10 on it, and it does take some configuration out of the box to get set up right, but a quick google search is all it took. Few minor things don't work on mine, but overall I am extremely happy with it.
pluxdotse 15 hours ago 1 reply      
Show HN: Churches + The Internet
9 points by glennericksen  15 hours ago   6 comments top 3
bbissoon 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Very nice work. I'm Christian and when moving to a new neighborhood, it's common for the first thing after settling down is to find a nearby church. Great work.
user24 15 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm an atheist, but have an upvote for innovating in a sparse niche.

Also, Clickable: http://www.FaithStreet.com/

jkaykin 14 hours ago 1 reply      
Although I am not extremely religious, I still think it's a great idea. Why though are you focusing only on Churches? There are synagogues, mosques, buddhist temples, etc. You have the potential to be the google for finding any religious place.

Also how are you sustaining? Are you charging churches anything to list themselves? They don't pay taxes, so you might as well charge them for something...

Ask HN: What's the most annoying 16 digit password to manually type?
6 points by Uncreative  15 hours ago   6 comments top 6
mchannon 14 hours ago 0 replies      
How passive-aggressive! I love it! (I think it'll bite you though).

You want to optimize for highest finger replacement, ensuring that hands must change positions as many times as possible. Requiring shift-number row and then alternating in letter "z" would require a lot of that. Similarly, letters y g b and h are out of most people's home row, and requiring them to be capitalized would require the use of both hands.

Depending on the disposition of the individual a political, religious, or misspelled phrase (or multiple of these) could further inflame the password. Something like "their isa godd".

I hope this person deserves this.

blake8086 14 hours ago 0 replies      
wildranter 15 hours ago 0 replies      
The one you can't remember.

Edit: I'll give it a shot... Uräñuśš1ŠaĀń...šŚ;) || UräñuśšŠt1ñkśß@D

staunch 14 hours ago 0 replies      
jkaykin 15 hours ago 0 replies      
matt_ 15 hours ago 0 replies      
can you use alt codes?
Ask HN: Do you explicitly follow TechCrunch anymore?
2 points by aravindc  6 hours ago   discuss
Only 1 Day left for Github game off
2 points by binarydreams  7 hours ago   discuss
Ask HN: First time doing a hackathon, any advice?
5 points by jacalulu  12 hours ago   8 comments top 5
ohashi 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Focus. Focus. Focus. Too many times people want to accomplish too many things. Do one thing. Make sure it does that one thing. Make sure that one thing can be presented well. If you can accomplish more, AWESOME. If not, you still have something deliverable. The worst feeling is being an hour or two away from the end without anything working and a lot of little half-functional pieces.
kenfromm 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Work on the stuff that shows things visually before you work on other behind the scenes parts. Try to get it to show it doing a number of things asynchronously. (A screen that populates a number of actions or data points is going to win out over a single action step-by-step demo.)

Have a screen or two that's nicely designed and laid out. Good graphics, buttons, icons.

Work on your presentation. Many hackathons are beauty contests where a tight presentation and good look will win out over serious stuff under the hood. Have a simple imaginative funny description of what it does. (Funny apps tend to win out over more serious apps.)

Build an app that can get the audience involved. "Everyone take out your cell phone and text ..." "Go to this link and sign in with your twitter credentials." "Take a picture of the person next to your and send it via email to this address."

Do something that makes use of existing data or data that can easily be gathered from users when they sign up.

voltagex_ 12 hours ago 1 reply      
Sleep. Seriously. Don't pull an all-nighter unless you really really have to.

Focus on a basic, fully working product rather than an ambitious semi-finished thing.

confusedsquirel 12 hours ago 1 reply      
So pick something simple; say a log in page, a content page, and maybe an admin screen. Something that would take about a day by yourself. Then make it with your three friends. Take the time to plan out who does what and learn to work together.
This simple task can save you hours of planning on the day of.

EDIT: I mean for you to do this task before the hackathon.

duiker101 12 hours ago 1 reply      
Have fun.
Heroku down?
3 points by technotony  11 hours ago   1 comment top
fjarlq 11 hours ago 0 replies      
My Amazon EC2 system just went down as well. It's in N.Virginia.

Can't load these pages either...wow:



edit: 30 seconds after I posted this, everything came back.

Show HN: SocialCla.us - Secret Santa groups with Friends
5 points by patrickod  16 hours ago   2 comments top
hansy 14 hours ago 1 reply      
I guess my only feedback would be to provide a little bit more information on how Secret Santa works through an online medium.

Oh and "Copyleft" in the footer made me chuckle.

Ask HN: How do you prepare for HN traffic?
8 points by pc86  21 hours ago   3 comments top 3
itsprofitbaron 20 hours ago 0 replies      
In order to "prepare" for a burst in traffic then you should just adopt a simple scaling strategy:

- If you can serve content static, serve it static.
(For example, if you are running a Wordpress site, then there are several Wordpress plugins which make this even easier)

- Use a CDN to offload your static media.
I'd recommend using CloudFlare OR even copying your CSS, Images & Javascript to S3 & changing their respective references to their new location.

- Any dyamic content should rely heavily on caching.

invalidka 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Easiest and cheapest thing that comes to mind: sign up for a free Cloudflare account. They will cache your static content and actually speed up the load times of your pages. For $20/mo you get a few more cooler features and SSL if you need it.

If it sounds like I'm trying to sell them, I am. :) I have it on several of my sites, and it works great for me!

ishener 14 hours ago 0 replies      
do load testing?
iTunes 11 is out
2 points by hboon  10 hours ago   5 comments top 3
pairing 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm not having any performance issues, and I really like the new look. It feels less cluttered and the album view with the colored background is visually appealing with a few exceptions where the color doesn't work as a background.

I also really enjoy the placement of the play next button which is something I've already used several times. Overall, I'm very happy with the upgrade.

eclipticplane 9 hours ago 0 replies      
> It's a real CPU hogger.

It's not a CPU hogger; it's a studio apartment space heater.

sixQuarks 10 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm still using iTunes 8. I stopped trusting the updates after it messed up my files one time.
Ask HN: Are you alone in San Francisco on Thanksgiving?
467 points by MediaSquirrel  7 days ago   94 comments top 53
MediaSquirrel 7 days ago 2 replies      
Amazed by the turnout. What an awesome thanksgiving!


kloncks 7 days ago 1 reply      
This is beautiful and shows one of the coolest parts of a great community like Silicon Valley. Thanks for giving back, Matt.

I sincerely hope all of you have a great Thanksgiving!

blhack 7 days ago 1 reply      
It's only a 12 hour drive from Phoenix! I can make it!

(I'm kidding, that would put me in SF around 1:00am -- hanging out in the hackerspace with my girlfriend making stuff instead :) )

rgrieselhuber 7 days ago 0 replies      
Matt is one of the coolest people in the Bay Area and it is definitely worth spending the day with him if you're on your own today.
malandrew 7 days ago 0 replies      
Bummer. I kind of wish I hadn't agree to go to my gf's family's house. I would rather be nerding out.
louwhopley 7 days ago 0 replies      
I'm not in America, but would really like to know how many people actually asked to join you?

Happy Thanksgiving!

sixQuarks 7 days ago 2 replies      
Very nice of you! on a related note, I'm curious. SwigMe.com seems very interesting, but I would think there are a lot of legal loopholes you need to jump through, no? What happens when teenagers try to order and present a good fake ID at the door?
mladenkovacevic 7 days ago 0 replies      
Happy thanksgiving to you Yanks from the south. What I find cool is that you say you started your entrepreneurial jaunt at 29. I'm 30 and just taking step 0.23 in my self-employment scheme but I often feel like I'm maybe too old to be trying out for this particular team. It's encouraging that it seems it's never too late to just try building something. So thanks for that :)
bravura 7 days ago 0 replies      
Well done, Matt.

We haven't hung out in a while. Let's get together when I come to SF in January.

vlokshin 7 days ago 0 replies      
This is awesome. Kudos to you for posting, Matt.

I just moved to the city (it'll be 1 month tomorrow), but luckily I had great friends waiting for me who I'll be enjoying the evening with.

But the awesomeness of this post almost makes me want to join you regardless haha

zensavona 7 days ago 0 replies      
This is truly awesome, it's so nice to see that (although there is at times bickering) the HN community still is alive at heart.
hakaaak 7 days ago 0 replies      
Way to go! Good turnout, too!

It makes me sad that all the HN stuff typically appears to revolve around SF and SV area, though. I feel left out. I think the problem is that PG and YC are on that side of the world, and the rest of us get screwed. I'd like to see a map of IPs geoplotted for the last hour, last day, last week, month, year, all time for those hitting HN, those commenting, those with the most karma points, etc. I'd like to feel like it isn't all west coast U.S., NYC, and India.

chrisyeh 7 days ago 1 reply      
Matt is a mensch! Great to see you're continuing to fly the entrepreneurial flag.
shanelja 7 days ago 1 reply      
It's a shame this isn't the UK - I'm going to be alone for christmas this year and it would have been cool to spend it with like minded, kind people such as yourself and Gautam.
dmor 7 days ago 0 replies      
Awww Matt, happy thanksgiving - hope get to celebrate with you sometime!
macey 7 days ago 0 replies      
Awesome! That's really cool, Matt. Cheers to helping everyone get a little higher on Maslow's pyramid today.

On that note... Here's a link to donate to the SF food bank's holiday food drive.

Happy Thanksgiving all!

maxwin 7 days ago 0 replies      
I am alone but not in SF. It is really nice of you. You are truly having a great Thanksgiving day.
axyjo 7 days ago 1 reply      
I'm in Santa Clara, (so I won't be able to come up) but I'd like to help out. Any way I can chip in to the meal?
acoyfellow 7 days ago 0 replies      
You are awesome. Cheers from Pennsylvania!
onedev 7 days ago 0 replies      
Thank you so much for being an awesome human being. People like you are my motivation.
joshaidan 7 days ago 0 replies      
Let us know how many people show up!
simonebrunozzi 7 days ago 0 replies      
You're so nice Matt. Big hugs to you!

Sometimes I see random acts of kindness (like yours), and they still surprise me.

I bet every one of us did a few, and received a few.

sown 7 days ago 1 reply      
Too bad it takes caltrain 1.5 hours to get up there from SJ. oh well. Thanksfor the offer and happy thanksgiving
richo 7 days ago 0 replies      
This is such an outrageously awesome thing that you have done.


SiVal 7 days ago 0 replies      
One more thing to give thanks for is people like you, Matt.
jeremy_k 6 days ago 0 replies      
This was an awesome event! Just wanted to give a shutout to Matt for hosting all of us. It was great to meet tons of people from around the world who were all in the same position. It really made my day to know this community supports each other so much.
leemor13 7 days ago 1 reply      
Would take you up if I were down there! All the way up in Vancouver, BC but I'll take a raincheck :).
codex_irl 7 days ago 2 replies      
An especially happy Thanksgiving to anyone here from out of town or away from friends & family!
dcope 7 days ago 0 replies      
This doesn't apply to me but this is absolutely fantastic. It's great to see people with kind souls doing nice things.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Credit_Swarm 7 days ago 0 replies      
That is super cool. Matt Mireles you have a big heart. You just earned a new customer for Swig
jeduan 7 days ago 0 replies      
This is beautiful.

I had a short gig in SF earlier this year and finding this kindness would have definitely helped me make my stay there a more enjoyable experience.

Abrazos from Mexico City.

jmedwards 7 days ago 0 replies      
This is just plain nice. It's not often you get to say than on HN :)
flyingFlyer 7 days ago 0 replies      
Hope someday, when I visit Silicon Valley, you would host Thanksgiving too. Would love to join you then.

For Now, Happy Thanksgiving from Nepal :)

anandkulkarni 7 days ago 0 replies      
Classy move, Matt! Happy Thanksgiving.
freshbrewedmike 7 days ago 0 replies      
Hey Matt-

I just shot you an email- I'm staying near Height and Clayton, and this is my first Thanksgiving alone- How far is it to North Beach ?

betadreamer 7 days ago 0 replies      
Wow how nice of you. This is why I like HN especially after being pushed around in Walmart :P I would've ping if I was around SF.
schrodinger 7 days ago 0 replies      
You've gotta bring swig me to NYC! I'd use it!
mistrQ 7 days ago 0 replies      
Wow! I wish I was in SF. Hopefully someone as friendly as you will be doing this in London (UK) next year.
gabriels 7 days ago 0 replies      
Matt, thanks for the invite! Although I wasn't there this is really heartwarming :)
hjay 7 days ago 0 replies      
That's very nice of you, Matt. Wish I was near San Fran!
Have a great time nevertheless.
Xorlev 7 days ago 0 replies      
This is incredible. Great thing you're doing! How about that hospitality. :)
cicloid 7 days ago 0 replies      
This is by far a great gesture!

Kudos Matt!

imran 7 days ago 0 replies      
Although im not in san fransisco this post alone made my day!
mailshanx 7 days ago 0 replies      
An awesome gesture. Happy thanksgiving from Singapore!:)
jmd_akbar 7 days ago 0 replies      
I think it's people like you who give me hope about the future of humanity! :)

Thanks and Happy thanksgiving.

PS: I would totally drop by, if i wasn't living about 8000miles away! :D

prohan 7 days ago 1 reply      
Don't be lazzy make a language like Guido did
inspiredworlds 7 days ago 0 replies      
awesome idea! wish i could have made it (even though i'm in another part of the world)
arschles 7 days ago 0 replies      
Great gesture dude. Thanks for giving back.
viraj_shah 7 days ago 0 replies      
Super cool man. Have a great holiday!
messel 7 days ago 0 replies      
good show Matt, way to celebrate the holiday
Jngai1297 7 days ago 0 replies      
If only I am in San Francisco..... Have a great thanksgiving!
isacult 6 days ago 0 replies      
This is amazing. Kudos to you kind sir.
Goranek 7 days ago 0 replies      
nice marketing..but still remarkable offer
one big PLUS
How to find content creators for a mobile app pre-launch?
3 points by datemapps  15 hours ago   2 comments top 2
datemapps 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey everybody, I'm working on pre-populating content for my mobile app, DateMapps. The app is user dependent and is worthless without user-generated content. I don't want to and won't release the app until the app has enough valuable content that other users will be able to benefit from. What are some ways to obtain such content. My ideas so far was to (1) reach out to my landing page email list and ask them to help out with this task (2) Ask beta testers to help with creating original content when testing the mobile app (3) Create a meetup group and get the members to assist with creating the content.

What are your thoughts on these strategies? If you have any other suggestions, comments, or recommendations, gladly bring them my way. Thanks guys.

Founder DateMapps

powatom 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Well, you can either pay people, or do it yourself.

Big data is big business these days. If you can find free data on the scale you need, it wouldn't be a business at all.

Ask HN: When your friends ask "can you build me a website?"
9 points by dazbradbury  18 hours ago   9 comments top 9
mnicole 16 hours ago 0 replies      
http://www.squarespace.com/ and http://www.virb.com/ are going to have the best looking pre-defined templates. If this person is wanting something for a portfolio, http://www.cargocollective.com/ has some good stuff.

http://salon.io/ from a ShowHN yesterday is also in this realm. The landing page says it's for images/portfolios but their inline editor lets you do pretty much whatever.

joonix 14 hours ago 0 replies      
If they're looking for a more content heavy site rather than just a "face" for their B&M business, I'd point them to Wordpress, ideally hosting their own, but Wordpress.com offers hosted sites. The interface is easy to figure out and there's a ton of themes and plugins out there, as well as tutorials.
alphast0rm 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm surprised no one has mentioned YC-backed Weebly, which solves this exact problem:


dylanhassinger 17 hours ago 0 replies      
The competition is fierce, check out Smore.com and Onepagerapp.com. Also WordPress.com can be used for more specialized sites now, see WordPress.com/restaurants for example.

But if you can do better than that (or find a niche that is not being served), go for it!

plebu 13 hours ago 0 replies      
My startup, Plebu.com, is a website builder with less features. You can customize the design, add text pages, galleries, and a contact page. That's it. The sites you build are mobile friendly. Please let me know what you think.
tzaman 17 hours ago 0 replies      
There you have it, an excellent idea for a startup! Nothing drastically "disruptive" but a viable business nonetheless :)

Regarding the service, I have yet to find one like this myself.

creativeone 1 hour ago 0 replies      
jamesjguthrie 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Agree with the others that this could be a great idea for a startup!

At the moment I just recommend setting up a WordPress site, it's pretty straight forward and can look good if themed properly etc.

evv 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Check out squarespace, they probably fit the bill.
Ask HN: would anyone be interested in a better Sparrow for mac?
4 points by waseemsadiq  18 hours ago   5 comments top 3
hansy 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I still use Sparrow and I love it. If you can create something simple, intuitive, and minimalist then I'd be interested to hear more.
pjnewton 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I still use Sparrow as well and love it. So yes, if a similar solution was created and supported then I'd be all over it. Especially if it had support for Rapportive! :)
tedmiston 17 hours ago 1 reply      
What would you do better than Sparrow?
Ask HN: What's the Catch - CheapSSLs looks like the real deal. Really?
6 points by ghshephard  1 day ago   7 comments top 6
relix 1 day ago 0 replies      
They're actually (much) more expensive than Namecheap, a generally trusted vendor: http://www.namecheap.com/ssl-certificates.aspx
ghshephard 1 day ago 1 reply      
They compare all of their certs here: http://www.cheapssls.com/index.php?dispatch=compare.type

Comodo, Geotrust, and Verisign. I'm still curious as to what the catch is.

[Edit: Okay - interesting. They provide "Low Assurance" Certs for cheap, and only Verify that you have control over the Domain. This is the first time I've ever been aware that Certs do anything BUT verify you own the domain. I"m guessing less than 0.1% of people verify more than that using their browser, so, in effect, it's the only purpose of a Cert]

jaylynch 1 day ago 0 replies      
We use them at my day job, their support can be a bit clunky in terms of turnaround times once you've escalated something tricky but they're generally quite helpful and certainly legit - we have a mix of EV and regular with I think 1 wildcard and have never had any particularly serious issues other than slow EV paperwork.
DonPellegrino 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I bought a certificate from them a few weeks ago, it was delivered to my email in just a few minutes. No problems whatsoever.
ianpeterson 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I don't about them but i bought mine from RapidSSLonline.com a Platinum Certificate Authority of Leading SSL brands such as GeoTrust, Thawte, Symantec, and RapidSSL. They offer me Free SSL certificate for one moth trial and after trial period i bought my SSL certificate for as low as price with heavy discounted coupon code from them. Try them!
ishbits 10 hours ago 0 replies      
What about SmartSSL. Free.
Thank You HN: From 30 people whose lives you saved
364 points by chaseadam17  8 days ago   discuss
dos1 8 days ago 1 reply      
Holy shit. I can't remember a time when a website had an immediate impact on me like this. I mean, literally 5 seconds after landing on the site I got what they were trying to do and couldn't click the fund button fast enough. Such a simple idea but maybe that's what makes it so damn brilliant. So cool.

Edit: When I first went to the site 15 minutes ago there were two profiles of people in need of medical care. The total outstanding balance for both treatments was around $650 USD. In just 15 short minutes both treatments have been fully funded according to my inbox. That's just phenomenal, and I bet this story on HN has a lot to do with that!

justjimmy 8 days ago 0 replies      
Your open Google doc is what persuaded me. I've always felt uncomfortable donating to charities - knowing well that my money may never go towards the cause they're touting, but on TV ads, expense accounts, PR Campaigns etc. While some argue it's operation costs but it's just not transparent enough.

Your easy to access and understand table really lifts the veil, as well as your clear separation of Donations going to the patients vs. Donations to the operating costs. I think people are definitely more willing to open their wallets knowing that 100% of the money go towards directly helping the patient.

Definitely suggest setting up a recurring payment option - while some people would love to help out continuously, they may not have the time to read each case (and then having to decide who to help) and come back once in a while(paradox of choice) - just take $100 bucks each month out of my account and let me know how that $100 was spent. Also give the option of deciding a % of the donation go towards operation and a % go towards the patient (like a slider style) so people don't have to feel compelled and work to donate in 2 flows.

And knowing that you guys may have a challenge of getting operation donations, offset it by giving us easy to add social widgets or just a simple graphic to add to our blogs and sites. I have no problem showing it next to my Dribbble and LinkedIn icons knowing that you guys have a really tight budget and may not have PR money. (I think free social advertising works better than those in your face PETA campaigns anyway. Makes us feel like we're directly helping out by displaying it on our sites :D)

ashray 8 days ago 0 replies      
Oh my god! I missed this for a while but .. wait a minute. You're saying that I can find $580 and help save this kid Cesar ?!

Or Alan even ?!

This is absolutely FANTASTIC!! I'm really curious as to how you carry out on the ground execution (getting the money to the family, carrying out the needed medical procedures, etc.) and stuff but I absolutely love the idea. Amazing work guys!

EDIT: Just donated $25 :) Oh yeah, just noticed this. If I click on "Tweet" on the site, the pre-filled tweet says "via @sharethis". You might want to change that to say "via @watsi_org" so that you know when someone shares your stuff =)

EDIT2: Just voted for you at the huffington post thing. Looks like it's close! 51-48 so far :O

EDIT3: GOOD GOING HACKERNEWS :D I just checked the site and:

There are 0 people on Watsi that need your help!

AWESOME!!! (http://watsi.org/fund-treatments)

streeter 8 days ago 1 reply      
I've been following Watsi for a while, and it's great to the continued success. They're currently tied for first in a HuffPo competition to win $10k which would help them reach even more people in need of medical aid. If you want to help them out, you can vote in 10 seconds for them here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/millennial-impact-c...
forgingahead 8 days ago 0 replies      
Clickable to Watsi: http://watsi.org/

Clickable to original thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4424081

sherjilozair 8 days ago 0 replies      
Great work Adam, and the Watsi team!

However, its the time to scale up higher. I came to the website and saw that there were no patients to help. Surely this means that the scouting team should be enlarged. Tie-ups with other NGOs would help, who can provide you details about patients who need help.

Here in India, there is a very reputed hospital called AIIMS, who have subsidized treatment, but still ask for some nominal payment. Also, patients have to buy medicines on their own. Watsi could be a great help to these patients, since the amount of money they require is only nominal, and many times, these patients can't even afford that. Some of these medications would cost as little as $20/month. Partnering up with such institutions would get you a credible list of people needing help, and this list is perfectly aligned to the 'low-cost, high-impact' patients you aim at.

I'm willing to help you with operations in India, if you are willing to expand.

Keep up the great work!

noonespecial 8 days ago 1 reply      
I can't help feeling that there's some of the ingredients needed to create an entirely new form of health insurance in here.

I'm ridiculously glad its working as well as it is. Its like watching the start of an avalanche. You don't really know what exactly is going to happen, but the ground is rumbling and you're sure its going to be huge and exciting.

mtrimpe 8 days ago 0 replies      
Congrats on the great work! Just a quick question; have you considered making a WordPress plugin to display today's top causes?

I worked on a project similar to that for Oxfam Novib (Blogsfam) which didn't make it due to organizational friction but won several awards nonetheless.

It might be an interesting addition to your platform...

clicks 8 days ago 0 replies      
Wow, this is so, so awesome. You made the right choice to quit your job for this. :)

I am really really looking forward to see this become big. Kudos to you for building this thing. I should also note that you've made a beautiful site as well, I can't find any faults in it by any aspect. I wish you much success.

jacquesm 8 days ago 0 replies      
Every now and the something comes along that is a real game changer. The internet was such a thing and it in turn engendered with web, which gave us WikiPedia, the Khan Academy and now this. What a super concept!

I hope you guys will be able to avoid the various pitfalls and traps that other charities seem to fall in to (where it becomes more about them than about those they help), by the looks of it you will be in excellent shape in that department.

Edit: you've covered this in the faq, but you may want to make it more plain, your donations are tax deductible, you might want to emphasize that. Especially for corporations that's a big thing, and it could get you corporate sponsors willing to name you. I know you're peer-to-peer but don't underestimate corporate dollars and riding their PR machine for free.

toomuchtodo 8 days ago 0 replies      
Do you have a way yet to charge on a recurring basis? #shutUpTakeMyCreditCardAndChargeItMonthly
ars 8 days ago 3 replies      
Since everything is fully funded you should give people the option of funding in advance.

Be open about it of course, and send them an email as soon as you know who the money is going to.

Also give people the option of getting an email when there is someone in need. (To avoid annoying people perhaps limit the email to the next 3 people, then stop sending them for a user specified time.)

nodata 8 days ago 1 reply      
Your website is excellent, I've helped five people so far.

Just two suggestions:

1. Please give me a way to view who I have helped. A followup story would be great too.

2. Please give me a way to find out about new people

kainteriors 8 days ago 0 replies      
This is a wonderful idea being executed completely by volunteers. It can be a game changer for those in impoverished countries. You can help out even more by voting in the Huffington Post IgniteGood contest. Watsi has a 50% chance of winning $10,000.00. Please vote for them so they can continue doing this amazing work. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/millennial-impact-c...
rdl 8 days ago 0 replies      
Wow, that's a pretty great site.

You should make it easier for people to give bigger gifts -- to do so people need your tax ID and address info, so they can set you as beneficiary for 401ks (if you die before collecting), etc. And most people don't know anything about this, so maybe a 1-pg on "how to save 10 lives for free*" or something.

Also, a lot of people donate specifically before the end of the (tax) year, so a focused campaign in December would make a lot of sense.

If you possibly can, get reviewed by Givewell.

yesimahuman 8 days ago 0 replies      
Great work guys. I agree with the other comments, I just felt something powerful as soon as I hit the landing page, and just had to donate (and I don't do that much).

It's amazing that just 10 minutes ago Cesar needed $500 and now he's fully funded. Keep up the awesome work!

thomasilk 8 days ago 0 replies      
It literally takes half a second to get what the site does and how to help. Brilliant.

I'd put the mailing list or something similar more prominently above the fold, because more people would regularly return if they'd get a weekly or monthly email with success stories and new profiles/stories that still need funding.

F.e. currently every project is fully funded and I almost fear forgetting about the site.

Anyway great project if you need someone to help with some marketing ideas or anything else from time to time (of course for free), send me a mail (me[at]ilkthomas[dot]com). I'd love to help.

HyprMusic 8 days ago 0 replies      
This is such a brilliant idea, and looking at the site now everyone is fully funded. And major kudos for taking the risk of quitting your day job to head such a great non-profit. If you ever need any extra dev hands, I'll happily help any way I can.
farmdawgnation 8 days ago 1 reply      
I just tried to access the site and got a Heroku error page. Looks like you guys are under some significant load? This is an excellent idea.

I'm left to wonder how well this idea would transplant to a country like the United States. Everyone has varying degrees on Obama's healthcare act depending on where you fall on the political spectrum - but wouldn't it make the entire conversation moot if the private sector were able to fund stuff like this?

What about directly funding and putting a face to the efforts of someone who is homeless finding a job? Plenty of people give to organizations like Goodwill and United Way, but you very rarely get to have a picture put with where your dollars are going. There would be a lot of details to work out, and the idea is certainly ambitious - but if Watsi is able to succeed this much then hey, someone should give it a shot.

So much good is happening here. You guys are brilliant, and I'm thankful for people like you. Cheers.

andreyf 8 days ago 0 replies      
Well done! Support for Google Checkout and Amazon Payments will help a lot, I think.
adrianwaj 3 days ago 0 replies      
The problem would be verifying that the people are real, they have the claimed illnesses, they get the claimed treatment, it's the right treatment, they ask for the right amount, have the claimed outcomes and checking where remaining money goes.
ryanteo 5 days ago 0 replies      
If there are any plans to expand to Asia, I would be happy to bounce ideas. I think this is a fantastic idea. I have been involved in healthcare startups (co-founded one) for the last 2 years in Singapore, so this is extremely interesting to me.
keeptrying 8 days ago 0 replies      
You guys rock man!

I would love to meet you guys if you are in SF. This is the kind of deep impact stuff that I want to be doing or at least sponsoring.

brackin 8 days ago 0 replies      
Congrats, this is really awesome. We're building a crowd-funding site in the charity space. Where one can fund a project directly and relieve updates on project progress. So that your money is going directly to help.
vimarshk 8 days ago 0 replies      
I am a student at USC. I could not do much on the financial side of it but I sure did spread the word on Twitter and other channels. I e-mailed them about the awesome work they were doing and told them that I would help them from the technology side if they required me. Then I got a reply back from Chase (co-founder) himself. In life very seldom you get a chance to do something meaningful, they are doing it! Hats off. Go Watsi!!
baggers 8 days ago 0 replies      
@chaseadam It would be quite nice to have an option to use this in a gittip sort of way.
Also how do you go about finding people to donate to? I have contacts with a Ugandan Hospital and I'm sure others here have have worked on the ground with folks that would love to link up with you guys.
Thanks for your awesome work and good luck
woodsier 8 days ago 0 replies      
You guys are absolute heroes. The concept behind this site is amazing. Well done.
hosh 8 days ago 0 replies      
Gratitude is never too corny for Thanksgiving. And thanks for putting the platform together :-)
nickbarone 8 days ago 0 replies      
Woah @ prefunding-treatement. Brilliant! I hope it scales - It can, I think, if you keep momentum.
aioprisan 8 days ago 0 replies      
you should build widgets so that others can embed the top stories from your site and get distributed exposure, I'm sure it would provide sustained exposure.
gauchosteph 8 days ago 0 replies      
Here's to another 30 more!
fblp 8 days ago 0 replies      
795 donations so far totalling $28,515
killingmichael 8 days ago 0 replies      
chase - this is great :) if you're up for it, we would be happy to donate some iOS time to the mobile app.
rxooo 8 days ago 0 replies      
We did it Reddit!
Ask HN: Feedback needed on NewsQast - new local news aggregator
2 points by daneuman  15 hours ago   2 comments top 2
ilamont 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I went to the site and was expecting something even more local. I am within the "Boston Manchester" area -- is that the TV market designation or the census bureau metro area?

Like the design. Headlines are nice and clear. Could use photos, though.

I think you could definitely work on your sources, too. All I see are the major Boston dailies and TV news stations at the top. If you're using RSS, I would see what you could come up with using blog, Twitter sources, or other social media -- I find that with news, the discussion is often the big draw after the headlines.

ameister14 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Right now it's just all the news thrown up in a jumble. Adding some order to it would be better. You arrange it by type a bit but it's still a kinda scatter-shot feel.

Also, say I live in Boston but hate the Herald and love CBS. I would like to be able to personalize my content aggregation so as to receive more from CBS than the Boston Herald, or to cut out the Herald entirely.

You can't just aggregate all the sources through RSS and say you're providing a service. I can do that myself. You should figure out where you add value; is it by putting more than one city? Perhaps you can add metrics and comparisons from city to city or allow users to select multiple municipalities.

Who is your audience?

Ask HN: Good Resources/Books for tackling Big Data
3 points by aespinoza  15 hours ago   discuss
Ask HN: What would it take for IE not to be hated?
6 points by andrewcross  20 hours ago   9 comments top 8
duiker101 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I think it's very hard, if not impossible. It is deep in people's mind, and that is more a problem than the browser's actual features/problems. I think that IE has done a lot of steps forward and is now a decent browser. Unfortunately there are many people that are considered "those good with PCs because they spend a lot of time playing games", that believe that IE sucks because everybody thinks so, and it's not going to be easy to change their mind, it's like "fan boys" but with hate.

I think this is because IE has been bad for many releases before being decent. Android has been near the same fate. Everyone thought that Android has a crappy user interface and a lot of people still think it even if now Android completely changed. Lucky it changed quickly, and so more people are giving it credit. But with IE, it's another story. In conclusion, possible, but it will take a lot of time and a lot of effort. I wonder if it's worth it. Microsoft should come up with some crazy revolutionary "killer feature", other way there will be no reason to switch back.

runjake 19 hours ago 1 reply      
Direct link to video for others who don't read TechCrunch:


I don't hate IE, but for me to consider start using it, it would need to run on all major platforms and be open ala Chrome and Firefox. Otherwise, I don't see the point.

27182818284 13 hours ago 0 replies      
I think Microsoft and IE haters alike often overlook one HUGE reason people won't switch to IE 10: There is no reason to switch back to IE because it doesn't offer any reason to. Even your question points out that there is no obvious reason why users should be switching. If it did, it would have started with something like "Now that IE has X will you switch?"

Chrome, Firefox, and Opera have proven innovative not just in the realm of CSS, JS, and HTML5 standards, but also in things like extensions, community, update cycles, etc. IE is constantly catching up, so even when it does become the "fastest browser" it is only that for a month. Then a new version of Chrome or Firefox comes out that is faster and has new features X,Y, and Z.

dholowiski 17 hours ago 0 replies      
As others have said, I don't think it's possible. I think Microsoft could gain some trust by bundling Chrome and Firefox with Windows, and possibly even abandoning IE, but I think that's fairly unlikely.

[edit] their best bet is to make the browser 'go away' so you can't even tell when you're in IE. I think they're actually taking steps towards this with the 'metro' version of the browser in Windows 8.

marshray 18 hours ago 0 replies      
It would need to have a default start page that does not insult my intelligence, rather than one like this: http://twitpic.com/9y42i1
maze 16 hours ago 0 replies      
By using Webkit
codgercoder 19 hours ago 0 replies      
time travel?
leecGoimik7 19 hours ago 0 replies      
Ask HN: Looking for Project for Quick Freelance Job
12 points by invinceable  1 day ago   6 comments top 4
anderspetersson 20 hours ago 0 replies      
The first day of every month HN has a thread where freelancers can post their skills and people can announce they are looking for someone to do work for them.

If you wait 2 more days you should see alot of people posting gigs availble for freelancers. The thread is called something like "Freelancer? Looking for Freelancers?

padseeker 21 hours ago 1 reply      
there is an interesting startup idea - small freelance jobs. I work full time but would like to pickup an interesting side project here or there that could be done late at night on my own without the hassle of odesk or whatnot. I have no work for you but you hit on an interesting concept, freelance jobs for under $1000 maybe? Just a thought.
invinceable 1 day ago 0 replies      
If it is a 1 day project for $500-$800 that is fine too. Thanks.


invinceable 1 day ago 0 replies      
Still here guys. Last bump I guess :/
Ask HN: Feedback needed for myRentr.com, a universal rental application
2 points by samp615  13 hours ago   2 comments top
impendia 12 hours ago 1 reply      
This looks fantastic. I live in a duplex, and I would most definitely consider using this when my tenants move out and I have to find new ones.

How do you plan to make a good profit? It seems like you not only have to maintain a website, but also do a bunch of schlepping for each $30. So much so, that I'd happily spend $30 to avoid it.

San Francisco Hacker News meetup happening this Thursday
86 points by lowglow  3 days ago   discuss
hunvreus 3 days ago 1 reply      
I'll be there with 2 colleagues from Shanghai where we've been organizing a HN meetup every month for the past year and a half (http://shanghaihn.org/).
tylermenezes 3 days ago 1 reply      
Nice to see these spreading to SF! I used to go to the ones in Seattle. You might want to consider creating an event on Meetup, it's tended to work better for us for recurring events like these should hopefully become.
snikolic 3 days ago 0 replies      
I'm in. Just moved to SF and ready to meet some awesome new folks!
necubi 3 days ago 1 reply      
Wow, got one of the last spots after only 47 minutes. Maybe a larger venue is warranted?
donebizkit 3 days ago 1 reply      
Great. I am in. I just moved to SF and need some community friction.
aclimatt 3 days ago 0 replies      
Looking forward to seeing everybody there. How many spots were available?
nthitz 3 days ago 1 reply      
What goes on at these meetups?
nicw 3 days ago 0 replies      
Signed up, looking forward! Managed to get a 'pending' ticket that was dropped by a fellow HNer. Thanks, whoever you are.
DanielRibeiro 3 days ago 0 replies      
Great! Being one block away from home/work, there is absolutely no excuse for me not to go.
davecyen 3 days ago 1 reply      
Thanks for organizing. Free is very appreciated. Sounds like format/agenda is still in the works, any possibility of posting a rough idea of what to expect before would be sweet.
magicarp 3 days ago 0 replies      
Psyched to meet some HNers in SF!
suyash 3 days ago 1 reply      
Btw can you change the name of FB group from San Francisco to SF Bay Area..since most people don't live in the city but surrounding areas?
nodesocket 3 days ago 1 reply      
Can't make this one, but certainly interested in attending the next.
pdufour 3 days ago 0 replies      
Sweet, just registered.
iwaffles 3 days ago 0 replies      
See you guys there!
suyash 3 days ago 0 replies      
Awesome...more meetups in Bay Area!
lsiebert 3 days ago 0 replies      
Damn, I'm in class then. Next time.
noinput 3 days ago 0 replies      
Looking forward to it!
Ask HN: What's the longest Unix uptime you've ever seen?
13 points by sigil  1 day ago   11 comments top 7
runjake 1 day ago 0 replies      
Not UNIX but VMS. At an old job, we had a central VAX server running VMS. It had an uptime of almost 6 years. I was there when they had to reboot it and it was this big major event.

The sysadmin, who had been hired long before me, started after the last time it was rebooted, so he was visibly sweating. Everything came right back up.

baconhigh 1 day ago 1 reply      

  $ uname -s

$ uptime
3:37PM up 2597 days, 20:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.12, 0.13, 0.09

Though, uptime is only a measure of how long it's been since you last patched/did kernel upgrades.

This box is off most of the network and being left alone just to see how long it lasts before it totally dies ;)

bediger4000 1 day ago 1 reply      
You might have an interest in "The Uptime Project": http://www.uptimeprj.com/

The similarly-named "Uptimes Project" seems to have expired, leaving only its dried corpse on the web.

cft 1 day ago 0 replies      
web10 ~> uptime
2:33pm up 1924 days 13:36, 1 user, load average: 0.39, 0.27, 0.16

web10 ~> cat /etc/issue

Welcome to SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64) - Kernel

ethomson 1 day ago 0 replies      
This would be hard to prove on really old Linux boxes since uptime rolled over after (just shy of) 500 days.
wrboyce 1 day ago 1 reply      
I used to run a thinkpad t41 as an in house server running dhcp, dns, that sort of thing. After a while, the uptime became oddly important to me, and I once managed to move house ~60 miles without losing the uptime.

It died at around 1050 days, RIP.

zalew 1 day ago 1 reply      
> What's the longest you've personally seen

there's a script for that

    /usr/bin/uptime | perl -ne "/(\d+) d/;print 8,q(=)x\$1,\"D\n\""

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