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Ask HN: Feedback tools with User Voice, Get Satisfaction, Olark
2 points by DanielRibeiro  58 minutes ago   1 comment top
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tnorthcutt 30 minutes ago 0 replies      
Based on their prior interactions with 37Signals, I have somewhat of a bias against Get Satisfaction, FWIW.
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Ask PG: How would you have started Reddit/HN without your existing audience?
124 points by staunch  1 day ago   27 comments top 11
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patio11 1 day ago 3 replies      
How could they have attracted the first critical few thousand users without leveraging an existing audience?

Borrow someone else's existing audience.

There are a couple ways to do this. The most straightforward is literally asking them for it. Somewhat surprisingly, people do say "yes" to this. (Joel Spolsky had a subreddit back in the early days, to share links with his fans. </trivia>)

There are various flavors of this in many services. Lady Gaga says all good little monsters follow her on Twitter, etc.

There are, of course, less savory options. The go-to option for many people is spamming Craigslist.

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pg 1 day ago 0 replies      
I probably would have suggested that they get all the other startups in their batch + a few friends each + more than a few of the Reddits' friends. 20 + 40 + 30 = 90, which probably would have been enough.
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iamelgringo 1 day ago 0 replies      
Having tried and failed two social news sites, and seeing tons of people try social related startups via H&F, I think I have a little to add. I wrote my own niche social news sites (on Django), and they both failed to get initial audiences.

Cuuute.com was going to be a social news site for cute shit (cat, dog pictures, etc...). It failed because I created a text based social news site rather than a image based one, and because after working on it for 4 months, I couldn't look at a kitten picture without wanting to vomit.

Newsley.com was my second attempt. It started out as a social news site for financial news. I worked hard at getting an initial audience for about 6 months. Finance types generally didn't want to talk about financial news, they want the news that's important to them, and they want it now. So, I pivoted to turn Newsley into a financial news search engine. That was going really well. Traffic was (and still) doubles every 6 weeks even though it's crap, alpha and buggy as hell.

<aside>Hackers & Founders started exploding this winter, and we had to choose either Newsley or H&F. Having a chance to hack Silicon Valley is a bit too enticing to pass up, so we're focusing on H&F right now. You'll hear from us soon.</aside>

The large social news sites, Digg, Reddit, HN have all had large geek audiences at inception. Digg had Kevin Rose's following from TechTV. Reddit and HN got a _huge boost from the people that read pg's writing.

The only other social news site that I'm aware of that's gotten anything close to successful has been Tipd.com. That was started by Digg power user refugees, and focused on a highly monetizeable audience.

Normals don't get social news. They don't get the concept of voting, checking back on a regular basis, and contributing to the conversation. If you're approaching a non-geek niche (like I did for both my social news sites), you're facing an uphill battle. That may change in a year or two as Reddit grows, but Reddit's a juggernaught right now, and it's done a great job of sub-reddit communities.

I firmly believe that starting (like I did) with a social news technology, is the wrong approach. I took a technology and tried to jump start a community around that technology. What I should have done is to create a community and then create technology to support and scale that community.

Adam Rifkin is doing that at 106miles.net for the 106 miles meetup. I'd put a lot of money on him succeeding. Adam has been building the 106 miles community for 6 years and recently opened it up to the public the last 18 months. His team only recently started writing code to support online conversations for that community. Their approach is to build online tools that help their physical community continue interacting.

Start with the community first, and build the technology to support it.

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ThomPete 1 day ago 1 reply      
I am well on my way to 5000 members on http://www.weekendhacker.net

I started by posting it here, forrst, startupguild and HN FaceBook group then I got picked up by a couple of other places and used that to then ask yet other places to have a look.

People have so far been very positive and that have helped me gain even more traction. It also help that I have actually connected all projects in need of help with someone who have offered to help.

Next step is to write about all the things I have learned from it. I am working on the website (got people to help me there in the spirit of WH)

What I have learned is 3 things.

1. Create as little friction for sign-up as possible. Be concise. Be personal. Be honest. The majority of my signups read the FAQ.

2. Think about social very broadly. For instance with WH I am sending out a mail with the projects structured, curated etc. Instead of people having to go to the website all the time, they receive a mail with the projects. So right now I am not depending on traffic. I am depending on making sure that everyone who have a project get offered help. (100% success rate so far). If it works by mail it will work by other means too.

3. Create boundaries for what your site is about. WeekendHacker is for very small projects. It might expand later on but now we are keeping it simple and exploring how far that will take us.

Hope this helps. I will make a bigger post about it all and then numbers next week.

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antirez 1 day ago 0 replies      
To start something like HN or Reddit without an existing audience is simple, since this is the kind of service that you can start enjoying even with 10 selected users.

So if you are an hacker, just invite a few of your friends and start sharing links, and the community will start growing...

Soon or later I want to create some kind of no profit organization to create something very similar to HN but with a more open model (not YC focused and so forth) and with more features that can be interesting to experiment with.
For now I don't have time for family and work issues, but hope to find some time in the next months.

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markkat 1 day ago 0 replies      
I strongly believe it's a matter of what you offer. You can tell everyone about your site, but if something of quality isn't there, people have no reason to stay. There are plenty of options.

My community site (hubski.com) is starting to get some energy after a few months. Personally, I believe it's because my view of the site has changed a bit. A bit of digression...: I started the site to teach myself programming. I grabbed the HN code, figured it out, and began to change it. I was an early Redditor, have been on HN some time, and I had a number of ideas I wanted to try. Slowly but surely, I began to build something I personally wanted to exist. I now know exactly where I am going. As for a seed community, I was very lucky to have some friends interested in giving feedback and to mess with it. Some were Redditors too. My wife is a loyal active member as well.

I only have a few months of experience, but IMO best way to build community is to engage and importantly, enjoy the site. Take the time to post the kind of things that you really want to see (not just filler content), and definitely take the time to get to know users. I am glad I did, because I've met some very cool people in the effort. You can't fake community. Don't waste your time trying. People can see through it. It's like a restaurant. If the food is good, people will come back.

I don't know what our trajectory will be, but I don't expect a steep climb. Actually, if you want a steep climb, you are in the wrong space, as a steep climb is antithetical to a quality community. At least the type I am interested in. If you are going to build a community, enjoy the process. -If you don't, you probably won't succeed.

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tokenadult 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm really curious to hear PG's answer, but also love input from others as well.

Thanks for emboldening my reply. I am not at all in pg's league as an influencer of online communities, but I've had a personal website with information and a point of view since 1995, and have been very active in online communities since before most members of the general public had ever heard of the Internet. (I started out on commercial online services.) Any online community allows an opportunity for a member to become conspicuous by contributing good content. Quite a few online communities are organized around an initial common interest everyone has (e.g., homeschooling or education reform or gifted education in the communities I'm most active in) and every community broadens its topic scope over time as people form friendships and share other interests.

Were I to set up a social news forum (presumably as a subpart of my personal website, to which I have devoted very little maintenance attention for years), I would announce that first to my 566 Facebook friends, most of whom I have met in online communities. (Many of them I have since "face met" at conferences around the country about the issues we all care about.) Many of them would be good moderators of a forum, and would be happy to help in return for finding new, good content and sharing that with a broader community of readers. I'll have to try the experiment, as soon as my busy technical adviser (my oldest son) squeezes some time together to upgrade my website.

P.S. Is there already a good site of this nature for news and discussion about education policy, or will I have to build my own? There is no sense in reinventing that wheel if a good wheel is already available.

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marojejian 20 hours ago 0 replies      
What we are asking here is a subset of the question "how to I advertise?," with the condition that we don't have existing users to use as an asset.

Seems to me there are two different issues to deal with:

1) How minimise the negative consequences of not having users ("ghost town effect").

- One option is to structure the product so that the number of users is not obvious. Since at this point there is little value to showing all the users of the system at once, or highlighting aggregate activity, perhaps it's fine to not include these features, or at least not make them prominent. So a UI like StumbleUpon might fare better than one like Digg, where the aggregate activity is shown prominently.

- Or, pick another MVP with lower critical mass, and then build the community later. Delicious was great because it was useful if only you are using it, but better with others. (though still no where as good as it could be.... Chad, i wish you luck!).

2) what assets can we use (or create) to acquire users efficiently?

Zince we don't have users to work on word of mouth, you have to have something else. Some options:

- A unique value proposition that will excite someone with influence to give you access to their audience.
- a unique product structure
- a quid pro quo for the influencer

- A "story" that will entice a blogger to want to talk about you.
- make it controversial (e.g. blippy )
- make it human interest ( e.g. man sells spot on iPad line using AirBnB).

- A unique marketing opportunity
- the greatest ever was when Facebook opened up their platform to intense viral (spammy) promotion.
- You may not find a gold vein that rich... but there are always more opening up. Perhaps you were early to find a burgeoning high quality community, and built a persona there with influence....
- find a news story and attach yourself to it. (reputation.com connected with people who had some crazy bad google results, to the degree they could get into the news. )

- An asset you have already. OK, you're probably not PG if you are reading this, but maybe you:
- Know a lot of people in area X (which is why that is where you should focus your community).
- Have a good story to tell, and can link it to your product
- Know ONE person who has enough influence to help you if your pitch is good. As a VC I felt like this was a role central to the job, whether I planned to invest or not... everyone loves to help someone that they think should and will succeed.

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defrost 1 day ago 0 replies      
A lot of the jump starting on Reddit came from irc.freenode.org via word of mouth about a new aggregate voting site that needed stress testing, while it was certainly a predominately hacker crowd it wasn't overly dominated by people that read PG essays, I myself wasn't that aware of the PG connection until several months later.

petewailes made some interesting comments, in my humble opinion reddit was likely helped along more by leveraging an existing community that already communicated well than it was by PG essays - although all things helped and I'm sure the essays played their part as well.

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andresmh 1 day ago 0 replies      
Another option, albeit expensive and time consuming, is to start snowballing by reaching out to users in person. For example, we ran many in-person programming workshops for kids using scratch.mit.edu and now we have more than 800,000 users.
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davidw 1 day ago 1 reply      
That 'niche strategy' sounds exactly like the advice from "Crossing the Chasm", by the way.
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Ask HN: For Android devs, how is the 'Top Developer' badge treating you?
2 points by 201studio  1 hour ago   discuss
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What are my rights if website who has my credit card details, was hacked?
2 points by gopalanj  2 hours ago   1 comment top
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jcol 2 hours ago 0 replies      
You're only liable for the first $50, but most banks won't even make you pay that. Once you report a fraudulent transaction, they will typically reimburse you within 24 hours but some banks take longer.

I never really looked into whether there's any obligation to notify me, because I'm not responsible for any fraudulent transactions anyways.

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Ask HN: Please review my weekend project
14 points by spektom  10 hours ago   13 comments top 7
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djb_hackernews 58 minutes ago 0 replies      
That is very cool. I don't think I'll ever use it personally because i dont share much on the web, but I hope it becomes popular for those that do.
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iamsidd2k7 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey fellow hacker, the web app is cool. My suggestion a good value add would be writing browser extensions. You can start with Google Chrome since its all HTML + JS. You might want to think about Safari, IE and Firefox later.
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tszming 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Another similar project: http://awurl.com/
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dgunn 6 hours ago 1 reply      
This is awesome! However, I'm using IE right now (I'm at work, there's no way I would use IE on purpose) and the button doesn't drag to the bookmark bar. Is the button necessary? Maybe after highlighting, the share dialog just pops up. Maybe it can be enabled/disabled for when users need to highlight for other reasons.

Great job tho. I like the idea and I'll be using it when I get home.

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revorad 8 hours ago 1 reply      
Looks useful, but I can't drag that bookmarklet.
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iworkforthem 9 hours ago 0 replies      
easy to click: http://bquot.com
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acron0 8 hours ago 1 reply      
That's pretty nifty! I can see it being used favorably by journos and bloggers.
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Ask HN: How does Apple gain from iOS5 Twitter integration?
6 points by alastair  7 hours ago   7 comments top 6
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freejack 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Apple gets a social messaging backplane for essentially free while Google struggles with building their own. Strategically this puts them ahead of GOOG and AMZN and on better footing with Facebook.

Apple has previously tried to do a deal with Facebook to presumably implement similar features - those negotiations weren't fruitful, perhaps a stroke of good luck for both Twitter (#2 in the space) and Apple (Twitter less likely to be a competitive threat to Apple).

In some respects this is dangerous for Twitter too. If Apple users get used to these features and use them appreciably, Apple may move to re-implement on their own platform a la iMessage (a replacement for carrier SMS). The smart guys at Twitter probably have a pretty good understanding of how this commodifies some of their platform and how to manage that over the long term.

/r

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arpit 4 hours ago 0 replies      
I think this is another "make the platform better" move more than anything else. My biggest gripe with every new app is the "Sign in to Twitter to share" button and off late I have stopped doing that. This feature now lets developers use a simpler API to allow sharing while removing the hassle to end users. Again this is one of the features I love in Android where any application just sends a "share" intent and other installed apps can respond to it, allowing app content to be sharable beyond the services the developer could have imagined.
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steventruong 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Facebook and Apple have tried to negotiate something for a long time now and both have had a hard time coming to an agreement on working together so it's not that Apple doesn't want to integrate with Facebook but rather more than likely nothing has been hashed out on terms both sides could agree to.

As for what Apple stands to gain? I don't know for sure but it would be a good experiment for them to see how many people would use a social feature like twitter when integrated and how people socialize and leverage that data both for learning how to improve their own social elements as well as maybe strike a monetary deal later. Who knows. It's too difficult to speculate. For all we know, its just good UX that could draw in more love for Apple products.

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michaelpinto 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Apple gets leverage over Facebook they next time they want to talk. This could also be a shot against a future Facebook flavored release of Android.
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mooism2 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Do they perceive Facebook as being too aligned with Microsoft?
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tobylane 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Twitter is much more 2D (right word?), you can get away with just implementing sharing/tweeting, but if iOS could only post statuses/links/pictures it wouldn't be enough.
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Trumpet Winsock fundraising effort raises $20k, leads to general amnesty
24 points by jacques_chester  18 hours ago   discuss
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Ask HN: Should we make a standard throwaway account like whos hiring account?
5 points by open  8 hours ago   1 comment top
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profitbaron 8 hours ago 0 replies      
There also could be an option like Quora have where you can submit anonymously, where instead of it saying "by USER" it says "by anon" with no link to a users profile etc.

However, I don't think that it really makes a big difference either way but it is a nice idea.

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Does anyone else think that Apple made terrible decision hiding scrollbars?
4 points by lucasf  7 hours ago   9 comments top 3
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brunoc 7 hours ago 1 reply      
You can try it on the latest Ubuntu - it works in a similar way. I haven't had any issues with it.
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steventruong 7 hours ago 1 reply      
The bar shows up briefly while scrolling. I can't remember the last time I clicked on a scrollbar to scroll... That said, I'm sure some do but without playing with it, we don't know if it appears if you hover the mouse over that area or not. It's one of those you gotta play with it but for me not an issue
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joshka 7 hours ago 1 reply      
1920x1080 spilt vertically = 960 = same size as the common 960 grid layout. With scrollbars and chrome, a 960 grid does not fit.
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Has Apple finally arrived in 1984?
5 points by mironathetin  10 hours ago   6 comments top
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tobylane 9 hours ago 1 reply      
I don't see your point, are you referencing Orwell, it sounds too good to be true, or we will be data mined out of privacy?
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Ask HN: bad ideas vs letting creativity flow
4 points by BadassFractal  9 hours ago   7 comments top 6
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nudge 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Say you have doubts, and that you want to discuss them. Then discuss them, in an orderly and dispassionate way. Keep in mind the possibility that you are the one who's wrong, and you'll be fine. Be calm, rational and modest.

Also: creativity does not mean not rejecting ideas. Creativity involves rejecting vast quantities of ideas. It just also involves creating more ideas than you reject. So one important phase of being creative is uncritically spawning vast numbers of ideas. Another important phase is critically evaluating them. Hemingway (apparently - this is potentially apocryphal) said "I write one page of masterpiece to ninety-one pages of shit. I try to throw the shit in the wastebasket."

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steventruong 9 hours ago 0 replies      
At the risk of going against the opinions of others on here, my personal belief is no one can really predict what will succeed and what will fail. Many will argue that you can tell what makes sense and what doesn't but that's not completely true in all cases. Some ideas that seem like failures at first have gone on to be great successes. Sure, in hindsight its easy for many to say its obvious but most are just full of shit and they don't even realize it. Even those involved in some ideas admit they weren't sure whether or not those ideas were crazy or not.

Often times, even some of the biggest ideas out there (and small ones too), sounds ludicrous at the start with hordes of doubters. There are also ideas that have failed, not because the concept or idea itself is bad but the execution was wrong or they took the wrong approach, bad timing, wrong features, etc... and were later found to be a success by someone else.

Some ideas may sound dumb (think pet rock) and yet end up making money or are their own success in their own right. You may think that is a one-off example but I've witness enough (and done my own fair share of ideas even I think is ridiculous) that saying you know the idea is doomed to fail is in my honest opinion a bit ignorant and arrogant.

As many have said before me, experience is both a blessing and a krytonite in that sometimes experience hinders you from trying what you think is to be a failure until someone else manages to make it a success. Experience is valuable but so is the willingness to try things even if it goes against your belief.

That said, whoever said you had to spend months developing and prototyping? You can seek the right crowd (potential users/customers) to iterate whether there is a market or not without a product and in many cases, without a prototype of any kind. If you guys always wait till you have a working MVP to determine whether or not an idea is worth building (although in some cases you absolutely need one albeit rare), then you're probably not doing things right already (especially if this is a common topic that comes up amongst yourselves).

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yurka 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Here's how Apple solved this problem:

"Paired Design Meetings

This was really interesting. Every week, the teams have two meetings. One in which to brainstorm, to forget about constraints and think freely. As Lopp put it: to "go crazy". Then they also hold a production meeting, an entirely separate but equally regular meeting which is the other's antithesis. Here, the designers and engineers are required to nail everything down, to work out how this crazy idea might actually work. This process and organization continues throughout the development of any app, though of course the balance shifts as the app progresses. But keeping an option for creative thought even at a late stage is really smart."

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/200...

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lukebaker 5 hours ago 0 replies      
A brainstorming meeting is not a place to offer harsh critique. I think it's okay to offer variations of an idea during a brainstorm, but not outright critique. This is a situation where you want creativity to flow. After the brainstorming, everyone needs to think critically about the ideas and have a time for debate when deciding what to execute.

So to answer your question, it depends what mode you are in. Are you still in the idea gathering phase? Then let bad ideas in. If not, then it's time for critique.

(I base these off of a talk I heard by Craig McNair Wilson, a Disney Imagineer. Here are some notes someone else took on the same topic.)

http://www.theparagon.org/archives/2006/02/03/brainstorming_...

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mike64 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I was in a similar position last year, and ended up crashing and burning. I was working on a startup with two friends, and we had lots of ideas in a variety of areas (not all software). In the end, we decided to develop a "quick and simple" website to learn a bit about how to work together. None of us thought the website would make money, but that was OK because it was only supposed to take a few weeks. In the end, we wasted about 9 months on it before we finally decided to go our separate ways.

I'm not sure this helps you much with your situation. In retrospect we should have spent the time doing market research on some of our other ideas which might have been more commercial. Perhaps this is something you can do with your pals? Follow Steve Blank's advice from "Four Steps to the Epiphany" and start talking to your potential customers before you do much serious product development.

While I agree with steventruong that no-one can predict what will make money, there are psychological factors to consider: if you really think the idea is a waste of time, you won't fully commit to it and that might make it more likely to fail...

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tobylane 9 hours ago 1 reply      
"Reductio ad absurdum". Keep asking about the details till either you no longer think it's stupid, or they see some downsides to it.
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Ask HN: What is the iMessage protocol?
3 points by crb  7 hours ago   discuss
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Ask HN: How do I convert a list of startup ideas into a single, strong vision?
5 points by ventureawaits  9 hours ago   2 comments top
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revorad 9 hours ago 1 reply      
Apologies for quoting PG yet again, but "always produce" really is what I do to find my way through my ever-changing ideas:

Sometimes jumping from one sort of work to another is a sign of energy, and sometimes it's a sign of laziness. Are you dropping out, or boldly carving a new path? You often can't tell yourself. Plenty of people who will later do great things seem to be disappointments early on, when they're trying to find their niche.

Is there some test you can use to keep yourself honest? One is to try to do a good job at whatever you're doing, even if you don't like it. Then at least you'll know you're not using dissatisfaction as an excuse for being lazy. Perhaps more importantly, you'll get into the habit of doing things well.

Another test you can use is: always produce. For example, if you have a day job you don't take seriously because you plan to be a novelist, are you producing? Are you writing pages of fiction, however bad? As long as you're producing, you'll know you're not merely using the hazy vision of the grand novel you plan to write one day as an opiate. The view of it will be obstructed by the all too palpably flawed one you're actually writing.

"Always produce" is also a heuristic for finding the work you love. If you subject yourself to that constraint, it will automatically push you away from things you think you're supposed to work on, toward things you actually like. "Always produce" will discover your life's work the way water, with the aid of gravity, finds the hole in your roof.

http://www.paulgraham.com/love.html

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Ask HN: Do Americans stand a chance on freelance sites?
112 points by lss456  3 days ago   49 comments top 29
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jasonkester 3 days ago 4 replies      
Absolutely. Just make a point of never competing with the $10/hr crowd.

Take a minute and read a few of those cheap bids. Do they inspire confidence? If you were an employer, would you honestly believe that the person who wrote that bid is capable of building the thing you're trying to build? Of course not. They all sound like a bunch of desperate children trying to get away with something. If you want to take work from them, all you need to do is not sound like a desperate child trying to get away with something.

Take 10 minutes and write a good proposal, with a summary of the project, your basic approach to solving it, and what you think it would realistically take to do the job. Quote your full rate, and don't worry even for a second that your bid is ten times higher than the next highest one. You're sending a message that "I can actually pull this off", and the best way to do that is to distance yourself as far as possible from the herd.

If you succeed, the project owner will end up looking at two stacks of bids. One stack will have 150 flaky looking quotes to do the whole project for $300, none of which stand out as inspiring much confidence. The other stack will have a single well written proposal, quoting a bit more than he'd expected to pay, but clearly from a guy who has done this before and can do it again.

His choice is now: Sift through that rubbish pile and hope I get lucky, or go with the expensive guy.

That's a pretty good place to be.

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patio11 3 days ago 2 replies      
While folks (particular Jason) are giving you excellent advice, can I take this from another angle? A $20 bill rate does not mean you are getting $20 per hour. Not even close. You have to factor in all the non-billable parts of consulting, like writing proposals, educating these clients that $10/hr providers will likely not lead to project success, and handholding them through the project because they'll likely need lots of it. They're disproportionately likely to be pathological clients because they are attempting to do business in a place which might as well be marketforlemons.com to save a few hundred bucks. It took me years to adjust to this, but it is true: a few hundred bucks is not a lot of money.

Can I strongly suggest you make a small investment in improving your business skills, get clients in the old- or new-fashioned ways without a marketplace site, and laugh in the general direction of a $20 bill rate? Also, don't call yourself a freelance programmer. You solve problems for businesses. Many businesses have problems such that there is no number they will not pay to get them resolved.

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sivers 3 days ago 0 replies      
I hire on Elance and ODesk a lot, and almost ignore price. I've never hired the cheapest person.

Instead, put your attention on getting good ratings from past clients. That makes all the difference in the world.

Even consider using their platform when doing work for friends or existing clients. Do it through the site, letting them take their cut, because it's worth it for getting a good strong history of past-projects there.

I'm working with an animator on Elance, and even though we've done 5 projects together, have 10 more upcoming, and do all our communication directly by Skype, he still wants me to keep all project posting & payments through Elance. It's good for both of us. (After each project I give him 5-star ratings, and he does the same for me as an employer.)

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hadtocomment 3 days ago 2 replies      
I could write a book on my experience going from $12/hr to $85/hr on odesk. It's been quite an experience.

I get plenty of invitations for projects at a rate slightly above $60/hr. I haven't bid on a project in many months, and I even hid my profile for a while when things got too busy at my day job.

There are a few things you need to do to be successful on odesk. I've never done a project on another site, so I don't know if these tips translate, but some of them should.

1) Get some feedback as soon as possible. Find a small project to get your feet wet and bid a low rate to get the job.

2) Answer requests from the prospective client as soon as possible.

3) Use your best grammar. I find it helps me to speak to the prospective client on the phone. YMMV.

4) When you apply to a project, read the project and ask questions. Don't just make some generic cover letter and spam the clients.

5) When you apply to the project, if you are particularly interested in the project, have past experience with the project, or have some interesting piece of information to share with the client, make that clear. It helps you stand out.

6) Take the English test on odesk and do well on it.

7) Fill out your profile. Put relevant projects (even those you didn't do on odesk) in your portfolio. Provide links to your work.

8) Do good work. Make your clients happy. Get good feedback.

9) Remember that price is a signal. Many US clients will assume that you must be good to charge such a high rate.

I used to post on HN as briancooley, but I added one too many zeros to my noproc setting and put myself on about a 694-day hiatus instead of a 69.4-day hiatus. oops Can't say that I miss posting much, but I thought I would offer some suggestions. At least for mobile development, the market seems crazy to me.

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maxklein 3 days ago 0 replies      
I used to earn a living on rentacoder back in the day. Price is not important - you just need to be really good in your niche, don't appear arrogant (many high price devs make this mistake), and completely understand his problem, then break it down into smaller components for him.

People will pay a good premium if they are reasonably certain their project will be completed fast and with high quality.

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Dove 3 days ago 0 replies      
I'm bidding against people who will work for $10/hour or less and do really good work.

I rather doubt that. Nobody does really good work at that rate, not in this field. Cheap programmers do legendarily shoddy work on projects of any scale, and the employers worth working for know that.

Offer great work at a fair wage, and you'll be fine.

To paraphrase Howard Taylor, if you want to succeed as a freelancer, you need to be (A) the very best at what you do, (B) a great communicator, and (C) everyone's favorite person to work with. And I'd add that you need to be able to prove to a prospective employer that you are those things.

My strategy starting out has been to communicate relentlessly and deliver spectacularly. Really understand a client's needs and ask a lot of questions (and make a lot of comments) about a project before even putting in a bid. Do tiny $50 trial contracts well and quickly, and then offer to finish the job at a fair price. Always respond to messages the same day. Always get working software into the customer's hands as fast as possible, and polish the living daylights out of it jointly.

If you're awesome and people know it, nobody will want to hire the $10/hr crowd when they could get you.

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dman 3 days ago 0 replies      
Do BMW's stand a chance in the US automotive landscape? Will Whole Foods survive the Walmart onslaught? - Price is just one of the dimensions on which to stand out in a market, there are buyers who look beyond the price.
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saluki 3 days ago 0 replies      
Yes.

In the beginning you might have to bid at a lower hourly rate so you can get a few projects under your belt and good reviews.

Once you have established good reviews and show some experience on the site start bidding at your target hourly rate. You may not get as many projects as the $10/hr crowd but you'll be working at your target hourly rate.

Tips:

Your reviews are golden, don't take on too much work or drag your feet on a project, as good reviews are your ticket to more work.

Read the jobs carefully, get a feel for the vibe from the client. If you get a feeling they might not be good to work for during the bidding, messaging or emailing do not accept the work. You don't want to work with bad clients that are unreasonable and will be a pain to work with plus could give you a negative review.

Write a custom proposal for each project to show them you're not just using a standard blurb.

Copy and paste their requirements into you bid then go through them line by line rewriting them as part of the scope of work adding any suggestions you can add from your experience.

Link to any similar projects you have completed.

If it's a simple task link to a quick mock up or proof of concept so they can see you're capable of the task.

Link to a portfolio.

List your years of experiences and services you can provide so they have an idea of your capabilities.

If you aren't hungry for work bid only on projects that match your target hourly rate.

If you are hungry for work, lower your target hourly rate for a while.

Market yourself via family and friends, mention that you are a freelancer if they know anyone who needs a website/programming.

Keep learning new things and expanding your capabilities. As your skills improve your profits will as well. You'll complete simple tasks more quickly and more complicated work pays more.

Good luck.

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AretNCarlsen 2 days ago 0 replies      
OP: > I'm bidding against people who will work for $10/hour or less and do really good work.

Repeated response: > No, you aren't. No programmer does good work for $10/hour or less.

The implication: We are obviously worth more than $10/hour, and the problem is just that employers don't know that or can't find us.

This is a dangerous economic oversimplification. It implies that you just need to keep doing the same thing, but advertise better. That is not the problem here.

Yes, the work you do produces a great deal of actual wealth for your employers, more wealth than is generated by the middle manager they pay $50/hour. Similarly, fresh water is much more valuable to me than an iPhone, yet I can buy hundreds of gallons of water for the price of an iPhone.

We have had several decades during which the vast majority of the worldwide supply of programming talent was excluded from the hiring pool. Even within the U.S., a programmer located in certain states and cities has been able to command a higher wage on that basis. When you have been the beneficiary of artificial scarcity and consequential producer surplus [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_surplus], it is easy to proudly and mistakenly relate your economic value with your actual value.

Don't get depressed when you see your work performed for $10/hour. You have not grown less talented or even less unique than you used to be; you had simply overestimated your uniqueness based on confounded experimental data. The great news is that in the meantime there has been someone exactly like you, someone who happened to exist in a different geography, whose wage has now gone up to $10/hour.

The only fix is niche work. Make yourself more unique. This won't work as well as it used to, since non-Americans can learn new skills too, but that is how capitalism works.

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tallshaun 3 days ago 0 replies      
I will answer this from an employers perspective. I myself have managed teams of developers, and have also hired individual developers off free lance sites. (as well as graphic designers and writers).

To most employers, the actual rate you charge is not that important. The basic reason is that we view our time as the most valuable constraint on a project.
That is, we are far more likely to pay more, if it assures us that it is going to save us time in the long run.

Time can be taken up by having to re-do a project, poor communication, misunderstood requirements, etc etc.

The most important thing you can do (as many below have said), is to read the job description I have posted, and provide a customized proposal to it. I am not asking for a detailed in depth proposal, but I would like to see that you have put in say 20 minutes or so of work on it.

The comment here, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2619472 is also applicable. My description of the job is likely not going to be exhaustively complete. Ask me one or two questions about the job.

Better yet, if i've missed a very important part of the description, ask the question, but then make an assumption and say, "if I assume this is the task, then I would do y, and my timeline would be x"

Also, use bullets in your reply to me, I'm going to be scanning a ton of applicants, and bullet points help me quickly read through your application.

Hope that helps.

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bendmorris 3 days ago 0 replies      
For a developer like you, there is a set of good jobs that you can get with some effort, and a vast set of jobs that you will never get, no matter what you do. Some jobs are either not serious about hiring or don't care about quality and are actively seeking the lowest price. They will be disappointed and their project will probably never be finished the way they want it. You don't want to work with these people, and you don't want to compete down to an unreasonable wage unless you're just starting out.

There is, however, a smaller set of jobs which you are qualified for based on your unique skillset and which will recognize quality and ignore price. If you can convince these employers that you are the best for the job, you can get some decent, well-paying work.

The problem is, with ubiquitous "race to the bottom" low bids on nearly every project (many of them automatically generated and of extremely poor quality) it's really hard to tell the difference between the two. Just apply broadly and don't set your heart on any one project - you can't know what the person behind it is really like, or if you ever really had a shot.

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cstrouse 3 days ago 0 replies      
So far elance.com has gotten me decent wages that an American would expect; however, freelancer.com and vworker.com have yielded nothing but $5/hr crap jobs and projects where the scope creep was so bad I ended up making like $2/hr by the end. Also, freelanceswitch seems to be better because you have to pay $7/mo to bid on jobs and most of the $5/hr crowd won't do that.
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qeorge 2 days ago 0 replies      
I'm on the other end (hire folks remotely). New folks are impossible to hire because there's no way to judge how much you do in an hour.

If people have past projects I can see: "they built X app for Y price." But if you're new, all I see is an hourly rate, which means nothing.

You can solve this 2 ways

1) lower your rate so low that someone hires you, and build up your experience so you can charge more

2) show examples of your work, with prices. "I built this. If you wanted a site just like this, it would cost you $XXXX (XX hours)".

No one does the latter. I wish they would.

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hippich 3 days ago 0 replies      
Originally from third-world country, I went from $8/hr to $50/hr in less then a year on oDesk. I quit it since I work on h-1b visa now in USA, but once I get greencard, plan to get back to freelancing, if no other projects will popup in my head.
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nfriedly 3 days ago 0 replies      
I quit taking on much freelance work and bumped my elance.com rate up to $120/hour. I still get about one request for proposal each month.
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bbg 3 days ago 0 replies      
I'm still trying to make a go of it on vworker, but have no ratings. However, this guy seems to be successful with it:
http://tbbuck.com/winning-your-first-freelance-job-on-vworke...
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Dilpil 3 days ago 0 replies      
The higher your bid the better. Your $100 an hour rate is your premium branding.
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venturebros 3 days ago 0 replies      
I have given up on oDesk it seems to be impossible now to find anything that pays above $50.

I have shifted my attention to Elance. Quality work,good pay, and more employees wanting Americans. Just insanely competitive.

I got my first bid accepted after shelling out an extra $10 after using my first 10 connects. I made the money back but even with a good rating it is still difficult.

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alain94040 3 days ago 0 replies      
I don't think you can compete on price, which is why you should compete on quality.

Just as an example, I have seen some bids request that the person speak fluently English. Obviously, the person posting the project has been bitten in the past with communication issues with their outsourced resource. That's one of your strengths.

How professional and thoughtful are your answers? They'd better stand out if you want to justify charging more.

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gregpilling 2 days ago 0 replies      
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is culture. I have hired people on elance and sometimes the simplest things trip you up because of cultural differences. There are even significant cultural difference between California and Louisiana, let alone between the US and a another country overseas.
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ivanhoe 3 days ago 0 replies      
Well, from this point of view, being an American seems to be better than being an European at the moment. I'm from Serbia, which is I believe the country with the lowest avg. income in this part of the Europe (and much lower than EU countries), and (ok, being senior dev) I wouldn't bid under $20, just wouldn't make sense. And I do get enough work to keep me busy. So, what I meant to say, none of us can compete with these $5/h guys prise-wise, but (if you are good) there's more than enough work for everybody, just find your price niche and compete there, don't waste time on low bids.
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Tom77 3 days ago 0 replies      
It's tough and your portfolio should demonstrate your skill for your premium price/rate. I'd love to work with more North American freelancers, but they just don't bid on jobs. I have to go through profiles and invite them, but even then I rarely get a response.

So yes, apply, show interest through your initial contact, and have a kick-ass portfolio. You'll get work.

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ashitvora 2 days ago 0 replies      
If you are very new to the industry, you might face some difficulty initially since people are not sure if its worth paying you more when there are others who are ready to do same work at cheaper rate.

But if you have good portfolio, audience, contacts, you won't face much problem.

If somebody is cheaper, there's a reason why they are cheaper.
If you are good at what you are doing, people will be happy to pay you what you are worth.

Good Luck :)

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erangalp 3 days ago 0 replies      
It's not the hourly rate, it's the total cost and quality delivered. Try bidding on fixed priced projects - while you'll still likely to submit higher bids, the difference is not as big as the hourly rate - since an experienced programmer can do more in less time.

Represent yourself with class and show a portfolio of quality work. Not everyone goes for the lowest bidder, and you definitely want the clients that are looking for quality. Do you really want to work for someone who expects you to work for 12$ / hour?

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gmazzotti 3 days ago 0 replies      
when i hire freelancers i consider 10/hour quotes only for very easy jobs if not i simply delete them and pay attention to higher bids. of course a higher bid is on of the variables i look for, but a so cheap quote make me think that im payin or for a bad coder or a good one that will make my proyect with out really paying attention to it and without me spending a lot of time explaining everything once and again and again he will do a bad work, i don't need any of those situations so i simply delete those quotes
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coldarchon 3 days ago 0 replies      
my minimum is at 50€/h because people hired those for 10 or 5€/h which failed or stopped calling back ..
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nkhanna 3 days ago 0 replies      
This is correct. In my experience, the 10-20$/hr guys are usually programmers who have just started and are good only for some sideline stuff. The moment you engage with them with a sizable work, either the rate goes up or they back off.
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danrod 3 days ago 0 replies      
On mark! Past performance is a key indicator for future behavior ie product and service.
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citricsquid 3 days ago 1 reply      
If you're not in a position to market your skills outside of freelance sites or at a higher cost, your skills probably aren't worth over $10/hour.
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Ask HN: I need data, lots of data
9 points by latitude  19 hours ago   1 comment top
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latitude 19 hours ago 0 replies      
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Ask HN: Is NYC a good place to get a job as a Web dev?
47 points by venturebros  2 days ago   47 comments top 14
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carterac 2 days ago 3 replies      
NYC is an insanely hot market for web engineering talent. Every founder I know complains about finding great engineers. As CEO of a tech startup here, I personally spend ~80% of my energy dedicated to finding the absolute best engineers in the city, and often I have to recruit people from other parts of the world and convince them to move here (which isn't that hard given how beautiful this city is).

Another data point: a friend who wanted to move from Microsoft to NYC had multiple job offers within a week of posting his resume to an NYC tech mailing list.

If you're interested in speaking more, please email me at carter@art.sy. Even if you're not interested in Art.sy, I'm happy to intro you to other NYC startups you might be interested in.

[edit] Here is a link to the Quora thread of all NYC startups that are hiring: http://www.quora.com/Startups-in-New-York-City/Which-startup...

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sbisker 2 days ago 1 reply      
Oh, it's venturebros, the guy with the cool name! :)

Once you're in NY, drop Hackruiter[0] a line. They're YC alums [EDIT: and apparently YC funded again as recruiters] and based out of NYC, doing recruitment for startups (mostly YC alumni themselves). They got me my current contract and they're all-around great guys that, as both recruiters and engineers, understand the scene as well as anyone. They also run a weekly meetup called BrainDump[1], which is about as techy as a meetup can get (in a good way), and a mailing list "LinkedList".

They seem to be all about meeting smart, motivated people and making meaningful connections, as opposed to just playing matchmaker - so even though you're not looking yet, I bet they'd be up for a chat. Heck, if you're interested, I'll point them to this thread.

[0]http://www.hackruiter.com/
[1]http://www.hackruiter.com/about

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sbisker 2 days ago 1 reply      
To answer your question more directly: There are a ton of people applying for these jobs. Like, crazy amounts.
And why wouldn't there be? It's a great field to be in right now.

But thanks to things like the Mythical Man-Month[0], engineering is a field where people would rather have 1 incredible engineer than 10 mediocre engineers for the same price. So for someone with talent and the right reputation, there's arguably no better field to be in than engineering.

So basically, if you're good at what you do, engineering is one of the hottest job markets in the country. (In NY, the hotness is particularly exaggerated, because the startups there are the companies most likely to want to keep their teams small, and hire the best - and they have to compete with the financial sector, which provides large numbers of engineers a steady job with high pay.)

If you're not good at what you do (or even if you just want to get better at what you do), don't assume the hotness of the market will get you a job. The market is hot for engineers, but I'd say it's only hot for good engineers, again, due to the Mythical Man-Month effect.

But don't be discouraged. Just by being proactive getting internships and participating on Hacker News, you're probably better than 80% of the applicants your age out there. That's why so many of our answers are assuming that you're a good candidate - because odds are, you probably are. :)

[0] If you haven't read this, take a few moments out this summer to do so. It's a quick, breezy and incredibly informative read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

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awarzzkktsyfj 2 days ago 0 replies      
New York is still full of schemers, compared to SF Bay area. I lived in Mountain View for two years, San Francisco for three, and NYC for two -- I am in the process of moving back to Mountain View. I love NYC as a place to live, but found it frustrating for tech work. The job offers I've had in the SF bay area always seemed reasonable to me. In New York, I've received ridiculous low-ball offers, and have had a few friends have the same experience, but only in New York. They all have moved to San Francisco now.
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adrianparsons 2 days ago 2 replies      
I just completed a job search and can say the market really is in your favor.

Stop using Craiglist. If you're going to use a service, use Indeed, Authentic Jobs, the 37 Signals job board or something else. "Inside Startups" is a great newsletter that lists jobs weekly.

Ideally, though, you want to meet people in person. There are multiple parties, events, and meetups every week.

To start, go to any of the tech meetups listed on Meetup.com. Garysguide.org has a lot of events listed as well. (Those Meetup groups have email lists, watch them for job postings.) Get business cards and follow up with people.

You're going to get offers faster than you expect. Decide what you want (big company, small company, front-end, back-end, python, ruby, etc), and learn to say "no". Before saying "yes", ask other nerds about them (at the Meetups, for example).

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markbao 2 days ago 0 replies      
I'll freaking hire you right now.

Just kidding, but yeah, if you're good and you're in NYC, you'll be slurped up by the startups here. Everyone has problems hiring in NYC.

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pavel_lishin 2 days ago 1 reply      
We're hiring for a web developer right now. When I was moving here - six months ago - I easily managed to snag four interviews over a two-day trip specifically to try to find a job.

So yeah.

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peacemaker 2 days ago 0 replies      
It seems for web devs a great place to be, but how about for embedded/real-time programmers? I've over 10 years experience in defence and gaming industries mainly doing C++ and I'd love to work in NYC but just assumed it'd be far too difficult to land a position. Anyone have any idea?
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onassar 2 days ago 0 replies      
It's def. a good market. Top #5 in the US no doubt. I'd say make the decision on where you want to live over whether or not you could get the best job there. Tough finding that balance, so if you like the city, run with it..
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brandonkm 2 days ago 0 replies      
NYC is an excellent place to find work as a developer. You have a ridiculous selection of awesome startups and larger companies to choose from. The last Brooklyn.js meetup I went to had more people looking to hire front-end developers than people looking at a ratio ~5:1.
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ayb 2 days ago 0 replies      
There are plenty of opportunities in NYC - from startups, to big brands, to finance. All of them are competing for the same talent.

When you are ready to start looking, change your LinkedIn profile to say you're a <whatever> consultant located in NYC. You will start getting contacted by headhunters within a few days.

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gsiener 2 days ago 1 reply      
If you're already in NYC for the summer you'll have no trouble finding a job. Plan on spending your non-internship time building relationships with startups that are getting things done. This is tough because they don't necessarily hang out at the more prominent meetups but you will find them.
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mbubb 2 days ago 0 replies      
My company is looking for Ruby developers as well as backend engineers:

https://careers-collective.icims.com/jobs/intro

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bherms 2 days ago 0 replies      
Check out CrowdTap... Hot startup hiring in NYC.
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Ask HN: Looking for hackers in Argentina
13 points by niico  1 day ago   16 comments top 6
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danielfernandez 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Hola Nicolás, I am from Buenos Aires. Feel free to contact me, my email is in my profile. It is always great to meet new people!
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benologist 1 day ago 3 replies      
Don't want to hijack you but I'd love if anyone in Uruguay contacts me! I'm not there yet but we're opening an office down there hopefully at the end of the month!
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proxwell 22 hours ago 0 replies      
I just got back from spending 3 months in Argentina. I'd recommend the Urban Station coworking spaces as a place to meet hackers. I met some cool tech folks at their Palermo SoHo location, and I think they just opened another location closer to the Microcentro.
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olh 1 day ago 2 replies      
Brazilian here. Anyone else in to create a "HN wannabe" for us southern guys?

Edit: no hijack intended; there are a bunch of hackers in Foz do Iguaçu, if that matters.

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niico 1 day ago 1 reply      
I think im gonna call the Internet Police for über hijacking
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pdebruic 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm not affiliated with them but 10pines.com is in Buenos Aires
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Ask PG: HN stats
3 points by Daniel14  1 day ago   2 comments top
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pg 23 hours ago 1 reply      
The traffic graphs I occasionally publish are the only stats we ourselves have. HN has its own web server that doesn't even capture the sort of information you mention.
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Ask HN: Freelancer? Seeking freelancers? (June 2011)
83 points by whoishiring  6 days ago   discuss
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jamii 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Nomadic - currently in Hong Kong, will be in Albuquerque next week and possibly LA/SF around the end of the month.

I've worked professionally with python, ocaml and erlang. I've worked in search ( http://bit.ly/ji-texsearch-opt , https://github.com/jamii/texsearch ), testing ( http://bit.ly/ji-fuzzer , https://github.com/jamii/ocamlcheck ), distributed systems ( http://bit.ly/ji-mealy ) and am making inroads into p2p ( https://github.com/jamii/dissertation , http://bit.ly/ji-telehash , https://github.com/jamii/erl-telehash ). I have a strong background in math (real analysis, probability, discrete maths) and computer science (randomized algorithms, AI / epistemic logic, machine learning).

I'm willing to work on anything but my main interests are distributed systems and p2p networks. My current project is described here http://bit.ly/ji-mist - if you are working on something similar or interested in collaborating please get in touch.

Resume - http://bit.ly/ji-about

Blog - http://bit.ly/ji-blog

Github - https://github.com/jamii

References - http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=65525388#recommendat...

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dstein 6 days ago 1 reply      
Hmm. Lots of employers in the the on-site jobs thread. Lots of job seekers in the freelance thread. We've long had the technology to work remotely, now we're just waiting for corporations to catch up to the 21st century.
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dangoldin 6 days ago 1 reply      
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GavinB 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER - New York City preferred, would consider remote.

We need an iOS developer with experience building games or picture book apps. We'd love to talk to someone who has also done Android development or used cross platform tools like phonegap or titanium, but that's not required.

Please send a link to an app I can install, a video of an app, or something else that demonstrates how great you are. gbrown@scholastic.com

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Zak 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Remote or on-site in Jacksonville, FL. I will travel at your expense if requested.

Stuff I want to do: Clojure, Ruby (with or without Rails), Haskell, Lisp, Lua. I tend to prefer backend to frontend but I'm up for anything. Machine learning and AI stuff is especially interesting to me, but I'm content making website backends, desktop apps or anything else.

Other stuff I can do: Javascript, PHP, HTML, CSS, Java (a little), C (kinda rusty), Python (a little), basic *nix server administration, languages I've never heard of (I pick them up fast).

zak.wilson@gmail.com

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masterj 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Nomadic - in Boulder, CO for at least the next two months.

Generalist developer looking to build up clientele. I have a strong background in scientific computing / algorithms, but I've been recently working with Node.js and websockets and have been loving it.

Got some number-crunching that's dog-slow and don't know why? I'd love to talk to you. I love a challenge.

C, C++, Python, Numpy + Matplotlib

Currently working with: Node.js, MongoDB, jQuery, underscore.js

Would love an excuse to learn: Clojure, backbone.js, Erlang, OpenCL

Resume: http://bit.ly/jeremy_resume
Email in profile

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aasarava 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER - Berkeley, CA - Remote OK

I'm a Drupal contractor in search of a good Drupal themer who can help me on projects. I have one immediate project and others coming down the pipe over the next few months. I would build the back-end and provide you with the functional site and PSDs so you can build the theme.

I'm looking for someone who:
- Already has experience building themes for several Drupal sites
- Is comfortable using the Zen theme
- Never, never uses !important in stylesheets
- Knows the difference between _padding-right and %padding-right.
- Prefers to reuse CSS classes wherever possible rather than duplicating style declarations
- Knows what l() and t() are and uses them
- Generally available and responsive to emails in the 9a-5pm Pacific timeframe

It's a bonus if you know jQuery and excellent if you know PHP.

If interested please send me an email with a brief note about yourself and some links to work you've done. My email is in my profile. Thanks!

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jlangenauer 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Ruby/Rails development, server configuration/admin, HTML/CSS/Javascript/Photoshop. C++ work also, and I have some, but not much, experience with iOS.

Currently in London, UK.

My GitHub - https://github.com/jasonl
Email: jason [at] jasonlangenauer.com

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jwwest 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK
Remote only - I live in Dallas

Languages/Frameworks I love: Ruby on Rails, PHP/CodeIgniter, Python/Django, CSS3, Prototype, Scriptaculous

Languages I get along with: C#, JavaScript, jQuery

Languages I won't touch with a ten foot pole: C/C++, Perl

What I'm into lately: iPhone/Android mobile development, Readability/Instapaper APIs, RSS

What motivates me: Freedom. Being professional, but working the way that's best for me. Hard problems that can be solved with finesse.

Github Link: http://github.com/jwwest
My 'lil LLC: http://www.treehousemobile.net/
My blargh: http://www.thefuturewithjetpacks.com/

References available upon request, natch.

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baltcode 1 day ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

will code for Bitcoins

I can do Machine Learning, clustering, data mining, data cleaning, scraping, etc. Python and C++.

email: bitcoincoder@yahoo.com

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strooltz 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER

Remote (close to EST) or on site in NJ.

Looking for a p/t freelance rails developer, and a designer/front end UI/UX person to assist me with new product/service features.

Our current stack is: (for all you developers)

Rails 3.0.x

Nginx

Linode VPS w/ S3 & SES

HAML/SASS (and soon coffeescript)

We also use git and capistrano for versioning and deployment

Ideal individuals would be those who have experience in the music industry building services to stream (and scale) content to end users.

Please contact support [at] dblsystems [dot] com with the header "HN DESIGNER", "HN DEVELOPER", "HN UI/UX" or some similar combination so it doesn't get buried.

Be sure to send code/design samples, links to linked in, github, and all the other usuals stuff....

b

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sgdesign 6 days ago 1 reply      
SEEKING FREELANCER

I'm looking for a freelance Rails dev to help me with Talkbee (http://talkb.ee). It's a knowledge marketplace where you can book sessions with experts.

I'm in Paris, France but remote work is no problem. I'm looking for someone who's motivated by the project, but unlike most of the "join my startup so we can become the next Facebook" things I'm definitely willing to pay you for your time.

If interested, email me at hello[at]talkb.ee

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rimantas 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Contact me if you need the highest quality front-end work.
I am an expert in client side technologies HTML/CSS/JavaScript, cross-browser development, front-end optimization and can help with all the buzzwords (CSS3, HTML5, media queries/mobile ready). As a bonus: good grasp on accessibility and usability.

I am equally well-wersed in server-side stuff (PHP, MySQL and RoR) but currently not
interested in this kind of contract just that my domain knowledge there will be helpful and make communication easier.

Preferable tasks: design to code implementation, front-end optimization.

REMOTE only.
I am in Vilnius, Lithuania.

rimantas@gmail.com

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davidw 6 days ago 0 replies      
MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE RIGHT WORK

I live in Italy, and do Rails work, mostly, these days, although I've done Erlang, C, Tcl, Java (mostly related to mobile) and other things in the past.

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peng 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Remote

Web UI designer - HTML5/CSS3/JS - from concept to finished product, no bullshit.

Experienced working with developers, version control, template languages, Sass, Stylus, etc++ across time zones.

Portfolio site -> http://nylira.com

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rdoherty 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Mountain View, CA, remote

Frontend engineer with experience at Yahoo and Mozilla. Expert in frontend performance, layered semantic markup, CSS, HTML5, JavaScript, etc.

Preferable tasks: frontend optimization and scalability consulting. About 10-15 hours/week availability.

http://ryandoherty.net/
ryan@ryandoherty.net

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jcnnghm 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Washington DC, Metropolitan Area or Remote

Lots of Ruby on Rails and Objective-C experience. I like coupling Rails backends with Objective-C frontends. A good example rails site that I've built is http://barsannapolis.com/.

Blog: littlebitofcode.com

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solid 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Remote or New Hampshire/Boston

I'm a web developer with equal experience on the backend with Rails and the frontend with HTML/CSS/jQuery. I have been central in the development, deployment, and maintenance of 3 production websites and 1 production web app. Here is a little background on a couple of my previous projects:

At one company, I inherited the company's existing intranet “project management” Rails web app (http://metro-tek.org). I added major functionality including timesheets for payroll (covered by unit tests), automated email reporting, model and form validation, and PDF rendering. I fixed bugs and set up automated error notifications, backups, and deployment. I also wireframed, programmed and deployed a new corporate website (http://metroelectrical.com) written in Rails. I developed an internal CMS platform to update the website, and integrated CopyCopter for production copy editing.

For my freelance website (http://soliddesigngroup.net), I developed a custom blog platform and CMS for internal use. I developed the information hierarchy and wireframed the website. I translated the website from a PSD layout file into production code, including social media integration, server and client-side form validation, and dynamic front end programming. I created custom jQuery plugins, and set up error notification, automatic backups, and automated deployment.

Here is a sampling of the "best practices" software I roll in my Rails stack:

  * web server - Nginx + Passenger
* version control - Git + Github
* automated deploys - Capistrano
* error notification - Hoptoad
* automated backup - Backup
* cron jobs - Whenever
* HTML/CSS templating - Haml/Sass/Compass
* Production copy editing - Copycopter

To view some examples of my work, check out my open source code at http://github.com/szTheory, or my freelance work at http://soliddesigngroup.net/portfolio. I can provide further code samples upon request.

This is by no means the limit of my abilities or experience, but a small sampling. Please contact me at the email address in my profile for a copy of my resume, and references upon request. I look forward to hearing from you and answering any questions you may have for me!

Best regards,
Jonathan

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Harkins 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Nomadically traveling the world (currently in .ca) - Remote only, availability up to 20h/wk

Currently do web dev front to back on Rails/jQuery/real life js/MySQL/Postgres. Can do PHP, Django, but usually only for porting to Rails. Rebuilt the .pro registry and did most of the Washington Post's 2008 online election coverage.

github: http://github.com/pushcx
blog: http://push.cx
email: ph@ the blog

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jsb 6 days ago 0 replies      
Seeking Work - Remote

Let me handle your screencasting so you can focus on doing what you love: working on your code. I'm an experienced marketer and product manager who wants to help put your product on display and reduce your support volume. Let's reach your target market and better support your users.

Contact me: justin.burdett AT gmail.com

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nerfhammer 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - New York, NY - Remote OK

I will make your SQL queries fast.

I am most proficient in MySQL but can work with any major SQL rdbms (Postgres, Oracle, SQL Server)

info@blogrevolution.com

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BenSS 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Remote or Philadelphia area

Development projects I'll love: Content management systems (CMS), iPhone/iOS Development & web applications

I grok: Objective-C, Perl, Java, PHP, HTML/CSS/JS

Lots of experience in complex projects and mixed technology platforms.

Email with 'HN Freelance' to ben.shive /at/ gmail

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ajpatel 6 days ago 2 replies      
There are so many people out there looking for work, sometimes I think I could just be the middle man and take on 4-5x as many projects and just pass them on to these freelancers and make money that way...
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TamDenholm 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Edinburgh, Scotland, UK - Available anywhere in UK

PHP Developer
Interesting CV: http://bit.ly/kjYYgF
Boring CV: http://bit.ly/kxOVZJ

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mbesto 4 days ago 0 replies      
Looking for a UX designer (contract) for an ASP MVC web application. (having ASP MVC skills is a plus) Preferably based in London. Contact info in profile.
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lynaghk 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Portland, Oregon or remote

Data analysis & visualization: on the web using HTML, SVG, and JavaScript, but I also like the constraints of print / PDF (via LaTeX + Illustrator). I typically use a combination of Ruby + R + SQL. My machine learning experience is in classification problems---typically some dimensionality reduction like SVD or sparse dictionary learning followed by a support vector machine. I'm waiting desperately for social media network graphs to blow over.

Kindle application development: I'm one of the handful of developers in Amazon's private SDK beta making "active content" for everyone's favorite ultra low power black and white mobile device. See http://keminglabs.com

Portfolio: http://www.dirigibleFlightcraft.com
Github: https://github.com/lynaghk/

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euroclydon 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING (limited) WORK - Raleigh, NC - Offsite

Specializing in:

* Interactive, responsive, and easy to use web applications

* Javascript, SVG, jQuery based design tools (WYSIWYG)

* Scalable Content Creation for SEO and targeted traffic generation.

I have a background in Math, Clinical Trials Management Software, BPM/Workflow, and Industrial Process Control/Monitoring

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arraypad 3 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK
London or remote

Expert: PHP (internals, optimisation, best practices, security)

Intermediate: Python, Django, Android, C

Familiar: Most modern programming languages. Coding is a lifestyle, right? ;)

I have experience from single-handed projects to leading enterprise teams.

Notable projects: Technical lead for http://five.tv/ (Drupal); technical lead for http://www.trustedreviews.com/ (Symfony).

Contact: arraypad@gmail.com

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husky 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER

Looking for someone who has experience of Contao (Typolight) CMS and is able to take PSD and make them work with the templating system in Typolight. Please only contact me if you can show me a Contao site you have done.
Remote work is fine
peteloaf [at] me.com

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jneal 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Easley, South Carolina USA (Willing to work remotely or on-site)

Can do front-end xHTML/CSS/jQuery/AJAX (expert in all) and even a little design

Can do back-end OO PHP (expert), MySQL (expert), LAMP stack (intermediate in Linux shell / Apache administration)

My site & Portfolio: http://jneal.com

Recently completed sites:
http://www.instigateclothing.com
http://www.alienantfarm.com
http://www.12stones.com
http://www.egyptcentral.net
http://www.chris-adler.com

I can take an entire project from start to finish, or fit seamlessly into your existing team of designers and developers. Use contact information from my website if interested.

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DonRomeo11 1 day ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER

Looking for iPhone developer in the Chicagoland area to work on finishing a real estate app targeting professional users. MUST have submitted previous apps to the App Store, and preferable to have experience with Android and Blackberry as well.

Please email UniversalCapital1@gmail.com

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venturebros 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Miami,Florida- Available anywhere

I can build custom WordPress themes from scratch, help with minor tweaks etc.

I also have knowledge in Drupal, Joomla! and Magento.

Skills:
HTML/CSS
JavaScript (basic/intermediate)
PHP (basic/intermediate)

here are my samples and you can contact me through the site too http://www.codeitforyou.com/gallery

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rglover 6 days ago 1 reply      
SEEKING WORK
Bowling Green, OH
Web & UI design

Looking to build my clientele so I can work on the cheap (nothing below $1000) if necessary.

I have experience with HTML5, CSS3 jQuery, and Wordpress.

http://www.ryanglover.net for contact information.

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wenbert 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Currently in the Philippines. New Zealand guys, I have a pending Skilled Immigrant Visa for New Zealand (application submitted last April 2011).

PHP, MySQL, jQuery (Javascript), Apache, Zend Framework, Wordpress, Joomla, etc.

PM me if you want more details.

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gduplessy 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - REMOTE

Boca Raton, FL

Mainly Ruby on Rails.

I've done work with HAML/HTML/ERB, CSS, some jQuery, and a multitude of gems to build fully functional websites and web apps.

Available immediately and able to communicate through IM, Skype, Phone and email.

Email is in profile

Github: https://github.com/gduplessy |
Resume: http://gduplessy.com/resume.html |
Blog: http://gduplessy.com/

Thanks!

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LUTOPiA 4 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER

Las Vegas, Nevada USA

Remote work is fine

Need someone that care about my broken FaceBook game and is not just doing the work for the money i pay them.

The work requires a RoR programmer with FaceBook experience.

We can negotiate a pay rate based on your experience and performance.

If you're interested, you can take a look at the patient here: http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=107717989269...

Thank you.

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picardo 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

New York, NY or remote

Ruby/Rails/Javascript engineer with experience developing with HTML5 and CSS3 features for multiple platforms. I am very versatile when it comes to languages, and I can code in Objective-C and ActionScript as well. I've done Flash development for 4 years prior to switching to Rails about 2 years ago. I have experience with Agile development methods, and communicate easily with non-technical people.

Please drop me a line.

My portfolio: http://websava.com

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temp060111 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER - Remote Preferred

Throwaway account here, I haven't posted for freelancers before and don't know what the spam level will be.

Our startup is looking for a remote freelancer(s) to help with various Javascript development tasks. Ideally you'll have experience with raw JS or a cross-framework JS experience as well as high comfort level with HTML, CSS and the DOM.

We have a large volume of small discrete projects and could use some help in working through them.

You can contact me at: nycengineerjobs@gmail.com

Please feel free to pass along a resume, portfolio site, github link, etc along with your current rate.

Thanks!

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mrpollo 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Baja, Mexico - Remote

Generalist Developer seeking a good project to take on, fully proficient on LAMP architecture, and on frontend, vast experience working on marketing agencies, good practice is a given.

Have experience Scripting as well, Bash, Perl, Python, and even PHP on CLI, can help take on any DB Problem as well.

http://ramonroche.com/
https://github.com/mrpollo

Dont Forget to check References on LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ramon-roche/6/548/47

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czcar 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Looking for remote p/t work - I'm currently based in Auckland, NZ. But happy to work US hours.

Looking for work in Ruby/JS or ux/frontend design. Can also do any manner of wordpress/joomla theming etc.,

Also have iOS/Android mobile app development experience using Titanium and Phonegap.

cameron [at] ignite.co.nz

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maheshs 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK
In India,
I've worked on ASP.NET, ASP.NET MVC, SQL Server, C#, JQuery and other web related stuff with MS stack

Availability up to 20 hr/week

Reference - http://in.linkedin.com/in/maheshsingh

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zhivota 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - SE Asia (American currently living abroad) - Remote with possibility of on-site anywhere in the US starting in August.

Run personal Django websites for myself and friends, and am developing a complex sales/registration site in Django for a technical training company.

Experience with scientific programming in Python/C++ - notably in image processing.

Strong knowledge of Java (was a curriculum manager/developer and on-site trainer for Java for 2 years).

http://jasonkotenko.com

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ChaseG 4 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREELANCER - Remote is fine

We are creating a reddit-clone aimed at girls 16-30. We plan to re-skin and make minor adjustments to the code base. We have a fantastic marketing solution to get initial users. We would prefer someone to work part-time for equity.

Contact me at chase.greiner12 AT gmail DOT com

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zray 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK (Designer) - Currently in London, frequently works remotely and can relocate for contract duration at reasonable notice.

Portfolio: http://zoltanray.com

I design interfaces and lead creative teams for websites and mobile apps. I've designed for some of the biggest companies in the world (HSBC, British Airways, Tesco) and numerous startups. Over 100 completed projects in the last 8 years.

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zemanel 4 days ago 0 replies      
An L.A. (US) based startup is looking for a contracting Django developer to push an on-going stealth project into private beta and beyond. Full-time preferred. My e-mail is in my profile. Remoting is OK.
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ohsoremote 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FULL-TIME REMOTE

I've got lots of experience (3.5+ years on the job) and a degree in CS. I'm getting bored of agency work and would prefer to work with a respectable startup or well-known company. I've worked on sites of large companies. I've got lots of open sourced material and a blog I'm willing to share. I'm FULL of ideas with an entrepreneurial spirit. Interested parties must be willing to hear my idea rants every so often and at least appear vaguely amused or interested :)

* LAMP developer

* SQL skills

* Frontend developer skills (a boatload of jQuery)

* Zend/Kohana/Subversion/Git/Cap/Network Admin skills

* Love creating scalable code and solving scalability issues

* Client/agency experience

* Worked with NoSQL solutions in production.

* Love to learn, willing to pick up on technologies

* I'm on the east coast.

I consider myself more senior than junior. I've worked with my fair share of developers and realized I need to work with individuals sharing my passion.

Send details my way. I'll be sure to reply with a more appropriate introduction.

yc.remote@gmail.com

this is a throwaway.

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janeklb 3 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Experienced Web Developer, recently moved from Toronto to Edinburgh.
Seeking PHP/Python/JavaScript/HTML projects (add Ruby to that list shortly). Find my linkedin profile here: http://www.linkedin.com/in/janlasbic

Would prefer to work locally, but if you like what you see and have an interesting project for remote work don't hesitate.

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ryanfitz 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - New York, NY - Remote
I work with rails, mongoDB, and backbone.js. Open source work: github.com/codebrew
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jasonkostempski 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Remote, Moonlight

Server: C#, WCF, OData, Windows Azure

Client: JavaScript (jQuery), HTML, CSS

Mobile: Android

REST enthusiast. Great at UX design. Not so great at graphical design but I can easily make a PhotoShop mock-up work. Based in Buffalo, NY.

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amorphous 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

Madrid, Spain or remote

I'm a Java developer mostly doing web-backend and frontend work. Also very much into Python development including Django

homepage: http://bit.ly/java-dev

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thomasjfrank 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK. YEAH.

You wanna be awesome? You bet you do. I can see it tattooed on your forehead. It says "I wanna be awesome".

Right underneath that, it says, "I want my Wordpress blog to be awesome too. Please?"

Maybe Xzibit can pimp your ride and make you awesome, but guess what homesauce - I can make your Wordpress blog awesome.

I'm a critic, and I'll critique the hell outta that Wordpress blog you've got. Design, SEO, plugins, security, branding, navigation, post titles, and all that grammar. Whatever, player. You want it to shine? I'll do more than spit on it. I'll give you the insight you need make it awesome; awesome enough to pony up the cash for a laser tattoo removal. Maybe awesome enough to call up Xzibit and not have your voice crack when you ask for some new hubcaps. Word.

http://www.thomasjfrank.com

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bobbysix 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - France - Available anywhere

Freelancer for about 2 years, specializes in Flex, Air, PHP Application/site development.
Main programming languages : AS3, MXML, PHP
Secondary programming languages : Javascript - Ajax, HTML, CSS

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127001brewer 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Baltimore, MD - Remote Work

I develop with PHP, jQuery and MySQL/SQLite. And I offer other services, such as copy-writing. LinkedIn profile: http://linkd.in/jExicZ

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joshwais 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING FREEELANCER - NYC - Remote work possible but not preferred

We're building a shopping tool on Ruby/Postgres/jQuery and are looking for freelance developers

Email me at jobs (at) wantworthy (dot) com

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not_chriscohoat 6 days ago 1 reply      
SEEKING WORK - Florida, USA

I've done a number of Django apps and projects and am looking for some great ways to spend my extra time. Also know Rails and C#, but just greatly enjoy Python.

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cstrouse 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Phoenix, Arizona - Remote Work Yes

I like to develop web apps using Rails, Sinatra, and web.py. I'm also into Scala and C# development a bit.

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whomadewho 5 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK

New York City.

I have ten years experience with ASP, ASP.NET, C#, Javascript, SQL etc. Along with SAP/ ABAP. In the last few years I have been using python, django, javascript etc. In general I am an all rounder and my past two roles have been as senior/team lead.

I married an American and (as of two days ago) I have permission to work in the US. I would like to stay away from Microsoft products for the most part but I would consider a mix.

email: shanebest99[@]gmail.com

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timbowhite 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Northern Arizona - remote work only

Jack of all trades web developer/sysadmin/UX designer. For a complete skill set list see:

http://www.zulius.com/#skills

Available for 2 month projects or smaller, 1099 only.

I can be emailed at tim.white (at) zulius.com for rate/quote/questions.

Thanks!

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abidmahmood 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK Remote Lahore, Pakistan
Rails, Php, Javascript(JQuery), Facebook Twitter API's

http://pk.linkedin.com/pub/abid-mahmood/32/b18/b94

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asadjb 6 days ago 0 replies      
SEEKING WORK - Remote

Islamabad, Pakistan.

I mostly do Python, Django and jQuery based projects.

Blog: http://asadjb.com

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Show HN: JSON CMS
30 points by sashthebash  4 days ago   25 comments top 10
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vpdn 4 days ago 2 replies      
I see two potential target groups here. One focuses on the developer and tries to solve the data storage and synchronization procedure. In that field, I'm not sure what the benefits of your solution are. Could you elaborate on how it is different to CouchDB[1] or even Amazon's storage service[2]?

The other market I'm seing targets users of the CMS system, i.e. the people who actually maintain the data. In most data centric projects I've been working on, you could be sure that the client will at some stage ask, how (not whether) he can change the existing data and add datasets after development has finished. This usually involved creating a CRUD user interface, which was tedious and in almost all cases, was never used.

Your front page focuses a lot on the former target group (create general datastructures, update and query them) whereas I think you might be offering more value in the latter group ("see how simple it is to add another recipe into your cooking app"). If you could combine the client's desire to control his money and time investment while making the solution easy to integrate for the developer, that might be good enough.

[1] CouchDB for iOS devices - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2310863

[2] Amazon S3 for iOS: http://aws.amazon.com/sdkforios/faqs/

[3] Earlier discussion on StorageRoom: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1847115

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andymoe 4 days ago 1 reply      
I think this will be useful for a lot of developers of iPhone/Adroid apps. Many don't have the know how (or time) to develop, run and maintain backend systems and it pushes the development cost way way up for clients and complicates our own applications.

We just integrated a purpose built CMS with a bunch of iPhone apps for a client and it was not a lot of fun so I'll give your product a try for sure.

As for feedback - the one thing with the UI is that having three different types of save buttons is a bit confusing at first but I'm not sure if there is a more efficient way to do it. Also, a big win would be if you added an etag along with the JSON with the location of the images to download. I do like very much that collections can be attached to multiple applications.

If your are ever in the Bay Area come by our weekly iPhone Meetup Monday nights in SF. (search iPhone in sf on meetup.com - our logo bleeds six colors...) or shoot me an email (profile)

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evlapix 4 days ago 1 reply      
I'm a little confused about why this is targeted specifically to mobile. I've been looking for a back-end only CMS for years now. Originally, I didn't mind just having my front-end share a database with my CMS, but it would be even better if it used a RESTful API like you've got here.

Maybe I'm missing something? The closest thing I've found to what I'm looking for is: http://www.pureedit.com/ and storageroomapp.com seems very similar (although much better) judging by the Introduction Video.

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JonAtkinson 4 days ago 1 reply      
This is a nice idea.

We build a lot of mobile apps, and we use a combination of the Django admin, and django-tastypie. This gets a JSON API up and running with authentication in very short order, but a product in this space would be very welcome, especially as it allows the data model to be built with a GUI. Our programmers spend a lot of time on model development and being able to delegate that to less technical staff would be a big benefit.

White-label would obviously be a very strong requirement.

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barlo 4 days ago 1 reply      
I love this idea. Fantastic job. I'm going to give it a shot myself for an app I'm prototyping.
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caleboller 4 days ago 1 reply      
I definitely dig on the core concept of making it easier to get content to mobile devices. However, having done this exact type of work for an agency in the past, more often than not content was shared between web and mobile platforms. Do you have a plan to support importing content from popular CMSes or some other way of sharing data between CMSes?
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petervandijck 4 days ago 1 reply      
Seems to be a good idea. You'll have to market this a lot to agencies building mobile apps (I would think). Easy tutorial etc.
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sashthebash 4 days ago 1 reply      
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gcao 4 days ago 2 replies      
I feel it can be very useful. How does it differentiate with MongoDB, CouchDB etc?
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littlemerman 4 days ago 1 reply      
I like the idea, but I want have a lot more than 20GB available. I think it would be more inclined to buy this as traditional software (instead of SaaS).
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Ask HN: Manipulating a client into making the right design decision
5 points by lyudmil  1 day ago   4 comments top 3
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solost 1 day ago 1 reply      
I think you are taking the wrong approach. You don't want to manipulate the people you are working for you. Instead you want to educate them. I think the easiest and most direct route you could take is to prepare mockups using the font they want at the size it would be on a mobile device and the font you suggest.

Then encourage them to get feedback from family and friends. Chances are if your assessment is correct then your client will get the feedback not only from you but from others whom opinions they respect. In the end this is about all you can do.

Having clients means often having to do your best within the parameters that they set for you. They are the ones paying and you are the one working after all.

The other thing that is very concerning in your post is that you think this one issue is so bad that you don't want to be associated with it. The truth is that this is going to happen over and over again in your career and you are going to need to learn to make the best of it.

Nothing says you can't be associated with a project and also discuss, on your resume or web site, how if you were allowed to make the decisions you would have done things differently. I think if you take this approach you can gain credibility with future customers so that it might make it easier for your opinion to count more.

Distancing yourself from too many projects in the long run will make you appear inexperienced and eventually may damage your reputation much more than being associated with a project you are not completely happy with.

Best of luck to you.

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dreamdu5t 20 hours ago 0 replies      
Welcome to the rest of your career.

I use the "divide and conquer" strategy. I look for others who have similar management authority and get them to see a mock of what I'm suggesting. If they won't listen to you, they will often listen to someone else.

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matdwyer 1 day ago 0 replies      
Agree with Solost, go get some user feedback - walk up to a random person, show them the app, and ask them for feedback on the design. If it is as hard and unappealing as you say, the person will say that, and they can hear it from a direct source rather than you.

You might also get some good advice on other aspects of the design while you do it...

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Summer Internships in the Bay Area (June)
4 points by Jarred  2 days ago   2 comments top 2
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solipsist 2 days ago 0 replies      
I think it may be a little too late to be looking for summer internships in June. I'm based here in the Bay Area and have talked to people who recommend getting started with internship searches November/December or early January/February. There are a ton of opportunities here in the valley, though, so people may be able to snatch some last minute internships if they try hard enough.
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kakali 2 days ago 0 replies      
You are too late to be looking for an internship. Most are assigned back in December through February. You need to know somebody at this point.
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Idea: sudo goggles (pam module)
2 points by ballard  2 days ago   1 comment top
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henchan 2 days ago 0 replies      
laptop:~ blah$ sudo
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Show HN: share your June side project
15 points by kodeshpa  5 days ago   discuss
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nhangen 4 days ago 0 replies      
We wanted to build a crowdfunding alternative that could be self-hosted and flexible, so we're building http://ignitiondeck.com. It's a WordPress plugin and if it does well, we'll probably bring it to other platforms.
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latch 5 days ago 0 replies      
I hope to release version 2 of http://mogade.com/ and possibly an android driver for it as well :) almost there, just need to spend a couple weeks with existing users to make sure the data migration goes smoothly and the api remains backwards compatible.
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yesimahuman 5 days ago 1 reply      
I'm working on Widgetfame: http://widgetfame.com

I had posted just a minute before finding this page: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2611775

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raquo 5 days ago 0 replies      
I want to subscribe to HN posts filtered by points, submitters, keywords, openCalais data, etc. I'm building a web app for this, v0.1 due in several days.

As a side effect of scraping HN it would also have a lot of data that I'd want to aggregate/analyze/visualize.

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proexploit 5 days ago 1 reply      
Well, one of them I've just progressed to "useable" status is a Facebook fan page previewer at preview.steadyhelm.com/path/to/your/server/ - Just makes prototyping and cranking out fan pages faster for me as I don't have to set up an application, deal with setAutoResize etc.

Example: http://preview.steadyhelm.com/http://minim.co/facebook-pages...

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klaut 3 days ago 0 replies      
a booking manager, expense tracking for holiday let owners http://www.thebookingbee.com
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maresca 5 days ago 0 replies      
https://openpoll.us - A platform that allows people to vote and comment on legislation. I am just putting some finishing touches on my MVP. Feel free to give it a try. All feedback is appreciated.
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martinshen 3 days ago 0 replies      
We just moved to SF and started work again on http://UpOut.com

We hope to release a version for public use then guides/itineraries and a beta of our mobile app.

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krisneuharth 5 days ago 0 replies      
http://www.climberbum.com - a site to help rock climbers find the best deals on climbing gear.
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kodeshpa 5 days ago 0 replies      
- Extending features in android app 'DeviceDoctor' [Very useful utility for android developers https://market.android.com/details?id=com.devicetest]
- Updating Dawg [application for social networking] https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zubhalabs.dawg.and...
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Rust 5 days ago 0 replies      
Too many: android app (JS + PhoneGap, not so bad); two FB apps; a CRM for small-to-medium music and dance schools; an online "object shortener" (like bit.ly for files - videos, music, images, Word docs, Excel sheets, PDFs, etc.) - upload once, view anywhere.
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YuriNiyazov 5 days ago 0 replies      
www.readlen.com - an efficient way to get through your Instapaper bookmarks.
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freddy 5 days ago 1 reply      
Confered - Easy & free to create beautiful mobile landing pages. http://confered.com
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koren 5 days ago 1 reply      
http://droplo.com/ - drag&drop subversion on the cloud
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kodeshpa 5 days ago 0 replies      
so many interesting project.
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Ask HN: Android GPU
4 points by dillon  4 days ago   2 comments top 2
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drivebyacct2 4 days ago 0 replies      
Honeycomb's UI is GPU accelerated. You can benefit from the GPU in applications, yes.

ICS should bring a high level of hardware acceleration for both UI and applications to both tablets and phones.

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winkv 3 days ago 0 replies      
that depends on how the hardware vendor has implemented the support for it. Opengl es is almost always offloaded to a gpu and java bindings for the same are also available so u can use them in your ui.
As far as general android ui is concerned it is rendered using skia,a graphics library,it can be configured to use gpu via opengl but most hardware vendors don't do it. so in general android ui is not rendered using gpu but it depends on hw implementation.....pardon me for english,its not my native language.
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Ask HN: Best way to learn the CS background I missed by not going to school?
14 points by brandoncordell  10 days ago   11 comments top 8
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mnemonicsloth 10 days ago 0 replies      
Shoot me an email and we can talk about it. I'm working on a related problem right now, so we might be able to help each other out. Address is in my profile.
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choochootrain 10 days ago 1 reply      
Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html

It is one of the classic CS textbooks still used by Berkeley (CS61A) and MIT (not sure) intro CS courses. Its not trivial stuff. While it wont teach you obscure data structures like ropes, it will expose you to a wide variety of topics including but not limited to:
functional programming, lambda calculus, OOP, logic programming, client/server programming, non deterministic programming, streams as data, the meta-circular evaluator, lazy evaluation, and concurrency. I had a fairly strong CS background before taking CS61A at Berkeley, but this book (thanks to Scheme) taught me how beautiful computer science can be. Now working in Java is a complete turn off ;)

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drivebyacct2 10 days ago 1 reply      
If you have experience as a PHP programmer and only as a PHP programmer, AND you feel like you are a copy-paste PHP programmer... you need to program more. Plain and simple. Take on different projects. Use new different tools, just for the sake of having to learn something new or use a new framework or a new data structure or architecture, etc.
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bo_Olean 10 days ago 1 reply      
From next time write the code yourself and minimize the copy/pasting habit as much as you can. Using a good IDE helps control the copy/pasting habit to some extent.

Start here, follow the topics you have not tried yet:
http://www.tuxradar.com/practicalphp

What's the best way to learn all the stuff I missed by not going to school?

how can I get a job that is asking for engineers to apply?

You need skills that those engineers have.

You don't need to go to school to master the data structures and algorithms, for reference there are bunch of university resources available, and there are lot of implemented code for us to checkout. Refer links others have suggested here. Give some time to learn these advance topics.

Edit: added few lines

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thornkin 10 days ago 0 replies      
When I did this I looked at the books necessary for a CS degree from the University of Washington (but it could have been anywhere) and I read them. Nowadays it is easier. A lots of CS classes are online now. Berkeley and Stanford both have full classes in podcast format. MIT has OpenCourseWare which contains the notes and homeworks.

The short of it though is to study the same stuff. There is a lot that a CS background will fill in for you which you won't tend to learn on the job.

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mbrzuzy 10 days ago 0 replies      
Why not trying googleing around for information on the topics. You don't necessarily need school to learn.
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Ask HN: Did my poor choice in higher education hurt my career permanently?
26 points by lysol  9 days ago   discuss
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SwellJoe 9 days ago 3 replies      
Maybe not permanently, but yes, it definitely hurt your career. I'm not sure why everyone wants to deny that what college is on your resume matters. It really does matter. Google hires from "top-tier schools" (you can get in via other paths, but that's the easy one, and the only way you can get to work at Google straight out of college). Likewise facebook and all the other hot places to work in technology.

I was unaware of this fact when I made my school decisions, and my parents were mostly unaware of this fact as well (having been the first in both their families to attend college of any sort; to them the distinction was "went to college" and recognized little difference between "went to a good college" and "went to a bad college"), so I somewhat aimlessly attended a community college for four years. It took me about 5 years from finishing school to get to the point where I could work in high-paying jobs alongside people who had degrees from MIT, Caltech, Duke, etc. And the most important element in that process was probably writing a technical book and getting it published by a well-known publisher. I wouldn't have needed that book and other experience and getting such a job could have happened immediately after college had I attended a good school.

I've rarely let this bother me, as I've always known I wanted to work for myself, and I don't need to see a diploma to know what I can do. But, I can say that there have been a few occasions in my life where I desperately needed to be able to get a job in order to pay my bills (running your own business when you don't know how can lead to running up a lot of debt), and the jobs I could get were simply awful. Without a good degree, and without a solid trail of work-experience, you don't get the callback on high-paying jobs. There are always candidates with a good education who will edge you out in the selection process.

I believe you're going to need to take the initiative and fix your situation yourself. It won't happen by accident, and it won't happen by staying in one low-level position until your superiors deem you worthy of promotion.

I wrote a book, got involved in numerous Open Source projects, spoke at conferences, and did really good work whenever I found myself in a contract position at a really good company (on a few occasions that led to full-time employment offers, including an office with more Ph.Ds per square meter than any other place I've stepped foot). I feel pretty confident that at this point in my life, I could get a job working at almost any tech company in the world, because I have so much to show for my time since college. But, I've been out of college for 12 years...that's a long time to wait to start getting good jobs and making a good salary.

You don't have to go back to school to "fix" the problem, but you do need to do something dramatic. Start a successful company. Write a book for publication (preferably a good one). Start an Open Source project and make it really successful. Just going to work every day will not cause the world to begin to agree with you on your value in the workplace. If you believe you're being undervalued and underutilized, you're going to have to do something about it.

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nostrademons 9 days ago 0 replies      
There are very few career mistakes that hurt you permanently, if you make an effort to recover from them. Usually, the way it works is that a low-quality degree shunts you into a low-quality initial job, which then makes you lower your expectation about what you can achieve, which prevents you from going for better opportunities as they arise. This cycle is very much breakable, it just requires that you do something unexpected.

Basically, if your degree sucks, it will force the hiring manager to look much more closely at your other accomplishments. If you have none, you're screwed. If you have a track record of shipping products that other people want to use, nobody is going to care about your degree.

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jdietrich 9 days ago 0 replies      
If you're not regularly getting unsolicited offers of employment, you're not spending enough time on career development. Start a blog, contribute to open source projects and hustle like a motherfucker.

If you want to work on exciting things, work on exciting things. Demonstrate that you're halfway good at it and people will offer you money to do it for them. It really is as simple as that.

To me, the idea of a software developer seeking employment based on their degree is as ridiculous as a rock singer trying to book a gig on the basis of his BA. We work in a field where theoretical understanding is no guarantee of practical ability, but proving practical ability is straightforward. Developers who rely on credentials can't code and employers who rely on credentials can't hire. You want to keep the hell away from all of them.

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gregpilling 9 days ago 0 replies      
Your degree and what school you went to don't matter. What matters at this point is what you have accomplished. So what have you? If you have no publicly available proof of your work (open source, or web app, business ...) then get started. It is never too late. At the age you would be by now, people will judge you on your accomplishments.

I am 41 and have a couple of small companies (30 employees total). For my education, I barely graduated from public high school. I had my sister write a special make up paper so I could pass French. Without that I would not have made it. I am married now to a professor. I go to many parties with academics, and they are mostly impressed with the fact that I am self employed. I am impressed with all the degrees and publications they have. Nobody asks me where I went to school because that is not relevant to figure out if I am successful or worth talking to.

So to summarize - your place of education has an order of magnitude less importance than what you have accomplished. And the gap will get wider as you get older. So do something that people can see, and prove to the world that you are capable.

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crikli 9 days ago 1 reply      
I think that depends on what you want your career to be.

If you're looking to work for startup and/or small firms, it's probably not going to matter. You've got a gig right now, they're going to care about what you did and learned at that gig. I know that my company doesn't care about what your degree is in or where it's from. Hell, all that has become is a measure of how much debt you and your parents were willing to accomodate.

If you're looking to work for a big firm, I dunno, Google or something, it's probably going be something they'll use to vet resumes.

This is not new advice, but now that you have your degree focus on creating stuff. Do something in the open source community. Blog the things you learn here and there. Your experiences and your portfolio of work is far more important to a smart hiring authority than some damn diploma.

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jerrya 9 days ago 0 replies      
Consider getting a master's degree from a recognized institution.

Also consider joining some large company that will pay for that master's degree.

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brudgers 9 days ago 0 replies      
If you have been out of school six years, where you went to school should at best only be a minor consideration regarding your qualifications - proven track record will nearly always trump academic credentials in the business world.

In addition attending a mediocre local school due to limited options is different from traveling across country to do so as an explicit choice.

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pkananen 9 days ago 1 reply      
Well, my company, an enterprise agile dev consulting firm, could really care less if you had a degree.

My guess is that most places you REALLY want to work won't care where your degree is from. Work on cool stuff, share what you do on github, and look for ways to learn and grow. It will be evident.

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coryl 9 days ago 0 replies      
Where you were educated matters much less when you have an awesome list of projects/experience to refer to.
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schintan 9 days ago 1 reply      
I agree with what everyone says here, but I think that reflects the OP's concern that he will have to prove himself by going the extra step, developing a worthwhile portfolio of work before being accepted as a person who knows his stuff. On the other hand ,a person with a degree from a known institute would be assumed by "most" people to have those skills , even without having anything to show for them.
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HeyLaughingBoy 9 days ago 0 replies      
Define "hurt my career." Working for Google or Facebook? Maybe fresh out of school it would be a problem, but six years after? I find that hard to believe.

In any case, there is more to the employment world than Google, Facebook, or Apple. Want to work for a Fortune 500 business? Well there's 500 employers right there, most of whom aren't too concerned with where you went to school 6 years ago, but care more about what you did since.

I've been interviewing people for a few years and the only time the university is noticed is if it's Harvard or MIT or something well known. And even then it counts for absolutely NOTHING.

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MenaMena123 9 days ago 0 replies      
You seem a bit like myself, a few years back. You are worried about "School Names" or how it looks to others.

Don't even worry about what school you attended, worry about the things you know. Did you learn anything?

Worry about what your skills are, good companies could careless if you went to no school and know the skills instead.

Worry about what projects you have done and what you learned from each one, even if the project was by yourself.

My point is people are so hung up on schools and degrees, they forget the skills and experience out-way any degree.

So worry about skills and experience even if its on your own experiments. The passed is the passed, hopefully you learned something at the school at the least.

You just don't learn in schools.

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naner 9 days ago 2 replies      
Harvard has a merit-based remote Master's program for Software Engineering[1] if you're interested in continuing education.

A strong professional network will help overcome most deficiencies. Companies are concerned with reputability and a school name or a degree are just a part of that. In that same vein, there are other areas of your professional reputation you can bolster as well.

1: http://blog.markwshead.com/911/harvard-online-masters-degree...

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julsonl 9 days ago 0 replies      
By my own experience, if you have the appropriate skills and knowledge, most companies could care less on where you graduated. Some larger companies' HR departments can be university snobs, but I never encountered that on all the startups that I've applied to.

Just keep studying, do great work, and grow your portfolio; and I'm sure you'll do fine.

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lysol 9 days ago 0 replies      
Thanks everyone, the personal anecdotes are the fuel I need to keep me motivated. It's tough when you see lots of big news about developers at startups doing amazing things and you just think 'well, I didn't do x,y,z perfectly, so I'm not eligible for this kind of project'. I work for a fairly small company that's existed for over 10 years but is still in startup mode, probably for the wrong reasons. But it's convinced me that startups and other small outfits are definitely where I want to be. Thanks everyone!
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gorbachev 9 days ago 0 replies      
Nobody that matters will look at your schooling after a few years of experience. Those that do you should avoid, as they care more about superficial credentials than what you can actually do.
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resnamen 7 days ago 0 replies      
You can compensate for a less-sexy degree by demonstrating excellent career growth. The time to act on this is now. Six years out of college, and four years in the same job - you're on the threshold of appearing stale.

Take some time to set long-term goals for yourself, determine what steps you would need to take to get there, and then execute on the steps that are feasible for you at the moment.

I have found that the career growth paths at many companies are quite immature - there are more options available when you consider changing employers versus busywaiting on the scarce promotional opportunities available in your career track at a single company. Doubly so if you are trying to overcome prejudices about your skill set, like if you are trying to make the leap from software testing to development, etc.

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andrewtbham 9 days ago 0 replies      
You don't have to put it on your resume.
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Ask HN: Which translation API?
12 points by kingofspain  11 days ago   1 comment top
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bobf 10 days ago 0 replies      
I used to work at WorldLingo (http://www.worldlingo.com), who offers a translation API service. They're one of the few machine translation API services that are publicly available at reasonable costs. I'm happy to answer questions about the translation industry as a whole, shoot me an email if you're interested.
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Show HN: Review my Startup, BetaUsersNow.com - Targeted Users & Feedback
4 points by pghimire  6 days ago   3 comments top 2
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imjonathanlee 5 days ago 1 reply      
I'd say that it's a definitely interesting concept- There could be a potential market for it since most people need a way to see what users think of the site. Depending on who those users are, they could even like it enough to market to their friends for you.

Perhaps I'm slightly biased towards design, but the first few seconds I saw the site- I felt it was like one of those promotional scam no risk money back guarantee how to make money etc etc schemes online. It might be because it's too template-like, but it doesn't reach out to me at all.

Also, I understand that there is a money back guarantee- but how do I know that 50 reviews at $450 isn't just outsourced by a copywriter in India? How do I know that I will get paid for each website and app job completed? Is there a quality standard that users must abide by to write a review?
I understand that there's no real way to prove any of this, but what really helps me would be seeing testimonials, (I know, even these can be fake) or even better- give reputable companies a free trial and have them write a testimonial.

It's really a cool idea, but the above would be questions I'd ask myself the first time to your site.

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